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  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    Tell hubby that my 1996 Dodge Ram 3500 (extended cab, 4x4, dually) has a Cummins that will kick Digit Number 6 on the odometer next week. First time I've ever kept a new vehicle that long; previous high was 88K. No plans on trading for at least a year when it will finally be broken in at 125K on the ticker :)

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  • krodrenkrodren Member Posts: 31
    What kind of trade value for this 87K miles loaded (sunroof, JBL, etc.) 4X4, perfect leather and carpets, SOHC V-6, dark red, in suburban Philadelphia area?
    Thanks much.
  • jerhotjerhot Member Posts: 27
    I posted this yesterday:

    I have an '01 granite green Odyssey EX that will be coming off lease in February. I am way low on miles, just 25,000 at this point. No NAV (which was the only option at the time). I'm assuming you're familiar with the van, but the EX has power everything, including two power sliding doors. It has a few scratches, but no accident damage. How much is it worth?

    I was chastised for not adding information about the tires, windows, and interior. It's all fine. The van only has 25,000 miles, so the tires are great. No problems, dings, replacements, etc. with the glass. And the interior has the usual wear and tear on the plastic surfaces around the doors and openings, but the rest is fine.
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    In order to do a thorough evaluation, as much as one can through a keyboard and monitor, you need a good description.

    "The van only has 25,000 miles, so the tires are great."

    At 25,000 miles, I've seen cars and trucks on their second set of tires or badly in need of replacement. I've seen tires worn out at 15,000 miles - never assume that because mileage is low, everything is perfect. A $500 set of tires makes a difference in trade value.

    Usual wear and tear on the interior of a 25,000 mile vehicle? What's "usual"? That leaves a lot to question since my new car has 30K on it and there's not a mark or scratch on the interior (or exterior). I've seen cars with 10,000 miles that looked like the kids went through the Mickey D's drive-thru for ammunition for the food fight, plus the dog hair - can't forget the blanket-like covering of long white hair from the Alaskan Malamute that goes EVERYWHERE with you - get the point?

    Terry is a great guy, works his tail off 16-18 hours a day, and posts 30-40 posts a day here for free - just trying to help him help you.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    What the life expectancy on one of those Dodge Cummings diesel trucks are?

    A buddy is looking at one that can be bought cheap, but it's pushing 200K.

    Looks and runs great.
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    go 300K before needing anything major - then it was just a re-ring and valve seals, like a normal other-the-road diesel.
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    As a member of two Dodge Ram clubs, I can tell you that there are people out there with 500K and up who use their trucks in daily commercial duty. 200K on the engine is no big deal if properly maintained, but do check the rest of the drivetrain.

    Ford has sold more diesels than Dodge in total volume, but the Cummins has a following on the level of Harley-Davidson. DC reports that 75% of all Ram 2500/3500 trucks leave the factory with the straight-six oil burner, and the Ram/Cummins owner is the most loyal of all the Chrysler vehicle lines.

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  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    at for next year - a 4x2 Crew Cab Cummins Dually w/6-speed.

    I'll drive that thing until it falls apart.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Like Kcram mentioned, they are stronger than the 101st Airborne in a fire fight .. Stone Cold killers, "properly serviced" these things can do 200/250/300k .. I have seen 95's with 200k+, do the strong $6's at the auctions ...

            For what it may be worth, I have towed a lot of 33/36ft performance boats with these "fat daddys" .. the APBA guys, that's ALL they will use and they can buy A N Y T H I N G they want ... Cummins and Mercruiser, it's the only way to go.

                         Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... GGW ... l.o.l....

             Did you see what happened at Arizona State .? .... :)

                      Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ........ Hi Jim .. Whoa, no description .. then all of a sudden we have the Declaration of Independence in 5000 words or less .l.o.l..

            I'm an old guy, did I see "no 4WD" ... ?

