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oldfarmer50 · February 2022

carnaught said:
What is it not using turn signals - it’s just too hard? No, we’re all supposed to be mind readers.

Hey, they know where they’re going …and that’s all that matters.

stickguy · February 2022

qbrozen said:
My son's 16th bday today. Born on 2/22 at 1:22pm.

Congrats. Now time for the driving school class so he can get a permit! That was fun times…

jmonroe1 · February 2022

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1440743098795974658

I was thinking....all they had to do was point the arrows out instead of in.......I don't know if this was supposed to be part of a Union Jack but the arrows would be excellent....if they pointed out instead of in.
And then all the British people would be screaming that you put them backwards.

Still one of the dumbest designs I’ve ever seen. Kinda surprised with all the safety nanny types in this world that dictate auto safety that this design wasn’t squelched before production.

As one of our poster buddies said awhile back about auto design in general…”car manufacturer design departments should have mandatory drug testing”.

jmonroe

qbrozen · February 2022

stickguy said:

Congrats. Now time for the driving school class so he can get a permit! That was fun times…

Was just learning about that yesterday from a friend. Mandatory class I gotta pay for? What a racket. My high school provided it for free, and it wasn't anywhere near the 60 hours they say now that you need.

ab348 · February 2022

I was behind an Audi S3 this AM at an intersection. Its LED taillights/signal lights are an arrowhead shape when illuminated but point towards the center of the car. They do have a sequential 3-segment LED "line" on the bottom of the arrowhead that is animated and moves in the direction of the intended turn, but still...

ab348 · February 2022

I see Vanilla has changed our old beloved Emotorcons to more generic ones. I already miss the one with the splayed-out wheels.

sda · February 2022

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:

Congrats. Now time for the driving school class so he can get a permit! That was fun times…
Was just learning about that yesterday from a friend. Mandatory class I gotta pay for? What a racket. My high school provided it for free, and it wasn't anywhere near the 60 hours they say now that you need.

I had to do the same when our daughter was 16. Thankfully she had a good, patient instructor who was able to observe and identify which driving skills and knowledge of hers that needed reinforcing.

stickguy · February 2022

Drivers Ed in HS now is just classroom. The on road part you need to get from a drivers school. I think it was 4 hours behind the wheel ? Around that. Then you could take the kid to DMV to get their permit so you can take them out.

Given how poorly most adults drive might be a smart idea! And at least if they are going to hit something right away it’s not in your car.

stickguy · February 2022

I checked. It’s 6 hours behind the wheel in a dual control car.

Also only required to get the permit at 16. If you wait (I think just to 17) you can go straight to getting a permit. My kids both did the age 16 option.

tjc78 · February 2022

@ab348 said:
I see Vanilla has changed our old beloved Emotorcons to more generic ones. I already miss the one with the splayed-out wheels.

On your phone you can use any icon available on your device.

👓👏👏👹👹👿👿🤢🤢🥴🥴🤐😷🥸🥸🥸🥸

kyfdx · February 2022

tjc78 said:

@ab348 said:

I see Vanilla has changed our old beloved Emotorcons to more generic ones. I already miss the one with the splayed-out wheels.

On your phone you can use any icon available on your device.

👓👏👏👹👹👿👿🤢🤢🥴🥴🤐😷🥸🥸🥸🥸

You could always use any icon from your phone. Of course, if it was an iPhone, it might not show up on Chrome, etc..

sda · February 2022

stickguy said:
I checked. It’s 6 hours behind the wheel in a dual control car.

Also only required to get the permit at 16. If you wait (I think just to 17) you can go straight to getting a permit. My kids both did the age 16 option.

I got my full driver's license when I was 15 in New Orleans. About 6 weeks after we moved to Europe for two years. No more driving. Cruel and unusual punishment.

roadburner · February 2022

@qbrozen said:
My son's 16th bday today. Born on 2/22 at 1:22pm.

I sent my son to the two day teen school at the BMW Performance Center and followed that up with the Street Survival course which allowed him to learn how his 1975 ‘02 handled at the limit. Thinking back, the fact that I put my son in a 35 year old car really stirred up some of the hand-wringing bed wetters on a few forums.

ab348 · February 2022

tjc78 said:

@ab348 said:

I see Vanilla has changed our old beloved Emotorcons to more generic ones. I already miss the one with the splayed-out wheels.

On your phone you can use any icon available on your device.

Of course. But I preferred the old Emotorcons because they were ours.

imidazol97 · February 2022

kyfdx said:

tjc78 said:

@ab348 said:

I see Vanilla has changed our old beloved Emotorcons to more generic ones. I already miss the one with the splayed-out wheels.

