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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,149
    qbrozen said:

    @roadburner said:

    I drove the C43 to a Christmas party last night; on Wednesday I will have had the C43 for a year and I'm still extremely happy with it.

    Today we took the Wrangler up to northern KY and it stayed at 75 mph most of the trip. It seems my wife loves it even more than I do. It ran on IC most of the time so a fill-up before we headed home revealed its gas guzzler roots- 31 mpg.

    What?? It has already been a year? Yikes! That went fast!


    Yes- I already had my eye on it; on the night of Saturday 12/17 I saw the price had been cut by several thousand dollars so early on Monday 12/19 I called and put down a deposit. The next day we drove up to Fort Mitchell and picked it up.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,632
    nyccarguy said:

    My son is off from school for 2 weeks. I made an appointment to have the Wrangler's leaky top checked out as well as the USB port in the center console that seems to only work intermittently. While the time I needed to wait for an appointment (3 Weeks) and not offered a loaner on a $60K + vehicle is still disappointing, it couldn't have come at a better time. It has been pouring rain all night. Whomever gets into the Jeep this AM will definitely see where the top leaks from.


    I agree with you on the loaners. I had to push for one the last time mine went in for recall work. It’s a hard one to crack. I don’t think loaners for everyone is the answer but the person dropping off a $90k Wagoneer is going to rightfully expect one.

    2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
    2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,051
    qbrozen said:

    @roadburner said:

    I drove the C43 to a Christmas party last night; on Wednesday I will have had the C43 for a year and I'm still extremely happy with it.

    Today we took the Wrangler up to northern KY and it stayed at 75 mph most of the trip. It seems my wife loves it even more than I do. It ran on IC most of the time so a fill-up before we headed home revealed its gas guzzler roots- 31 mpg.

    What?? It has already been a year? Yikes! That went fast!

    qbrozen said:

    @roadburner said:

    I drove the C43 to a Christmas party last night; on Wednesday I will have had the C43 for a year and I'm still extremely happy with it.

    Today we took the Wrangler up to northern KY and it stayed at 75 mph most of the trip. It seems my wife loves it even more than I do. It ran on IC most of the time so a fill-up before we headed home revealed its gas guzzler roots- 31 mpg.

    What?? It has already been a year? Yikes! That went fast!

    ————————————————
    And it was driven even faster. o:)

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,487
    Maverick's 8-speed transmission dies at 90k:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YueVBNvrQXg&t=150s

    Car Wizard says Hyundai 4-cylinder Sonata engine is not very good. Plus owner abused it by not changing the oil. New engine would be about 10k, including labor, although that's a lot less than an EV battery.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw54i8Ke5TM&t=836s
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 52,903

    Dealers almost never try to fix anything on the tranny now. They seem to be replaced as a full unit no matter piece what fails.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,259
    au1994 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    My son is off from school for 2 weeks. I made an appointment to have the Wrangler's leaky top checked out as well as the USB port in the center console that seems to only work intermittently. While the time I needed to wait for an appointment (3 Weeks) and not offered a loaner on a $60K + vehicle is still disappointing, it couldn't have come at a better time. It has been pouring rain all night. Whomever gets into the Jeep this AM will definitely see where the top leaks from.


    I agree with you on the loaners. I had to push for one the last time mine went in for recall work. It’s a hard one to crack. I don’t think loaners for everyone is the answer but the person dropping off a $90k Wagoneer is going to rightfully expect one.
    Regardless of what the cars are leasing for, there are a lot of them in the $50K plus range. BMW, MB, Lexus, Genesis are all going to offer loaners. It might not be immediately, but maybe they would give you the option of either drop off on a Tuesday or take a loaner on Thursday.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 52,903

    Not a car (but a lot more expensive) the wife and I trespassed in our new house Saturday. All framed up, roofed, doors and windows on (not garage door year) and staircases are in so we went in to check it out. Lots of wood. Very weird trying to envision what a house will look like when there is just studs, no drywall.

