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roadburner · July 2023

I hate to break up the culinary discussion with an automotive post, but this morning I was in Louisville for a campaign event so I drove the C43; on the way back to the office I took a familiar on-ramp at double the posted advisory speed. The C43 simply shrugged it off- no tire squeal and very little body roll.
Color me extremely impressed.

jmonroe1 · July 2023

@driver100 said:
If my next long wait is in the morning I may bring a Coleman Stove, bacon and eggs.
Maybe that will make them get my car serviced faster!

Nice to have you back Mike. What does the Genesis dealer serve while waiting?

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Cold, leftover soup from Benz dealerships.

jmonroe

driver100 · July 2023

jmonroe1 said:

@driver100 said:

If my next long wait is in the morning I may bring a Coleman Stove, bacon and eggs.

Maybe that will make them get my car serviced faster!

Nice to have you back Mike. What does the Genesis dealer serve while waiting?

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Cold, leftover soup from Benz dealerships.

jmonroe

Nope......homemade wannabe alphabet soup and the chef shapes all those little letters.

jmonroe1 · July 2023

@driver100 said:
Nope......homemade wannabe alphabet soup and the chef shapes all those little letters.

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You’re on and have the chef make some Korean letters too so it’ll seem authentic in a Genny cafe.

jmonroe

driver100 · July 2023

jmonroe1 said:

@driver100 said:

Nope......homemade wannabe alphabet soup and the chef shapes all those little letters.

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You’re on and have the chef make some Korean letters too so it’ll seem authentic in a Genny cafe.

jmonroe

I don't think they have Korean Alphabet Soup....but they have this delicious looking stew that they probably serve;

tjc78 · July 2023

@roadburner said:
I hate to break up the culinary discussion with an automotive post, but this morning I was in Louisville for a campaign event so I drove the C43; on the way back to the office I took a familiar on-ramp at double the posted advisory speed. The C43 simply shrugged it off- no tire squeal and very little body roll.
Color me extremely impressed.

I took a 45 posted ramp at 75 today in a Mommy mobile. Does that count for anything 😜😜😜😜😜

roadburner · July 2023

tjc78 said:

@roadburner said:

I hate to break up the culinary discussion with an automotive post, but this morning I was in Louisville for a campaign event so I drove the C43; on the way back to the office I took a familiar on-ramp at double the posted advisory speed. The C43 simply shrugged it off- no tire squeal and very little body roll.

Color me extremely impressed.

I took a 45 posted ramp at 75 today in a Mommy mobile. Does that count for anything 😜😜😜😜😜

Sure- you are doing better than 95% of the so-called "drivers" that I encounter.

ab348 · July 2023

I remember when I was a kid getting a laugh out of an article about behaviour of male teenagers at the time, one of the things being that some liked to brag about how they seldom drove their parent’s car at less than twice the posted speed limit. Apparently those kids are all grown up now and some even post here. 🙄

andres3 · July 2023

ab348 said:
I remember when I was a kid getting a laugh out of an article about behaviour of male teenagers at the time, one of the things being that some liked to brag about how they seldom drove their parent’s car at less than twice the posted speed limit. Apparently those kids are all grown up now and some even post here. 🙄

The yellow and black speed signs are not speed limits per say, they are advisory, sort of like 130 KPH on the Autobahn. You are free to change the 1 to a 2 or 3.

andres3 · July 2023

And speaking of what culinary creations dealerships serve, I'm quite certain that the Dodge dealerships serve lemons.

jmonroe1 · July 2023

@andres3 said:
The yellow and black speed signs are not speed limits per se, they are advisory, sort of like 130 KPH on the Autobahn. You are free to change the 1 to a 2 or 3.

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But they’re more serious about the black and white signs.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · July 2023

@roadburner said:
Sure- you are doing better than 95% of the so-called "drivers" that I encounter.

