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oldfarmer50 · September 10

imidazol97 said:
Dealers and high mileage.
Used 1999 Civic at 300,000 miles. 2003 Pontiac at 250,000. EQuinox 2010 250,000 mi.
https://www.troutwineautosales.com/searchused.aspx

Well, at $700 at least the price is right.😆

oldfarmer50 · September 10

benjaminh said:

nyccarguy said:
I've looked at a lot of cars in the $15K and under price point on and off over the last couple of years. What am I missing with this 2014 Toyota Avalon? I appreciate everyone's input. EDIT: I see 3 hits on the autocheck.
After getting burned with some one-owner used cars with maintenance records in the 1990s, I've become an advocate of the reality that in the long-run buying new is often better if it can be afforded. Better not just in terms of time and nerves, but in terms of money. Let me see if I can try to show that in this case...

Edmunds Cost to Own charts only go back to 2019, but a 2019 Avalon is projected to have maintenance and repair costs of about $8,000 over the next five years. If Edmunds did have a chart for a 2014 Avalon the number would probably be at least $10k or so. A 2014 Avalon was rated at 25 mpg combined, and so if driven about 12k a year gas costs over 5 years at 3.50 a gal would be about $8500.

So maintenance/repairs/gas for a 2014 Avalon might be around $16,500 or so for the next five years.

A 2025 Camry LE is thought by Edmunds to have maintenance and repair costs of about $3500 for the next five years. It gets 51 mpg, and so gas costs would be about $4000.

Maintenance/repairs/gas for a 2025 Camry would be around $7500 for the next five years.

A new Camry LE costs about $14k more than that 2014 Avalon, but if you subtract the known savings of $9k from owning a new Camry, the difference in price is really only about $5k over 5 years.

And that $5k, from my pov, might even be wiped out by the resale value of the two cars in 2030? Not sure.

A 2014 Avalon will not have much resale value when it has 200k or so in the year 2030. Maybe $4k or so? Might lose 10k in value by then? Idk. Might even be getting close to going to the junkyard, in which case the owner of the car would need to start all over again on a costly new car search.

But a 2025 Camry LE according to Edmunds will probably be worth something like $19k. It will lose 11k in value, but with luck and maintenance will still be a car with at least five good years years of life left.

Just my 2 cents lol.

Here’s somebody who agrees with you:

https://youtube.com/shorts/7kNfPUjjoDQ?si=6fOi0JMOBDIaSJ1b

roadburner · September 10

From a friend:
"Hey, anybody selling a car, particularly you guys with the fancy cars, I got a secret for you…
Ceramic coating is NOT a selling point.
That you paid $700 for Jimmy at Hot Detailz for $20 worth of fancy wax is not like you had Gandalf the Shiny cast the Eternal Spell of Dentus Repellimus over your car.
Griot’s $22 ceramic coating just won an extensive 8-product shootout against the expensive boutique brands. It’s over - this year’s scam is finished."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwY2xjawMurKxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFzczhjMUdKTVJ5cTFCMzJWAR79SxZ6wZBGbObr9fTNh6ChFWK9gSsdtI1sS-jC6K4JCaTgwAsexNflhoGPTw_aem_gMYdMCkeh7nuYqgGXjveuw&v=VhLTNii5HWg&feature=youtu.be

roadburner · September 10

The Griot's ceramic coating gets my vote as well.

Michaell · September 10

Talked with my sister this morning. The i5 is getting most of the miles, now. Which is probably good, since the XC40 they bought 3 years ago with 15,000 miles on it is now at 70,000 miles. Not good being the only car in the family, that gets driven almost every day for 60-70 miles, plus any road trips that come up.

The i5 gets charged twice a week, at the moment. They were playing around with charging times, as they have solar, but found that charging from midnight to 6am is the cheapest. They both love the car - my sister feels it's a bit big for her (she prefers smaller cars), but is getting used to it.

On another note, I took the daughter's Sportage to the dealer today for its first service visit. The car will be one year old next week and has less than 6000 miles on it. Quote for an oil change and tire rotation was over $180! Thems luxury car prices, if you ask me.

If anyone is looking for me later today, I'll be outside yelling at the clouds.

