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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,911
    benjaminh said:

    Requested: hail damage advice.

    Yesterday a storm came through Louisville and the front windshield of our Outback was hit. The top layer of the sandwiched glass has been broken in this small area seen in the photos below.

    My thought is to either try to sand it out ourselves and hope for the best, or take it to a windshield repair place.

    My wife suggests either going through our State Farm insurance or paying ourselves for it to replaced.

    Any thoughts?




    Glass breakage has zero deductible in KY. It's a comprehensive claim, and doesn't hit your insurance.

    Where does the spot fall on the windshield?

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,254
    ————————————————
    I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the top from the bottom of an English muffin.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565
    jmonroe1 said:

    ————————————————
    I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the top from the bottom of an English muffin.

    jmonroe
    My friend and I have had an argument for about 15 years whether to cut a muffin straight down into two halves (my way) or to cut horizontally below the top (his way).
    I think 2 equal halves because if you are going to toast the muffin, you want it to toast equally.
    Also, if you add butter it will be equally distributed.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,487
    The hail damage is roughly in the middle of the windshield toward the driver's side. We got a $15 repair kit at O'Reilly's and we'll see if that does the trick. Thanks for the info on windshield insurance in KY.
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565
    @benjaminh I hear insurance does pay to replace windshields in Florida.
    Just my worthless opinion but I would call or talk to Safelite. I have been really pleased with them. If it can be filled in they will do it for a little over $100. That will leave a mark, it isn't perfect. If you don't like the result you can apply that cost to the price of a replacement windshield. In my case Safelite would fill out the proper documents and submit them to my insurance company. Windshield replacement should be done by a pro - lots of electronics in windshields these days.
    One friend had his windshield replaced by an indie garage and he found there was distortion....evidently there are cheap windshields being imported by some companies.
    Safelite said you can get windshields filled about 3 times, after that it should be replaced, it is important for the structure of the car.
    ....and that is all I know.....(about windshield holes)

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,733

    @benjaminh said:
    The hail damage is roughly in the middle of the windshield toward the driver's side. We got a $15 repair kit at O'Reilly's and we'll see if that does the trick. Thanks for the info on windshield insurance in KY.

    I would go to a professional shop especially since it is a comprehensive claim with $0 deductible. Then if it can’t be repaired or is repaired and is in your line of view, they can replace the windshield.

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,214
    edited March 16
    kyfdx said:

    Glass breakage has zero deductible in KY. It's a comprehensive claim, and doesn't hit your insurance.

    @kyfdx nailed it. I'm not a big fan of Safelite. If you don't already have a preferred glass shop, I've had really good luck with Rite-Way Auto Glass. They've replaced several windshields for me.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,181
    I had a bullseye like that filled once on my Accord. Took one look at the result and knew it would bother me every time I drove the car so told the glass place to replace it. Same deal, they applied the repair charge to the replacement cost so no risk to me. And in NJ you pay for your own windshields (I have never had one done that insurance paid for. 3 I think, including one on my daughters car).

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,254
    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    ————————————————
    I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the top from the bottom of an English muffin.

    jmonroe
    My friend and I have had an argument for about 15 years whether to cut a muffin straight down into two halves (my way) or to cut horizontally below the top (his way).
    I think 2 equal halves because if you are going to toast the muffin, you want it to toast equally.
    Also, if you add butter it will be equally distributed.
    ————————————————
    FWIW, I’ve only seen an English muffin cut one way, horizontally between the top and the bottom. Like I said before the trick is trying to figure out the top from the bottom but once I solve that, it’s easy peasy. :p

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,181
    the flat side with the speckles is the bottom, the curvy part is the top.

    and that is the only way to cut it. Vertically like a dinner roll makes no sense.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,911
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @benjaminh said:

    The hail damage is roughly in the middle of the windshield toward the driver's side. We got a $15 repair kit at O'Reilly's and we'll see if that does the trick. Thanks for the info on windshield insurance in KY.

    I would go to a professional shop especially since it is a comprehensive claim with $0 deductible. Then if it can’t be repaired or is repaired and is in your line of view, they can replace the windshield.