On your phone you can use any icon available on your device.

👓👏👏👹👹👿👿🤢🤢🥴🥴🤐😷🥸🥸🥸🥸

You could always use any icon from your phone. Of course, if it was an iPhone, it might not show up on Chrome, etc..

I see thirteen icons followed by 4 rectangles that are empty. I assume those
rectangles are icons on the phone that my Windows Brave can't identify?
Do other users see something in these 4 🥸🥸🥸🥸?

kyfdx · February 2022

imidazol97 said:

kyfdx said:

tjc78 said:

@ab348 said:

I see Vanilla has changed our old beloved Emotorcons to more generic ones. I already miss the one with the splayed-out wheels.

On your phone you can use any icon available on your device.

👓👏👏👹👹👿👿🤢🤢🥴🥴🤐😷🥸🥸🥸🥸

You could always use any icon from your phone. Of course, if it was an iPhone, it might not show up on Chrome, etc..

I see thirteen icons followed by 4 rectangles that are empty. I assume those
rectangles are icons on the phone that my Windows Brave can't identify?
Do other users see something in these 4 🥸🥸🥸🥸?

I’m on Safari, so can see them.

qbrozen · February 2022

roadburner said:

I sent my son to the two day teen school at the BMW Performance Center and followed that up with the Street Survival course which allowed him to learn how his 1975 ‘02 handled at the limit. Thinking back, the fact that I put my son in a 35 year old car really stirred up some of the hand-wringing bed setters on a few forums.

Things I've always said I'd have my kids do, too.

Just like everything else, society has decided it must step in to make it safer. It is amazing how any of us "old-timers" survived long enough to even have offspring.

sda · February 2022

Amen!

carnaught · February 2022

As for icons I find that I am using the “poop” icon quite a lot.

explorerx4 · February 2022

@carnaught,
You can fix that with the Pepto Bismol icon.

roadburner · February 2022

I took my uncle to his second cataract surgery today. It was raining a bit hard, so of course the interstate was dotted with dimwits creeping along at 20-30 mph below the speed limit with their emergency flashers blazing.
On top of that, I had to send my assistant to a law enforcement meeting on the case that is getting all sorts of coverage. The whole staff needs to be up to speed on this one.

oldfarmer50 · February 2022

stickguy said:
Drivers Ed in HS now is just classroom. The on road part you need to get from a drivers school. I think it was 4 hours behind the wheel ? Around that. Then you could take the kid to DMV to get their permit so you can take them out.

Given how poorly most adults drive might be a smart idea! And at least if they are going to hit something right away it’s not in your car.

IIRC my kids did driver’s Ed at the school which hired a driving school to do the actual driving. Cost $300 which was big money 20 years ago. I had already done weeks of hands on driving with them beforehand so they walked in the door trained like school bus drivers.

carnaught · February 2022

@explorerx4 said:
@carnaught,
You can fix that with the Pepto Bismol icon.

I don’t have the problem - it’s others that do.

ab348 · February 2022

Saw a near-newsworthy incident today. I had pulled into a parking spot in front of the pharmacy I use. They have a row of nose-in parking, a 4'-5' wide sidewalk, then a glass front wall/entry. A Hyundai Santa Fe that had actually cut me off somewhat to get in front of me entering the lot parked in one of the nose-in spots, and I parked in the spot to their immediate left.

I was gathering my things and about to exit the ATS as I noticed the driver's door of the Hyundai open and a woman start to get out. The SUV suddenly shot forward, hit the curb and tried to vault over it as the woman, who was half in and half out, clung to the door. She had obviously left it running and in gear and was distracted by something or someone, perhaps her gal pal in the passenger seat. It got near the top of the curb and then rolled back. I could imagine that it that curb was just a bit lower the glass wall would have taken a hit and likely shattered.

driver100 · February 2022

qbrozen said:
My son's 16th bday today. Born on 2/22 at 1:22pm.

Too bad he wasn't born at 2:22.
Sometimes our pickleball score this morning was 2 - 2 - 2.

driver100 · February 2022

ab348 said:
She had obviously left it running and in gear and was distracted by something or someone, perhaps her gal pal in the passenger seat. It got near the top of the curb and then rolled back. I could imagine that it that curb was just a bit lower the glass wall would have taken a hit and likely shattered.