    Going to do a tour Friday with the builder to make sure we know how all the changes got incorporated. Much easier to adjust something like the placement of the door to the closet now than it will be after rough ins and drywall happen!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,650
    speaking of owning cars a while, I passed 4 years with the Charger back in September. That moves it into 5th place all time for length of ownership.
    1. '86 alfa spider: ~10 yrs
    2. '14 Town & Country: ~7.5 yrs
    3. '67 Coronet: ~6.5 yrs (and counting)
    4. '98 S70: ~4.5 yrs

    So only about 5 more months before it takes the #4 spot.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 261,355
    1) '82 Accord: 12 years
    2) '06 330Ci: 10 years
    3) '02 CR-V: 6.5 years
    4) '17 X3: 6 yrs, 3 months (wife's car, currently)

    Honorable mention: '92 Acura Legend was in my family for 21 years (my aunt, then me, then my uncle, then my son)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 52,903

    I had a few in the 8 year range. My 2005 accord and 2013 RDX for sure. my Mazda 626 hit at least 7. A couple of minivans got in that range. Unlikely anything will ever crack the top of that list. But the current RDX turns 4 in march so has a chance.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,259
    qbrozen said:

    speaking of owning cars a while, I passed 4 years with the Charger back in September. That moves it into 5th place all time for length of ownership.
    1. '86 alfa spider: ~10 yrs
    2. '14 Town & Country: ~7.5 yrs
    3. '67 Coronet: ~6.5 yrs (and counting)
    4. '98 S70: ~4.5 yrs

    So only about 5 more months before it takes the #4 spot.

    This is impressive considering these cars' reputations for reliability and the fact that you are 6'5".

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,134
    Perhaps surprisingly, at ~7.25 years, my '13 Jag XF was my longest resident.
    That's 60 in breld years!

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 52,903

    Am interesting deal, well below the 1% target. If you want an electric Lexus. Can think of worse winter beaters!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,742

    The Mazda6 was the longest at about 5.5 years but the Prelude will breach that in March.

    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Honda Passport Sport - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 261,355
    au1994 said:

    Done and dusted. 2024 Q5 Premium Plus 45 in Daytona Gray over Atlas Beige. Really pretty CUV. Good tech and with the 261hp turbo 4, it moved along nicely.

    Leased deal was pretty good. He knocked over 6k off of sticker and there was $2500 in cash.

    23s had better lease cash but they were few and far between on the ground.

    Congrats!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 52,903
    sounds nice. good luck with it.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,720
    Congrats, @au1994 !

    Man I love the last minute influx of buys at the end of the year. Almost makes me want to go shopping.
    2024 Subaru WRX, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,448
    au1994 said:

    Done and dusted. 2024 Q5 Premium Plus 45 in Daytona Gray over Atlas Beige. Really pretty CUV. Good tech and with the 261hp turbo 4, it moved along nicely.

    Leased deal was pretty good. He knocked over 6k off of sticker and there was $2500 in cash.

    23s had better lease cash but they were few and far between on the ground.

    We really like our 16 Q5, my wife’s favorite of any she’s had. Enjoy!

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,608
    breld said:

    I am choosing to not participate in this length of ownership game. No need to be shamed. :)

    Me too
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,650

    @breld said:
    I am choosing to not participate in this length of ownership game. No need to be shamed. :)

    Oh, I’m definitely not putting up the shortest. I’ll stick with those longest 5 out of the 74.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,650

    @nyccarguy said:
    This is impressive considering these cars' reputations for reliability and the fact that you are 6'5".

    To be fair, it only gained a few thousand miles in 10 yrs, and 2950 of those with the top down.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,489
    breld said:

    Must have been a nice weekend across the country to take out the fun cars. I took the Corvette out Saturday to go run an errand. I really like the fact that it is so enjoyable to drive even when just running around in normal conditions. Lots of character in that car.