             Speaking of nice trucks, this sounds like a nice one .. the big V8, Xcab SLT, ALL the stuff and then some, good color and nooo miles ... trade side and depending on the dealer, your going to be in and around the $16's, might could "maybe" see the high $16's ..

            Total $17,865 -- $19,769 -- $21,842

      

             The tall $17's ... ? maybe if you have the Pope's personal home phone number ... down Retail Rd, $19,900 is an "asking price" and $18,9/$19,5 get's it south of the driveway ..

                         Terry ;-)
  • rerenov8rrerenov8r Member Posts: 380
    WOW almost 100 more HP than stock -- hold out for TRIPLE NEW CAR value!

    How much of the HP comes from the Mintex Pads vs slotted brake rotors?

    But seriously, nobody is going to pay extra for brakes on a trade or even a "smart shopper". Anybody with a catalog & a stamp can order the same brakes you did.

    Ditto for the other "bolt-ons". With a car that is essentially an econo-sport you will probably do better trying to sell the bolt-on SEPERATELY. If you need to sell the vehicle simply restore it to "factory spec".

    If you are simply wondering if your mods have increased the monetary value of the vehicle the simple answer is NO.

    The more complex answer is IF (and it is very big if...) you can find ANOTHER enthusiast such as yourself they MIGHT pay you more for the car with the bolt-ons than you actually sunk into 'em (asssuming that you did a 1st Class job of making EVERYHTING look SPECTACTULAR) BUT there just are not that many Jetta "fans" ot there.

    Sorry.
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Member Posts: 2,242
    I'm figuring to see what the dealer offers, add the tax savings, and then see which way to go. The dealer is drooling, but trying not to show it.

    Jim
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Your welcome .. yep, I don't doubt he's drooling, can't get em', can't find em' .. so let me know ..

                        Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... Right now the vehicle is worth in and around the ultra high $9's, maybe the low to mid $10's if it's "jam up" .. it's a 4WD LS hangin' out in Philly with 37k .. right ..?

                If I were you, and I'm not .. I would wait til about 3/4wks before the lease is actually up (January right.?) .. at that time the lease co will look at the auction reports and re-evaluate what they are doing .. I have a stupid feeling you can sneak that one in for around $10ish with no payments, maybe less ..... did I get your info right, or did I get you mixed up with the Pastrami sandwich I just ordered .?

           Nope, I guess not -- **have a 2000 Isuzu Rodeo LS 4WD, auto, red, 6 cd changer, 38k miles. My 39 month lease is up in January, and Isuzu LT has offered to sell me the car for $11,500 + the remaining 3 payments. Does this sound like a good deal?**

    Thanks,
    Adam

                          Terry.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    At least I know why you are awake in the middle of the night to post here.

    Any ideas on RWV for a 2002 Lexus IS300, silver, roof/leather, 25K, with a handshaker? Shifts too nice to call it a meat cleaver.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • h20skih20ski Member Posts: 29
    new at this: looking for a true trade in value on: '96 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4x4, auto, ac, leather/ heated seats, moonroof, cd, sat radio, wood grain, tow package + electric brakes, external spare,etc... garage kept, 128,000 miles -highway commuting
    would appreciate learning a fair price for trade-in. Thanks!!
  • wolfinbluewolfinblue Member Posts: 11
    Thanks for the input. I guess I'm not exactly looking to get more for the car with the mods. I'm more concerned with NOT getting LESS for the car. Granted, demand for the car with the bolt-ons is not going to be there. But really the only thing that keeps it from appearing to be stock to the average buyer would be the stainless steel exhaust. It is slightly louder than stock. The brakes, chip, etc. are not noticeable when it comes down to it (Chip is APR and can be turned off).

    Just wondering if dealers will not be willing to give me as much for it as they would if the mods weren't there and the car was stock...

    Yes, I am trading in the sub 14-second 1/4 mile Jetta for something practical, a truck.
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    rerenov8or said, you'd be best to return the car to stock as much as possible - I'm a hard-core car guy with three cars that I race (2 SCCA autocross, one D1GP drift car) and I love modded cars - can't imagine owning a stock vehicle, not even when I'm 90.