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I seem to remember an old rule of thumb on curves where you subtract 10 from the speed limit and double that number. This is usually a safe top speed for an experienced driver but it won’t save you from getting a ticket if caught.

jmonroe

explorerx4 · July 2023

From 2019 but Golden Earring 's still got it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGG2YGRKis

stickguy · July 2023

mowed today again. grass was all shaggy again thanks to all the recent rain and since I did not have time to rake, decided to use the bag. Actually worked pretty well, left no mess, and did not really make it hard to push around (manual propelled version, me being the manual propulsion device). When it started to feel heavy I just popped bag off, and it dumped perfectly into the big paper lawn waste bags we use here. Ended up dumping the bag 5 times and it really filled the bag up. But very nice to have no raking to do.

Mower must have been happy to not have the extra workload of all the grass collecting to be mulched because it never shut down and at the end, the battery was at about 1/2 charge instead of blinking red like last time. So I could have easily done a 1/3 acre yard most likely on one charge.

Very happy to be done with the crappy gas engine mower now. hated that thing.

driver100 · July 2023

Black and white signs are the real speed limits, yellow and black signs are cautionary and are not an actual speed limit. They are to warn car drivers you probably should not take the curve at full speed....I also think of them as a good warning for trucks that could easily flip over.....most cars can handle taking a curve faster than the yellow and black sign says.

https://youtu.be/j29__qjzTPo

roadburner · July 2023

jmonroe1 said:

@roadburner said:

Sure- you are doing better than 95% of the so-called "drivers" that I encounter.

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I seem to remember an old rule of thumb on curves where you subtract 10 from the speed limit and double that number. This is usually a safe top speed for an experienced driver but it won’t save you from getting a ticket if caught.

jmonroe

Using that calculation for the ramp I was on means I beat that number by 20 mph. That said, advisory limits are exactly that. I seriously doubt that the police would bother you unless the tires were really squealing and/or you were in Drift Mode.

stickguy · July 2023

signage also needs to be for lowest common denominator vehicle. If 95% of traffic is normal sedans, CUVs, etc. the limit will be based on that. Of course a Z06 or 911 can go a whole lot faster but the sign would be way too crowded if they had to list every kind of vehicle with a different speed.

oldfarmer50 · July 2023

tjc78 said:

@roadburner said:

I hate to break up the culinary discussion with an automotive post, but this morning I was in Louisville for a campaign event so I drove the C43; on the way back to the office I took a familiar on-ramp at double the posted advisory speed. The C43 simply shrugged it off- no tire squeal and very little body roll.

Color me extremely impressed.

I took a 45 posted ramp at 75 today in a Mommy mobile. Does that count for anything 😜😜😜😜😜

I took a 15mph 90 degree curve at 45 with the old Perellis and thought I was going to flip. With the Michelins I probably wouldn’t have noticed I did it.

oldfarmer50 · July 2023

ab348 said:
I remember when I was a kid getting a laugh out of an article about behaviour of male teenagers at the time, one of the things being that some liked to brag about how they seldom drove their parent’s car at less than twice the posted speed limit. Apparently those kids are all grown up now and some even post here. 🙄

You’d have to start a new discussion to list all the stupid things I did in my parents car as a kid. Fortunately, I did most of them on empty roads so I’m still here to tell about them.😫

driver100 · July 2023

I used to drag race in my mother's Hillman, my friend used his mother's Hillman.
Must have got to 60 in about 22 seconds.
Also drove around in 90 degree temperatures with the windows up so people would think we had a/c.

Waiting for plane delayed 90 minutes at Haifax, on the way to London.

explorerx4 · July 2023

This is your trip to Wimbledon to watch tv?

houdini1 · July 2023

abacomike said:
Been catching up on all the posts - but the post that got me "laughing" was driver100's post about what he brings to his service department when the car is being serviced to keep him occupied. Good grief - carrying that much baggage into the waiting room must be a kick to observe.

