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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,298
    Richmond, B.C., I would guess around 1970.


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,405
    66 big Ford back row on the right. Datsun 510 in front of the Ford. I always wanted one of those 510s.

    center front is a Datsun. 1200? 1600? Not good with the nomenclature from that era.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    ab348 said:

    That looks like a ‘49 Kaiser convertible.

    Y"up, turns out the Kaiser was the last American convertible to have four xdoors until the 1961 Continental.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,298
    When I saw this pic at the source, I thought it looked familiar and that I must have seen it here before. But I searched both using the search function below (which is now fairly useless as it searches the entire site and not just this specific board as one would suspect and which I believe used to be the case) so then went to Google and did a couple of searches there which returned results specifically from here, but with no sign of this pic. So here it is, stated as being from 1965.


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,405
    '60 Ford in front of a '58 Chevy. other side a '64 (I think) T Bird.

    and a lonely beetle fighting the battle for the imports! Though that black delivery van might be an import

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    @ab348
    Good display of some imports at BC

    The Vauxhall was an Epic with you while we had it as a Viva

    The Ford Cortina is an early one, from the period when our Ford co was branding that as a Consul Coritna - from 1962- autumn 64 - we had a modified grille thereafter which included the sidelights.

    Other way to spot the early Consul Cortinas is that there is no vent grille on the bar of the C- pillar (as we can see from this example) , whereas the Ford Cortina from 1965 had a small grille there

    The Cortina had probably the best ventilation of any saloon in Britain thereafter with eyeball swivel vents in the dash and the airways properly extracted through those rear vents.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    I spotted this little group of cars which were photographed in Wrexham in 1958, and although the nearest one is way too early for us here the far one is the most interesting....


  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,190
    @ab348 I'm not sure our search ever worked like that (but, it might have). What I'm sure about: it's mostly sucked forever.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,590
    magnette said:

    @ab348
    Good display of some imports at BC

    The Vauxhall was an Epic with you while we had it as a Viva

    The Ford Cortina is an early one, from the period when our Ford co was branding that as a Consul Coritna - from 1962- autumn 64 - we had a modified grille thereafter which included the sidelights.

    Other way to spot the early Consul Cortinas is that there is no vent grille on the bar of the C- pillar (as we can see from this example) , whereas the Ford Cortina from 1965 had a small grille there

    The Cortina had probably the best ventilation of any saloon in Britain thereafter with eyeball swivel vents in the dash and the airways properly extracted through those rear vents.

    I remember dad’s 72 and 74 Cortinas having those swivel vents and how they really provided a good flow of air.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,743
    Picture is Detroit, for sure.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,298
    edited June 2023
    Going away from the camera in Detroit is a cool-looking convertible with the top down which may be a '61 to '63 T-bird, but I can't say for sure, next to the Stroh's beer truck heading for the Chrysler freeway. Also, a reverse-slant rear window Mercury closer to the camera heading in that direction. I remember those used to be fairly common to see when I was a kid.

    @magnette, those early Cortinas were fairly popular here not just as transportation but among the road racing/rallying set. I think in those applications the rear springs would often be changed or lowered as such Cortinas often seemed to have a droop in the rear.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    In Richmond, what's the two tone thing under the "812" between a 510 and Bluebird? Seems familiar but I can't name it.

    In Detroit, notice there's almost nothing more than several years old, only a couple older cars in the distance driving away. Shows how styles aged quickly then, and in that climate, the cars themselves no doubt.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    magnette said:

    I spotted this little group of cars which were photographed in Wrexham in 1958, and although the nearest one is way too early for us here the far one is the most interesting....


    Jensen? With an Austin A30 van in the middle.

    By that time in the US, prewar cars that weren't collectible were mostly hoopties for high schoolers, I think.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,298
    fintail said:

    In Richmond, what's the two tone thing under the "812" between a 510 and Bluebird? Seems familiar but I can't name it.

    I was trying to figure that out too. I was leaning towards an early Datsun 411 like the white one to its right.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    ab348 said:

    fintail said:

    In Richmond, what's the two tone thing under the "812" between a 510 and Bluebird? Seems familiar but I can't name it.

    I was trying to figure that out too. I was leaning towards an early Datsun 411 like the white one to its right.
    I had to snoop around for a minute - it's a Datsun 1000. Not sure if it was ever offered in the USDM, I have never seen one before:


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    Yard Birds, Chehalis WA, 70s - zooms well (those who know the place will remember the mascot):


  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,298
    A somewhat dubious-looking ‘68 Cutlass and a ‘68 Coronet.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,405
    newest car must be the nose of the early 70s big ford at the far right.

    red PU looks to be an International.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    ab348 said:

    When I saw this pic at the source, I thought it looked familiar and that I must have seen it here before. But I searched both using the search function below (which is now fairly useless as it searches the entire site and not just this specific board as one would suspect and which I believe used to be the case) so then went to Google and did a couple of searches there which returned results specifically from here, but with no sign of this pic. So here it is, stated as being from 1965.



    The silver car following the '60 Fordn is not a '59 Chevy, it's a '59 Mercury that looks just like our Monterey hardtop sedan. The windshield may be the biggest ever used on a car!

    The Detroit location is likely the reason for the scarcity of imports.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,743
    I only see a couple of wagons. On the left a white Falcon and a blue Pontiac(?), guessing one of the B-O-P's.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    edited June 2023
    Yard Birds again, probably 1963-64 ish by the plates and cars - quite a menagerie here, zooms nicely:


  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,400
    Second row. Studebaker, Bug, 58 Ford wagon. Third row has another Bug, and I think a 61 Ford.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,112
    I'm not seeing anything newer than '61 (the Chevy and Ford, 3rd row).
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    The green on white WA plate base started in 63. I think I see a 64 Chevy wagon kind of in the middle behind an old truck with wood stakes in the bed.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,112
    Got it. And there's a pretty modern-looking pair of headlights on the far right side, last headlights you can see. I guess with the good weather the older cars didn't automatically rust away after 2 years!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,743
    Two tone Nash wagon parked nose to nose with the early VW Bug.
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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,112

    Two tone Nash wagon parked nose to nose with the early VW Bug.

