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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    I may be just buying in to the urban myth but don’t those highly tuned Porsche engines need an overhaul at 50k miles? Would you be buying a big expense with that one?

    Porsche makes stout engines. Plenty of cars make 100K with nothing more than (expensive) maintenance.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,591

    @au1994 said:
    “Did we give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? ... Nothing is over until we decide it is!" Toga!”. John Blutarsky, a great American.

    I’ll have what he’s having…

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    I'll be interested to see if this makes reserve.. guessing it's under, right now.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,121
    au1994 said:

    “Did we give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? ... Nothing is over until we decide it is!" Toga!”. John Blutarsky, a great American.

    That's Senator Blutarsky, to you.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,121

    qbrozen said:

    So C&B followed up with me again about the Pajero. Wanted to know if I fixed the title yet. Told them originally I didn't want to go through that trouble and I'd think about it but likely would just keep driving it until the miles matched up. haha.
    ANYWAY, I told them this time that I sold it. That apparently didn't sit well with the rep who is claiming "substantial resources went into putting together your listing." Gee, then maybe you should have just listed it instead of blocking it for a clerical error. Or, if that is such a big sticking point for you, look at that detail before doing any work on the ad? Crazy, I know.
    Obviously, these interactions have left a very bad taste in my mouth and it is doubtful I will work with them again. Other than the low bidding result, BaT wound up being much easier, friendlier, and faster to work with.

    I would seriously consider writing an email to Doug DeMuro about the experience. Will he read it? Who knows. But he should at least have the opportunity to be aware of the terrible customer experience.
    I had a better thought .... write up a comparison of your C&B and BaT experiences and see if you can sell the article to someone - C&D, for example. I doubt there are many folks who have used both sites to sell their cars.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    that version of the motor is not at all highly tuned. Or stressed. If maintained correctly (as in oil changes) it should last a long, long time. Actually good that it has some miles on it.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,591
    Car and Driver would love to talk up BaT since they have the same parent owners. I didn't realize this until they had a write up on the Montero I bought-

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    made reserve at $30,8xx. Bubba only missed by a grand taking home his dream car.

    should have gone for it.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    I'm stunned.. $30,805

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,591
    That seemed to be a win for the buyer.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    tifighter said:

    That seemed to be a win for the buyer.

    Without a doubt.. I guess if it shows him as winning, then it made reserve?

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,591
    Yes. If it didn't meet reserve, it would say so.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,356
    Michaell said:

    au1994 said:

    “Did we give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? ... Nothing is over until we decide it is!" Toga!”. John Blutarsky, a great American.

    That's Senator Blutarsky, to you.
    You are correct sir!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    kyfdx said:

    I'm stunned.. $30,805

    Kicking yourself now for quitting?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    stickguy said:

    kyfdx said:

    I'm stunned.. $30,805

    Kicking yourself now for quitting?
    Nope, scroll up to see my last post..

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,591
    kyfdx said:

    I have to be more careful. I was uncomfortably close to owning that vehicle. :/

    I think you've got the wrong forum.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,356
    stickguy said:

    that version of the motor is not at all highly tuned. Or stressed. If maintained correctly (as in oil changes) it should last a long, long time. Actually good that it has some miles on it.

    No IMS bearing, I don’t believe. That huge cause of problems on some models in the past.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    I checked.. That's the first bid that user has made on an BaT car. One and done.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    if you are going to troll for steals only, better sharpen up your lowball pencil!

    I guess the other guy was just waiting for a steal to show up and jumped on it. Or possible he joined just to bid on that one?

    at least I learned more about the versions of that motor, and what years to look for to avoid the common problems on earlier ones. sounds like the 2011-2012 non-S is the way to go on these.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    stickguy said:

    if you are going to troll for steals only, better sharpen up your lowball pencil!

    I guess the other guy was just waiting for a steal to show up and jumped on it. Or possible he joined just to bid on that one?

    at least I learned more about the versions of that motor, and what years to look for to avoid the common problems on earlier ones. sounds like the 2011-2012 non-S is the way to go on these.

    Definitely 2009-2016

    Looks like he joined in 2018, but had never made a comment or bid, until today.

