Honda Accord Problems 2000-2005

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  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    Turn the car off.
    Push in the select knob located to the right of your odometer.
    While holding in the select knob turn the key to the II position and hold it for 10 seconds.
  • henri27henri27 Member Posts: 4
    I have a '92 Accord with 112k miles. Has run well with no major problems and I've kept up with the recommended maintenance. Two days ago the car started sounding like it had a hole in the muffler. On my way to work today the car was running fine if a bit loud due to the muffler. Suddenly I went from driving 60 mph to having the engine cut out completely. I was able to drift to the side of the road (thankfully) but couldn't restart the car. The car would try to turn over but it couldn't.

    The report from the garage is that they think it needs a new distributor system, a new exhaust system from the catalytic converter on back (but not replacing the catalytic converter) and new wires on the spark plugs since I have the original ones from 1992. Total cost parts & labor around $1,300 (I live near DC).

    The car is only worth about $2,700. Do these repairs sound worth it to you? Is the garage's reasoning sound? I have very little mechanical knowledge so I don't know if a failing distributor system would cause these types of problems or if just replacing the exhaust system would fix everything.

    Any advice you have is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
  • chucko3chucko3 Member Posts: 793
    With only 112k, the car still has a long way to go.
    I would call another shop for another estimate.

    Since the car has the original wires, I would replace the spark plug wires & the coil wire first before replacing the whole distributor. They are cheap and easy to replace.
  • atlantabennyatlantabenny Member Posts: 735
    Muffler, labor = $180
    High-tension wire set, plugs, DIY = $75
    Total = approx. $260

    Exhaust system price reference:
    http://www2.autopartsauthority.com/parts/autopartsauthority/quote- .jsp?year=1992&product=H5000-50508&application=000614703&- amp;part=Muffler&category=H
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    intervals too. That doesn't sound like good maintenance practices to me.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    How can a Firestone product be great? Look at the history of these tires on Fords. I removed Bridgestone tires from my wife's 2004 Honda Civic, as part of the purchase deal. Firestone products are an accident looking for a place to happen! I would not have these tires on one of our cars, even if the manufacturer gave then to me without charge.
  • amstelamstel Member Posts: 8
    Same problem in the 2004LX V4. When compressor running, you can feel the steering wheel vibration. IS this a common problem? or only some of the Accords have this?

    Also the compressor works for every 10 second in a cool day (about 70F), is this normal?

    Thanks.
  • whitecloud1whitecloud1 Member Posts: 268
    If the AC is cycling on/off in quick intervals then something is wrong. I've had that issue with other cars and freon was needed. With a new car you might need to have the dealer check it out.
  • 69mach169mach1 Member Posts: 60
    I too have a 1992 Accord with a 154,000 miles. At about 113,000 miles the distributor had to be replaced due to a faulty shaft bearing in the distributor. This caused the rotor to wobble inside the distributor cap which ultimately broke the plug contacts inside the cap causing a no start condition.

    The Honda dealer told me that it was a poor design and that Honda had a resdesigned replacement distributor at a reduced price. I would suggest you go to your Honda dealer and get a new distributor for your car. As for the plug wires, mine are original.

    My muffler and part of the rear most tail pipe were replaced at about 152,000 miles.

    Hope this helps.
  • cgeorgecgeorge Member Posts: 5
    Hi,

    Do you guys go to a dealer service department for minor services like oil change? Please tell me why, whether you do or not. I used to own a Toyota and always went to the dealer for any kind of services. I cannot say I was very happy with them, but I thought Toyota people know Toyota the best. On the other hand, my husband always goes to Jiffy Lube and places like that and goes to his dealer service department only for a major service. I know it is certainly my call, but I would like to hear how you guys do it.
    Thank you.
  • 03accordman03accordman Member Posts: 671
    Gregoryc, Bridgestones is a Japanese company and the Potenzas and Turanzas are a Bridgestone product, not a firestone product.

    Potenzas are one of the best performance tires in the world, and Ferrari have been winning the World Formula 1 championship for the last 5-6 yrs with Bridgestone Potenzas. There is no form of motorsport that competes with F1 on technology, so if Bridgestone are winning, there muct be something that they are doing right.