I'm turning into my dad.

tjc78 · September 10

That’s higher than full synthetic on my 22 Ram that had the Hemi

oldfarmer50 · September 10

“ They were playing around with charging times, as they have solar, but found that charging from midnight to 6am is the cheapest. “

I’m no expert on EVs but charging with solar at night just seems counterproductive.🤣

Michaell · September 10

oldfarmer50 said:
“ They were playing around with charging times, as they have solar, but found that charging from midnight to 6am is the cheapest. “

I’m no expert on EVs but charging with solar at night just seems counterproductive.🤣

Yeah, you think?

I believe the issue is that they don't have any battery storage to handle the excess electricity that is generated from the solar panels. SDG&E charges more for daytime usage, hence the switch to overnight charging.

ab348 · September 10

Michaell said:

On another note, I took the daughter's Sportage to the dealer today for its first service visit. The car will be one year old next week and has less than 6000 miles on it. Quote for an oil change and tire rotation was over $180! Thems luxury car prices, if you ask me.

Oil change alone at the dealer is probably at least $80. Tire rotation seems premature at that mileage.

Question: how do pronounce “Sportage”? Is it “sport-AJJ” or “SPORT-age”? Asking for a friend.

tifighter · September 10

Not quite-

Their website is pretty interesting, and makes a decent argument for owning one here in Switzerland.

explorerx4 · September 10

My F-150 is just under $100 at the dealer for oil change(8 quarts) and tire rotation.
Maybe the altitude makes a difference.

tifighter · September 10

Also-

Michaell · September 10

ab348 said:

Michaell said:

On another note, I took the daughter's Sportage to the dealer today for its first service visit. The car will be one year old next week and has less than 6000 miles on it. Quote for an oil change and tire rotation was over $180! Thems luxury car prices, if you ask me.
Oil change alone at the dealer is probably at least $80. Tire rotation seems premature at that mileage.

Question: how do pronounce “Sportage”? Is it “sport-AJJ” or “SPORT-age”? Asking for a friend.

I've always used the latter pronunciation.

I'm OK with the tire rotation at 6K, to keep them fresh. Remember, she had to replace one a couple of months back. The tires are Goodyear Assurance, and I'll be curious what kind of life they give us.

qbrozen · September 10

@tifighter said:

Not quite-

Their website is pretty interesting, and makes a decent argument for owning one here in Switzerland.

Huh. I think that is the one I was thinking of. I just honestly thought it was Chinese.

suydam · September 10

Michaell said:

stickguy said:
Looks nice. But maybe my cheap-o-meter needs to be recalibrated but 12YO and 115k miles for 15 grand doesn’t seem cheap to me.

It's apparent you haven't been shopping much, lately.

For comparison I got my youngest a used Camry with 90,000 miles for $10k —- back in the day. She’s now graduated, gotten a grad degree, married and has 2 children. Things have really changed in the car shopping world,

suydam · September 10

ab348 said:

Michaell said:

On another note, I took the daughter's Sportage to the dealer today for its first service visit. The car will be one year old next week and has less than 6000 miles on it. Quote for an oil change and tire rotation was over $180! Thems luxury car prices, if you ask me.
Oil change alone at the dealer is probably at least $80. Tire rotation seems premature at that mileage.

Question: how do pronounce “Sportage”? Is it “sport-AJJ” or “SPORT-age”? Asking for a friend.

Are you in Canada or the US? Seems Canadians prefer the French pronunciation while we Americans go with SPORT-age.

sda · September 10

Michaell said:

stickguy said:
Looks nice. But maybe my cheap-o-meter needs to be recalibrated but 12YO and 115k miles for 15 grand doesn’t seem cheap to me.

It's apparent you haven't been shopping much, lately.

That’s why I gave my daughter the Passat. It was worth about that and I couldn’t come close to finding something as nice for that price. Hard to believe it will be a year on September 14 that I bought the Arteon. BTW, my daughter loves the Passat, thankfully. It is in great condition and has 58k.

stickguy · September 10

one good thing about putting on such low miles between oil changes. Can skip the rotations some times.

Benjamin, I am with you at this point. Especially after reading all the used car horror stories. Better to buy something nice, and keep it longer. Just more relaxing if nothing else. Unless you are shopping for fancier luxury stuff that depreciates heavily quickly. Assuming you can find something well kept only a few YO, that is still not super expensive.

in the old days (with kids and expenses) my plan was buy new for the wife (the family truckster), and I would get one about 3 YO and keep it until 6 YO. Worked a few times!

