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Sandman6472 · November 12

We do once a year since we don't put that many miles on. I usually do 3K/year while the wife, 6K/year. Since mine is more severe driving, think I'm o k where I'm at. My trips really aren't that long but that's just the way things have worked out these past 5 or so years. Might be taking it up to St. Augustine in December if the kid does buy a house. Wife is going up Monday for 6 days and their going to look & make a decision about her housing. If she does purchase, just means that we're definitely going to move so prudent that I go up and start our search for a new casa. She's concentrating on St. Augustine & South Jacksonville as she now works at a hospital in South Jacksonville. If she decides to rent for one more year, she'll just stay where she is as she's got her dog walkers all set and Stan seems to really like them. Once we do in fact move there, I'll become the new dog walker when she's at work. And in the beginning, we'll be bunking at her place until ours is ready. She's been pushing for us all to live together so that could be what happens. Depending on what kind of houses they find, it could definitely work. Share a kitchen and common area but have a separate in-law suite so we'd all have our privacy. Think that would work the best for Stan, so we shall see what they find. This all just means that I need to ramp up my purging of stuff I no longer need.

roadburner · November 12

@benjaminh said:
These two popular youtube guys, who both have a lot of experience, say that engine oil should be changed at 5k/6 months for non-turbo engines and at around 3k for turbo engines. They talk about this for the first nine minutes of this video. They both admit that oil analysis seems to show that oil is often ok way past their recommendations, but then more or less dismiss that. They say frequent oil changes are not that expensive, which is more or less true, but changing at their intervals does add up over time, and for me more importantly every time I go in for an oil change at my Acura dealer I have to deal with their upsell, and filter out what's needed and what's not. Plus I do think that the Honda/Acura engineers knew what they were doing when they created their maintenance minder system, and even built in a margin or error as seen in the test above where the oil was still good in a Honda Pilot after almost 10,000 miles. The title of this specific video, which is about the unrealistic case of keeping your car for a lifetime, reveals part of how they are looking at this. My Acura is now 7.5 years old and has around 94,000 miles. I'm not sure how long I'll keep it, but there's a good chance I might try for going over 150k...I did change the trans fluid at 50k and plan to do it again the next visit, which is twice as often as Acura recommends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCQY_ci3JZI&t=2269s

Yes- let’s just dismiss any data that contradicts our 50 year old OCI philosophy.
Hacks.

@stickguy said:
From watching a lot of repair videos the big issue seems to be sludge and gunk. Not sure how the correlates to oil analysis. Meaning can it test out ok at high miles intervals but still be causing issues.

Turbos and DI seem to make the issues worse. And it’s a big problem with so many cars having oil based VVT type systems.

What’s the point of UOAs if they don’t detect factors that impact engine longevity?
All I know is that I ran the MS3 to nearly 160k miles with no issues and the X3 past 200k miles with no issues- and in both cases the UOAs were stellar. Then there’s my son’s E90 at 108k miles. It saw a minimum OCI of 15k miles using BMW TPT 5W-30- which according to the YT “experts” should have expired long ago:

jmonroe1 · November 12

roadburner said:

@benjaminh said:

These two popular youtube guys, who both have a lot of experience, say that engine oil should be changed at 5k/6 months for non-turbo engines and at around 3k for turbo engines. They talk about this for the first nine minutes of this video. They both admit that oil analysis seems to show that oil is often ok way past their recommendations, but then more or less dismiss that. They say frequent oil changes are not that expensive, which is more or less true, but changing at their intervals does add up over time, and for me more importantly every time I go in for an oil change at my Acura dealer I have to deal with their upsell, and filter out what's needed and what's not. Plus I do think that the Honda/Acura engineers knew what they were doing when they created their maintenance minder system, and even built in a margin or error as seen in the test above where the oil was still good in a Honda Pilot after almost 10,000 miles. The title of this specific video, which is about the unrealistic case of keeping your car for a lifetime, reveals part of how they are looking at this. My Acura is now 7.5 years old and has around 94,000 miles. I'm not sure how long I'll keep it, but there's a good chance I might try for going over 150k...I did change the trans fluid at 50k and plan to do it again the next visit, which is twice as often as Acura recommends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCQY_ci3JZI&amp;t=2269s

Yes- let’s just dismiss any data that contradicts our 50 year old OCI philosophy.