    To discount bridgestone tires on account of a particular firestone failing, is a total no-no.
  • henri27henri27 Member Posts: 4
    Thanks for the message. I appreciate the help! Cheers, Henri
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    i thought for sure Bridgestone fell under the Firestone corporate umbrella.

    not that it matters, it bet Firestones are the best and safest tires out there now....have to make up for all the bad press.
  • henri27henri27 Member Posts: 4
    Thanks for the cost estimate and for the link--very helpful! Cheers, Henri
  • henri27henri27 Member Posts: 4
    Your message was very helpful and I'm glad to hear your Accord is still going strong at 154k. I appreciate the tip about the distributor and will call my Honda dealer. Thanks! Henri
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    "i thought for sure Bridgestone fell under the Firestone corporate umbrella."

    Actually, I believe it's the other way around... Bridgestone bought out Firestone a number of years ago (prior to the Explorer debacle, obviously), so Bridgestone is the parent company.

    At any rate, according to JD Powers latest survey of customer satisfaction for replacement tires, Bridgestone is just above industry average and Firestone is equal to industry average, ahead of other major manufacturers like UniRoyal, BF Goodrich and General. So obviously the Firestone brand is improving in quality and reputation as compared to the dark days of the Explorer mess.
  • 69mach169mach1 Member Posts: 60
    Bridgestone is the parent company of Firestone. Bridgestone was in total denial that there was a problem with the Firestone tires on the Explorers, it was all the Explorer's fault, yeah right. There were similar failures on some GM and Subaru vehicles, these vehicles were quietly recalled and the tires replaced. Ford on the other hand, has always had close ties to the Firestone family, so the problem was really brought to focus as Ford equiped the Explorers almost exclusively with Firestone tires.

    Bridgestone has some great tires and is a great company, but their image was tarnished in my mind because of the Firestone / Explorer debacle. Bridgestone should have admitted there was a problem up front and recalled all the Wilderness tires instead of Ford having to do it for them. I think if they were wise, I'd retire the Firestone name entirely.

    When I replaced the tires on my 92 Accord, I avoided Bridgestone, I purchased Yokohamas instead. Just my two cents.
  • rumpletzerrumpletzer Member Posts: 39
    I took my Accord in for it's first oil change this week at the dealership. The first one is free, and I'm between apartments right now and don't have my tools or a place to change my own oil. From now on I do it myself.

    The dealer takes 90 minutes (even with an appointment) to change the oil. It's true that they also wash the car, but 90 minutes is just too long. I also kind of "enjoy" changing my own oil. It's like bonding time with the car.

    It also took the dealership 90 minutes to replace the sunglass holder last month. It seems like too much time for these little things. It's my first new car experience... maybe I'm not patient enough.

    My sisters take their cars to Wal-Mart and Jiffy Lube to have their oil changed. A few years ago Jiffy Lube forgot to replace the cap after filling the oil on my younger sister's new car. She drove like 400 miles before cluing in to either the smoke or smell of burning oil on the exhaust manifold. It was all over the inside of the engine compartment. She had the sound dampening material replaced and the engine compartment cleaned. It cost her a lot. Jiffy Lube refunded the oil change.

    Wal-Mart misthreaded the oil plug on my older sister's drain plug. She noticed it leaking oil onto her driveway. She took it back and they fixed it. I don't know how much of a fit she threw, but they also gave her $500. She's a pretty intimidating woman.

    My plan is to do the little stuff (fluids, oil changes, transmission filter and ATF, rotate tires, tune-ups, brake jobs, etc.) myself. Warranty stuff goes back to Honda. Replacing the transmission when it dies... well, that won't happen because it's a Honda! *grin*
  • axd1axd1 Member Posts: 5
    I own a 01 Accord EX V6 w/ 40k miles. The sunroof makes an annoying squeaky noise. This is the fourth time it has started to get noisy again. In the past I'd take it to the dealer for them to "adjust" and it would be quite for about a year.