28firefighter · September 10

The GLI is sold. Was made an offer I couldn’t refuse. > @tifighter said:

Also-

Where do I sign?

tifighter · September 10

I can probably fit one in the overhead compartment on the flight back.

oldfarmer50 · September 11

suydam said:

Michaell said:

stickguy said:
Looks nice. But maybe my cheap-o-meter needs to be recalibrated but 12YO and 115k miles for 15 grand doesn’t seem cheap to me.

It's apparent you haven't been shopping much, lately.
For comparison I got my youngest a used Camry with 90,000 miles for $10k —- back in the day. She’s now graduated, gotten a grad degree, married and has 2 children. Things have really changed in the car shopping world,

In 2018 I bought a used convertible with 80k miles for $2,000. Hoopties are now only for the wealthy.😩

stickguy · September 11

The GLI is gone? That was quick. Where did it go? And did the DV stuff get resolved already or did that go by the wayside?

nyccarguy · September 11

@28firefighter - Well played! I know it was quite the ordeal, but I am sure you are glad it is over. Everything happens for a reason. If that guy in the Camaro never hit your GLI, you might not have been looking for your gorgeous 911!

ab348 · September 11

suydam said:

ab348 said:

Michaell said:

On another note, I took the daughter's Sportage to the dealer today for its first service visit. The car will be one year old next week and has less than 6000 miles on it. Quote for an oil change and tire rotation was over $180! Thems luxury car prices, if you ask me.
Oil change alone at the dealer is probably at least $80. Tire rotation seems premature at that mileage.

Question: how do pronounce “Sportage”? Is it “sport-AJJ” or “SPORT-age”? Asking for a friend.
Are you in Canada or the US? Seems Canadians prefer the French pronunciation while we Americans go with SPORT-age.

Yes, I'm in Canada. The reason for asking is that the Motormouth couple out of Vancouver who do car reviews on YT always use both pronunciations and it drives me nuts. Being in a country where there are two official languages, one of them French, there is only one way to pronounce a word like that and I couldn't believe their explanation that US buyers call it "SPORT-age". But I guess it is true.

They also do it with "Mazda" and that I do not get at all.

graphicguy · September 11

roadburner said:
From a friend:
"Hey, anybody selling a car, particularly you guys with the fancy cars, I got a secret for you…
Ceramic coating is NOT a selling point.
That you paid $700 for Jimmy at Hot Detailz for $20 worth of fancy wax is not like you had Gandalf the Shiny cast the Eternal Spell of Dentus Repellimus over your car.
Griot’s $22 ceramic coating just won an extensive 8-product shootout against the expensive boutique brands. It’s over - this year’s scam is finished."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwY2xjawMurKxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFzczhjMUdKTVJ5cTFCMzJWAR79SxZ6wZBGbObr9fTNh6ChFWK9gSsdtI1sS-jC6K4JCaTgwAsexNflhoGPTw_aem_gMYdMCkeh7nuYqgGXjveuw&v=VhLTNii5HWg&feature=youtu.be

I saw that test on YT. I ended up buying the Griots and putting it on my EV6. Don't have pics, but it's durable and it shines. That's all I care about.

suydam · September 11

ab348 said:

suydam said:

ab348 said:

Michaell said:

On another note, I took the daughter's Sportage to the dealer today for its first service visit. The car will be one year old next week and has less than 6000 miles on it. Quote for an oil change and tire rotation was over $180! Thems luxury car prices, if you ask me.
Oil change alone at the dealer is probably at least $80. Tire rotation seems premature at that mileage.

Question: how do pronounce “Sportage”? Is it “sport-AJJ” or “SPORT-age”? Asking for a friend.
Are you in Canada or the US? Seems Canadians prefer the French pronunciation while we Americans go with SPORT-age.
Yes, I'm in Canada. The reason for asking is that the Motormouth couple out of Vancouver who do car reviews on YT always use both pronunciations and it drives me nuts. Being in a country where there are two official languages, one of them French, there is only one way to pronounce a word like that and I couldn't believe their explanation that US buyers call it "SPORT-age". But I guess it is true.

They also do it with "Mazda" and that I do not get at all.

To me, calling it Sport-AJJJE seems comically pretentious for what is a pretty utilitarian vehicle. Like when we say we shop at Tar-JJAY. It’s a silly name anyway as many car names are.

