Edmunds Members - Cars and Conversations (Archived)

henryn · April 2022

Michaell said:

abacomike said:

@imidazol97 said:

I have a question about Costco gas purchases. I'm thinking about buying a year membership and giving the kids one of the two cards to use. Are they able to just scan the membership card and then pay with their own credit cards which have different names on them from my name?

They live close to the Costco and could benefit from the lower prices.

Yes! My daughter has one of my cards and uses her own credit cards to pay at the pump.

You can also put one of the Costco membership cards in your daughter or son’s name so long as the last name is the same as yours.

My sister filled up her husband's Q50 at Costco in San Diego a couple of weeks ago.

$94!

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I remember the first time I tripped on the $75 limit at the pump, that would have been back around 2008 or thereabouts. I was standing there looking at the pump wondering what went wrong that caused the pump to turn off.

On a lighter note, driving home last night I passed an off brand station (Fuel Depot) that had $3.33 (cash) on their sign. There were cars lined up, not too many, maybe one or two at each aisle. A few blocks further down I passed an Exxon with $3.35 (cash), no line there.

Seems to be an anomaly though. I was out and about this afternoon, and all of the stations I saw were at $3.59 (cash).

tjc78 · April 2022

Congrats GG, nice ride!

qbrozen · April 2022

snakeweasel said:

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

I took the Honda to the dealership last weekend to get a new chain and sprockets put on. I bet you guys never expected that to be posted here.
I dunno. Don't all Hondas have those parts?
No, while some have chain drives, some have belt drives and some have shaft drives.

snakeweasel · April 2022

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

qbrozen said:

snakeweasel said:

I took the Honda to the dealership last weekend to get a new chain and sprockets put on. I bet you guys never expected that to be posted here.
I dunno. Don't all Hondas have those parts?
No, while some have chain drives, some have belt drives and some have shaft drives.

Nope, it was just beneath me.

cdnpinhead · April 2022

henryn said:
. . . I passed an off brand station (Fuel Depot) that had $3.33 (cash) on their sign. There were cars lined up, not too many, maybe one or two at each aisle. A few blocks further down I passed an Exxon with $3.35 (cash), no line there.

And people continue to move from CA to TX.

Go figure.

benjaminh · April 2022

graphicguy said:
....The Touring model has a different suspension than the TLX. It uses a version of the Adaptive suspension that the TLX S-Type uses. It makes a significant difference in both handling and ride over the EX-L.

It's also faster than the EX-L (still slower than the TLX. though...but not by much).

I could go on and on. It's quite a drive compared to anything else I had driven before. It's smoother, it's quieter, it has better tech, it's quick, it steers well.....it's what Honda does.

I told them if they could beat Carmax's bid for my car, I'd trade for their car at MSRP. Long and short of it, they beat Carmax by about $700.

Done deal.

They wrote me a check for the delta of what the Accord cost and what they were giving me for the TLX....

Amazing deal. You not only got to drive your 2021 TLX for free, but it seems like this deal paid you a significant amount for driving your TLX for the last 18 months or so. Didn't you pay something like $3k below list for the TLX? Depending on how much you drive you'll probably save around $1500 a year on gas with the Accord hybrid. The adaptive suspension in the Accord Touring a very nice feature not found on your TLX, and it also has other features that weren't on your TLX like ventilated front seats, heated rear seats, head-up display, wireless Carplay/AA, etc. As you say, the touch screen in the Accord is probably easier to use that the touch pad control in the TLX.

I'm sorry to lose a fellow Acura owner, but it sounds like a great car. There are a few things that are nicer from my pov on the Acura, including the ELS sound system, better handling, quieter ride, and nicer interior (seats, door handles, etc.), but overall the Accord Touring is a very impressive luxury car that should hold its value very well.

benjaminh · April 2022

sda said:
It seems I will need to shop for tires sooner than I was expecting. I did a quick tread depth measurement over the weekend and the tires were showing around 4-4.5/32. They are Bridgestone Potenzas RE97 with 27k on the Passat. They are wearing evenly.

27k seems like rather low mileage for tires these days. What size?

Anyway, if by any chance you're a Costco member they are again running their special sale of $150 off of a set of 4 Michelins. The sale expires May 17th. If they are out of stock on the tire you want they might even order a set for you. The Michelin value brand BFGoodrich is also on sale for $110 off a set of 4.