    The thing is, 99% of buyers could care less about your chip and intake, and would worry that the car was beat to death because it has performance mods and you know, they saw "the Fast and the Furious" advertised and those boys were up to no good!

    Remove and replace what you can, sell the stuff on ebay, and enjoy your truck.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... I don't think anyone was really trying to chastise you, it's that I need as much "real" info as possible .. ya know, location and region can make a Big difference, color, miles, *condition, miles, options, any visits to Maaco, that little bitty 31" rip in the back seat from the kids dragging their surf boards in and out ...

             But anyway, if this is a nice EX (Nav's are only worth a few hundred on a trade), deep rubber, no paintwork, no kisses, no wear or rips in the seats, no I dropped a 55 gallon barrel of coffee in the back and forgot to clean it up, no I let Grand Ma back it down the driveway and she slid the drivers door down 3 palm tree's and of course if the service is current, so if it's super clean and needs -0- ... then trade side, you should be seeing in and around the mid to high $19's, could get real lucky and see $20, the miles save it ....

                    I hope this helps ...

                          Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... 99 LS 400 by jgwaltney Nov 05, 2003 (11:17 am)
    Terry,
    I'm in Nash Tn and have located a 99 LS 400 w/ 29,000 miles - 1 owner, good color (white pearl/tan) std options, w/all records, locally purch and serviced from Lexus dlr here - Asking 29,900, but says they'll look at anything above the 27,000 they can get at local auto auction.

    Trying to compare this to a local Lexus CPO of same car, 99 white/tan, with 56,000 miles that has the Lexus CPO new car warranty for a full 3 yrs or up to 100k mi (3 yrs would catch me as I only drive 10k or less per yr)- Dealer asking 29,000 (can be bought for 28,500) - or will sell a 2000 of same exact car w/52,000 mi CPO for 29,900/29,500?

    Your thoughts on real value, which and why? private sale vs dealer with more miles but cpo warranty, etc.) - Also, what would you exect in annual depreciation on this vehicle (99 LS 400)over next 5 yrs? - Thx in advance

    Your thoughts

                    ________________

             Let me grab another cup of coffee for this one .. Oooookaaay, much better.

             For starters, it's a Lexus and if it's had all the proper service, these things will last 150/200k for a quarter of the price of a Benz ..

             The nice thing about Lexus is, you always have a broad market to sell too when you go to sell/trade it .. folks don't have the fear of a 80k Lexus as they do with a 80k Benz, Bimmer, etc.

              So, now let's look at the prices .. we have a private(?) seller with a 99 LS with 29k, white with tan gut's ... and they are asking $29,900 and will "ponder" $27ish .. right.? - we also have a 99 LS 56ker with a CPO and they are asking $29ish, and may consider $28ish .. right.?

              "IF" ~ both vehicles are identical, no hit's no runs no errors, no repaints, great history with Carsmack, super service history, if you can "feel" the love and they both "stand tall" .. then the better deal is the 29k LS .. $27ish is the right $$ deal, I doubt they will see that kind of $$ at the auction, more in that $24/$25 range, but the point is, they arent trying to hurt you on the retail price, it's a $29 asking vehicle, it "seems" like a Great deal .. so $27ish is really fair.

               The LS with 56k ...? $28,500 ..? .. that's a great price if you are dating Dolly Parton .. it's a $20 grand vehicle, add the service, add the trip to Rio, add a this and that, add the CPO and you are lookin' at "around" $23ish "standing on the moon", a "fair" retail price on this dude is $26ish, maybe ...

             Price is always nice .. but have them both checked out CLOSE, a touch here and there means nothing, but any K-Mart kisses that have seen months in the shop can mean everything ..

            What's their value for the future ..? I really don't try to Guess the future of vehicles since Mathias kid has been using my crystal ball as a door stop .. but here is some food for thought, clean 97's with 50/60k are doing the $15's on the wholesale side, down Retail Rd they will see $19,0 ..