    I guess that's a Bug, but with an aftermarket engine cover with all those louvers? And the taillights don't look right. Anything else it could be?
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,112
    Maybe a Renault 4CV:

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    @fintail

    Sorry I haven't come back to you sooner but the car in the background of the A30 van is not a Jensen.

    (and for the record, the old girl in the foreground is a circa 1935/6 Morris Eight.)
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    I remember the Yardbirds as the forerunners of Led Zeppelin

    (Showing my age perhaps)
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Car parked in front of pole is a 1957 0r 1958 Mercury and that's definitely a 4CV next to the '61 Ford.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,190
    magnette said:

    I remember the Yardbirds as the forerunners of Led Zeppelin

    (Showing my age perhaps)

    Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton... all in the Yardbirds. :)

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited June 2023
    @texases

    Yes, I think thats a Renault 4CV although in the UK we had a version assembled here - in Acton, west London - which was called the Renault 750

    The one in the picture has some sort of temporary Dutch plates I think
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,743
    I went with the VW Bug because I wasn't the first one to note it as that.
    Have had some wrong guesses, so I waited. :#
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited June 2023
    In that second Yardbird shot the red/white 59 Mercury - either a Monterey or a Montclair?

    To it's left is a Hillman Minx Series VIII which was the last version of that 50's rounded shape - it was replaced from early 1957 by the new shape Mark I Minx which used the (eventually) finned body shape which was called the Audax project internally at Rotes_ it's eventual successor in turn was the Arrow...

    Just above that in the further row is a grey Valiant wagon - perhaps a 1960?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    edited June 2023
    magnette said:

    @fintail

    Sorry I haven't come back to you sooner but the car in the background of the A30 van is not a Jensen.

    (and for the record, the old girl in the foreground is a circa 1935/6 Morris Eight.)

    Maybe a Bristol? I seem to recall one with a rear bubble window like that.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    edited June 2023
    At Yard Birds, a real hen's tooth is in the second row, between the Beetle and a Studebaker at the left side end of the row. Appears to be a Datsun 310, one of the first Datsun models sold in the US.

    Cars tend to age gracefully in the PNW, especially west of the mountains where ice is rare and cars don't get sun baked. Even the oldest cars in that pic are barely older than a decade, while looking like real antiques - shows how styling changes have slowed a bit.

    The Yard Birds mascot (store, not the band :) ) is locally iconic, a huge figure of the bird, when I was young I imagined it being used as a kind of Trojan horse:


  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    @ab348

    Sorry - I lost your earlier post mentioning the Cortina suspension.

    I think the early Cortina here was pretty basic - particularly the 1200cc models - but it was pretty soon realised that with beefed up springs and a bigger motor they could clean up the saloon class series - which here was in various classes so you would get 1600cc class with perhaps BMW and Cortinas while the smaller classes were cleaned up by Mini Coopers ...

    They soon found that fitting stronger rear springs got them to stay on the track more often and they weren't as brittle either.

    When the Lotus Cortina came along initially that was too powerful for its rear suspension and they found that it was possible to snap off the rear axle mounting points which was obviously not a good feature,

    Having said that they got it right by 1964 when the Cortina 1600 GT (not a Lotus ) won the East African Safari rally outright .

    I remember seeing the winning car at the subsequent London Motor Show (I was about ten) and they had it parked on the stand with a layer of red dust over it and a few dents too.

    It was years later when I heard they had cleaned the cars when they finished Nairobi and when they flew them back to Britain they had to drive them round a quarry in Kent to get the dirty again...

    That car still shows up at Motor events now - it is part of Ford's Heritage collection.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    edited June 2023
    @fintail.

    Yes, It's a Bristol 405 - which I think is the only 4-door Bristol they sold.

    Here is another view of the rear


  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,678
    Looks like the source for the fins on certain Eldorado Cadillacs.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    @kyfdx

    Yes, my ears never recovered from my musical choices....

    Though I have turned more to the blues which were the original inspiration for those guys.

    Anyway, must Ramble on...
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,678

    Looks like the source for the fins on certain Eldorado Cadillacs.







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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,112
    Also a little like a BAT:

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,743
    Stopped at a gas station/convenience store today to fill up the Mustang.
    Little did I know I was going to be the Mystery Car.
    Went inside to get something to drink, One of the clerks said "Is that your car out there by #7? What is it, I have no idea". :s
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,405
    I kinda like it!

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    @imidazol97

    I hadn't thought about it but the Bristol 405 which was introduced around 1955 is possibly the first British car to have fins that way, I think.

    Not by long though as the Mk II Ford Consul /Zephyr/Zodiac was only a year of so later with little fins.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,400
    andys120 said:


    This is a Telo, a teeny tiny electric truck.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,112
    Here are the specs, which I'll believe when I see it:
    "Telo hasn’t detailed future releases or upgrades for the truck, but the initial model will offer 500 horsepower and a 0-60 mph time of four seconds. It weighs 4,400 pounds and can fast charge from 20-80 percent in 20 minutes. Pricing starts at $49,999, which the company notes does not include federal or local EV tax credits and incentives.

    Amazingly, the Telo truck measures just 152 inches long. It’s also only 73 inches tall and 66 inches wide – not that much larger than some of America’s smallest models. Telo said the truck offers seating for five and a five-foot bed within that footprint and notes that the design makes it easily manufacturable."
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,405
    Would work for me!

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