    Anyway, the warranty has expired and I was wondering if I could tighten/adjust the sunrof myself? I never got a straight answer from the dealer if they fixed the squeaky sound by lubricating or adjusting? Does anybody know how to cure a squeaky sunroof (I think there may even be a TSB out on this). I recently tried lubricating the rubber gasket around the sunroof w/ silicone spray, however that did not work

    Thanks for any help

    td

      The sunroof starts to get squeaky
  • sockpuppet1969sockpuppet1969 Member Posts: 308
    NOT. Dealers screw up also. My dealer did not tighten the oil drain plug after my 15K service and it leaked oil all over my garage floor (no damage done, I caught it in time). I called them to let them know this the next day and they couldn't care less. From now on a will be taking it to my neighborhood Honda mechanic. Much closer to my house and a lot more conscientious. Also cost $100 less for the 20K service I just had done this week! Dealers are a rip-off!
  • 1997montez341997montez34 Member Posts: 202
    I had a set of Firestone SH30 tires on my old Monte, and they were fantastic tires. I think their issues with Stupid Useless Vehicle tires are long over as well.
  • amstelamstel Member Posts: 8
    similar gas pedal vibration problem in 2004 Accord LX. Anyone knows the cause?
  • bjohnbjohn Member Posts: 1
    Purchased 2004 Accord in March. Right from the start it pulled badly to the right. Dealer replaced the brakes on the right side. Still pulled to the right. Had it in the shop 6 times for front-end alignments. After the 7th time, NOW pulling to the left. Dealer says "it drives comparably to other Hondas". Any ideas or help with this problem? Looking for help and advice.
  • austinman7austinman7 Member Posts: 313
    I bought my '04 LX 4cyl. automatic in January. It's tracked dead straight from the very start. So your car is not driving "comparable to other Hondas" if you're talking about my Honda.

    My only advice would be not to settle for this answer. Your car should be able to track straight. That's what it's designed to do. If it's pulling right or left consistently, that's a defect your warranty should cover, in my opinion. I really don't know the technical things to suggest -- alignments have always solved these problems for my cars in the past.

    I can only offer moral support and sympathy. These things are annoying, especially in a new car. Surely this can be fixed by a competent shop. Good luck.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    Invoke the "lemon law" on this issue. If the dealer cannot align the vehicle so that it will track straight, then there must be some type of "frame damage" in this vehicle that prevents it from being aligned. Since you have brought it back for a total of seven times for this problem, you are in the "driver's seat" on this issue. Get a "lemon law" attorney in your state, and "go for it"! When you purchase a new vehicle always make it a point to drive the vehicle that you are purchasing, not a demo. Sometimes my wife and I drive two or three vehicles until we are comfortable making a selection. Remember, ----it is YOUR money that you are spending. I will bet that if you invoke the lemon law on this issue, the dealer will find a fix for this problem. This is called "motivation"! ----Lots of luck. Keep us informed.
  • 69mach169mach1 Member Posts: 60
    You might have a bad tire(s)that causes the pulling, it happened to me one time. I had that car in the shop on several occassions until some on the ball mechanic suggested changing the tires over from another Accord. Problem solved, got all new tires under warranty.

    I've also seen where the caster adjustment will cause a pull. This happened on to a friends car who, like you, had been to the Honda dealer on several occasions complaining about the car pulling to the right. Once again a sharp mechanic suggested sending the car to a frame alignment shop to have the front end geometry checked. The frame was tweaked to set the caster more positive and the pulling was corrected.

    Best of uck on your dilema.
  • nw1997nw1997 Member Posts: 227
    Austinman7,

        Have you gotten a chance to take your vehicle in for service in regards to that whistling noise that happens around 40 - 50 MPH?

    Thanks
  • smpearsmpear Member Posts: 11
    My new 03ExV6 "drifted" to the right. Not realizing this was under warranty (at least 12k miles), I brought it to Firestone to get a lifetime alighnment. They told me they could not align it without shifting the "subframe". I now understand alignment of the subframe should be done at the factory and is generally a once maybe twice in a lifetime thing under normal conditions.

    I brought it to Honda and they performed the subframe shift and alignment under warranty. Just to check, I later told them to perform an alignment again 3k miles later and it was then only slightly out of alignment with just a mnor adjustment.

    With normal roads being crowned to the right, it is hard to tell what is normal and what is not. In my opinion, a slight drift to the right over say 10 seconds could be fine but a stronger pull is not.