I still love my new Michelin CrossClimate2 tires from Costco. The CC2 tires make such a difference in how my car accelerates, handles, and brakes compared to the Goodyear tires I used to have.

graphicguy · April 2022

@roadburner…..thanks. I know Hondas aren't anywhere close to your taste (well maybe an NSX).

benjaminh said:

graphicguy said:
....The Touring model has a different suspension than the TLX. It uses a version of the Adaptive suspension that the TLX S-Type uses. It makes a significant difference in both handling and ride over the EX-L.

It's also faster than the EX-L (still slower than the TLX. though...but not by much).

I could go on and on. It's quite a drive compared to anything else I had driven before. It's smoother, it's quieter, it has better tech, it's quick, it steers well.....it's what Honda does.

I told them if they could beat Carmax's bid for my car, I'd trade for their car at MSRP. Long and short of it, they beat Carmax by about $700.

Done deal.

They wrote me a check for the delta of what the Accord cost and what they were giving me for the TLX....
Amazing deal. You not only got to drive your 2021 TLX for free, but it seems like this deal paid you a significant amount for driving your TLX for the last 18 months or so. Didn't you pay something like $3k below list for the TLX? Depending on how much you drive you'll probably save around $1500 a year on gas with the Accord hybrid. The adaptive suspension in the Accord Touring a very nice feature not found on your TLX, and it also has other features that weren't on your TLX like ventilated front seats, heated rear seats, head-up display, wireless Carplay/AA, etc. As you say, the touch screen in the Accord is probably easier to use that the touch pad control in the TLX.

I'm sorry to lose a fellow Acura owner, but it sounds like a great car. There are a few things that are nicer from my pov on the Acura, including the ELS sound system, better handling, quieter ride, and nicer interior (seats, door handles, etc.), but overall the Accord Touring is a very impressive luxury car that should hold its value very well.

Yeah...the market is crazy.

I paid $42K and change for the TLX new. The Honda dealership already has it on their lot for about $45K. Even if they sell it for $44K, they still make out OK. Go figure.

My Acura dealer has zero TLXs in stock.

The Honda dealer has one other Accord in stock, but they had a "sold" sign on it when I went to pick mine up. They say sedans aren't selling well. Couldn't prove that by me. I think so many manufacturers have abandoned sedans that those that still make them are reaping the benefit. And, the whole high gas prices thing right now makes a Hybrid a high demand vehicle in a market full of high demand for anything new.

Ford dealership contacted me about the Bronco. Apparently, they haven't sold it yet. Told them to take me off their call list. Surprised they called me to begin with given our last interaction about their pricing bait and switch.

You're right about the stereo. The one in the Accord is good. But, the ELS in the TLX is significantly better. Accord dash doesn't have fancy stitching on the dash, but quality of materials is still quite good.

Realized it doesn't have a transmission, just clutch connection from the gas engine to the front wheels. But, I can't tell any change overall. Around town, it stays pretty much in EV mode until the lithium batteries need to be recharged or I get on it aggressively. All seamless and I wouldn't notice unless I try hard to hear what's happening. You don't feel any change in the drivetrain. Typical Honda....the gas engine is super smooth when it comes on.

Still getting used to hitting the start button and hearing......nothing! Also getting used to the crazy sound the drivetrain makes so others know there's a car nearby. It's an electric/Outer Limits sound. No mechanical sounds, at all.

Instant torque is a nice add! I get why the EV crowd likes the sensation.

TLX was more visceral. It was fun to spool up the turbo in that. Felt the transmission shift (firm shifts). Getting used to not having any of that sensation. No start/stop shutter in the Accord, either. Like that.

Figuring, I've owned some different engine configurations......push rod, turbo, rotary, and now this EV/Hybrid. All of them good. All of them interesting for very different reasons.

ab348 · April 2022

To illustrate how the Canadian car market is different from that in the US, I looked at Honda Canada's website to get up to speed on the Accord Touring hybrid. Here they are available in your choice of white or black paint, and only with a black interior. So GG's new ride would be a unicorn here in terms of colors.

benjaminh · April 2022

ab348 said:
To illustrate how the Canadian car market is different from that in the US, I looked at Honda Canada's website to get up to speed on the Accord Touring hybrid. Here they are available in your choice of white or black paint, and only with a black interior. So GG's new ride would be a unicorn here in terms of colors.