Michaell · September 11

suydam said:

ab348 said:

suydam said:

ab348 said:

Michaell said:

On another note, I took the daughter's Sportage to the dealer today for its first service visit. The car will be one year old next week and has less than 6000 miles on it. Quote for an oil change and tire rotation was over $180! Thems luxury car prices, if you ask me.
Oil change alone at the dealer is probably at least $80. Tire rotation seems premature at that mileage.

Question: how do pronounce “Sportage”? Is it “sport-AJJ” or “SPORT-age”? Asking for a friend.
Are you in Canada or the US? Seems Canadians prefer the French pronunciation while we Americans go with SPORT-age.
Yes, I'm in Canada. The reason for asking is that the Motormouth couple out of Vancouver who do car reviews on YT always use both pronunciations and it drives me nuts. Being in a country where there are two official languages, one of them French, there is only one way to pronounce a word like that and I couldn't believe their explanation that US buyers call it "SPORT-age". But I guess it is true.

They also do it with "Mazda" and that I do not get at all.
To me, calling it Sport-AJJJE seems comically pretentious for what is a pretty utilitarian vehicle. Like when we say we shop at Tar-JJAY. It’s a silly name anyway as many car names are.

Question for the group - do you prefer made up model names or model names (especially for SUVs) of actual places? (Taos, Santa Fe, Tucson, Denali, etc)

roadburner · September 11

Michaell said:

suydam said:

ab348 said:

suydam said:

ab348 said:

Michaell said:

On another note, I took the daughter's Sportage to the dealer today for its first service visit. The car will be one year old next week and has less than 6000 miles on it. Quote for an oil change and tire rotation was over $180! Thems luxury car prices, if you ask me.
Oil change alone at the dealer is probably at least $80. Tire rotation seems premature at that mileage.

Question: how do pronounce “Sportage”? Is it “sport-AJJ” or “SPORT-age”? Asking for a friend.
Are you in Canada or the US? Seems Canadians prefer the French pronunciation while we Americans go with SPORT-age.
Yes, I'm in Canada. The reason for asking is that the Motormouth couple out of Vancouver who do car reviews on YT always use both pronunciations and it drives me nuts. Being in a country where there are two official languages, one of them French, there is only one way to pronounce a word like that and I couldn't believe their explanation that US buyers call it "SPORT-age". But I guess it is true.

They also do it with "Mazda" and that I do not get at all.
To me, calling it Sport-AJJJE seems comically pretentious for what is a pretty utilitarian vehicle. Like when we say we shop at Tar-JJAY. It’s a silly name anyway as many car names are.
Question for the group - do you prefer made up model names or model names (especially for SUVs) of actual places? (Taos, Santa Fe, Tucson, Denali, etc)

With the exception of the Jeep and a few other iconic names (Camaro, Corvette, Mustang, etc.) I prefer letters and/or numbers.

tjc78 · September 11

I prefer model names … non car enthusiasts have no idea what the numbers mean.

If the person isn’t into cars I never say I have an EQE350… I just say “electric Mercedes”

Michaell · September 11

roadburner said:

Michaell said:

suydam said:

ab348 said:

suydam said:

ab348 said:

Michaell said:

On another note, I took the daughter's Sportage to the dealer today for its first service visit. The car will be one year old next week and has less than 6000 miles on it. Quote for an oil change and tire rotation was over $180! Thems luxury car prices, if you ask me.
Oil change alone at the dealer is probably at least $80. Tire rotation seems premature at that mileage.

Question: how do pronounce “Sportage”? Is it “sport-AJJ” or “SPORT-age”? Asking for a friend.
Are you in Canada or the US? Seems Canadians prefer the French pronunciation while we Americans go with SPORT-age.
Yes, I'm in Canada. The reason for asking is that the Motormouth couple out of Vancouver who do car reviews on YT always use both pronunciations and it drives me nuts. Being in a country where there are two official languages, one of them French, there is only one way to pronounce a word like that and I couldn't believe their explanation that US buyers call it "SPORT-age". But I guess it is true.

They also do it with "Mazda" and that I do not get at all.
To me, calling it Sport-AJJJE seems comically pretentious for what is a pretty utilitarian vehicle. Like when we say we shop at Tar-JJAY. It’s a silly name anyway as many car names are.
Question for the group - do you prefer made up model names or model names (especially for SUVs) of actual places? (Taos, Santa Fe, Tucson, Denali, etc)
With the exception of the Jeep and a few other iconic names (Camaro, Corvette, Mustang, etc.) I prefer letters and/or numbers.