    Good luck.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    For the record, here's Honda's standard for determining if a problem exists:

    Test-drive the vehicle at 55 mph on a road with very
    little crown. Use a stopwatch to determine how long
    the vehicle takes to make a complete lane change.
    • If the vehicle takes 6 seconds or more to change
    lanes, the drift is normal. Return the vehicle to
    the customer, and explain that the drift is normal.
    • If the vehicle takes less than 6 seconds to
    change lanes, go to REPAIR PROCEDURE.
  • austinman7austinman7 Member Posts: 313
    nw1997,

    Nice timing -- I have an appointment for tomorrow for my first service since buying the car in January. I don't drive much -- it's at about 4,100 miles, so I'm going by the six-month limit of the maintenance schedule instead of the 5,000 mile limit.

    I described the whirring noise to them when I made the appointment today. Other than that, it's just routine maintenance. My noise started a month or so ago.

    I see you're tracking the Honda Accord Sedan thread and the post by 03accordman about his failed transmission and his noise that sounds similar to yours and mine.

    I'll post something tomorrow evening after I pick the car up after work, on what they do about my noise.
  • luvmyaccord5spluvmyaccord5sp Member Posts: 61
    I too have the vibration on my 03 inline 4. It only happens when the motor is under load. If the A/C is not on but lets say the fan for the radiator kicks in you would still feel a slight vibration or ruff idle. Under heavy load (A/C) you can really feel it. I have seen the TSB on this problem and it turns out the engine mount needs to be replaced. I will e-mail this to anyone who wants it. I am not sure when I will get in for this repair but I will keep you'all up to date.

    Also it seems to be normal for the compressor to kick in on and off. Based on your fan settings and outside temp the compressor tries to maintain a set temperature but doesn't need to run all the time (kinda like a fridge).
  • nw1997nw1997 Member Posts: 227
    Hey Austinman7,

       As per 03accordman, it seems that the noise was on all the gears and especially when accelerating, no matter what the MPH was it made the whistling/whining noise. I agree our noise seems to be different,like I mentioned it only happens at around 40-50 MPH and when I take my foot off the gas. Please let us know how you make out.

    Thanks
  • lawdawgfllawdawgfl Member Posts: 75
    I finally got my Accord back from the dealer. They had to order a part for the seat that moves under hard breaking. The good news is “so far” the headliner seems to be fixed. I have not noticed any cracking or popping like before. The fix was more double sided tape. They told me there wasn’t enough so they added more. As for the seat moving, they told me they all do it. I have not had a chance to sit in any other ones but they did tighten it up, it doesn’t move as much. If it continues to be a problem I will go to the lot and sit in them all if I have to, just to see if “they all do it”.
  • atlantabennyatlantabenny Member Posts: 735
    I found a PDF compilation of about 25 Technical Service Bulletins ranging from malfunctioning CD changer to streaking wipers (washer tubes degrade and contaminate the washer fluid).

    One important TSB is for the 4 cyl. motor's excessive vibration at idle, which requires free parts (like engine mounts, etc.) replacement in-warranty or off-warranty "goodwill."

    Email me for the link, since it's a competing website. You might need to sign up as a member to access the files, not sure.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    "Email me for the link, since it's a competing website. You might need to sign up as a member to access the files, not sure."

    There's a message from last year that includes the URL to this site:

    speedracer03 Jan 24, 2003 11:40am

    And you do have to sign up to access the TSBs, but it is free.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    Honda's standard is a lot of BS! We have a 2003 Accord and a 2004 Civic and both vehicles track straight. I can't believe that Honda came up with this story for their customers! The issue is simple. The vehicle should not drift!
  • amstelamstel Member Posts: 8
    Thanks, luvmyaccord5sp. If you don't mind, can you email me the TSB that you mentioned about changing the engine mount? my email is zhaox02@hotmail.com.

    Thanks a lot
  • ken972ken972 Member Posts: 162
    I took my car in for the seat shift under hard breaking and they couldnt duplicate it. They just tightened some things down. They said they would order a seat rack if the problem was still around. Is that what they ordered for your car?
  • austinman7austinman7 Member Posts: 313
    nw1997,

    BTW -- I don't recall any posting by you where you took your car in for service regarding this whirring/whining noise at 45 mph we've been discussing. Are you just waiting for a regular service visit before you have this checked out?

