Real-World Trade-In Values

rroyce10 · January 2004

....... Right now, the GT's with 7/9k are doing around the ultra high $13's, low $14's, some get a little crazy and "ring the bell" and see $15, of course you don't see those guys again, or at least not for a looong while .l.o.l..

I'm thinkin' $12,0 would be just about all of it, it's those darn miles ...

Terry

rroyce10 · January 2004

...... I just want you to know that I'm taking valuable time away from my "paint by numbers" Eiffel Tower picture, just to do this ...

A local dealer in Metro Atlanta has the following 2003 FX35 with 8K miles, in Liquid Copper, and the following options, for $38915. I would like to offer them $35K for it.

I would aslo be trading in a no-sell Green 2WD '04 Toy Sequoia SR5 (2.5K miles) with leather, roof rails, running boards, dual air, alloy wheels, 3rd row seats, dual power seats, driver side lumbar support, homelink, tinted glass, towing package, cargo cover, carpeted matts, 2 tone paint and fog lights, keyless entry, cruise and JBL sound audio system with 6 CD changer & speakers. ===== 2,500 miles, color is kinda ok, 2wd .. trade side, probably in and around that $32ish figure

Do I sound like I am smoking something? === if your are, then blow some this way ..

What should I expect on the trade?
If that helps they are offering brand new 2003 FX35, equipped without Navi & DVD, for $500 below invoice. I hope I have not previuosly used my 'allocated' questions with you yet so you can provide your expertise again. thank u. Is it your auction day, today?

Their FX35
Heated Seats
Rear camera
Tinted Glass
Sunroof
Anti-lock Brakes
Traction Control
Alloy Wheels
Power Driver's Seat
Leather Seats
DVD Player
GPS Navigation System
Floor Mats
Compact Disc Changer
Keyless Entry
Security System
AM/FM Radio
Air Conditioning
Cruise Control

                 You should be able to trade for your vehicle and "about" $3/$4ish grand - if I'm reading this right ...

             Now that you have clogged up the whole board, now you have to let me know what happens .... And don't forget.!

                       Terry

driftracer · January 2004

just keep the little guy and buy something later.

lelandl · January 2004

Hi, Terry and all, pls help:

I've been trying to buy an used
2002 Impala recently. while I found that at either kbb or edmunds, the trade-in or private party price for a 2002 impala is much higher than that of a 2002 used buick century or chevy Malibu, but all these 3 models have similiar new car price when choosing similiar options because impala has more rebates than malibu&century now.
At my local dealer(San antonio, TX) the malibu is being sold at even higher price than impala now.

For an 2002 impala 3.4L 63K mi
power everything, auto , CD, cruise, ABS with good condition has trade-in price at kbb around $7800 but a used century or malibu or taurus with same options have trade-in price only around $5500.

there must be a reason, is Impala far better rated car than century or malibu so to have higher user-car price? then why 2004 impala is cheaper than 04 malibu now?

I am looking forward to your guys' opinion, thank you :-)

gold233790 · January 2004

Ok, looking to trade in the following vehicle....

2000 Audi A8. Regular wheel base. 66k miles. Clean title, no incidents. Looks about as good as a 4 year old luxury car with 66k on it can. Relatively new treads, can throw in pair of winter sneakers if that makes any difference (about halfway through their life).

NAV, xenon, 17 inch wheels (1k original option), front and rear heated seats, parking assist. Black on black, obviously quattro. Reside in NJ.

Thanks!

tomcat630 · January 2004

Malibus before 2004 were smaller and cheaper than Impalas. Buick Centurys were heavy fleet cars, so theres an oversupply.

thel · January 2004

I'm looking to buy a beater pickup. It's a 1990 Toyota 4WD

4 cyl,

reg cab,

short bed.

213,000 miles,

5 speed,

31" tires that will soon need to be replaced,

Driver's side window won't move up or down, no AC (broken I guess), and he's lost the rear bumper.

No rust to speak of and the interior is OK (kind of musty).

The seller is asking for $2600, I was thinking of offering $1300 if I offer anything. What sounds fair to you, fellow Chief fan?

Thanks in advance for you help!