Bummer. But there are a few good things on cars in Canada that we can't get here. The Civic Si in Canada is like a super luxe Si with the following things not found on the US version: fog lights, parking sensors, heated seats front and rear, heated steering wheel, auto dimming review mirror, etc. And yet converting the currency the Canadian version actually costs less than the US version. In this 3-minute video Jason describes the differences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrZ3b0dgzac

ab348 · April 2022

Tesla shares nosedive, thank Elon for that:

https://www.autonews.com/executives/tesla-shares-plunge-could-lose-100-billion-market-value-single-session

Tesla Inc. is on pace to wipe off over $100 billion from its valuation in a single session Tuesday with the stock down about 11 percent to $891.69 on investors’ concern that Elon Musk may sell shares to complete his $44 billion takeover of Twitter Inc.

The electric-vehicle maker’s market capitalization is already down nearly $250 billion since April 4, when Musk disclosed that he increased his Twitter stake. That’s a drop of roughly 23 percent. The dollar value of Musk’s 17 percent stake in Tesla has shrunk by about $42 billion, almost double the equity portion he pledged in the Twitter transaction.

Tesla’s stock price is sinking amid a broader selloff in equity markets around the world due to a slower economic expansion and persistent inflation. In addition, investors have fled high-growth companies as the Federal Reserve prepares to embark on a series of significant rate hikes. The stock ended the day Tuesday down 12.74 percent in after hours trading, closing at $874.49.

driver100 · April 2022

@benjaminh
That video was really interesting, and that little Honda is a lot of car for the money, especially the Canadian version. I don't know why Honda would pack so many more features onto the Canadian version. One reason might be that Canadians buy small cars in big numbers, so maybe that market is more competitive in Canada. I like that it even had a steering wheel warmer, and they placed the button right on the steering wheel. I have to search around for mine way back on the steering column. And heated rear seats too, I don't think that my car has that! The instrument panel.....all digital and changeable looked really good. I guess GGs car has all those features and more....it's a really nice car.

roadburner · April 2022

benjaminh said:

ab348 said:
To illustrate how the Canadian car market is different from that in the US, I looked at Honda Canada's website to get up to speed on the Accord Touring hybrid. Here they are available in your choice of white or black paint, and only with a black interior. So GG's new ride would be a unicorn here in terms of colors.
Bummer. But there are a few good things on cars in Canada that we can't get here. The Civic Si in Canada is like a super luxe Si with the following things not found on the US version: fog lights, parking sensors, heated seats front and rear, heated steering wheel, auto dimming review mirror, etc. And yet converting the currency the Canadian version actually costs less than the US version. In this 3-minute video Jason describes the differences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrZ3b0dgzac

Hyundai did about the same thing with the Veloster N, heated seats and wheel are MIA in US spec cars.

fintail · April 2022

benjaminh said:

ab348 said:
To illustrate how the Canadian car market is different from that in the US, I looked at Honda Canada's website to get up to speed on the Accord Touring hybrid. Here they are available in your choice of white or black paint, and only with a black interior. So GG's new ride would be a unicorn here in terms of colors.
Bummer. But there are a few good things on cars in Canada that we can't get here. The Civic Si in Canada is like a super luxe Si with the following things not found on the US version: fog lights, parking sensors, heated seats front and rear, heated steering wheel, auto dimming review mirror, etc. And yet converting the currency the Canadian version actually costs less than the US version. In this 3-minute video Jason describes the differences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrZ3b0dgzac

MB did the same for USA vs Canada - some features that didn't exist here (CDN spec E-class got power folding mirrors at least a few years before USDM), and more models with standard leather too. I've always assumed it was because leasing in the US was/is such a big deal, so the cars could be built down to a lower price to increase margins, and most drivers wouldn't care.

mjfloyd1 · April 2022

Boy am I glad that I didn’t go to Harvard

https://www.newser.com/story/319817/harvard-we-benefited-from-profoundly-immoral-practices.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top

driver100 · April 2022

fintail said:

benjaminh said:

ab348 said:
To illustrate how the Canadian car market is different from that in the US, I looked at Honda Canada's website to get up to speed on the Accord Touring hybrid. Here they are available in your choice of white or black paint, and only with a black interior. So GG's new ride would be a unicorn here in terms of colors.
Bummer. But there are a few good things on cars in Canada that we can't get here. The Civic Si in Canada is like a super luxe Si with the following things not found on the US version: fog lights, parking sensors, heated seats front and rear, heated steering wheel, auto dimming review mirror, etc. And yet converting the currency the Canadian version actually costs less than the US version. In this 3-minute video Jason describes the differences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrZ3b0dgzac
MB did the same for USA vs Canada - some features that didn't exist here (CDN spec E-class got power folding mirrors at least a few years before USDM), and more models with standard leather too. I've always assumed it was because leasing in the US was/is such a big deal, so the cars could be built down to a lower price to increase margins, and most drivers wouldn't care.