    Dropped mine off this morning and will post something when I hear the answer. They may call during the day, or it may be this evening when I pick it up after work. They said because of the nature of this issue, they would have a master technician take the car for a drive.
  • nw1997nw1997 Member Posts: 227
    Austinman7,

         Yes we only have about 3K miles on our Accord and we will probably have our first service done in the middle of the summer. I am hoping that the noise is something simple. Please let us know how you make out.

    Thanks
  • abpelch1abpelch1 Member Posts: 48
    I own an 04 EX sedan with about 8k miles. The other day, about 2 blocks after starting the car, I heard something resembling a loud whining sound while stopping normally for a stop sign. This sound lasted approximately 2-3 seconds, and was followed by about 4 pulses on the brake pedal. The ABS indicator light then came on and stayed lit for the rest of the day, even after restarting the car. The next day the ABS light was off, and has not stayed on since.

    Do you think this was just a slight "hiccup" in the system that has remedied itself, or maybe something I should take to the dealer to investigate? I am assuming this would fall under warranty work & I would not be charged.
  • hondamatichondamatic Member Posts: 26
    Hi,

    I have a 1995 Accord EX with almost 160,000 miles on it. Recently, the radiator developed a small leak on top, near the cap.

    Has anyone tried "Bar's Leaks" (sp?) radiator leak stopper or other brand of fluid poured into the radiator/cooling system to plug small leaks?
    If so, did it work or cause problems with the cooling system?

    If the option is to replace the radiator, one shop priced it at about $400. Of course, this is the more permanent and supposedly more reliable solution. But given the age and mileage of this vehicle, and the possibly I may try to unload it soon, is the cheaper solution of using radiator leak stopping fulid worth considering?

    Also, what are people's experience with STP or other brand of gasoline additives to clean fuel lines / injectors, etc? Do they work, or are there certain brands that should not be used with this car?

    Thanks in advance.
  • whitecloud1whitecloud1 Member Posts: 268
    About the radiator stuff.. probably won't work because of the leak location. A radiator repair shop might give you at least 10000 mi. but probably charge $300. With the gas line stuff I believe that the additive by Chevron, for fuel injectors works, about $6/bottle.
  • 03accordman03accordman Member Posts: 671
    The whistling noise doesn't happen in all gears, only in 5th, and at speeds above 40-50MPH. I will probably get the replacement done next week, and will keep you posted as to what exactly was wrong in with the Tranny.
  • lclalcla Member Posts: 2
    I am new to this site but registered so that I could post a message about my 2003 4-dr Accord LX-automatic. There have been a few times when my brakes have vibrated and made a clicking that I could feel in the pedal when having to stop quickly. Almost as if the car would die, but did not. The car did stop but I'm worried that it might get worse. Also, sometimes the brakes are extremely sensitive and other times not. I have had the car for 9 months and at first thought it was just because the car was new. Of course this has not happened when anyone else has driven the car, so I wanted to see if anyone out there has experienced the same problem.

    Thanks for any help or feedback!
  • browningmbrowningm Member Posts: 6
    The clicking/Vibrating of the brake when stopping harder than normal is the ABS system kicking in. The car rapidly pumps the brakes for you to keep as much control as possible should you start to slide at all. You will feel this from time to time, and is not something to worry about.
  • lclalcla Member Posts: 2
    Thanks! That is good news. I appreciate your feedback.
  • chucko3chucko3 Member Posts: 793
    Don't use the leak stopper. It may harm your water pump.

    I use Chevron fuel injector for my 89 Accord. The car gets a better gas milage since I started using it this year. It took a few bottles before you notice the difference. Costco sells a 4 bottle pack for $9.98.
  • snakehairsnakehair Member Posts: 120
    Yes, I had the whole seat frame replaced by the dealer. The tech was able to duplicate my problem every time after I rode with him to set up conditions. I practised myself to pin down just how and when it happened and passed that info on to the tech while he was driving the car. No arguements from him or the dealer. My dealer is slow to recognize problems, but it is my car and I try and be as explicit as possible. So far all my complaints have been acknowledged and fixed.
  • ken972ken972 Member Posts: 162
    Cool, thanks for your help. Ive practiced replicating the seat shift so I can show them next time if need be. Im glad there is a fix for it.
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