LOL, he probably looks like "Mr. Bean" unpacking everything and spreading it all out, etc.

carnaught · July 2023

driver100 said:
Black and white signs are the real speed limits, yellow and black signs are cautionary and are not an actual speed limit. They are to warn car drivers you probably should not take the curve at full speed....I also think of them as a good warning for trucks that could easily flip over.....most cars can handle taking a curve faster than the yellow and black sign says.
https://youtu.be/j29__qjzTPo

@driver100, thank you for the trip back down age 16 memory lane 😊.

fintail · July 2023

roadburner said:

tjc78 said:

@roadburner said:

I hate to break up the culinary discussion with an automotive post, but this morning I was in Louisville for a campaign event so I drove the C43; on the way back to the office I took a familiar on-ramp at double the posted advisory speed. The C43 simply shrugged it off- no tire squeal and very little body roll.

Color me extremely impressed.

I took a 45 posted ramp at 75 today in a Mommy mobile. Does that count for anything 😜😜😜😜😜

Sure- you are doing better than 95% of the so-called "drivers" that I encounter.

Yellow signs and many limits in general are absolute lowest common denominator from the malaise era and never updated, or made for a 1952 double decker bus or someone hauling a manufactured home. I've slung the fintail around ramps at 20 over the yellow sign, and it was fine. I think locally most speed limits haven't changed since my grandpa was younger than I am now.

stickguy · July 2023

You can bury the needle on the 85MPH Speedo of a 1980 horizon.

Don’t ask me how I know.

ab348 · July 2023

driver100 said:

Waiting for plane delayed 90 minutes at Haifax, on the way to London.

Are you in Halifax waiting for a plane, or waiting in Toronto for a plane coming from Halifax?

oldfarmer50 · July 2023

stickguy said:
You can bury the needle on the 85MPH Speedo of a 1980 horizon.

Don’t ask me how I know.

On the Dodge Omni twin also.😜

houdini1 · July 2023

I have been reading on line that Toyota has made a huge solid state battery breakthrough. New battery is half the size, weight, and cost of old battery, and will provide around 800 mile range and can be charged in 10 minutes. Little to no fire danger. Will hit the market 2027. If true, that is game over for I.C.E.

carnaught · July 2023

@houdini1, that new battery sounds awesome and should accelerate EV sales if priced reasonably. Good to see you here.

houdini1 · July 2023

carnaught said:
@houdini1, that new battery sounds awesome and should accelerate EV sales if priced reasonably. Good to see you here.

Yeah, I hope it it true.

stickguy · July 2023

same. I have said that before in response to people discounting the future of EVs, largely because of battery related issues. So much research was going on in that area that it seemed a given there would be huge breakthroughs. I think they were looking to make out of sand or something? But if they can combine size/capacity breakthroughs with cheaper, more readily available (and safer) materials, game changer.

Michaell · July 2023

James Bond bought an EV!

IYKYK

explorerx4 · July 2023

Sean Connery is hiding in CO.

fintail · July 2023

stickguy said:
You can bury the needle on the 85MPH Speedo of a 1980 horizon.

Don’t ask me how I know.

I remember my dad doing that in his Horizon when I was a kid I also remember doing that in my mom's Tempo when I was a new driver

fintail · July 2023

houdini1 said:
I have been reading on line that Toyota has made a huge solid state battery breakthrough. New battery is half the size, weight, and cost of old battery, and will provide around 800 mile range and can be charged in 10 minutes. Little to no fire danger. Will hit the market 2027. If true, that is game over for I.C.E.

That'll be what gets me to jump ship. Almost sounds too good to be true.

cdnpinhead · July 2023

houdini1 said:
If true, that is game over for I.C.E.

Let's all hide and watch.

Electrical infrastructure (especially for those who rent), element availability and where they're currently mined (and by whom), among other things, will provide years of entertainment.

Party on!

driver100 · July 2023

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

Waiting for plane delayed 90 minutes at Haifax, on the way to London.
Are you in Halifax waiting for a plane, or waiting in Toronto for a plane coming from Halifax?