.......and most places in Canada get cold enough in the winter that seat warmers are a must and a heated steering wheel is a nice bonus. Maybe those steering wheels are good for people with arthritis.

snakeweasel · April 2022

mjfloyd1 said:
Boy am I glad that I didn’t go to Harvard

Oh, A Yale man I see.

explorerx4 · April 2022

Yale's history isn't all that different.
https://news.yale.edu/2021/10/27/conference-explore-yales-history-slavery

abacomike · April 2022

@driver100 said:
.......and most places in Canada get cold enough in the winter that seat warmers are a must and a heated steering wheel is a nice bonus. Maybe those steering wheels are good for people with arthritis.

I have the heated front seats (cooled as well) and the heated steering wheel - never turned on the heated steering wheel and I would need to look up the details as to where the on/off button or switch is if I ever get an opportunity to use it. Here in Florida, a heated steering wheel is a “necessity”? 🤓🤪😜

snakeweasel · April 2022

abacomike said:

@driver100 said:

.......and most places in Canada get cold enough in the winter that seat warmers are a must and a heated steering wheel is a nice bonus. Maybe those steering wheels are good for people with arthritis.

I have the heated front seats (cooled as well) and the heated steering wheel - never turned on the heated steering wheel and I would need to look up the details as to where the on/off button or switch is if I ever get an opportunity to use it. Here in Florida, a heated steering wheel is a “necessity”? 🤓🤪😜

I find that the cloth seats in the Sonata really don't feel cold even in the coldest weather but the leather seats in the 4 Series can be cold even in mild weather so they need to be heated.

graphicguy · April 2022

ab348 said:
To illustrate how the Canadian car market is different from that in the US, I looked at Honda Canada's website to get up to speed on the Accord Touring hybrid. Here they are available in your choice of white or black paint, and only with a black interior. So GG's new ride would be a unicorn here in terms of colors.

What? No red? Sacrilege!

Interior…..lighting…daylight!

henryn · April 2022

abacomike said:

@driver100 said:

.......and most places in Canada get cold enough in the winter that seat warmers are a must and a heated steering wheel is a nice bonus. Maybe those steering wheels are good for people with arthritis.

I have the heated front seats (cooled as well) and the heated steering wheel - never turned on the heated steering wheel and I would need to look up the details as to where the on/off button or switch is if I ever get an opportunity to use it. Here in Florida, a heated steering wheel is a “necessity”? 🤓🤪😜

My 2018 F150 was very well equipped, actually better equipped than I realized. Shortly after I purchased it, I was out on a date and the woman said something about feeling a bit chilly. I was going to suggest turning on the heater, but she said "I'll just turn on the seat heater." I had my mouth open to say something about not having any such equipment, but before I could utter the words she had turned on the seat heater. Sometimes it's best just to keep quiet.

jmonroe1 · April 2022

graphicguy said:

ab348 said:
To illustrate how the Canadian car market is different from that in the US, I looked at Honda Canada's website to get up to speed on the Accord Touring hybrid. Here they are available in your choice of white or black paint, and only with a black interior. So GG's new ride would be a unicorn here in terms of colors.
What? No red? Sacrilege!

Interior…..lighting…daylight!

Now you’re just showing off.

jmonroe

laurasdada · April 2022

I'll say it again, the heated steering wheel is man's greatest achievement. Ok, maybe second after pizza.

stickguy · April 2022

I had that on my sonata. It was nice but I could live without.

Automatic wipers, now that was a great feature I wish I had now.

graphicguy · April 2022

jmonroe1 said:

graphicguy said:

ab348 said:
To illustrate how the Canadian car market is different from that in the US, I looked at Honda Canada's website to get up to speed on the Accord Touring hybrid. Here they are available in your choice of white or black paint, and only with a black interior. So GG's new ride would be a unicorn here in terms of colors.
What? No red? Sacrilege!

Interior…..lighting…daylight!

Now you’re just showing off.

jmonroe

How do you like me now?