    What he says.. ^^^^^

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,911
    When you see how they fill and cure the area of the chip at a professional shop, you’ll know why the DIY kit is not going to work.

    Also, if after attempting to fix it yourself, if it then cracks and needs replacement, who knows where the insurance company will assign the blame?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,713

    @stickguy said:
    I had a bullseye like that filled once on my Accord. Took one look at the result and knew it would bother me every time I drove the car so told the glass place to replace it. Same deal, they applied the repair charge to the replacement cost so no risk to me. And in NJ you pay for your own windshields (I have never had one done that insurance paid for. 3 I think, including one on my daughters car).

    You can change your comprehensive deductible in NJ independent of collision deductible. So I carry $100 on comp specifically in case of windshield damage.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,181
    I don't recall what my comp limit was when I was in NJ but I assume $500 or $1000. at least the windshields were pretty cheap. No clue what I have now that I live in NY, and I hope to never find out the hard way!

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,516
    benjaminh said:

    Requested: hail damage advice.

    Yesterday a storm came through Louisville and the front windshield of our Outback was hit. The top layer of the sandwiched glass has been broken in this small area seen in the photos below.

    My thought is to either try to sand it out ourselves and hope for the best, or take it to a windshield repair place.

    My wife suggests either going through our State Farm insurance or paying ourselves for it to replaced.

    Any thoughts?




    Any damage on the rest of the car? That type of glass damage, given the depth of the pock mark probably means replacement.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565
    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    ————————————————
    I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the top from the bottom of an English muffin.

    jmonroe
    My friend and I have had an argument for about 15 years whether to cut a muffin straight down into two halves (my way) or to cut horizontally below the top (his way).
    I think 2 equal halves because if you are going to toast the muffin, you want it to toast equally.
    Also, if you add butter it will be equally distributed.
    ————————————————
    FWIW, I’ve only seen an English muffin cut one way, horizontally between the top and the bottom. Like I said before the trick is trying to figure out the top from the bottom but once I solve that, it’s easy peasy. :p

    jmonroe
    I agree with you about an English muffin...but what about a regular muffin?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565
    benjaminh said:

    The hail damage is roughly in the middle of the windshield toward the driver's side. We got a $15 repair kit at O'Reilly's and we'll see if that does the trick. Thanks for the info on windshield insurance in KY.

    The DIY kit ain't going to fix that bullet hole! :s

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,254
    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    ————————————————
    I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the top from the bottom of an English muffin.

    jmonroe
    My friend and I have had an argument for about 15 years whether to cut a muffin straight down into two halves (my way) or to cut horizontally below the top (his way).
    I think 2 equal halves because if you are going to toast the muffin, you want it to toast equally.
    Also, if you add butter it will be equally distributed.
    ————————————————
    FWIW, I’ve only seen an English muffin cut one way, horizontally between the top and the bottom. Like I said before the trick is trying to figure out the top from the bottom but once I solve that, it’s easy peasy. :p

    jmonroe
    I agree with you about an English muffin...but what about a regular muffin?
    ————————————————
    Do you mean like a blueberry or banana nut muffin etc.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,181
    A muffin with a crown should get cut down the center, top to bottom. Otherwise you end up with a top and a stump.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,214
    Had good luck with the Rain-X repair kit from Walmart on the Prius (bought it with a chip, and didn't have comprehensive or collision).
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,613
    My experience with small windshield "issues" is that they can usually be dealt with by using a proprietary system involving a vacuum device and resin of some sort which is introduced in such a way as it fills the cracks.

    Worked well for me, and seems to work for many/most people. I think the rule is that if the crack (or whatever) can be covered by a banknote it'll work. Insurance companies love it, since it eliminates the need for windshield replacement -- around here they'll cover the cost even if you don't have full (zero deductible) glass coverage.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,181
    they can be filled but you can still see it. not a huge deal if off in a low corner on the passenger side, but anywhere in the driver's line of sight can be very annoying. At least in my experience!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,117
    benjaminh said:

    Requested: hail damage advice.