    That was a steal. That car is just a little off from what I wanted. But, who knows if that guy would have kept bidding, if someone topped him?

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,591
    Would absolutely love to give this a drive-

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-toyota-mr2-spyder-22/

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    First thing I did when I got back from my Dr appt was check the Cayman auction.
    Saw that someone outbid Kyfdx, so 2 happy people?
    Stopped by a close by Ford dealer and they really did stock up on Lariat's Tremor's.
    Pretty much al the others have lots of XLT's.
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    Perfect example why not to get a WRX with a CVT. :#
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQ6chI7zUQ
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435

    First thing I did when I got back from my Dr appt was check the Cayman auction.
    Saw that someone outbid Kyfdx, so 2 happy people?
    Stopped by a close by Ford dealer and they really did stock up on Lariat's Tremor's.
    Pretty much al the others have lots of XLT's.

    someone near my house recently replaced a 10ish YO Chevy with an Alto Blue F150 Tremor. Very sharp looking. Have not seen it up close enough to read if it is a lariat or not.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    tifighter said:

    Would absolutely love to give this a drive-

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-toyota-mr2-spyder-22/

    I love those. test drove one when they first came out. Quite fun, and a whole lot more comfortable than a Miata. Just zero cargo room. As in, a weekend away means the passenger rights with a duffle bag in their lap! But I would be happy to have one as a toy.

    no clue how much difference the motor swap makes, or if it opens up any cans of worms, but at least it wasn't turbo'd up too.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    @sticjguy,
    Lariat are Tremor separate models, can't have them both together.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    edited March 2023
    so what does the front fender side badge say? It has Tremor graphics on the side of the bed.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,356
    You’re not kidding. There is literally no luggage space unless you ditch the spare.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188

    @sticjguy,
    Lariat are Tremor separate models, can't have them both together.

    Is it a Maverick or an F-150?

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    I bought my '02 by making a bid at lunch- thinking no way would I get it...

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    edited March 2023
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    that looks just like the one near me. Price is eye watering. My budget is more aligned to a $29K Maverick Lariat luxury hybrid. which also is much more suited to my needs!

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,464
    tifighter said:

    @jmonroe1 said:

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    Savvy owners know when to call it quits and not push their luck. But, now that you’ve been outbid, you got away clean. B)

    jmonroe

    This is a 2 seat sports car, not a Hyundai. Most people buy one, keep it two years, then move on to the next toy. I agree with @kyfdx that a six year ownership period is a positive, not a negative.

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    Who said anything about a Hyundai? I don’t own one. However, you can say that about every car out there that isn’t a 2-seat sports car. There’s a time to shed every car. Porsches for sure, even Tesla’s.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,464
    stickguy said:

    made reserve at $30,8xx. Bubba only missed by a grand taking home his dream car.

    should have gone for it.

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    To my way of thinking, if you’re looking for a car like that, unless they come by every other day, if you not willing to spend around 5 grand more to get what you want, you’re a flake not a real buyer. Hell, option packages on cars today can fetch close to if not more (depending on the car, like Benz, BMW etc.) than 5 grand.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,464

    Perfect example why not to get a WRX with a CVT. :#
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQ6chI7zUQ

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    Geeze, the lack of car skills kids don’t have today is worrisome. In my day they’d have never found that car. I know, the didn’t have WRX’s in my day but you get the idea.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,559

    Perfect example why not to get a WRX with a CVT. :#
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQ6chI7zUQ

    What dummies!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,559
    jmonroe1 said:

    Perfect example why not to get a WRX with a CVT. :#
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQ6chI7zUQ

    ————————————————
    Geeze, the lack of car skills kids don’t have today is worrisome. In my day they’d have never found that car. I know, the didn’t have WRX’s in my day but you get the idea.

    jmonroe
    Yeah but in your day they could foil car thieves by hiding the hand crank.😆

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,464

    jmonroe1 said:

    Perfect example why not to get a WRX with a CVT. :#
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQ6chI7zUQ

    ————————————————
    Geeze, the lack of car skills kids don’t have today is worrisome. In my day they’d have never found that car. I know, the didn’t have WRX’s in my day but you get the idea.