Except when the numbers have no real connection to the car.

Back in the day, you knew that the MB 240 had a 2.4L engine, and the 300 had a 3.0L engine.

Now, BMW has the x28i (2, X1, X2) or x30i (3,4,X3), both of which have 2.0L turbo engines.

Infiniti model naming is a mess.

Even Audi had to muck things up by adding some strange engine moniker to their models. Q5? Is that the 40 or 45 engine, sir? Oh, wait, you wanted the 55e?

Lots of fun when you're the guy having to answer lease questions and this information is missing.

au1994 · September 11

Ford Escape rental this week. Not too bad for being a base model. Rode and drove well over some rough construction on I-95. Peppy and a comfortable ride for what it was. Good mileage too and Ford Sync was easy to pair up.

Only downside was luggage space. It was 2 of us with computer bags and roller suitcases and that filled it up.

nyccarguy · September 11

Michaell said:

suydam said:

ab348 said:

suydam said:

ab348 said:

Michaell said:

On another note, I took the daughter's Sportage to the dealer today for its first service visit. The car will be one year old next week and has less than 6000 miles on it. Quote for an oil change and tire rotation was over $180! Thems luxury car prices, if you ask me.
Oil change alone at the dealer is probably at least $80. Tire rotation seems premature at that mileage.

Question: how do pronounce “Sportage”? Is it “sport-AJJ” or “SPORT-age”? Asking for a friend.
Are you in Canada or the US? Seems Canadians prefer the French pronunciation while we Americans go with SPORT-age.
Yes, I'm in Canada. The reason for asking is that the Motormouth couple out of Vancouver who do car reviews on YT always use both pronunciations and it drives me nuts. Being in a country where there are two official languages, one of them French, there is only one way to pronounce a word like that and I couldn't believe their explanation that US buyers call it "SPORT-age". But I guess it is true.

They also do it with "Mazda" and that I do not get at all.
To me, calling it Sport-AJJJE seems comically pretentious for what is a pretty utilitarian vehicle. Like when we say we shop at Tar-JJAY. It’s a silly name anyway as many car names are.
Question for the group - do you prefer made up model names or model names (especially for SUVs) of actual places? (Taos, Santa Fe, Tucson, Denali, etc)

I like model names in general. Bonus points if they mean something or are a reference to a place like Tacoma, Colorado.

28firefighter · September 11

DV and Loss of use is going to end up going to small claims or, at least I need to file to get them to do anything. They’re digging in on their lowball appraisal and won’t honor mine.

Soo, off we go.

nyccarguy · September 11

tjc78 said:
I prefer model names … non car enthusiasts have no idea what the numbers mean.

If the person isn’t into cars I never say I have an EQE350… I just say “electric Mercedes”

Do you (or anybody else) remember before the term SUV was coined and people would refer to their Mercedes ML 320 as a "Mercedes Jeep?" Another thing that used to drive me up a wall would be when people would say their MY 2010 vehicle was an "0 10."

corvette · September 11

Well, that was unexpected... Got a call from the Nissan dealer, apparently the Ariya won't "take" the software update for one of the two recalls. It appears from searching their database that they need to replace the A/V unit, but they're waiting on Nissan to get back to them in regard to the repair.

ab348 · September 11

28firefighter said:
DV and Loss of use is going to end up going to small claims or, at least I need to file to get them to do anything. They’re digging in on their lowball appraisal and won’t honor mine.

Soo, off we go.

Well, since you received an offer and accepted it, doesn’t that set the value? How does that figure fit with their appraisal and what you thought you would get?

clm8 · September 11

On my bike ride today, I came across a 2008 Toyota Solara convertible. I didn’t have a chance to look at in detail, but on a quick look, it appears to be very clean. 98,000 miles, asking $6800. Cloth interior, I assume V6, but I don’t know for sure. Does this seem like a decent deal, if it checks out?

stickguy · September 11

ab348 said:

28firefighter said:
DV and Loss of use is going to end up going to small claims or, at least I need to file to get them to do anything. They’re digging in on their lowball appraisal and won’t honor mine.

Soo, off we go.

Well, since you received an offer and accepted it, doesn’t that set the value? How does that figure fit with their appraisal and what you thought you would get?