    Yesterday a storm came through Louisville and the front windshield of our Outback was hit. The top layer of the sandwiched glass has been broken in this small area seen in the photos below.

    My thought is to either try to sand it out ourselves and hope for the best, or take it to a windshield repair place.

    My wife suggests either going through our State Farm insurance or paying ourselves for it to replaced.

    Any thoughts?




    I had a smaller chip in the truck windshield fixed for $125 at a local glass place. Walmart sells a repair kit for under $20 but I’ve had inconsistent luck with self repair. I don’t like to turn minor things into insurance because you’ll pay more in higher rates.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,117
    driver100 said:

    Are you thinking of trading yours in?
    I just noticed, yours is a 2015....it seems that you just got it a year or two ago.
    Our C250 is a 2014 but it was made in 2013. Does that mean it is 11 years old or 12 years old?
    Which sounds better?
    Selling it? I don’t know, I don’t drive it enough to justify the increasing insurance costs. Less than 19k miles after 10 years.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388

    @driver100 said:
    @benjaminh I hear insurance does pay to replace windshields in Florida.
    Just my worthless opinion but I would call or talk to Safelite. I have been really pleased with them. If it can be filled in they will do it for a little over $100. That will leave a mark, it isn't perfect. If you don't like the result you can apply that cost to the price of a replacement windshield. In my case Safelite would fill out the proper documents and submit them to my insurance company. Windshield replacement should be done by a pro - lots of electronics in windshields these days.
    One friend had his windshield replaced by an indie garage and he found there was distortion....evidently there are cheap windshields being imported by some companies.
    Safelite said you can get windshields filled about 3 times, after that it should be replaced, it is important for the structure of the car.
    ....and that is all I know.....(about windshield holes)

    It all depends on which insurance company you are covered by. I live in Florida and had to replace a windshield on my 2017 BMW and my 2018 Mercedes S450 and I had no deductible ($0.00) with Allstate and Liberty Mutual.

    My current carrier is State Farm and my policy specifically states that I have a $500 deductible on windshield glass and a $500 deductible on all other losses.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,192

    My experience with small windshield "issues" is that they can usually be dealt with by using a proprietary system involving a vacuum device and resin of some sort which is introduced in such a way as it fills the cracks.

    I have had that done with varying degrees of success. As stick said, sometimes they are still an annoyance if in the line of sight. Looking at @benjaminh 's photo, I would be dubious even with the vacuum system since it shows cracks radiating out from the center for some distance already. Odds are they will only get worse. I would also advise forgetting about the DIY stuff. That will not work on a thing like that. Take it to an auto glass shop and see what they say.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,911
    edited March 17
    Insurance: @benjaminh is in KY. All comprehensive insurance coverage in KY is $0 deductible for glass breakage, by statute.

    I know it's a picture, but that looks like a major chip to me. I'll guess the windshield is going to be replaced, if the view behind it from the driver's seat is anything but the hood of the car.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,214
    kyfdx said:

    All comprehensive insurance coverage in KY is $0 deductible for glass breakage, by statute.

    My previous carrier contracted out glass claims to Safelite Solutions. It was pretty comical to hear their rep read the standard script about "we'll waive your deductible if you'll let us attempt to repair it first."
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,254

    benjaminh said:

    Requested: hail damage advice.

    Yesterday a storm came through Louisville and the front windshield of our Outback was hit. The top layer of the sandwiched glass has been broken in this small area seen in the photos below.

    My thought is to either try to sand it out ourselves and hope for the best, or take it to a windshield repair place.

    My wife suggests either going through our State Farm insurance or paying ourselves for it to replaced.

    Any thoughts?