We went back home and will sleep in our nice bed tonight.
This was truly the trip from hell.
*Briefly....all on Air Canada - Their motto is "We're Happy if We y can make your Life a Nightmare". It was a 2 hour trip from Toronto to Halifax, that was fine. We got up at 4 a.m. for a 7 a.m. flight.
*Next flight to Heathrow was supposed to depart at 11 a.m.
*It was 2 1/2 hours late in boarding. They claim they had to change 3 tires. I don't believe them, who would decide to change tires when your leaving to Europe with a full plane. I think they said that so it would be a safety issue and they wouldn't have to give refunds.
*We get on the plane, go out to the runway, and sit there for an hour.
*They said there was a sick passenger, and we taxi back to the terminal.
* Takes 1 hour to clean up the mess and get the passenger off the plane...and locate his suitcase and remove it.
* * We find out after the from people who sat near him that he was drunk and 5 of his buddies were drunk and had to be removed from the plane.
* Now we won't land in Heathrow until after 11 so we wait for 30 minutes while they see if they can get permission to land at Heathrow after hours.
* Permission denied.
* They tell us they will have a plane that we can get on at 8 a.m. the next morning.
* The even worse news is there are no hotel rooms available, but the airport is open all night.
* No thanks, I have tried that, we won't sleep and we'll be wasted for 3 days.
* We got on another airline (Porter) and took a 5 p.m. flight home and will be glad to sleep in our nice bed.
* I called the airline and they'll give us a full refund. I think the hotel and other stuff might be covered at least partially, Mrs D100 insured the trip.
* I hate traveling. MrsD says she will go to Florida if I go on vacation trip each year.........this should have been easy.......but what a waste of time and money. Just glad to be home, and play tennis or pickleball tomorrow!

driver100 · July 2023

carnaught said:

driver100 said:
Black and white signs are the real speed limits, yellow and black signs are cautionary and are not an actual speed limit. They are to warn car drivers you probably should not take the curve at full speed....I also think of them as a good warning for trucks that could easily flip over.....most cars can handle taking a curve faster than the yellow and black sign says.
https://youtu.be/j29__qjzTPo
@driver100, thank you for the trip back down age 16 memory lane 😊.

Carnaught, I taught about white and black signs and yellow and black signs to the 16 year olds taking driver education in high school. Thought some people might need a refresher course.

jmonroe1 · July 2023

@driver100 said:
We went back home and will sleep in our nice bed tonight.
This was truly the trip from hell.
*Briefly....all on Air Canada - Their motto is "We're Happy if We y can make your Life a Nightmare". It was a 2 hour trip from Toronto to Halifax, that was fine. We got up at 4 a.m. for a 7 a.m. flight.
*Next flight to Heathrow was supposed to depart at 11 a.m.
*It was 2 1/2 hours late in boarding. They claim they had to change 3 tires. I don't believe them, who would decide to change tires when your leaving to Europe with a full plane. I think they said that so it would be a safety issue and they wouldn't have to give refunds.
*We get on the plane, go out to the runway, and sit there for an hour.
*They said there was a sick passenger, and we taxi back to the terminal.

Takes 1 hour to clean up the mess and get the passenger off the plane...and locate his suitcase and remove it.

We find out after the from people who sat near him that he was drunk and 5 of his buddies were drunk and had to be removed from the plane.

Now we won't land in Heathrow until after 11 so we wait for 30 minutes while they see if they can get permission to land at Heathrow after hours.

Permission denied.

They tell us they will have a plane that we can get on at 8 a.m. the next morning.

The even worse news is there are no hotel rooms available, but the airport is open all night.

No thanks, I have tried that, we won't sleep and we'll be wasted for 3 days.

We got on another airline (Porter) and took a 5 p.m. flight home and will be glad to sleep in our nice bed.