Hacks.

@stickguy said:

From watching a lot of repair videos the big issue seems to be sludge and gunk. Not sure how the correlates to oil analysis. Meaning can it test out ok at high miles intervals but still be causing issues.

Turbos and DI seem to make the issues worse. And it’s a big problem with so many cars having oil based VVT type systems.

What’s the point of UOAs if they don’t detect factors that impact engine longevity?

All I know is that I ran the MS3 to nearly 160k miles with no issues and the X3 past 200k miles with no issues- and in both cases the UOAs were stellar. Then there’s my son’s E90 at 108k miles. It saw a minimum OCI of 15k miles using BMW TPT 5W-30- which according to the YT “experts” should have expired long ago:

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if I had a vested interest in selling oil, I’d recommend more frequent oil changes too. If your car needs an oil change more frequently than 7,500 miles, you have the wrong car, you’re using the wrong oil, the wrong filter or all three.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 · November 12

benjaminh said:
I recently posted the test below in the Acura thread showing that sometimes 10k oil changes seem to be ok...

There's been debate among some about whether you can trust the Honda/Acura "Oil Life" algorithm. As we know, the system keeps track of rpms, trip length, heat, mileage, etc. in saying whether the oil should still be good. Here's another oil analysis from September of 2025 that says that the Honda/Acura oil life % can be trusted. This guy has a direct-injected (but non-turbo) Honda V-6 in a 2023 Pilot, and he ran the car almost 9900 miles and 7 months until his oil life monitor was at 5%. His oil analysis from Blackstone said his oil was still performing well, and that he might even consider stretching to 11k for the next oil change. The owner of the Pilot said he was just sticking with the oil life monitor's recommendations, but the test confirmed it seems ok (at least for a non-turbo engine) to have confidence in that monitor. He was using Mobile 1. I'm just using the oil from my Acura dealer, but it is still full synthetic. Usually my oil changes are around 7k-9k intervals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P7b7-hIHJA&t=111s

The trouble is that somebody who owns a Kia/Hyundai sees that and decides 11k miles is good for them too.

oldfarmer50 · November 12

jmonroe1 said:

roadburner said:

@benjaminh said:

These two popular youtube guys, who both have a lot of experience, say that engine oil should be changed at 5k/6 months for non-turbo engines and at around 3k for turbo engines. They talk about this for the first nine minutes of this video. They both admit that oil analysis seems to show that oil is often ok way past their recommendations, but then more or less dismiss that. They say frequent oil changes are not that expensive, which is more or less true, but changing at their intervals does add up over time, and for me more importantly every time I go in for an oil change at my Acura dealer I have to deal with their upsell, and filter out what's needed and what's not. Plus I do think that the Honda/Acura engineers knew what they were doing when they created their maintenance minder system, and even built in a margin or error as seen in the test above where the oil was still good in a Honda Pilot after almost 10,000 miles. The title of this specific video, which is about the unrealistic case of keeping your car for a lifetime, reveals part of how they are looking at this. My Acura is now 7.5 years old and has around 94,000 miles. I'm not sure how long I'll keep it, but there's a good chance I might try for going over 150k...I did change the trans fluid at 50k and plan to do it again the next visit, which is twice as often as Acura recommends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCQY_ci3JZI&amp;t=2269s

Yes- let’s just dismiss any data that contradicts our 50 year old OCI philosophy.

Hacks.

@stickguy said:

From watching a lot of repair videos the big issue seems to be sludge and gunk. Not sure how the correlates to oil analysis. Meaning can it test out ok at high miles intervals but still be causing issues.

Turbos and DI seem to make the issues worse. And it’s a big problem with so many cars having oil based VVT type systems.

What’s the point of UOAs if they don’t detect factors that impact engine longevity?

All I know is that I ran the MS3 to nearly 160k miles with no issues and the X3 past 200k miles with no issues- and in both cases the UOAs were stellar. Then there’s my son’s E90 at 108k miles. It saw a minimum OCI of 15k miles using BMW TPT 5W-30- which according to the YT “experts” should have expired long ago:

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if I had a vested interest in selling oil, I’d recommend more frequent oil changes too. If your car needs an oil change more frequently than 7,500 miles, you have the wrong car, you’re using the wrong oil, the wrong filter or all three.

jmonroe

There’s something to say for the peace of mind that more frequent OCI gives you. Yes you can send out for oil analysis instead of changing the oil but I wonder if it wouldn’t be cheaper to just change the oil on a set schedule of 5k miles.