I know I car geek out when others post their rides here. I always want to see more. This is a humble Accord. But, it’s my interim step to a “real” EV. That’s significant for me.

benjaminh · April 2022

I liked seeing the pix of the Accord. I'm interested to know how you feel about the pros and cons of the push-button transmission. The benefit seems to be if you've got a drink in the cup holder you don't need to maneuver around the shifter. But on the other hand I kind of like the feel of putting the shifter into drive.

On a different topic, what do you folks put in your door pockets? After years of experimenting here's what I try to have in the passenger pocket—Kleenex, water bottle, granola bar, and a compact umbrella. Believe it or not all of those things get used at some point.

driver100 · April 2022

benjaminh said:
I liked seeing the pix of the Accord. I'm interested to know how you feel about the pros and cons of the push-button transmission. The benefit seems to be if you've got a drink in the cup holder you don't need to maneuver around the shifter. But on the other hand I kind of like the feel of putting the shifter into drive.

On a different topic, what do you folks put in your door pockets? After years of experimenting here's what I try to have in the passenger pocket—Kleenex, water bottle, granola bar, and a compact umbrella. Believe it or not most of those things get used at some point.

I was going to ask GG how that transmission worked....I checked a photo. Would you say that is easy to use and pretty much foolproof?
I keep the same things in my door....umbrella is in the passenger side for the few times it is needed. I also keep a notepad and a pen clipped to it.

oldfarmer50 · April 2022

laurasdada said:
I'll say it again, the heated steering wheel is man's greatest achievement. Ok, maybe second after pizza.

Some of the car we drive have heated/cooled seats and steering wheels. I welcome the heated steering wheel and seats on a cold day but those cooled seats I just can’t get used to. Even on a hot day it makes me feel clammy, like my back is sweating.

oldfarmer50 · April 2022

snakeweasel said:

abacomike said:

@driver100 said:

.......and most places in Canada get cold enough in the winter that seat warmers are a must and a heated steering wheel is a nice bonus. Maybe those steering wheels are good for people with arthritis.

I have the heated front seats (cooled as well) and the heated steering wheel - never turned on the heated steering wheel and I would need to look up the details as to where the on/off button or switch is if I ever get an opportunity to use it. Here in Florida, a heated steering wheel is a “necessity”? 🤓🤪😜

I find that the cloth seats in the Sonata really don't feel cold even in the coldest weather but the leather seats in the 4 Series can be cold even in mild weather so they need to be heated.

The vinyl seats in my hooptie van are self heating. You just leave it in the sun for an hour and you need asbestos pants. Conversely, if you want them cooled you roll down the window and drive fast.

stickguy · April 2022

I never liked the blower seats either.

Push button trans works fine. Once you get used to it, 2nd nature. And no need to look down on it. I still prefer a lever though.

Right now I have buttons on one car, and a dial on the other. And manage fine!

oldfarmer50 · April 2022

graphicguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

graphicguy said:

ab348 said:
To illustrate how the Canadian car market is different from that in the US, I looked at Honda Canada's website to get up to speed on the Accord Touring hybrid. Here they are available in your choice of white or black paint, and only with a black interior. So GG's new ride would be a unicorn here in terms of colors.
What? No red? Sacrilege!

Interior…..lighting…daylight!

Now you’re just showing off.

jmonroe
How do you like me now?

I know I car geek out when others post their rides here. I always want to see more. This is a humble Accord. But, it’s my interim step to a “real” EV. That’s significant for me.

I never got to drive many Honda’s but since the company is buying them retail now we get a few Accords. They are roomy and comfortable with a lot of back seat room.

That color combo on yours is my dream combination.

oldfarmer50 · April 2022

driver100 said:

benjaminh said:
I liked seeing the pix of the Accord. I'm interested to know how you feel about the pros and cons of the push-button transmission. The benefit seems to be if you've got a drink in the cup holder you don't need to maneuver around the shifter. But on the other hand I kind of like the feel of putting the shifter into drive.

On a different topic, what do you folks put in your door pockets? After years of experimenting here's what I try to have in the passenger pocket—Kleenex, water bottle, granola bar, and a compact umbrella. Believe it or not most of those things get used at some point.
I was going to ask GG how that transmission worked....I checked a photo. Would you say that is easy to use and pretty much foolproof?
I keep the same things in my door....umbrella is in the passenger side for the few times it is needed. I also keep a notepad and a pen clipped to it.