    Five weeks and counting...and I am still loving it! :p

    While not a record, that's still a good sign it will survive the winter, at least! :p
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,489
    breld said:

    I am choosing to not participate in this length of ownership game. No need to be shamed. :)

    Whoops! Unintended coincidence, I promise! :smile:

    My top spot goes to my '69 Ford Econoline E100 at a solid thirty years in my possession. The '69 C20 isn't too far behind (just the span of Q's #5).
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,489
    stickguy said:

    Am interesting deal, well below the 1% target. If you want an electric Lexus. Can think of worse winter beaters!

    While that really is a good deal, it still seems like a lot on the monthly, to me! :o
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,051
    I had an ‘80 Park Ave that I kept until ‘97 with around 115K miles on it. I had that car Ziebarted and touched up at least 5 times. When I moved to SC in ‘92 I stopped doing that. So, the body was perfect.

    Before I moved back to the Burgh from SC I noticed the tranny was starting to slip. I wanted to put a rebuilt tranny in it which would have only set me back about 350 bucks. Mrs. j just got tired of looking at it and wanted me to sell it. So, I caved.

    I sold it to a guy that had a BHPH lot for 900 bucks. He showed up with his tow truck, listened to it then drove it around the block. He said he was going to put a rebuilt tranny in it for about $350, wash it, put it on his lot and wouldn’t take a penny less than $2,300 for it.

    As he was getting ready to hook it I said to Mrs. j something like, “see, I told you for $350 I could drive that thing for at least 5 more years”. She said to the guy, “please hurry up and take it, he’ll get over it when he doesn’t see it any more”. WRONG, I still like that car. Probably the best car I ever had.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,051
    au1994 said:

    Done and dusted. 2024 Q5 Premium Plus 45 in Daytona Gray over Atlas Beige. Really pretty CUV. Good tech and with the 261hp turbo 4, it moved along nicely.

    Leased deal was pretty good. He knocked over 6k off of sticker and there was $2500 in cash.

    23s had better lease cash but they were few and far between on the ground.

    ————————————————
    Good luck with it. How about a pic or two.

    Something tells me they called it Daytona Gray and not Old Man’s Gray because that could have killed some sales.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,051

    Congrats, @au1994 !

    Man I love the last minute influx of buys at the end of the year. Almost makes me want to go shopping.

    ————————————————
    Sounds like a threat.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,178
    With the cooler temps, been using the sunroof more which I love. Have to look to see if the Kona has one but sure it does. No matter, she'll never use it unless I insist that she makes sure it works. Still haven't driven it except that first night. She'll be gone for a few days Friday but doubt I'll use it.

    Asked for volunteers to work the weekend so I said sure for Sunday and said I'd do Saturday if they really needed a body since it might be pushing things health wise. Luckily it won't be for the whole day so will be easier. Since I work Monday's, the next two are holidays and not sure if we're going to use Wednesday as the make-up day. When I asked about a week ago, seemed like it was a go but now, not so sure. Have no issue staying home but if needed and I've got no other plans, happy to work. Usually use Thursdays as the day to get house stuff done but sometimes Wednesday's also.

    2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,149
    edited December 2023
    1. 1995 318ti Club Sport- 28 years
    2. 1999 Wrangler- 21 years
    3. 1974 Monte Carlo- 15 years
    4. 2007 Mazdaspeed 3- 8 years
    5. 1973 Bavaria- 7 years

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,742

    Beautiful color combo, congrats!

    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Honda Passport Sport - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,487
    edited December 2023
    Congratulations! Beautiful interior. Bet it's fun to drive too.