I called the airline and they'll give us a full refund. I think the hotel and other stuff might be covered at least partially, Mrs D100 insured the trip.

I hate traveling. MrsD says she will go to Florida if I go on vacation trip each year.........this should have been easy.......but what a waste of time and money. Just glad to be home, and play tennis or pickleball tomorrow!

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If I read that right you were delayed in Halifax and there were no hotel rooms in Halifax. If that was the case, why didn’t you have @ab348 come and get you and put you up for the night? What do you think poster buddies are for?

jmonroe

roadburner · July 2023

cdnpinhead said:

houdini1 said:
If true, that is game over for I.C.E.
Let's all hide and watch.

Electrical infrastructure (especially for those who rent), element availability and where they're currently mined (and by whom), among other things, will provide years of entertainment.

Party on!

Range and charging time have been two of what I consider to be the three primary roadblocks to widespread EV adoption; the third is an adequate charging infrastructure.

oldfarmer50 · July 2023

fintail said:

stickguy said:
You can bury the needle on the 85MPH Speedo of a 1980 horizon.

Don’t ask me how I know.

I remember my dad doing that in his Horizon when I was a kid I also remember doing that in my mom's Tempo when I was a new driver

I seem to remember the speedometer in my 84’ Corvette only went up to 85 as well.

tjc78 · July 2023

@oldfarmer50 said:
I seem to remember the speedometer in my 84’ Corvette only went up to 85 as well.

Fun fact.. during the 85 mph speedometer days many cars with digital dashboards just flashed “85” when you went over. Not that I’d know anything first hand about it!

houdini1 · July 2023

cdnpinhead said:

houdini1 said:
If true, that is game over for I.C.E.
Let's all hide and watch.

Electrical infrastructure (especially for those who rent), element availability and where they're currently mined (and by whom), among other things, will provide years of entertainment.

Party on!

I thought about that also, enough electricity to go around (and the cost).

imidazol97 · July 2023

houdini1 said:

cdnpinhead said:

houdini1 said:
If true, that is game over for I.C.E.
Let's all hide and watch.

Electrical infrastructure (especially for those who rent), element availability and where they're currently mined (and by whom), among other things, will provide years of entertainment.

Party on!

I thought about that also, enough electricity to go around (and the cost).

Small footprint nuclear power is the answer.

imidazol97 · July 2023

driver100 said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

Waiting for plane delayed 90 minutes at Haifax, on the way to London.
Are you in Halifax waiting for a plane, or waiting in Toronto for a plane coming from Halifax?
We went back home and will sleep in our nice bed tonight.
This was truly the trip from hell.
*Briefly....all on Air Canada - Their motto is "We're Happy if We y can make your Life a Nightmare". It was a 2 hour trip from Toronto to Halifax, that was fine. We got up at 4 a.m. for a 7 a.m. flight.
*Next flight to Heathrow was supposed to depart at 11 a.m.
*It was 2 1/2 hours late in boarding. They claim they had to change 3 tires. I don't believe them, who would decide to change tires when your leaving to Europe with a full plane. I think they said that so it would be a safety issue and they wouldn't have to give refunds.
*We get on the plane, go out to the runway, and sit there for an hour.
*They said there was a sick passenger, and we taxi back to the terminal.
* Takes 1 hour to clean up the mess and get the passenger off the plane...and locate his suitcase and remove it.
* * We find out after the from people who sat near him that he was drunk and 5 of his buddies were drunk and had to be removed from the plane.
* Now we won't land in Heathrow until after 11 so we wait for 30 minutes while they see if they can get permission to land at Heathrow after hours.
* Permission denied.
* They tell us they will have a plane that we can get on at 8 a.m. the next morning.
* The even worse news is there are no hotel rooms available, but the airport is open all night.
* No thanks, I have tried that, we won't sleep and we'll be wasted for 3 days.
* We got on another airline (Porter) and took a 5 p.m. flight home and will be glad to sleep in our nice bed.
* I called the airline and they'll give us a full refund. I think the hotel and other stuff might be covered at least partially, Mrs D100 insured the trip.
* I hate traveling. MrsD says she will go to Florida if I go on vacation trip each year.........this should have been easy.......but what a waste of time and money. Just glad to be home, and play tennis or pickleball tomorrow!