It took me a while to figure out how to get out of Park on one of those the other day. Not really intuitive. I also don’t like the buttons on the GMC vehicles where you have to lift the button instead of push. Ditto on the dial shifters on Chryslers and Fords.

benjaminh · April 2022

driver100 said:
....I also keep a notepad and a pen clipped to it.

Yes, this is a good idea. I was taking someone who doesn't drive to the bank recently, and they asked, "Do you have a pen in the car?" Fortunately I keep one under the armrest area, which allowed them to endorse their checks.

graphicguy · April 2022

driver100 said:

benjaminh said:
I liked seeing the pix of the Accord. I'm interested to know how you feel about the pros and cons of the push-button transmission. The benefit seems to be if you've got a drink in the cup holder you don't need to maneuver around the shifter. But on the other hand I kind of like the feel of putting the shifter into drive.

On a different topic, what do you folks put in your door pockets? After years of experimenting here's what I try to have in the passenger pocket—Kleenex, water bottle, granola bar, and a compact umbrella. Believe it or not most of those things get used at some point.
I was going to ask GG how that transmission worked....I checked a photo. Would you say that is easy to use and pretty much foolproof?
I keep the same things in my door....umbrella is in the passenger side for the few times it is needed. I also keep a notepad and a pen clipped to it.

Had the button transmission in both my TLX and now in the Accord. Really, after the first couple of days in the TLX, my hand fell readily to whatever push/pull I was wanting. Plus, in addition to being in different places on the console, the buttons are a different feel/shape.

Makes sense. Drive is the most prominent and at the lowest position. Reverse you must pull backwards (novel idea...LOL!). Park is at the top. Not sure I've used neutral more than 5 times in any given year.

On the TLX, the gear took a split second to go into gear. In the Accord, it's instantaneous because it really doesn't have a transmission per se. You hit the button you want and go...no waiting for the transmission to engage.

When I test drove the Bronco, it had a dial to select the gear. I had to look down to see where I needed to go to choose what I wanted to do. But, I'd wager after a brief adjustment period, it was become 2nd nature, too.

I would imagine it is the same for someone using a stalk in a Mercedes to engage the transmission. A little adjustment period at first, but then it becomes 2nd nature.

Overall, I like the new dial/button selectors.

As an aside, I've read where others bemoan the end of parking brake handles. On the TLX and now the Accord, it's an electronic parking brake. You stop the car and turn it off, the parking brake automatically engages. You start it back up and put it in gear, and the parking brake releases. Easy-Peezy!

jmonroe1 · April 2022

benjaminh said:
I liked seeing the pix of the Accord. I'm interested to know how you feel about the pros and cons of the push-button transmission. The benefit seems to be if you've got a drink in the cup holder you don't need to maneuver around the shifter. But on the other hand I kind of like the feel of putting the shifter into drive.

On a different topic, what do you folks put in your door pockets? After years of experimenting here's what I try to have in the passenger pocket—Kleenex, water bottle, granola bar, and a compact umbrella. Believe it or not all of those things get used at some point.

That doesn’t look neat, plus I never eat or drink in my car. My philosophy about that is, since my cars don’t have tables, there is no need for eat and drink in the car. I even had this rule when raising 2 sons. Got a bit of flack early on but they eventually learned.

The umbrella, OK, but on the floor behind the passenger seat so I can easily grab it without getting wet before getting out of the car. I might be tough but I can melt.

jmonroe

stickguy · April 2022

I never push the park button. Goes in automatically when turn car off

driver100 · April 2022

jmonroe1 said:

benjaminh said:
I liked seeing the pix of the Accord. I'm interested to know how you feel about the pros and cons of the push-button transmission. The benefit seems to be if you've got a drink in the cup holder you don't need to maneuver around the shifter. But on the other hand I kind of like the feel of putting the shifter into drive.

On a different topic, what do you folks put in your door pockets? After years of experimenting here's what I try to have in the passenger pocket—Kleenex, water bottle, granola bar, and a compact umbrella. Believe it or not all of those things get used at some point.