PS: Gunther is back.....Merry X-mas for me! hoo-ray!!!

fxfan · January 2004

LOL Terry, I missed the most obvious!!!! Loved your reply

It's a Civic EX Coupe! Sherry

jross37 · January 2004

I'm interested in selling my 350z Enthusiast w/ 6sp MT. It is Silverstone (almost gunmetal color) with about 12,000 miles on it. I've had it since December 2002. I've talked to a few dealers but I'm afraid they are offering me way too little. Any idea what I could expect to get?

akangl · January 2004

I never did get over there today. Was sitting at the service dept at the Ford dealer waiting for them to check the cooling system on the Explorer when I got a phone call........the kind of phone call you DON'T want to get.

Kevin called and said he was in trouble......I guess he came around a curve on the logging road with the Dodge and turned the wheels but the truck went straight.......over an embankment.

$255 later the truck was out of the ditch (thanks to a very wonderful wrecker driver) and all is well again. The truck came so close to rolling it wasn't even funny, the wrecker driver thought it was going to go over when he pulled on it. Thankfully it did not and other than a few scratches and a couple small dings the truck is fine.

So, I spent my day driving back and forth, never did get the Explorer fixed, drove about 300 miles today instead.

steeler_fan · January 2004

Still here...

I leased the car as a certified pre-owned (CPO) car in 2000. It had 19988 miles on it, and it was in flawless condition. I had a 4yr/12000 mile/yr lease and I planned on keeping it as I was well under the mileage at first. Then I changed jobs and, well you know the rest.

qbrozen · January 2004

wait, wait, wait, ..... i gotta stop laughing.... exactly why are you willing to spend over $1K (let's forget that ridiculous asking price for a second) on a truck that has gone its life expectancy, has 13 years of Toyota truck rust buildup, needs $500 in new shoes, no A/C, oh... almost forgot the best part... a "lost" rear bumper - I just woulnd't be able to control my curiosity at this one -- how do you "lose" a bumper? Did the driver come out one morning after a heavy night of partying only to find his truck parked on the front lawn and, "damn", one less bumper? Or maybe he took it off and put it somewhere for safe keeping but forgot exactly where that was? Its a piece of cake to find those keys, but those pesky bumpers are always getting misplaced, right? LOL. I don't even think I'd take this one for free, personally. But to each is own. good luck.

thel · January 2004

He said he left it in his other pants....

Seriously, he said the old one began rusting so he just took it off. Around here, it's difficult to find 4x4's in working order for under $2k, come to think of it, I have yet to see one.

I may just end up putting a new tranny into my dad's 94 Ranger XLT supercab with a 4.0L and 4WD and driving that around for a year or so.

To be honest, I am going through various scenarios, schemes if you will, to get me butt back into a Miata......man I miss that car!!! ***sigh****

That said, I do lots of woodworking, furniture, etc. and I need something to haul stuff with and get me around in winter time when my future Miata is worthless w/o winter tires which I won't invest in (don't want some SUV to slide into my tiny roadster).

My gut tells me to pass, but I only need it to go for a year or so....

rroyce10 · January 2004

....... I can't explain the difference in KBB or the others .. but the market "views" the Impala as a full size vehicle, the Centurys and Malibu's as a mid size .. there is a Ton of Malibu's in lease, fleet, rental programs, also it seems that the new body style has also changed the market "considerably" ...

Impala, especially the loaded up LS's have been doing real well, they sell fast and folks like the size and the value .. Centurys (which is my personal favorite) still have had the same style for 8/9 years, so it's market change, lot's of them around, stuff like that ...

Terry.

rroyce10 · January 2004

....... Hmm, uh, well, um, eh, hmmm .. sounds nice, ok, well, aah, how about, nope, maybe, ugh .. I will have to ponder this one, check back with me in July.

Terry.

porknbeans · January 2004

Around here I've seen some reeeaally nice examples of treated lumber bumpers on farm trucks. I'm sure I could get you some names for more detailed info if your interested.

thel · January 2004

Forget I asked....

rroyce10 · January 2004

...... It states it's a MFG vehicle, I would have to see the title, but it "could" very well be because of the auction location .. don't worry about the Ply part, that's the way they do it ...