Wow. Just Wow.

driver100 · July 2023

jmonroe1 said:

@driver100 said:

We went back home and will sleep in our nice bed tonight.

This was truly the trip from hell.

*Briefly....all on Air Canada - Their motto is "We're Happy if We y can make your Life a Nightmare". It was a 2 hour trip from Toronto to Halifax, that was fine. We got up at 4 a.m. for a 7 a.m. flight.

*Next flight to Heathrow was supposed to depart at 11 a.m.

*It was 2 1/2 hours late in boarding. They claim they had to change 3 tires. I don't believe them, who would decide to change tires when your leaving to Europe with a full plane. I think they said that so it would be a safety issue and they wouldn't have to give refunds.

*We get on the plane, go out to the runway, and sit there for an hour.

*They said there was a sick passenger, and we taxi back to the terminal.

Takes 1 hour to clean up the mess and get the passenger off the plane...and locate his suitcase and remove it.

We find out after the from people who sat near him that he was drunk and 5 of his buddies were drunk and had to be removed from the plane.

Now we won't land in Heathrow until after 11 so we wait for 30 minutes while they see if they can get permission to land at Heathrow after hours.

Permission denied.

They tell us they will have a plane that we can get on at 8 a.m. the next morning.

The even worse news is there are no hotel rooms available, but the airport is open all night.

No thanks, I have tried that, we won't sleep and we'll be wasted for 3 days.

We got on another airline (Porter) and took a 5 p.m. flight home and will be glad to sleep in our nice bed.

I called the airline and they'll give us a full refund. I think the hotel and other stuff might be covered at least partially, Mrs D100 insured the trip.

I hate traveling. MrsD says she will go to Florida if I go on vacation trip each year.........this should have been easy.......but what a waste of time and money. Just glad to be home, and play tennis or pickleball tomorrow!

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If I read that right you were delayed in Halifax and there were no hotel rooms in Halifax. If that was the case, why didn’t you have @ab348 come and get you and put you up for the night? What do you think poster buddies are for?

jmonroe

That thought didn't cross my mind. I don't have abs phone number and we had to make a decision whether to fly home or try to sleep at the airport.
That would have been fun meeting up with ab.
Now we have to see what refunds we can try to get.

qbrozen · July 2023

houdini1 said:
I have been reading on line that Toyota has made a huge solid state battery breakthrough. New battery is half the size, weight, and cost of old battery, and will provide around 800 mile range and can be charged in 10 minutes. Little to no fire danger. Will hit the market 2027. If true, that is game over for I.C.E.

I'm no engineer, but that sounds like pie in the sky stuff. I can believe all of it except the charging time. That much energy transfer in that amount of time could only be done through multiple inputs (because 1 cable can't handle such a transfer) on a battery that is effectively sectioned. Otherwise, the heat output would result in a meltdown.

imidazol97 · July 2023

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/used-vehicle-prices-drop-by-a-record-for-the-month-of-june-203537445.html

[Deleted User] · July 2023

Does anyone happen to remember the website(s) to decipher VINs off the top of their head? And would it be specific enough to say whether the vehicle should have heated/power folding mirrors?

stickguy · July 2023

imidazol97 said:

houdini1 said:

cdnpinhead said:

houdini1 said:
If true, that is game over for I.C.E.
Let's all hide and watch.

Electrical infrastructure (especially for those who rent), element availability and where they're currently mined (and by whom), among other things, will provide years of entertainment.

Party on!

I thought about that also, enough electricity to go around (and the cost).
Small footprint nuclear power is the answer.

More point of service solar that also puts back into the grid too.

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