    I had a smaller chip in the truck windshield fixed for $125 at a local glass place. Walmart sells a repair kit for under $20 but I’ve had inconsistent luck with self repair. I don’t like to turn minor things into insurance because you’ll pay more in higher rates.
    ————————————————
    If you’ve been with the same insurance company for a given period of time, you might have “first time accident forgiveness”. A lot of insurance companies used to tout that and I know I had it at one time but I doubt that is a thing anymore.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,609
    driver100 said:

    @benjaminh I hear insurance does pay to replace windshields in Florida.
    Just my worthless opinion but I would call or talk to Safelite. I have been really pleased with them. If it can be filled in they will do it for a little over $100. That will leave a mark, it isn't perfect. If you don't like the result you can apply that cost to the price of a replacement windshield. In my case Safelite would fill out the proper documents and submit them to my insurance company. Windshield replacement should be done by a pro - lots of electronics in windshields these days.
    One friend had his windshield replaced by an indie garage and he found there was distortion....evidently there are cheap windshields being imported by some companies.
    Safelite said you can get windshields filled about 3 times, after that it should be replaced, it is important for the structure of the car.
    ....and that is all I know.....(about windshield holes)



    I had the glass on my Q7 repaired twice in the past, as it is very prone to dings, but fairly resistant to cracks! The third time I took it in, I think I had about ten or eleven pocks to fix, and they said that it was probably time to just replace it. Well, that was around $1,300 at that time, and I didn't figure it was bad enough to warrant replacement yet, so I've just let it go since then. Today, it has three cracks that are running, though all in places that don't even come close to the driver's line of sight. So, it has a little time yet (probably next summer - 2026, unless the cracks accelerate).

    But, considering that the car has nearly 155,000 miles and is, shockingly, about 12 years old (on the road), I'd say that original glass held up pretty well! I know better than to think any replacement glass will come anywhere close to that.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,609
    edited March 17
    stickguy said:

    they can be filled but you can still see it. not a huge deal if off in a low corner on the passenger side, but anywhere in the driver's line of sight can be very annoying. At least in my experience!

    I use the at-home kits sometimes (if it is a large pock and is the only one, as usually the majority cost at a shop is for the first one.... additional fills are pennies on the dollar). The one draw back I see is that the spots are much more visible than the shop repairs. They seem to work, but they don't look all that much different than pre-repair. If I had glass damage due to something like a tree falling, I would do a comprehensive claim. For normal rock chip windshield damage, I look at that as normal wear and tear, and I pay for it out of pocket. It would be like requesting the insurance company to replace my tires because they wore down.
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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,487
    edited March 17
    sda said:



    Any damage on the rest of the car? That type of glass damage, given the depth of the pock mark probably means replacement.

    No damage to the rest of the car.

    Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and information!

    We might regret it, but we used the kit from O'Reilley's and it seemed to work well. Spot is pretty much invisible now. But there's a chance we'll regret it. We were in a rush, because the next generation had a long-planned camping trip that they started today and they're borrowing our Outback for it, which also now has a hitch installed for a bike rack. Anyway, they are off on their trip today and we'll see how it goes.

    And probably this was already clear, but the damage didn't go all the way through. It was just the top layer of the windshield that had that little spot. The inside layer of the windshield seemed fine.

    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,609
    edited March 17
    @benjaminh Eh. Yours was pretty much a no-risk approach, as the kit was cheap to buy and easy to use. If it doesn't work, then the other option (replacement) is still on the table.

    Also, I don't know how familiar you are with Subaru hitches/towing, but the cars come with a pre-wired receiving plug for 4-pin wiring harnesses. If you need lights for some reason (either for trailer or for bulky racks/trays), it is a quick plug-and-play process to be ready to go. Kits from places like eTrailer are flawless and inexpensive. Once installed, they just tuck away under the cargo floor.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565
    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    ————————————————
    I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the top from the bottom of an English muffin.

    jmonroe
    My friend and I have had an argument for about 15 years whether to cut a muffin straight down into two halves (my way) or to cut horizontally below the top (his way).
    I think 2 equal halves because if you are going to toast the muffin, you want it to toast equally.
    Also, if you add butter it will be equally distributed.
    ————————————————
    FWIW, I’ve only seen an English muffin cut one way, horizontally between the top and the bottom. Like I said before the trick is trying to figure out the top from the bottom but once I solve that, it’s easy peasy. :p

    jmonroe
    I agree with you about an English muffin...but what about a regular muffin?
    ————————————————
    Do you mean like a blueberry or banana nut muffin etc.