Those happen in Florida every day, but the car almost always goes right into the store.
This lady drove into a pizza shop. she gets back into the car after as if nothing happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5wSdxf3C74

driver100 · February 2022

I was reading a magazine article online and I saw an ad that showed pouring WD40 into a gas tank. Under the ad it said "This is a way to get up to 55% better gas mileage (ad).
I was curious but I don't want pop-ups so I didn't go on the ad.
I know it's a scam, but what are they going to claim is the secret....I am curious.

henryn · February 2022

driver100 said:
I was reading a magazine article online and I saw an ad that showed pouring WD40 into a gas tank. Under the ad it said "This is a way to get up to 55% better gas mileage (ad).
I was curious but I don't want pop-ups so I didn't go on the ad.
I know it's a scam, but what are they going to claim is the secret....I am curious.

You can read about that ad here: https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/06/02/wd40-gas-tank/

And that page is safe.

Readers may have seen an advertisement in recent years that showed a can of WD-40 spray being pointed at a car’s gas tank.

WD-40’s official product description says that the spray can “protect metal from rust and corrosion.” The company sells a line of “lubricants, penetrating oils, cleaners, and rust removal products.”

The ad in question read: “The One And Only WD40 Trick Everyone Should Know (Restwow).”

We clicked the ad. It led to a 70-page slideshow article that was filled with more ads. In fact, the pages were so full of ads that our laptop fans began spinning at max speed.

None of the 70 pages mentioned anything about spraying WD-40 at a vehicle’s gas, diesel, or petrol tank.

driver100 · February 2022

@henryn Thanks for the info...I didn't think to check snopes or something.
I went on a similar ad to try and copy it and my laptop started flashing like crazy, I thought it had been cooked.
I turned it off and it is fine....but it probably started flashing through all those ads....what a scam!
Some of those side ads look really interesting......but I will try to avoid them no matter how curious I am.

snakeweasel · February 2022

imidazol97 said:

kyfdx said:

tjc78 said:

@ab348 said:

I see Vanilla has changed our old beloved Emotorcons to more generic ones. I already miss the one with the splayed-out wheels.

On your phone you can use any icon available on your device.

👓👏👏👹👹👿👿🤢🤢🥴🥴🤐😷🥸🥸🥸🥸

You could always use any icon from your phone. Of course, if it was an iPhone, it might not show up on Chrome, etc..

I see thirteen icons followed by 4 rectangles that are empty. I assume those
rectangles are icons on the phone that my Windows Brave can't identify?
Do other users see something in these 4 🥸🥸🥸🥸?

I see the four rectangles you see on my computer but on my Samsung phone I see 4 Grouchos.

jmonroe1 · February 2022

ab348 said:
I see Vanilla has changed our old beloved Emotorcons to more generic ones. I already miss the one with the splayed-out wheels.

I noticed that yesterday and I don’t like them. Why don’t you lodge a formal complaint with Edmunds Customer Service. I’ll sign the complaint if you think it will do any good.

jmonroe

snakeweasel · February 2022

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:
Drivers Ed in HS now is just classroom. The on road part you need to get from a drivers school. I think it was 4 hours behind the wheel ? Around that. Then you could take the kid to DMV to get their permit so you can take them out.

Given how poorly most adults drive might be a smart idea! And at least if they are going to hit something right away it’s not in your car.

IIRC my kids did driver’s Ed at the school which hired a driving school to do the actual driving. Cost $300 which was big money 20 years ago. I had already done weeks of hands on driving with them beforehand so they walked in the door trained like school bus drivers.

20 years ago? twenty years ago I already had 20 years of driving experience and then some. Anyways when I took drivers ed our school had their own vehicles and one of them had hand controls for disabled students. Well guess which car I got to drive and I went through drivers ed the same time a disabled student was going through it. We were told we couldn't change the drivers seat so all 6 foot 2 of me was crammed into a drivers seat that was almost all the way forward. So trust me when I say I know what a sardine feels like.

jmonroe1 · February 2022

explorerx4 said:
@carnaught,
You can fix that with the Pepto Bismol icon.

No, that just changes the color to sissy pink. Some old stuff though.

jmonroe

cdnpinhead · February 2022

Quick as a wink your head's in the sink.

snakeweasel · February 2022

driver100 said:
I was reading a magazine article online and I saw an ad that showed pouring WD40 into a gas tank. Under the ad it said "This is a way to get up to 55% better gas mileage (ad).
I was curious but I don't want pop-ups so I didn't go on the ad.
I know it's a scam, but what are they going to claim is the secret....I am curious.