    It sounds like you were able to get a good deal during that classic good deal month of December, but during which is hasn't really been possible to get good deals for the previous few years. If you feel like sharing any numbers, such as how much off of msrp, we'd be interested.
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,259
    @au1994 - sharp Q5! Congrats! Nice color combo! Love the way those sport seats look!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 23,986
    edited December 2023
    benjaminh said:

    Maverick's 8-speed transmission dies at 90k:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YueVBNvrQXg&t=150s

    Car Wizard says Hyundai 4-cylinder Sonata engine is not very good. Plus owner abused it by not changing the oil. New engine would be about 10k, including labor, although that's a lot less than an EV battery.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw54i8Ke5TM&t=836s

    I didn’t know Ford had an 8 speed. The two Fords in my family are both 6 speed. There’s a newer 10 speed I’m aware of. I wonder if this is a new unit just for the Maverick. BTW, that white Fusion is a dead ringer for my son’s.

    I heard that the Hyundai-Kia 2.4 as well as the 2.0 (which I have in my car) are very susceptible to less than meticulous oil changes. To be fair though, most modern engines won’t take poor maintenance like in the old days. Kia sent an advisory to reduce OCIs to 3750 miles due to this. I’ve been changing mine at 5k but I’m thinking of changing that as I hear more stories like this.

    Hyundai-Kia are cheaply made cars designed to meet a price point and that’s why they sell so many. By the time mine mine reaches 116k miles I’m pretty sure oil changes won’t be my concern.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,487
    au1994 said:



    It was 56,190 of the sticker and he came off 6k plus there was a 2500 incentive. Pretty good for what we’ve seen in the past few years.

    Wow! That's an awesome deal.
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 23,986
    qbrozen said:

    speaking of owning cars a while, I passed 4 years with the Charger back in September. That moves it into 5th place all time for length of ownership.
    1. '86 alfa spider: ~10 yrs
    2. '14 Town & Country: ~7.5 yrs
    3. '67 Coronet: ~6.5 yrs (and counting)
    4. '98 S70: ~4.5 yrs

    So only about 5 more months before it takes the #4 spot.

    I tend to keep my cars a long time.

    1. Mustang - 9 years
    2. Cargo van - 8 years
    3. Sebring convertible - 6 years
    4. Kia - 5 years

    I have to get busy and buy something.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 23,986
    au1994 said:

    Done and dusted. 2024 Q5 Premium Plus 45 in Daytona Gray over Atlas Beige. Really pretty CUV. Good tech and with the 261hp turbo 4, it moved along nicely.

    Leased deal was pretty good. He knocked over 6k off of sticker and there was $2500 in cash.

    23s had better lease cash but they were few and far between on the ground.

    Someone told me that VW is planning on doing away with the Audi brand. Anything to that?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 261,355

    au1994 said:

    Done and dusted. 2024 Q5 Premium Plus 45 in Daytona Gray over Atlas Beige. Really pretty CUV. Good tech and with the 261hp turbo 4, it moved along nicely.

    Leased deal was pretty good. He knocked over 6k off of sticker and there was $2500 in cash.

    23s had better lease cash but they were few and far between on the ground.

    Someone told me that VW is planning on doing away with the Audi brand. Anything to that?
    Nope

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,149
    edited December 2023
    au1994 said:

    Saturday was the day of the hunt. We looked at a lot online but went out to see the Q5, RDX, QX50/55 and X3.

    Q5 was the first drive and our guy respected that it was just that. No pressure to come inside, meet my manager etc. Infiniti didn’t even progress to a drive. I liked the RDX. It was a white over chocolate brown but it just didn’t do it for her. Acura, as always, is the perfect blend of performance, luxury and value. Next was BMW. Spent a lot of time there as we are big fans. X3 is nice, probably not as peppy as the Q5 unless you got into the model with the 6. Out of several on the lot, no X3 had exactly the color and option combo she was looking for. She was also turned off by having to speak to the manager before leaving. Just didn't sit well with her.

    So it came down the the incentives, willingness to deal and color/option combo being available on the Q5. Process was easy, he came back within 50 of my number on first pencil so we got there quickly. Finance process was slow but there was a power blip that played havoc with the computers.

    Everyone is happy although I did squash a last minute request to look at Macans! :#

    Very nice! At my BMW center we were low-key as well, especially to folks who were just starting to shop. I had several people come back and buy/lease from my center because we didn't push to close a deal.