Personally, I’d feel better knowing I did the change rather than staying awake at night wondering is some dreaded wear gremlin was out in the driveway chewing it’s way through my engine.

steine13 · November 12

kyfdx said:
YouTube guys are definitely the guys I'd pick, rather than engineers that actually design the engine manufacturer..

That sounds logical, but let's talk about the "lifetime fluid" automatic transmissions that were peddled some years back, and maybe still are today.

There is significant pressure from the marketing department to advertise low maintenance costs and long intervals. I'm changing my transmission fluid, thank you very much.

The "youtube" part aside, mechanics see the the real-world mayhem that can come from old oil in certain use cases. Manufacturers do all sorts of testing but can't really replicate customers like me who run their engines cold winter after winter because of a short commute. An oil life monitor might catch that, but my 21 Impreza doesn't have one. And it has 6k intervals from the mothership, synthetic.

My 17 Grand Caravan has a 10k OCI but after I learned about valvetrain failure and lifter tick on the Pentastar 3.6, I went to 6k intervals. It's cheap and I do it myself. So far it's been the most reliable car I've ever owned -- at 155k miles.

cheers -mathias

xwesx · November 12

oldfarmer50 said:

There’s something to say for the peace of mind that more frequent OCI gives you. Yes you can send out for oil analysis instead of changing the oil but I wonder if it wouldn’t be cheaper to just change the oil on a set schedule of 5k miles.

Personally, I’d feel better knowing I did the change rather than staying awake at night wondering is some dreaded wear gremlin was out in the driveway chewing it’s way through my engine.

That is not the point of the UOA. I mean, yes, you can zero in on a "correct" interval for your use case, but the peace of mind that the UOA provides is to detect potential problems before they become terminal ones. And, that is true peace of mind .... something that more frequent oil changes cannot provide.

As an example, I would have had no idea that I had a coolant leak issue on my Q7, probably to this day, were it not for UOA. And, at this point, it probably would have been going on long enough to be causing real damage to the engine. As it was, the analysis was able to detect an anomaly basically as soon as it started (within the year, anyway), which meant I had the opportunity to find and address the problem while it was still superficial - no damage done!

I can easily justify the cost of the UOA by *also* running longer intervals, because, for me, UOA is $40 while an oil change is about $60-$100 (depending on the vehicle), but that doesn't mean it is a given or necessary association. Plus, only doing oil changes during AMW is a wonderful quality-of-life improvement over watching the odometer for a specific target and then changing it... likely in the cold, laying on my back on the snowpack....

tifighter · November 12

I guess they do know what they’re doing.

xwesx · November 12

steine13 said:

kyfdx said:
YouTube guys are definitely the guys I'd pick, rather than engineers that actually design the engine manufacturer..
That sounds logical, but let's talk about the "lifetime fluid" automatic transmissions that were peddled some years back, and maybe still are today.

There is significant pressure from the marketing department to advertise low maintenance costs and long intervals. I'm changing my transmission fluid, thank you very much.

The "youtube" part aside, mechanics see the the real-world mayhem that can come from old oil in certain use cases. Manufacturers do all sorts of testing but can't really replicate customers like me who run their engines cold winter after winter because of a short commute. An oil life monitor might catch that, but my 21 Impreza doesn't have one. And it has 6k intervals from the mothership, synthetic.

My 17 Grand Caravan has a 10k OCI but after I learned about valvetrain failure and lifter tick on the Pentastar 3.6, I went to 6k intervals. It's cheap and I do it myself. So far it's been the most reliable car I've ever owned -- at 155k miles.

cheers -mathias

Amen to that! When using the "correct" fluids, a 6k interval is absolutely safe for any vehicle. Period. The end. 10K? Often, but not always. And, if an issue does develop during that timeline that results in the ability to visually detect it, it will take a lot longer with a longer interval.

I like having all of my vehicles on the same interval, so if I were doing it based on distance, I would likely just set a "safe" range for all the vehicles and just do them all at that time; way easier to track!

jmonroe1 · November 12

steine13 said:

kyfdx said:
YouTube guys are definitely the guys I'd pick, rather than engineers that actually design the engine manufacturer..
That sounds logical, but let's talk about the "lifetime fluid" automatic transmissions that were peddled some years back, and maybe still are today.