Terry.

ddelise · January 2004

Just a friendly reminder...

What are these doing at auction:

SL's, Premium Package (no Nav or DVD), 2WD, 15K miles.

Just wondering if it makes sense to look at a used one, or to go with a 2004 as I can take advantage of the Nissan Vendor Program, and get the car at slighly under invoice. Although, I should maybe not use the program since after reading some of the Murano boards, people are getting the cars for $1k under invoice even though there are no rebates or dealer cash. Go figure that one.

Damon

rroyce10 · January 2004

........ Thank goodness he's ok, vehicles are a dime a dozen and can be replaced, people can't ..


            Then again, in your part of the world there not a dime a dozen . l.o.l...

                      Terry.

dbgindy · January 2004

Just glad to hear that Kevin's okay. I understand from my wife that new husbands are worse to break in then new vehicles... :-)

Duncan

rroyce10 · January 2004

..... Hey Damon, what area of the country are you from.?

          I have read some of the same posts, I'm not aware of any incentives that has happened in the last 90 days, and that's when they would have needed them the most (that doesn't mean they haven't been out there) ...

             I think you will find that type of post on all vehicles ~ when the Mini's first came out, people were posting how they paid $1,500/$2,000 back of invoice, dealers gave them free vacations to Australia, free Rolling Stones tickets and a Limo and a hotel for a week ... but the reality was, those things "were" so hot at the time that Chevy dealers were buying them at the auctions and moving their Vette's off the front line and putting them on drive-ups and selling them in 2 days .. so I really take alot of that type of information as Troll Bait, if ya know what I mean ...

                      Terry

ddelise · January 2004

I'm in FL - kind of cold here lately - low 40's at night, high 60's during the day. So cold in fact, that I was only able to play 4 rounds of golf the past week...

rroyce10 · January 2004

........ Miles are a little stiff, but if it's really nice, great history, etc, then the dealer probably has in and around that $25ish range in it, maybe a little more, maybe a little less .. it's not like they have been flooding the market, more SE's than SL's ... I would think you could buy one for "around" that $28ish figure ... me too, actually I like the cool weather, you know it's too hot in FL when you don't even take your boat out .......

Let me know what happens ...

Terry.

juliec2 · January 2004

How do I determine what the value of the used/loaded pac would be vs. the new basic pac in 4 years? I am thinking that the loaded with 14,000 miles at $29k would have already taken its big depreciation hit and the new would take that hit after I drive it off the lot? Both same sale price, used $42msrp and new $34msrp. Any way to figure this out?? Since the new has 0% fin. for 4 years the used would cost around $3m over the same period. Thanx!

akangl · January 2004

I told him to figure out another opening sentence, that's twice I've gotten those phone calls from him.

The first time he ended up in the ER, a tree fell on him. So, this time was relatively minor. He does this logging thing for fun......as the wrecker driver put it......"you loggers are nuts", but of course the wrecker driver should know, he's a logger too.

We are going to buy some winter tires for that big Dodge, that should solve the problem, should have bought them before, we'd be money ahead.

akangl · January 2004

You're wife is correct, I've spent nearly 11 years breaking in this one, don't want to start over.

I've decided that its silly to try and save money by not buying winter tires for his truck, $1000 is money well spent, so it will get the tires as soon as we can get it to the tire shop. We just spent $650 on winter tires for my Explorer, makes a world of difference.

I'm just glad the truck didn't roll over, I would have hated to have to go truck shopping again.

mfletouva · January 2004

With all these exciting cars people are talking about (as opposed to these...) I was looking for trade values for...

1997 Grand Caravan SE
83500 miles
Grey/grey, a few scratches but clean--also has a tick problem with the fuel gauge (lights up like its empty and sometimes makes a ringing noise)
Drives nicely though, and has been trouble free except for the gauge...
All power & abs were standard along with cassette....

Also...
1999 Oldsmobile 88
49500
Red/Tan
Beautiful car, literally showroom condition--no scratches, immaculate interior with no signs of wear. CD player, all power was standard on it.

Thanks...you guys are fun just to read!

qbrozen · January 2004

where are you located again? Does the "Chief" thing mean Kansas?