    jmonroe
    Yeah but in your day they could foil car thieves by hiding the hand crank.😆
    ————————————————
    Yeah, I hated it when they did that. :'(

    jmonroe
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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 6,952
    Went back to work today and we were busy. First trip was up to Stuart FL and then down to the Ft. Lauderdale airport. Next trip was up to Vero Beach & back down to Ft. Lauderdale airport. We drove like 346 miles total, the chase van, a record from what I heard. The vertigo has gotten a bit better so felt I could leave the house. Did turn down working tomorrow as I don't want to push my luck here. But I did finally read up on BPPV vertigo, the kind I suffer with, and learned a lot. It's just something I'm going to have to deal with from now on it seems as it's happened now four times in almost 13 months. The worst part is never knowing when it's going to hit, it's that unknown that I'm having trouble dealing with. And the worst part is that when it does hit, all I can do is stay home and move around as little as possible as the dizziness is major bad!

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,029
    jmonroe1 said:


    Who said anything about a Hyundai? I don’t own one. However, you can say that about every car out there that isn’t a 2-seat sports car. There’s a time to shed every car. Porsches for sure, even Tesla’s.

    jmonroe

    What’s that Old Man Gray-painted vehicle you drive? Isn’t it a Genesis? 😮

    It comes out of an assembly plant that produces Elantras and Tucsons as well.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,464
    ab348 said:

    jmonroe1 said:


    Who said anything about a Hyundai? I don’t own one. However, you can say that about every car out there that isn’t a 2-seat sports car. There’s a time to shed every car. Porsches for sure, even Tesla’s.

    jmonroe

    What’s that Old Man Gray-painted vehicle you drive? Isn’t it a Genesis? 😮

    It comes out of an assembly plant that produces Elantras and Tucsons as well.
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    I know I’m being a little slippery here but a Genesis is not technically a Hyundai. It’s a Genesis. The parent company, is of course Hyundai, but the car company is titled Genesis. You don’t call your Cadillac a General Motors, do you? The same as Chevy and Buick owners don’t call their cars General Motors. And folks that own Jeeps don’t call their cars FCA, right?

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,029
    I don't think GM ever produced a Chevrolet Cadillac, JM. But there was a Hyundai Genesis.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/hyundai/genesis-coupe/specs

    They have even been afflicted with the Hyundai engine fire disease/recalls that have plagued the more ordinary Hyundais. Hard for a leopard to change its spots, etc.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,559
    edited April 2023
    ab348 said:

    I don't think GM ever produced a Chevrolet Cadillac, JM. But there was a Hyundai Genesis.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/hyundai/genesis-coupe/specs

    They have even been afflicted with the Hyundai engine fire disease/recalls that have plagued the more ordinary Hyundais. Hard for a leopard to change its spots, etc.

    We saw a spectacular engine fire on the way to Manville NJ on 287 Thursday. An old Range Rover was cooked down to just a shell. Tied up traffic so bad northbound that we had to continue south and hook up with the Garden State Parkway down by Linden.

    As to recalls, I have an appointment with Kia to fix two but I also have two for the Mustang. So by comparison Kia isn’t that bad.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    @oldfamer50,
    What are the recalls for?
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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,221
    edited April 2023

    All you VW Golf plaid guys have nuthin’ on this new Jeep Wrangler Flannel edition

    @April fools

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435
    edited April 2023

    But I like it! Evolution of the Levi’s denim version from the 70s

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,435

    Got a surprise from ford this week. My maverick was scheduled for production the week of 4/10 so I logged into the tracker to see if it got pushed yet. And see if I could get a window sticker (usually shows up a couple weeks prior)

    Not only was the sticker produced (so now I actually know how much it costs!) they showed it as “in production” instead of “scheduled”. So it might be arriving sooner than I expected.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,121
    mjfloyd1 said:

    All you VW Golf plaid guys have nuthin’ on this new Jeep Wrangler Flannel edition

    @April fools

    Looks like the shirt the guy from the Busch Light commercials wears.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,029
    stickguy said:

    But I like it! Evolution of the Levi’s denim version from the 70s

    But you like everything... B)

    It would not have been bad if they had limited it to the seat upholstery/door cards. But the dashboard is a bridge too far.

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