There is significant pressure from the marketing department to advertise low maintenance costs and long intervals. I'm changing my transmission fluid, thank you very much.

The "youtube" part aside, mechanics see the the real-world mayhem that can come from old oil in certain use cases. Manufacturers do all sorts of testing but can't really replicate customers like me who run their engines cold winter after winter because of a short commute. An oil life monitor might catch that, but my 21 Impreza doesn't have one. And it has 6k intervals from the mothership, synthetic.

My 17 Grand Caravan has a 10k OCI but after I learned about valvetrain failure and lifter tick on the Pentastar 3.6, I went to 6k intervals. It's cheap and I do it myself. So far it's been the most reliable car I've ever owned -- at 155k miles.

cheers -mathias

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I think I told this story before but I’m not sure.

Back in the early 70s, changing your oil at 3K miles was not unheard of. Oil was not what it is today so I followed that guideline religiously. At the time, I was driving a 68 Olds Delta 88 Custom with a 455 CID V8.

I worked with several guys that did their own car maintenance and stuff around the house too. We were young and starting out in our careers and liked to save money by being DIYers. It wasn’t unusual for us to talk on Friday about what we planned to do that weekend. Then talk about how it went on Monday. It just so happened I planned to do an oil change on Saturday and I mentioned that I was a couple hundred miles under 3K miles but I was going to do it anyway. Most of the guys gave me one of those looks and said, “isn’t that a little early even for you”? I agreed but it was going to
be a nice Spring day so I figured why not get an early start on the new season.

So on Saturday morning at about 8;30 I’m getting ready to jump into the stack of pancakes Mrs. j made for me when we hear a knock on the door. We gave each other a surprised look and Mrs. j said she would see who it was. She looks out the living room window, returns and says, “that looks like Ed Wilson, the guy you work with and he has something in his hand”. I’m thinking what could he be doing here, he said he was going to get in an early round of golf before doing some yard work. Anyway, I go to the door and sure enough, it’s Ed and he has a Prestone anti freeze jug in his hand. I said, “what happened, did you spring a leak on your way to the course (he had to pass my house on the way to the golf course) and you want some water”? He replied, “nope, I want your drain oil.” Wise axx.

I don’t know why but I invited him in for a pancake breakfast. I don’t think guys today talk about their weekend plans like we did, especially with WFH being so prevalent today. Yep, those were the good old days.

jmonroe

roadburner · November 12

oldfarmer50 said:

jmonroe1 said:

roadburner said:

@benjaminh said:

These two popular youtube guys, who both have a lot of experience, say that engine oil should be changed at 5k/6 months for non-turbo engines and at around 3k for turbo engines. They talk about this for the first nine minutes of this video. They both admit that oil analysis seems to show that oil is often ok way past their recommendations, but then more or less dismiss that. They say frequent oil changes are not that expensive, which is more or less true, but changing at their intervals does add up over time, and for me more importantly every time I go in for an oil change at my Acura dealer I have to deal with their upsell, and filter out what's needed and what's not. Plus I do think that the Honda/Acura engineers knew what they were doing when they created their maintenance minder system, and even built in a margin or error as seen in the test above where the oil was still good in a Honda Pilot after almost 10,000 miles. The title of this specific video, which is about the unrealistic case of keeping your car for a lifetime, reveals part of how they are looking at this. My Acura is now 7.5 years old and has around 94,000 miles. I'm not sure how long I'll keep it, but there's a good chance I might try for going over 150k...I did change the trans fluid at 50k and plan to do it again the next visit, which is twice as often as Acura recommends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCQY_ci3JZI&amp;t=2269s

Yes- let’s just dismiss any data that contradicts our 50 year old OCI philosophy.

Hacks.

@stickguy said:

From watching a lot of repair videos the big issue seems to be sludge and gunk. Not sure how the correlates to oil analysis. Meaning can it test out ok at high miles intervals but still be causing issues.

Turbos and DI seem to make the issues worse. And it’s a big problem with so many cars having oil based VVT type systems.

What’s the point of UOAs if they don’t detect factors that impact engine longevity?