I actually just saw an S-10 pickup here in Jersey for like $1200 and its only got 84K miles. Was pondering that one for myself. It was a stick and, I believe, no 4x4, though.

bazoooooka · January 2004

Terry great job!! 2 questions.

(1) What's an 02 GTI VW GOLF worth? (black, manual, 67k); both Trade in and Private; note it will need tires and brakes soon so maybe better for dealer to take.

(2) Also what can I get an 01 blue 325I stick shift (hard to find used and new here but maybe its cuz no one wants them), loaded with 23k miles on it for? (i.e. what are the going at auction and how much markup should I pay over this)

This is in Los Angeles....

Thanks

thel · January 2004

KANSAS!!! Bite your tongue!!! I'm in mid-Missouri. Graduated from Mizzou back in 1998 with my BSED! We don't hold with no Jayhawkers 'round here! LOL

There are plenty of 4X2 pickups in the 1k range, just not 4x4.

I'm still considering getting a full size newer pick-up and dumping my Matrix. I've only had the Matrix since November so I'm quite buried in it so that is why I've been considering cheaper trucks....search continues.

Maybe I'll call me Dad about his Ranger that has been sitting idly for 6 months. I talked him into retiring it and getting a 2000 CR-V for his rural mail car. He thought he'd keep the beat up Ranger as a back up. Of course, he hasn't needed it yet. That CR-V is tougher than it looks!

kyfdx · January 2004

How does that work? Does he have a separate set of pedals, and reach over to do the wheel? Didn't Subaru used to import right-hand drive Legacys for just this purpose?

rroyce10 · January 2004

..... Up until 4/5 years ago they used to use the old Mazda 3dr hatchback 323's in FL .. trannys would start to get a little weak around 150k, replace it and they would rolling around til' 250k, the heat must have killed those guys with all that glass .l.o.l..

Terry.

thel · January 2004

It's simply a car or truck used to deliver mail out in the "boonies". He couldn't afford one of the right hand drive Subies or the Jeep Cherokees so he's always used pickups or SUV's. Usually he sits in the passenger seat or in the middle (bench seat). Steers with the left-hand and operates the pedals with his left foot. Sounds weird but you get used to it.

Terry, with the USPS feeling the urge to compete with UPS and FedEX these days, they are delivering tons more parcels (packages) than they did 5-10 years ago....I don't think a Mazda compact hatchback would carry the load around here.

rroyce10 · January 2004

....... Achtung.! .. leather and a slider, right .?

Color is great for the area, miles are ultra tall and these have to be "jam-up" and "jelly tight" to grab any money, service has to be 120%, no swirl o'matic car washes, no American fry invasions, no I practiced botany in the seats, deep rubber, no repaints .. trade side, in and around the $17/$18 range, the miles are slapping ya right upside your head ..

Terry.

qbrozen · January 2004

wow. sorry. didn't mean to open up a whole can of Kansas ... I mean worms.
hey, what can i say, football ain't exactly my thang. neither is geography for that matter.

yer right. i just searched yahoo classifieds for any toyota, mazda, or chevy pickups within a 200 mile range within MO and found a whole lotta nothing.

ya know, a few bags of cement and some snow tires on a 4x2 can get around quite well in wintertime. Bad conditions with 4x4 just means you spin 4 tires instead of 2.

thel · January 2004

That idea has been brewing about in my head as well. Another option to consider.

Another bloke in the paper has a 1991 Mazda B2200 5-speed with 140k. He wants $1500 or so I think. I may take a look at it anyway. When I was 15 and just learning to drive, my Dad took me out in an 86 Toyota 4x2 with a 4 speed manual(another mail truck) and had me drive up hills in the snow...I managed it with some time.

kyfdx · January 2004

Those are nice trucks. Regardless of what others think about buying old trucks for that kind of money, there are plenty of willing buyers, and when you are done with it, you can probably get your money back out of it. So what if you can see the road go by through the floorboards?

regards,
kyfdx

thel · January 2004

if that B2200 was a 4x4, it would probably be advertised for twice that much.

tomcat630 · January 2004

re: late model Impalas

Yes, they are classified as full sized cars by the EPA. It is a stretched and widened W body.

stickguy · January 2004

One of your last chances to own a "modern" car with a carberatar (see, I can't even spell it right).