    jmonroe
    Yes.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565

    driver100 said:

    Are you thinking of trading yours in?
    I just noticed, yours is a 2015....it seems that you just got it a year or two ago.
    Our C250 is a 2014 but it was made in 2013. Does that mean it is 11 years old or 12 years old?
    Which sounds better?
    Selling it? I don’t know, I don’t drive it enough to justify the increasing insurance costs. Less than 19k miles after 10 years.
    2000 miles a year....cheaper to take Uber. :p

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388

    @jmonroe1 said:
    ————————————————
    If you’ve been with the same insurance company for a given period of time, you might have “first time accident forgiveness”. A lot of insurance companies used to tout that and I know I had it at one time but I doubt that is a thing anymore.

    jmonroe

    State Farm offers accident forgiveness after 3 years of no claims, accidents or tickets for moving violations.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,612
    Here's how jmonroe1 doubles his money on a flip house. :D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W99gtjewYLc
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,254
    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    ————————————————
    I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the top from the bottom of an English muffin.

    jmonroe
    My friend and I have had an argument for about 15 years whether to cut a muffin straight down into two halves (my way) or to cut horizontally below the top (his way).
    I think 2 equal halves because if you are going to toast the muffin, you want it to toast equally.
    Also, if you add butter it will be equally distributed.
    ————————————————
    FWIW, I’ve only seen an English muffin cut one way, horizontally between the top and the bottom. Like I said before the trick is trying to figure out the top from the bottom but once I solve that, it’s easy peasy. :p

    jmonroe
    I agree with you about an English muffin...but what about a regular muffin?
    ————————————————
    Do you mean like a blueberry or banana nut muffin etc.

    jmonroe
    Yes.
    ————————————————-
    Like @stickguy said, cut it top to bottom so that you have a top and bottom on each half. Only dopes would do it otherwise. FWIW, I take my blueberry muffins straight but I put cream cheese on my banana nut muffins.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,254

    Here's how jmonroe1 doubles his money on a flip house. :D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W99gtjewYLc

    ————————————————
    I never thought of that but if we come across a large piece of junk, I’ll have to keep that in mind.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,609
    Wow! That still left the question of "why" hanging, but certainly somewhat unique! It seems like most old Victorians like that are cut in half... just not literally. They are partitioned up on the inside and turned into 2-4 apartments, then left to rot as the owners collect rent on them until they fall down around the chimney....
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,192
    Nice to see the lovely Paula Ebben is still with WBZ. They have been shedding anchors and correspondents over the last while. She has a great delivery and on-camera presence.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,117
    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    Are you thinking of trading yours in?
    I just noticed, yours is a 2015....it seems that you just got it a year or two ago.
    Our C250 is a 2014 but it was made in 2013. Does that mean it is 11 years old or 12 years old?
    Which sounds better?
    Selling it? I don’t know, I don’t drive it enough to justify the increasing insurance costs. Less than 19k miles after 10 years.
    2000 miles a year....cheaper to take Uber. :p
    Uber won’t get you there at 150mph.😂

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565
    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    ————————————————
    I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the top from the bottom of an English muffin.

    jmonroe
    My friend and I have had an argument for about 15 years whether to cut a muffin straight down into two halves (my way) or to cut horizontally below the top (his way).
    I think 2 equal halves because if you are going to toast the muffin, you want it to toast equally.
    Also, if you add butter it will be equally distributed.
    ————————————————
    FWIW, I’ve only seen an English muffin cut one way, horizontally between the top and the bottom. Like I said before the trick is trying to figure out the top from the bottom but once I solve that, it’s easy peasy. :p

    jmonroe
    I agree with you about an English muffin...but what about a regular muffin?
    ————————————————
    Do you mean like a blueberry or banana nut muffin etc.

    jmonroe
    Yes.
    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

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    I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the top from the bottom of an English muffin.

