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i will prob drive 15k the 1st year but then i start my medical residency and i will be way to busy for any road trips for at least the next few years.
what's the lease start up costs?
i was told the only thing i need to do is put my car down. I was given an offer of 2750 for it which is way more than its worth. I assume they did that instead of other deals (rebates etc)
Thanx for the input
Here are a few facts....
The Celica has more interior room than the GSR.
1.3 cu. ft. more passenger volume
1.4 in. more legroom
1.0 in. more hip room
.9 in. more front shoulder room
and finally 3.6 cu. ft. more trunk room.
According to a recent Road&Track magazine test, the Celica is 0-60 is 6.8, the GSR 7.2
60-0 braking the Celica 130 ft. GSR 137 ft.
Lateral G Celica .86 GSR .80
Slalom Celica 63.6 MPH GSR 62.0 MPH
The Celica has 10 more horse and 2 more torque.
My GTS has fog lights, amplifier, rear heat ducts (under front seat), 2 more speakers than GT, leather wrapped steering wheel...
The stereo JAMS!!!
I can shift with the steering wheel buttons if I want...
And best of all it's a TOYOTA!!!
And can you believe the 16" wheel option was only
$60 retail... duh... easy decision there...
Y2K Styling AND performance...
I got the technical data from a TOYOTA brochure called Edge. (From local dealer)
It compares the TOYOTA to the GSR, the Eclipse, and the Cougar...
I'm sure the GSR was better in some things, but THAT wouldn't be found in this particular publication...
Hope this helps...
Does any one know the gear ratios for the automatic GT-S and the GT, because my girl friend wants a GT-S but she can't drive stick and I want to compare them to see which would be better for her. And some 0-60 times would be nice too. Thanks
P.S. That guy who got his GT-S Sportshift for 22,000 got a really good deal!
Step one: practice getting the car moving WITHOUT EVER TOUCHING THE GAS. Go from the clutch fully in to fully out in 1st gear. This teaches the beginner where the clutch engagement point is and what it feels like. It may get boring but if they do it for 15-20 minutes, the rest of this will go real easy. They can also practice feathering the clutch which will come in handy latter when they are learning how to start on a hill. After they are comfortable with clutch engagement then...
Step two: practice the coordination between clutch and gas. If the driver has step one down pat, this will be easy since the only thing you're adding is a little gas.
I found out the hard way that its pretty difficult if you try to teach the whole gas-clutch-shift thing at once. Get them used to where the engagement point is and how it works though and the rest is very easy.
If you feel good with the deal - payment, mileage per year, they go for it.
P.S. Make sure it is a closed end lease with a guaranteed residual value.
Type 'R' vs. GTS - I drive a GTS 6-speed. I haven't seen a direct test comparison between the two but I would expect the GTS to get its clock cleaned. The Type 'R' is much closer to a real track car that is civilized (to a point) for the street. I would expect the 1/4 to be pretty close but would think the R would walk away on a road course (under the hands of a competent enough driver). As I understand it though, you've got to be pretty good to get all the R has to offer.
and choose 'Celica News' there are a couple good pictures of it. Don't know if or when it will be available.
My likes and dislikes listed below:
Likes:
Quality
Handling
Braking
Stereo- standard one
Ergonomics and front seat room - and I'm 6'5"
Hatch and room for luggage
Paint quality
Seats
Headlight brightness and pattern
Dislikes:
Poor low end torque
Possibly poor wearing seat coverings
Speedometer reads 10 - 15 mph fast - anyone else with this??
Buzziness at highway speeds
In my opinion the best combination for this car is the GT with the 6 speed manual - sadly you can only get it in England.Nothing has gone wrong so far. I describe it as a Lotus that doesnt break.Any one want more info on my 8000mile history just ask. Good luck!!!
My speedometer is perfect, not more than .5 off.
I have 2K on GT, and 50+K on Marquis. No problems with any of those so far.
is killing me!!! i wanna play!!!!!!
You also mentioned hills on the road. This will also decrease gas mileage (you said it yourself that the transmission was hunting- bad for mileage).
Did you ever wonder how the new Camaro and Firebird got such good mileage as on the sticker? Very controlled driving, controlled to the point where the first to third lock-out was active.
Also, these hills are in fact in Iowa, so it is hard to find better place for mpg. The hunting cruise control is simply bad Toyota design. I have driven several japaniese cars and they all had bad cruise (if compared to american).
I am pretty satisfied with 34-35 mpg. If you look into specs they say "up to 40" to make better impression. Also 27 for city is actually for mixed driving, they somewhere say that depending on conditions it varies 22-29 or something, I am getting lower end so Toyota is safe.
I had two Fords before and they both did as in specs or slightly better. Toyota's specs look better than reality. I think this is what makes them so economical.
Just for comparison, for my two cars:
Celica, 140 hp, 2500 lb, 1.8L --> 34 mpg
GrandMarquise,200 hp, 4000 lb, 4.6L --> 26 mpg
This is why I thought that Celica, being so light, could do better.