                     I'm tired now, time for my pre-nap ..

                           Terry ;)
  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Member Posts: 2,242
    I have been around cars all my life and I still have to read rreeaaaalllll slow to figure out what you are saying! But I love it!

    Thanks for all your help on this board. We found an exact match for a dealer swap out of San Antonio to get the Yukon that will be replacing the '00 Sierra. I will work the numbers Monday and see if it will work.

    Jim
  • rtahirrtahir Member Posts: 1
    I lease a 2001 Subaru Legacy Wagon GT. Lease ends in a year (11/04). It has very low mileage (6000).
    I would like to get out of the lease and buy a new Ford Focus ZX3. The monthly price of that should be lower than what my lease is now.
    What should be the consideration here so my monthly payments will be less?

    Thanks.
  • captnrogercaptnroger Member Posts: 7
    Hi all, hoping for some help here. We have a excellent condition silver 1997 BMW 528 that we are trying to trade in, and we're having a hard time getting what we feel is a decent value for it. It's two-owner, and high miles (98000), but has all service records and is in absolute excellent shape inside and out. It is the standard automatic, with a glass moonroof and 6-disc changer.

    Edmunds lists this at around 13,500 trade-in, but I can't find a dealer in central Ohio that will give me more than 9K on trade. We're looking to buy a used Navigator at around 20K. My local BMW dealer isn't interested in buying, but has the exact same car with 20K MORE miles on his lot listed at 14,900.

    What's a fair trade-in value on this one? Thanks all.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... Hi Jim ~ So what are you saying ..? .. that I should have paid more attention in school and not contributed so much to the fortune of the Anheuser-Busch family ..?

                     Terry ;)
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .. **We have a excellent condition silver 1997 BMW 528** ....

               Ooop's let's back it up .. there's no such thing as an "Excellent 97 Anything" - unless, it has 10,000 miles, only driven on Sundays to that big church in Scottsdale (and that's only to the early service) seats been hovered in and stored in a garage with a 300pt Egyptian storing cover ... so let's get back to yours.

              It's a 97 528i, it's in the land of the Buckeyes, it's silver in color and we have service pouring through it's veins .. so we have the right color, service is all there, auto, slider, hopefully new sneakers, no kisses, no drive by's -- and of course, those itty bitty 98,000 miles .. ouch.!

              
               $9 grand "seems" about right based on your description .. if it's as clean as you say it is, it could "might" maybe be worth more towards the $10ish side, but I'm not lookin' at it ... $13,5 for a trade-in ... ? not in this part of the Galaxy, or any others that I'm aware of, the miles kill it .. $13,5 is a Retail "asking" price.

                      Sorry :(

                          

                            Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    **At least I know why you are awake in the middle of the night to post here.** ... I was only lookin' ..... :)

            02, 25kish, el' manual, leather, slider .. trade side, there doing in and around that $21ish figure, you should be able to buy them for $24,9 or less ....

                          Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... Take all that junk off the vehicle, it means nothing to the dealer and less to the next buyer ..

                         Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... It depends, and I don't mean the kind you wear .. 4dr .? it's kinda tall in the miles dept, it's a 4x4, V6, slider and it lives in Philly ..

                  If the tires are newish, service is 100%, no repaints, no I used the interior for a paint ball contest, cold air, no click click in the 4x4 ... then trade side, in and around the $4's, if it's ultra nice, super clean, needs -0-, then it could roll into the $5's, if it needs stuff ~ start deducting ...

                          Terry.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    thanks on the Lexus. I think I could probably get the '04 I looked at for about 30, so I would probably do that instead. 5K for 2 model years, 25K less miles, more features, and piece of mind sounds good to me.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,586
    2003 A4 1.8T CONVERTIBLE
    Black with grey leather.
    Premium pack, sport pack, Bose, heated seats.
    9000 miles.. At Audi dealer with Audi assured extended warranty (6yr/100K)
    Auto/front wheel drive (only way they came in '03)
    Looks brand new (which it should).
    What does he have in this, and what can I steal it, I mean BUY it for?