    jmonroe
    My friend and I have had an argument for about 15 years whether to cut a muffin straight down into two halves (my way) or to cut horizontally below the top (his way).
    I think 2 equal halves because if you are going to toast the muffin, you want it to toast equally.
    Also, if you add butter it will be equally distributed.
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    FWIW, I’ve only seen an English muffin cut one way, horizontally between the top and the bottom. Like I said before the trick is trying to figure out the top from the bottom but once I solve that, it’s easy peasy. :p

    jmonroe
    I agree with you about an English muffin...but what about a regular muffin?
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    Do you mean like a blueberry or banana nut muffin etc.

    jmonroe
    Yes.
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    Like @stickguy said, cut it top to bottom so that you have a top and bottom on each half. Only dopes would do it otherwise. FWIW, I take my blueberry muffins straight but I put cream cheese on my banana nut muffins.

    jmonroe
    Sounds good. I don't think cream cheese would go with blueberries but it would set off the banana nut muffins. I would cut my muffin the same way....vertically and have two equal halves.
    Glad we agreed on these things.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,254
    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

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    I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the top from the bottom of an English muffin.

    jmonroe
    My friend and I have had an argument for about 15 years whether to cut a muffin straight down into two halves (my way) or to cut horizontally below the top (his way).
    I think 2 equal halves because if you are going to toast the muffin, you want it to toast equally.
    Also, if you add butter it will be equally distributed.
    ————————————————
    FWIW, I’ve only seen an English muffin cut one way, horizontally between the top and the bottom. Like I said before the trick is trying to figure out the top from the bottom but once I solve that, it’s easy peasy. :p

    jmonroe
    I agree with you about an English muffin...but what about a regular muffin?
    ————————————————
    Do you mean like a blueberry or banana nut muffin etc.

    jmonroe
    Yes.
    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    ————————————————
    I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure out the top from the bottom of an English muffin.

    jmonroe
    My friend and I have had an argument for about 15 years whether to cut a muffin straight down into two halves (my way) or to cut horizontally below the top (his way).
    I think 2 equal halves because if you are going to toast the muffin, you want it to toast equally.
    Also, if you add butter it will be equally distributed.
    ————————————————
    FWIW, I’ve only seen an English muffin cut one way, horizontally between the top and the bottom. Like I said before the trick is trying to figure out the top from the bottom but once I solve that, it’s easy peasy. :p

    jmonroe
    I agree with you about an English muffin...but what about a regular muffin?
    ————————————————
    Do you mean like a blueberry or banana nut muffin etc.

    jmonroe
    Yes.
    ————————————————-
    Like @stickguy said, cut it top to bottom so that you have a top and bottom on each half. Only dopes would do it otherwise. FWIW, I take my blueberry muffins straight but I put cream cheese on my banana nut muffins.

    jmonroe
    Sounds good. I don't think cream cheese would go with blueberries but it would set off the banana nut muffins. I would cut my muffin the same way....vertically and have two equal halves.
    Glad we agreed on these things.
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    I’m still pinching myself.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,254

    We took the C43 to Charlotte for the weekend to visit our son (and attend the ACC tournament). This is the data from the trip home. Most of the time I was able to cruise at 75-80 mph, but a couple of minor traffic jams cut the average speed down considerably.

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    Car wise that sounds like a wasted trip. B)

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,175

    We took the C43 to Charlotte for the weekend to visit our son (and attend the ACC tournament). This is the data from the trip home. Most of the time I was able to cruise at 75-80 mph, but a couple of minor traffic jams cut the average speed down considerably.

    I like how the car reminds you to keep your hands on the steering wheel.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,413

    Astonishing that a car with the performance that it has achieves very respectable fuel economy.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD, 2025 Toyota Camry SE AWD

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,254
    Michaell said:

    We took the C43 to Charlotte for the weekend to visit our son (and attend the ACC tournament). This is the data from the trip home. Most of the time I was able to cruise at 75-80 mph, but a couple of minor traffic jams cut the average speed down considerably.

    I like how the car reminds you to keep your hands on the steering wheel.
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    I’ve never had a car that knew to do that. I’m glad I knew it.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
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