BTW, my GTS with the 6-speed has a much smoother and more consistant cruise than my old 5.0 mustang; that car had an annoying tendency to have the speed creep up over long distances; I was constantly adjusting the cruise. Maybe this is another reason why a manual makes more sense for a small displacement engine.
Mileage - 34 highway sounds about right. I read somewhere that the EPA "highway" number assumes a constant speed of between 45-50mph. City driving: depends on how much time is spent in gridlock. Constantly stopping/starting will kill the mileage; much more so in a small displacement engine. Why? Because small I4's make all their rated power and torque in the upper rpm range; in gridlock, the motor is operating at a much lower range, less efficient range and so has to work harder. A larger V8, even the 4.6, makes a larger % of its torque at low speeds, right where its needed in rushhour traffic. You must have a light touch with your Grand Marquis - 26 seems pretty good. About the best I ever got was 23 out of my Mustang (but then I just couldn't keep my foot out of the loud pedal...8^)
I did however find the engine noise to be quite buzzy inside the cabin. I think they could dampen some of it out without drivers missing the racy feel. Also, I found shifting into sixth gear to be notchy at times. Could be I am just not used to shifting to a 6th gear. Head lights were extremely bright, probably the best I have ever driven behind. Loved the Aluminum racing pedals! Great touch Toyota! Sorry nothing to post on handling, no roads i knew that were curvy enough to risk rolling a brand new car off an embankment. Did get to 90-95mph real quick though. Wish I didn't need a truck as my primary vehicle cause this would definitely be a top 3 choice in my book. Happy red-lining all you Celica owners!
http://www.geocities.com/newcelica2000
http://www.newcelica.org
http://www.trdusa.com
You should be able to find a lot of info on the sites. Jason's page also has pictures of a concept convertible and a 500 hp AWD Celica to come as well. HOT!!!
I wish to hear from people who have owned one for some time. Also, if anybody would like to share some 0-60 and 1/4 mile times I'm listening. I heard, with a skilled driver and brake torquing it can reach 60 in 7.7 - 7.9 seconds.
One more thing: There is no set break-in period that I know of for the Celicas. We drove ours like we do now (4247 miles) the day we bought it. And also, have no problems other than a broken cargo cover clip (my fault-- stuffed too much under the cargo cover on a weekend jaunt) Enjoy.
Additionally, the dealership is offering a balloon payment option and I was wondering if anyone knows the formula for calculating the monthly payments. Using a payment calculator, my estimates come well under the advertised pricing. My guess is that you pay some sort of premium for financing this way. Any advice on this type of payment would be very helpful.
Thanks again! I'll let you know when I become a happy Celica GT owner!
Doug
Say you buy a $20,000 car. You only finance a part of it, like $15,000 for instance. Then, at the end of the term (usually 5 years), you pay the rest, which in the example above would be $5000. Kind of like a reverse down payment if you think about it. Also, at the end you can trade the car and hope it is worth as much as you owe on it. The third way is to finance the remaining money ($5000 in my example) for longer, then after that the car will be yours. See what I mean now?? Any more questions, just post here and I will try to help you with them.
Is this balloon payment on Leases or Purchases, and do most Toyota dealships offer them?
Do Toyota dealerships try and get you to take an extended warrenty? Also, do vehicle mods void the extended warrenty / Factory warrenty?
Has anyone out there upgraded there 2000 celica? With what? and what kind of performance increase?
Can anyone give me the exact dimensions of the trunk in the GTS? I would like to know, so I can have a custom speaker box ready, also, does anyone happen to know if the stock stereo has any RCA out jacks, so I can add an amp in back for my subs.
Would also like to know what anyone has paid for a GTS with Spoiler, moonroof & ABS? Has anyone done ratings on the side impact airbags? And would it be recommended to get aftermarket Rims and tires, or go with the 16" upgrades?
I have finally made my deceison on the Celica 2000 after a day of looking around and driving different cars. Once I drove it, I knew I wanted it. Looking to purchase in a few months, want to have a nice downpayment. This is why I ask so many questions... I know what I want, and this is my first import car. I'm really tired of my Family style Ford Contour, I'm too young to be cruising the family wagon!
Thanks for any help
Mark
As far as extended warranty, any dealer will recommend it. I do not think it is worth the money. AS far as balloon payments, not sure how Toyota works it. I know they have them on leases, but not sure about traditional financing. Check with your local dealer or www.toyota.com.
Doug
Thanks,
George
carlady/host
Call the 'sport shift' what it is: an automatic. Yeah, its got some gee whiz features but ITS STILL A SLUSHBOX! Why would you pay MORE for something that:
a) gives you worse mileage (checked gas lately?)
b) gives you worse performance (an automatic equipped Prelude vs. a stick shift Neon: hmmmmmm, could be close!)
c) detracts from what these cars were designed for and that's quick, spirited driving at a reasonable cost.
If you don't know how to drive a stick-shift, s'okay. It's real easy to learn and you'll probably never want to go back. (sorry about the rant - I just don't like automatics)
Does anyone know when the Rod Millen or TRD, intake and exhaust comes out?