There is a motorcycle dealer that has a youtube channel that does strange things with motorcycles and one of them was running a motorcycle strictly on WD40. It seemed to work in the short run, but I wouldn't recommend it.

jmonroe1 · February 2022

driver100 said:

ab348 said:
She had obviously left it running and in gear and was distracted by something or someone, perhaps her gal pal in the passenger seat. It got near the top of the curb and then rolled back. I could imagine that it that curb was just a bit lower the glass wall would have taken a hit and likely shattered.
Those happen in Florida every day, but the car almost always goes right into the store.
This lady drove into a pizza shop. she gets back into the car after as if nothing happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5wSdxf3C74

That’s what experience teaches you.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · February 2022

driver100 said:
I was reading a magazine article online and I saw an ad that showed pouring WD40 into a gas tank. Under the ad it said "This is a way to get up to 55% better gas mileage (ad).
I was curious but I don't want pop-ups so I didn't go on the ad.
I know it's a scam, but what are they going to claim is the secret....I am curious.

That an idiot wants more info.

jmonroe

mjfloyd1 · February 2022

After the latest Juwan Howard basketball incident:

Best quote I saw was that if he was going to punch someone for taking a time out, it should have been Chris Webber🤣🤣🏀

oldfarmer50 · February 2022

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:
Drivers Ed in HS now is just classroom. The on road part you need to get from a drivers school. I think it was 4 hours behind the wheel ? Around that. Then you could take the kid to DMV to get their permit so you can take them out.

Given how poorly most adults drive might be a smart idea! And at least if they are going to hit something right away it’s not in your car.

IIRC my kids did driver’s Ed at the school which hired a driving school to do the actual driving. Cost $300 which was big money 20 years ago. I had already done weeks of hands on driving with them beforehand so they walked in the door trained like school bus drivers.
20 years ago? twenty years ago I already had 20 years of driving experience and then some. Anyways when I took drivers ed our school had their own vehicles and one of them had hand controls for disabled students. Well guess which car I got to drive and I went through drivers ed the same time a disabled student was going through it. We were told we couldn't change the drivers seat so all 6 foot 2 of me was crammed into a drivers seat that was almost all the way forward. So trust me when I say I know what a sardine feels like.

You seem shocked that my kids took driver’s Ed 20 years ago. My oldest is 37 so he was 17. I’ve been driving for 54.

Was that hand control set up with the handle on the brake pedal? We have them at work. You kind of have to think ahead when you brake.

andres3 · February 2022

Every up and coming new driver should take a high performance driving class so they aren't shocked when they turn a 5,000 pound SUV a sudden 2/3rd's steering wheel turn at 80 MPH on wet pavement that it doesn't do what they intended.

sda · February 2022

Defensive, undistracted driving would be a huge uptick! With so many drivers behind the wheel doing everything but paying attention, it really concerns me. Smart phones are a curse. Red light runners are the rule and not the exception.

jmonroe1 · February 2022

sda said:
Defensive, undistracted driving would be a huge uptick! With so many drivers behind the wheel doing everything but paying attention, it really concerns me. Smart phones are a curse. Red light runners are the rule and not the exception.

The safety nannies that have given us all these safety do-dads think they have made the roads safer when in fact they made it worse because too many drivers think their cars will save them.

I think the only way we can make the roads safer again is to go back to the horse and buggy and start over again. Then in 100 years they can rinse and repeat again. They’ll never get it right but you gotta keep trying.

jmonroe

british_rover · February 2022

Tomorrow will be the end of my first week in the field totaling cars. I spent a ton of time in junk yards 20-25 years ago but never one this big or active.

Most of mine were small and generally in rural areas. They were pick up part places not set up like this at all.

Literally as far as the eye can see totaled cars. I would guess 3,000-4,000 at any given time.

qbrozen · February 2022

british_rover said:
Tomorrow will be the end of my first week in the field totaling cars.

So what method have you found most effective? Snowy offramp? Brick wall? Wrong gear in a parking garage? Police chase?

stickguy · February 2022

I find the YouTube guts that do Copart tours to be quite interesting. And yeah those places are huge, with some real interesting stuff.

british_rover · February 2022

Police chase is messy better to use one of these.

british_rover · February 2022

sda · February 2022

Looks like a sad Jetta or Passat top left. The profile of the two is similar. I have to wonder how frequently more damage is incurred by lifting the cars with that huge forklift.

andres3 · February 2022

qbrozen said:

british_rover said:
Tomorrow will be the end of my first week in the field totaling cars.
So what method have you found most effective? Snowy offramp? Brick wall? Wrong gear in a parking garage? Police chase?

Drive right into a lake I would think; but just make sure they are not filming your Bugatti doing it.

oldfarmer50 · February 2022

british_rover said:
Tomorrow will be the end of my first week in the field totaling cars. I spent a ton of time in junk yards 20-25 years ago but never one this big or active.

Most of mine were small and generally in rural areas. They were pick up part places not set up like this at all.

Literally as far as the eye can see totaled cars. I would guess 3,000-4,000 at any given time.

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