All I know is that I ran the MS3 to nearly 160k miles with no issues and the X3 past 200k miles with no issues- and in both cases the UOAs were stellar. Then there’s my son’s E90 at 108k miles. It saw a minimum OCI of 15k miles using BMW TPT 5W-30- which according to the YT “experts” should have expired long ago:

——————————————————
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if I had a vested interest in selling oil, I’d recommend more frequent oil changes too. If your car needs an oil change more frequently than 7,500 miles, you have the wrong car, you’re using the wrong oil, the wrong filter or all three.

jmonroe

There’s something to say for the peace of mind that more frequent OCI gives you. Yes you can send out for oil analysis instead of changing the oil but I wonder if it wouldn’t be cheaper to just change the oil on a set schedule of 5k miles.

Personally, I’d feel better knowing I did the change rather than staying awake at night wondering is some dreaded wear gremlin was out in the driveway chewing it’s way through my engine.

I haven't lost a second of sleep- why would I? In 49 years of vehicle ownership I have yet to experience an oil related failure.

xwesx · November 12

tifighter said:
I guess they do know what they’re doing.

Wow! That is impressive.

nyccarguy · November 12

I filled up the Integra for the 1st time today. It averaged 31.3 mpg over its first 330ish miles. The Integra’s quick steering and sharp reflexes continue to impress me. I have noticed the resolution on the backup camera isn’t crystal clear, it looks downright grainy at night. It’s a fun commuter.

corvette · November 12

The backup camera in my Gen2 Prius was my favorite. Great resolution considering its age, and the colors were oversaturated and quite a bit brighter, which is helpful when the lens of the camera is dirty (things look washed out).

nyccarguy · November 12

@tifighter said:
I guess they do know what they’re doing.

That was quick!

28firefighter · November 12

@nyccarguy said:

@tifighter said:
I guess they do know what they’re doing.

That was quick!

That’s what she said.

tifighter · November 12

@28firefighter said:

@nyccarguy said:

@tifighter said:
I guess they do know what they’re doing.

That was quick!

That’s what she said.

Nobody laugh. It only encourages him.

benjaminh · 3:51AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/13/business/luxury-electric-vehicles.html

"The Luxury Electric Vehicle Is in Trouble

By Neal E. Boudette, Nov. 13, 2025

...In October, U.S. electric vehicle sales fell about 33 percent from a year earlier, to 64,500, according to estimates by J.D. Power. Sales of the F-150 Lightning fell 12 percent, to 1,543 vehicles. Acura sold just 25 ZDXs, down from more than 1,200 a year earlier.

“A lot of people thought that the high-end, luxury E.V. segment was going to be sustainable and it would continue to grow,” said Jessica Caldwell, vice president of insights at Edmunds, a market researcher. “But with all the changes that have come to the industry, it’s just not as big as we thought.”

While the $7,500 tax credit was a relatively small discount on luxury cars, it helped automakers come up with lease deals that attracted affluent car buyers. Another factor in leases is the expected value of a vehicle after two or three years on the road. The values of previously leased electric models have been falling, and that has pushed up monthly payments on new leases..."

nyccarguy · 5:27AM

@tifighter

Impressive job by CarMax. A quick almost $8K. Then I'm sure they made money on the financing and sold a warranty too. It is just beyond me that they were able to sell the car for $46,998 and a brand spankin' new one has an MSRP of $47,545.

kyfdx · 5:54AM

CarMax struggling with stock price. Just canned the CEO

ab348 · 5:58AM

Yes, apparently Carvana is eating their lunch.

stickguy · 6:00AM

Anyone know exactly what cargurus does?

andres3 · 7:34AM

kyfdx said:
YouTube guys are definitely the guys I'd pick, rather than engineers that actually design the engine manufacturer..

Problem with manufacturer recommendations is their incentivized to make your car fail 1 mile and 1 day after the warranty expires. I am interested in the OCI's from manufacturers with the longest warranties.

tifighter · 9:42AM

@nyccarguy said:
@tifighter

Impressive job by CarMax. A quick almost $8K. Then I'm sure they made money on the financing and sold a warranty too. It is just beyond me that they were able to sell the car for $46,998 and a brand spankin' new one has an MSRP of $47,545.