I was wondering the same. still have loss of use though. But it does seem like if your appraisal was higher than theirs, but you sold for yours, they have a valid argument to not give you DV.

stickguy · September 11

corvette said:
Well, that was unexpected... Got a call from the Nissan dealer, apparently the Ariya won't "take" the software update for one of the two recalls. It appears from searching their database that they need to replace the A/V unit, but they're waiting on Nissan to get back to them in regard to the repair.

happened to me with my Maverick. Not sure if it was a recall or just to fix something, but there was updated software available for the telematics module. But they could not get it to load, so I ended up with a new module (even though as far as I could tell, the old one worked fine as it was).

28firefighter · September 11

Diminished value and loss of use reports came in just under $10k total. They’re offering less than $5k combined. I’d compromise but they don’t seem to be interested in that.

corvette · September 11

@28firefighter - you probably already know this, but if they're using comps, I'd try to look them up and challenge their legitimacy and explain why your report uses better data. They will likely ignore it at the demand stage, but if it becomes litigated, it looks bad on the insurance company.

explorerx4 · September 11

I want loss of use because I had to buy a 911 to tide me over. HA HA.

corvette · September 11

@kyfdx - you can probably tell us which vintage this is… cool to see it out and about.

oldfarmer50 · September 11

Michaell said:

suydam said:

ab348 said:

suydam said:

ab348 said:

Michaell said:

On another note, I took the daughter's Sportage to the dealer today for its first service visit. The car will be one year old next week and has less than 6000 miles on it. Quote for an oil change and tire rotation was over $180! Thems luxury car prices, if you ask me.
Oil change alone at the dealer is probably at least $80. Tire rotation seems premature at that mileage.

Question: how do pronounce “Sportage”? Is it “sport-AJJ” or “SPORT-age”? Asking for a friend.
Are you in Canada or the US? Seems Canadians prefer the French pronunciation while we Americans go with SPORT-age.
Yes, I'm in Canada. The reason for asking is that the Motormouth couple out of Vancouver who do car reviews on YT always use both pronunciations and it drives me nuts. Being in a country where there are two official languages, one of them French, there is only one way to pronounce a word like that and I couldn't believe their explanation that US buyers call it "SPORT-age". But I guess it is true.

They also do it with "Mazda" and that I do not get at all.
To me, calling it Sport-AJJJE seems comically pretentious for what is a pretty utilitarian vehicle. Like when we say we shop at Tar-JJAY. It’s a silly name anyway as many car names are.
Question for the group - do you prefer made up model names or model names (especially for SUVs) of actual places? (Taos, Santa Fe, Tucson, Denali, etc)

I’d rather have actual names than alphanumeric designations that I can’t keep track of.

explorerx4 · September 11

It's a 964 series. Drove one once, loved the high front fenders with the sloping hood.

oldfarmer50 · September 11

clm8 said:
On my bike ride today, I came across a 2008 Toyota Solara convertible. I didn’t have a chance to look at in detail, but on a quick look, it appears to be very clean. 98,000 miles, asking $6800. Cloth interior, I assume V6, but I don’t know for sure. Does this seem like a decent deal, if it checks out?

I’ve found that nothing is a decent deal these days. I considered a Solara convertible when I was looking for a drop top but they were all too expensive relative to what I ended up buying. Having said that, $6800 today would not be too bad, especially on a Toyota. The one comp I found, a 2008 with the same mileage was $13,500 so your price seems ok.

Remember, the main thing on a convertible is that the top goes up and down. Everything else is secondary.

kyfdx · September 11

corvette said:

@kyfdx - you can probably tell us which vintage this is… cool to see it out and about.

‘86-‘89

I had an ‘84 Targa. The CHMSL is the tip-off to ‘86 minimum

fintail · September 11

I think that Speedster was only sold in the 1989 model year.

28firefighter · September 11

@corvette said:
@28firefighter - you probably already know this, but if they're using comps, I'd try to look them up and challenge their legitimacy and explain why your report uses better data. They will likely ignore it at the demand stage, but if it becomes litigated, it looks bad on the insurance company.

I have all of it in a file. It’s not going to go well for them. I’m not a litigious person and this is a slam dunk 3 ways to Sunday.

Sandman6472 · September 12

When I did my case for DV, it was pretty easy. We asked for $2500 and we agreed upon $2000. Sure, wanted more then the original number, but decided it wasn't worth possibly geeting even less. Good luck with your case.

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