    Thanks!!
    kyfdx

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  • suka_gsuka_g Member Posts: 11
    seems to me I hit this discussion about a week or so to late. Looking for a used car -- and the Chevy Impala LS is one of the top 2. I want to spend about 11-12K. Two quick questions:

    * Saw a 2001 at the dealer. LS with everything, heated seats, leather, moonroof, black, 45K. Dealer refuses to budge on 14,5. What's up with that?

    * Second -- hey b4z, where do you live and are you still trying to sell that car????

    Thanks. Suka G.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    I know, stay away from the car lots, but......

    That Chevy is killing us, we have dropped $3400 into it in the past month and its still cropping up with new problems. We just can't keep this up, so, what would be a good private party price to cut it loose at? We are in it so far that I just shrug and will chalk it up to a lesson learned.

    Let's see, its a 1994 Chevy K3500, silverado pkg, reg cab, 6.5L TD, manual trans, 4x4, green/tan interior, pwr windows/locks, am/fm/cd, a/c (ice cold). Its in fair shape for its age and miles (150k). It runs excellent, but has its fair share of quirks. Its spent more time on a lift then in our driveway lately, its downtime is killing us financially since hubby can't get to the logging site very often.

    I'm thinking around $6500, I'd like to be able to pay the Explorer off so we can buy a newer truck. No, not getting rid of the Explorer.
  • ramped1ramped1 Member Posts: 159
    My rig came home steaming today, so it may be time to get serious. You like these, don't ya Terry?

    It's got the V6 (don't they all?) 27,000, white w/cloth, slider, CD, keyless, power driver's seat, in beautiful sunny Orlando. Dealer is asking 12,9. Whaddya think?
  • captnrogercaptnroger Member Posts: 7
    9 grand is in the ballpark of what we've been offered, so you confirmed what other dealers have told us. I appreciate your help.
  • jratcliffejratcliffe Member Posts: 233
    Yeah, I was surprised at how low those S2000s had come. I had a bid in at $14k, and was about to win (it was an eBay no reserve auction) when the seller pulled the car because it had "already been sold." Yeah, right. Ticked me off - if they wanted to sell their cars with a reserve (perfectly reasonable behavior) they should use one upfront rather than cancelling an auction when it's not going their way.
  • deadeye5deadeye5 Member Posts: 93
    HI Have a new XT on order. Dealer will not give much as a trade in (Whats new) Have it in Paper here in FL. Panhandle.Has just 39K miles and could pass for a 2002 model. Think it will bring 11.5 or so ??

      Deadeye5
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    Charlie,
    Over the last two or three years, I've read all the posts on this board. Over 15,000 of them. And I think you just took Best In Show for "worst description".

    We'll need:
    2dr or 4dr?
    2wd or 4wd?
    color?
    interior; color & material?
    transmission -- ok, prolly 4sp auto, but there are some 5sp sticks in the 2d.
    condition -- looks like '02 is a start.. do you smoke? got a dog?

    Quick, before you get sent to your room...
    And good luck with your Subie.
    -Mathias