That’s if you can find one, much less at sticker. I’m sure there are buyers out there that would prefer to deal with Carmax’s relative transparency. If anything, it’s probably the only time you’ll get to actually test drive one.

xwesx · 9:53AM

Well, that is certainly true for other fluids like transmission, differentials, etc., but OCI is not normally one of them. People with sludge issues are suffering from circulation issues, and that is either a manufacturing defect (rare, but has happened, such as early 00s Toyota) or an ownership issues, because it is not even remotely rare that people let their oil levels run low for extended periods, and that is the fastest way to produce sludge. If folks look at OCI (on a default basis) as being a max number instead of a min number, and keep their oil topped off (max 1 quart/liter low!), they'll never have an engine lubrication issue without other problems present.

explorerx4 · 10:06AM

WIth DI engines, oil dilution from fuel can cause the oil level to increase.

xwesx · 10:17AM

explorerx4 said:
WIth DI engines, oil dilution from fuel can cause the oil level to increase.

Only when the engine doesn't reach full operating temperature between starts. Otherwise, anything that does get into the oil fully evaporates. I notice this on the Crosstrek, though: If I warm up the oil, but don't actually drive it, before doing an oil change, the report will show up to 2% fuel dilution. Not ideal, for sure.

I think what that trend shows is simply that idling isn't good for your car. WHO KNEW?!

stickguy · 10:18AM

Hyundai has a long warranty. And calls for short change intervals. 3,000 or 6
Months severe use and 6,000 or a year normal IIRC from when I owned one.

kyfdx · 10:20AM

stickguy said:
Hyundai has a long warranty. And calls for short change intervals. 3,000 or 6

Months severe use and 6,000 or a year normal IIRC from when I owned one.

Our anecdotal evidence that Hyundai doesn't always pay off on their warranty.

stickguy · 10:24AM

I did not say why they called for it.

nyccarguy · 10:27AM

stickguy said:
Hyundai has a long warranty. And calls for short change intervals. 3,000 or 6

Months severe use and 6,000 or a year normal IIRC from when I owned one.

Just make sure the paperwork is correct

jmonroe1 · 10:43AM

ab348 said:
Yes, apparently Carvana is eating their lunch.

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I agree but I don’t know how they do it.

When I decided to get Mrs. j’s the 2018 Subie Legacy Limited 6 cylinder she has now (bought in 2019 from a very reputable used car lot), that meant her 2012 Subie Legacy Limited 6 cylinder with around 33K miles had to go. The dealer dug in and wouldn’t come off his price which was $500 more than I wanted to pay so I left. Decided to see if Carvana would actually give me just a tick over 2 grand more than the dealer offered. I thought for sure when the guy came to get the car he’d start playing the game and offer me something less. But, he didn’t, he even commented about how nice the car was and seemed to be in a hurry to leave before I changed my mind.

I called the dealer after the check cleared and asked if the car was still available and at the last price he gave me for it but I was no longer interested in trading in the 2012. The salesman I was dealing with was on his day off but another salesman told me the car was still available and at the price I had been given. They started the paperwork work and I told them I’d be in the next day.

I showed up the next day and the first salesman was there and completed the paper work. Just so he knew Carvana beat their price and by a good amount but not to rub it in, I showed him a copy of the check Carvana gave me. He seemed a little surprised and said something like, “I’m not surprised they beat our price because your car was easily worth $500 more than we offered you.” He went on to say that after I left, he had a discussion with his boss (the owner), about giving me the $500 more that I wanted but the boss just dug in and refused to listen to him.

The best part of this is when he went on to say they screwed up and while they made the sale of their car, they lost the chance of selling the 2012 because they could have made a good quick buck doing that. He actually said the boss screwed him out of making an easy sale. Sometimes digging in for the sake of digging in will cost you.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · 10:57AM

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:
Hyundai has a long warranty. And calls for short change intervals. 3,000 or 6

Months severe use and 6,000 or a year normal IIRC from when I owned one.

Our anecdotal evidence that Hyundai doesn't always pay off on their warranty.

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Go ahead, rub it in.

jmonroe

carnaught · 12:03PM

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:
Hyundai has a long warranty. And calls for short change intervals. 3,000 or 6

Months severe use and 6,000 or a year normal IIRC from when I owned one.

Our anecdotal evidence that Hyundai doesn't always pay off on their warranty.

Now, for our 2025 Tucson Hybrid Limited, they say 8000 miles or 1 year for oil changes.

explorerx4 · 12:48PM

Carvana has gotten into the vehicle wholesaling business in addition to retail.

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