That doesn’t look neat, plus I never eat or drink in my car. My philosophy about that is, since my cars don’t have tables, there is no need for eat and drink in the car.

jmonroe

Oh yeh,

henryn · April 2022

I have the rotary dial shifter in my Pacifica, and after a year I'm used to it but I still don't like it. I have mentioned before that I particularly don't like that it is right next to the rotary dial for the stereo volume control.

explorerx4 · April 2022

In certain situations, I like to use the Auto Hold feature.
I prefer the transmission push buttons to be up on the center stack instead of on the center console.

graphicguy · April 2022

stickguy said:
I never push the park button. Goes in automatically when turn car off

Only time I use park is if someone is parked in my spot in the garage (not mentioning names, but she's of the fairer gender) and I need to run into the house to get the offending vehicle out of my space. Truth told, it's just as easy to hit the button to turn the car off, run in, come back out, hit the button and choose Drive.

I also only just turn the car off when parking. Park and e-brake are automatically engaged.

jmonroe1 · April 2022

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

benjaminh said:
I liked seeing the pix of the Accord. I'm interested to know how you feel about the pros and cons of the push-button transmission. The benefit seems to be if you've got a drink in the cup holder you don't need to maneuver around the shifter. But on the other hand I kind of like the feel of putting the shifter into drive.

On a different topic, what do you folks put in your door pockets? After years of experimenting here's what I try to have in the passenger pocket—Kleenex, water bottle, granola bar, and a compact umbrella. Believe it or not all of those things get used at some point.

That doesn’t look neat, plus I never eat or drink in my car. My philosophy about that is, since my cars don’t have tables, there is no need for eat and drink in the car.

jmonroe
Oh yeh,

That’s not MY car.

jmonroe

Michaell · April 2022

In the ID.4 we just ordered, the gear selector is a twist knob next to the gauge cluster:

Twist forward to select "Drive" or "Brake" - the latter turns on one-pedal mode.

Twist backward for reverse.

Button on the end engages Park and the parking brake.

stickguy · April 2022

Germans love to invent solutions for things that aren’t actually problems.

graphicguy · April 2022

OK… the only reason I clicked this link was because the 280ZX pictured in that bronze color was similar to a car I owned at one time. But, I need someone to translate this version of English for me….

https://www.hotcars.com/1979-nissan-280zx-cost-today/

graphicguy · April 2022

Michaell said:
In the ID.4 we just ordered, the gear selector is a twist knob next to the gauge cluster:

Twist forward to select "Drive" or "Brake" - the latter turns on one-pedal mode.

Twist backward for reverse.

Button on the end engages Park and the parking brake.

Had an uncle who had a Chrysler something or other that looked like this. I remember it having a push button transmission (which at the time, I thought was pretty cool).

https://images.app.goo.gl/ixkz7NVKzXPDLxes7

ab348 · April 2022

stickguy said:
Germans love to invent solutions for things that aren’t actually problems.

That must explain the BMW beer-tap shifter. Cadillac modelled their take on it in the BMW style. It was utterly unintuitive. Dealers were posting YouTube videos that were 10 minutes long trying to explain how to use it. I got a loaner Caddy with it one time and inadvertently put it in manual mode without realizing it and couldn’t get it out of 1st gear. Ended up having to pull over and shut the car down to get back to normal. When I got home I stayed in it in the driveway, got the owners manual out and tried to read up on it. I gave up when I got to several pages trying to explain how to put it in neutral with the engine running as you might do in an old-style pull-through car wash. Hopeless.

GM seemed to make some changes to it after a couple of years to simplify its use. It seems better now and I think I could live with it. I don’t like the dial type of selector but the push buttons seem OK to me.

laurasdada · April 2022

I had the rising hockey puck shifter in the XF. Got used to it fairly quickly, a nice hunk of metal. But, when the sun shone down upon it, hoo boy, did it get hot! Learned to cover the center console when the Jag was under the hot Tuscan sun.

benjaminh · April 2022

Went to Costco today for my free 8k tire rotation and balance, but unfortunately they said the wear patterns on my Michelins might indicate my alignment needs adjustment. So tomorrow it's off to the Acura dealer for that.

Anyway, here's a chart of EV market share in the US right now. It'll be interesting to see what things will look like by the end of 2022, the end of 2023, and so on. My guess is that this year Ford will pass VW and Hyundai to get to number 2 in EV sales, and then stay there. GM will be close behind Ford at number 3 in 2023. Tesla is clearly still going to be in first place as far as the eye can see, but even so their EV market share is likely to fall from 75% to about 50% by the end of 2025. I'm still guessing there might be such a deluge of EVs in 2025 that we'll have enough competition for some price cutting.

driver100 · April 2022

This guy tried to haul a full load of bricks in his Sienna;

They say the repair will be about $1000, a U-Haul trailer would have been $20.

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