    As for the "meet the manager" Kabuki theater, that stunt lost a Nissan dealer a sale back in 2005. My wife really liked the Xterra but it was the first place we stopped and the manager put on a full-court press ands tried to talk me out of selling my E39 myself(I still sold it myself- for double what CarMax offered).

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,047


    I heard that the Hyundai-Kia 2.4 as well as the 2.0 (which I have in my car) are very susceptible to less than meticulous oil changes. To be fair though, most modern engines won’t take poor maintenance like in the old days. Kia sent an advisory to reduce OCIs to 3750 miles due to this. I’ve been changing mine at 5k but I’m thinking of changing that as I hear more stories like this.

    Hyundai-Kia are cheaply made cars designed to meet a price point and that’s why they sell so many. By the time mine mine reaches 116k miles I’m pretty sure oil changes won’t be my concern.

    Keep in mind that the H-K 4-bangers suffered from the "metal shavings left in the engine" QC problem from new which caused many of them to grenade prematurely and up here led to a recall IIRC.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,875
    @au1994 - congrats on the Q5. The sport seats are a great upgrade (warm weather package, right?). Definitely love the color combo.

    My brother has also been flirting with a new Q5. He has a 2014 Q5 3.0T that has served him well, so he’s thinking of simply replacing it with a new one (though you can’t get the 3.0T anymore without going all in on the SQ5). He is seeing similar discounts around here that make the Audi an awesome buy.

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,632

    au1994 said:

    Done and dusted. 2024 Q5 Premium Plus 45 in Daytona Gray over Atlas Beige. Really pretty CUV. Good tech and with the 261hp turbo 4, it moved along nicely.

    Leased deal was pretty good. He knocked over 6k off of sticker and there was $2500 in cash.

    23s had better lease cash but they were few and far between on the ground.

    Someone told me that VW is planning on doing away with the Audi brand. Anything to that?
    I can’t imagine how that would work. Audi is their direct competitor with BMW etc. they would have to take BMW waaaay up market to do that.

    2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
    2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,632
    @breld …yes warm weather package. Initial drives are getting rave reviews from the hindquarters.

    2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
    2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,142


    Yes- I already had my eye on it; over the weekend I saw the price had been cut by several thousand dollars so I called and put down a deposit on 12/19 and on 12/20 we drove up to Fort Mitchell and picked it up.

    au1994 said:

    Saturday was the day of the hunt. We looked at a lot online but went out to see the Q5, RDX, QX50/55 and X3.

    Q5 was the first drive and our guy respected that it was just that. No pressure to come inside, meet my manager etc. Infiniti didn’t even progress to a drive. I liked the RDX. It was a white over chocolate brown but it just didn’t do it for her. Acura, as always, is the perfect blend of performance, luxury and value. Next was BMW. Spent a lot of time there as we are big fans. X3 is nice, probably not as peppy as the Q5 unless you got into the model with the 6. Out of several on the lot, no X3 had exactly the color and option combo she was looking for. She was also turned off by having to speak to the manager before leaving. Just didn't sit well with her.

    So it came down the the incentives, willingness to deal and color/option combo being available on the Q5. Process was easy, he came back within 50 of my number on first pencil so we got there quickly. Finance process was slow but there was a power blip that played havoc with the computers.

    Everyone is happy although I did squash a last minute request to look at Macans! :#

    Very nice! At my BMW center we were low-key as well, especially to folks who were just starting to shop. I had several people come back and buy/lease from my center because we didn't push to close a deal.

    As for the "meet the manager" Kabuki theater, that stunt lost a Nissan dealer a sale back in 2005. My wife really liked the Xterra but it was the first place we stopped and the manager put on a full-court press ands tried to talk me out of selling my E39 myself(I still sold it myself- for double what CarMax offered).
    I'm not too swift. Why do they want you to meet the manager?

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

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