    Edit: You are not doing yourself any favors trading a domestic at an import store; these guys may not know how to properly price your truck... low miles should be a big plus. You might consider retailing it yourself, or at least clean it up and make the rounds of the bigger used-car operations in your area. It's a good idea to always have a Plan B.
  • dbgindydbgindy Member Posts: 351
    LOL
  • mmo1184mmo1184 Member Posts: 7
    Hi, I am interested in knowing the trade in and private party values for a 1998 Audi A4 Quattro 4Dr Sedan in Hibiscus Red with Gray CLOTH interior,Tiptronic, sunroof,heated seats, no cd player, power driver seat, side air bags, climate control, power windows/locks,fairly new tires. Good Condition with 77,600 miles in Fairfield County, CT NYC Metro Area. Thanks
  • timewastetimewaste Member Posts: 8
    I have a 99 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, has the 4.7L V8, the upgraded 4WD, tow package, skid plates, I think it has every option. It's around 34k miles, been garaged its entire life, etc. The paint's in excellent condition except - and this is my question - it hit a concrete pole in a parking garage on the corner of the bumper and the corner of the bumper cover is pushed in. It looks quite fine until you look at that front corner of the car. I went to two body shops and they both quoted a new bumper cover and paint, about $800. It's been about a year now that we haven't bothered fixing it (since it became the second car, it mostly sits in the garage), but now we're starting to think about trading in on something newer. Should I fix it before trade-in, or not? Will a dealer feel better about being able to control how it gets fixed or would they rather not deal with getting it done, and therefore will give me a bad deal to cover their hassle?

    Edited to add: Seattle, WA area

    Thanks!
  • krodrenkrodren Member Posts: 31
    It is clean and $5K was what was offered--you were right on the nose--in trade for a leftover fx45 with a big discount of its own. Thanks again.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... ** trade in by h20ski Nov 06, 2003 (10:05 pm)
    new at this: looking for a true trade in value on: '96 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4x4, auto, ac, leather/ heated seats, moonroof, cd, sat radio, wood grain, tow package + electric brakes, external spare,etc... garage kept, 128,000 miles -highway commuting
    would appreciate learning a fair price for trade-in. Thanks!! ** ...

              __________

          You make it sound pretty nice .. so, let's just say it has new rubber, no rust, no repaints, no freedom fry's, no I rolled over every rock between Denver and Salt Lake, service is 120% and no click click in the 4WD ... trade side, you should be seeing in and around the tall $3's, could maybe "might" stretch into the $4ish range ... again, if it needs stuff, start deducting ...

                         Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... Your welcome, glad I could help ..

                     Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Your in Kentucky, right.? .. not a bunch of these out, yet .. I gotta figure he paid $31/$32ish for it, service, CPO, this and that, probably comes to the table around $33/$34ish ...

        What's he asking for it ..?

                      
                           Terry.
  • ddeliseddelise Member Posts: 353
    Premium Package, Automatic, Alloy Wheels, Sunroof, Leather.

    Black, with 16,000 miles (overall in excellent condition). Has been serviced at the dealer.

    Located in Washington, DC.

    This is coming off of lease in 2 months - buy-out is $13.2k.

    What is the trade-in and retail on this?

    Thanks Much - Damon
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... GLS ... TDI .... 4 banger .. VR6 .....? auto .....? 450HP V12 ....?

               work with me ...............

                         Terry.
  • ddeliseddelise Member Posts: 353
    Premium Package, Automatic, Alloy Wheels, Sunroof, Leather.

    Black, with 16,000 miles (overall in excellent condition). Has been serviced at the dealer.

    Located in Washington, DC.

    This is coming off of lease in 2 months - buy-out is $13.2k.

    What is the trade-in and retail on this?

    Thanks Much - Damon
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... ***think you just took Best In Show for "worst description".***

        ....... l.o.l................................
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,586
    "2003 A4 1.8T CONVERTIBLE"

    __________________________________

    "Your in Kentucky, right.? .. not a bunch of these out, yet .. I gotta figure he paid $31/$32ish for it, service, CPO, this and that, probably comes to the table around $33/$34ish ...

        What's he asking for it ..?

    _______________________________________________

    He had $36,990 on the windshield. It just came out in the paper on Saturday at $33,990. He seemed surprised at that (Really?? In today's paper???) But to be fair, even I was surprised the asking price was that low.. Thats why I stopped by. It looks like it stickered for about $39,500 new. He worked up numbers based on $33,990.... but, I wasn't buying that day, so who knows how much he would come down.. Doesn't sound like there is a lot more room down from that number.

    regards,
    kyfdx

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