I almost bought one of these in '90, but got a Nissan instead. Lots more power in the Nissan, but the mazda drove nice and had a nicer cab.

lancerfixer · January 2004

Those pre-Ford Mazda trucks will. not. die.
As long as it's more or less rust free, that truck will last forever. My dad took two past 200k miles, and it was New England road salt, not mechanical failures, that did them both in.

tdoma · January 2004

Update from the dealer:
On the FX, which he is asking for $38.9K. They said they took in on a trade. The lowest they will go is $38K, and my offer is at $35K. I really do not want to pay anymore than $35.5K. What should I do? Playing the waiting game may hurt me from the trade-in end. Their FX hasn't been listed for more than a week. I love the FX.

ashleyandersin · January 2004

Terry,

Thank you so much for your numbers on trade ins for my VW's. As expected, I am selling them outright

!! I appreciate your accuracy and estimates!

Ashley*

bazoooooka · January 2004

What's an 03 Montero Limited fully loaded (as are all the limiteds) going for at auction and trade in??

Silver with 12k and super clean....

Thanks again.

ben95m · January 2004

Hello, I need your help in the price of this expedition. Could you give me private and trade-in. Thanks.

1999 Ford Expedition-Eddie Bauer 2wd
4.7liter Engine
Spruce Green Ext/Tan Leather Interior
Inside and Outside in good condition
70,000 miles
No accidents/damage/major repairs ever,Clear Title
Oil changed every 3k
3rd seat
6cd changer(factory)
"Good" goodyear tires
Luggage rack, Power everything,ABS,Tint,towing package,fog lights.
Located in Houston Texas.

Here is why I need your help. I recently went to a chevrolet dealer looking into tading in my expedition for a 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 w/50k, leather, bla bla bla. They are asking $23,400 and are not moving. They told me that all they could do with my trade was $7800! Needless to say, I walked away, after hearing from them that they cannot offer me more. They even suggested for me to sell it to carmax and then come back to buy their car. What say you on their trade in offer?

Thanks for you help, you are a great asset to edmunds!

thel · January 2004

Carburated eh? Last on of these I owned was a 1982 Mazda 626 coupe LOL. Neat car...friggin' deer!!! Well that explains why Edmund's has it at 85 hp.

I may call the guy and take a look at it.

Then again, I may end up fixing up my Dad's old Ranger if he'll let me use it. Bad transmission. But for the cost of a new transmission, I could either have a 94 4x4 w/ supercab and automatic or buy this guy's 91 Mazda w/ 4x2 and 5-speed.....hmmmm decisions, decisions.....

bazoooooka · January 2004

What's an 03 Montero Limited fully loaded (as are all the limiteds) going for at auction and trade in??

Silver with 12k and super clean....

Thanks again.

tomcat630 · January 2004

With all these used '03's traded in, it looks like there are still a lot of rich people that get brand new cars annually.

When I was a kid in the 60's, it was easier for middle class to do so, but then cars only lost $500 the 1st year, instead of $5000-10000.

rroyce10 · January 2004

....... Sorry, I have the attention span of an asparagus ..

            Besides with all of these exciting Peyton Place stories of "Aka", it sure keeps them yacking: Aka hit's a moose, moose hit's Aka back, hubby beats up a logger, logger pushes hubby off cliff, Aka buys a purple truck, then hit's an oil pipeline and almost blows up Anchorage, then trades it in 2 days later .. it just keeps ya at the end of your seat, don't it.?

In case it got overlooked by mfletouva Jan 22, 2004 (11:28 am)
With all these exciting cars people are talking about (as opposed to these...) I was looking for trade values for...

1997 Grand Caravan SE
83500 miles
Grey/grey, a few scratches but clean--also has a tick problem with the fuel gauge (lights up like its empty and sometimes makes a ringing noise)
Drives nicely though, and has been trouble free except for the gauge...
All power & abs were standard along with cassette....

     ======== It has 84k big miles, color is ok, got a short somewhere, SE, abs .. what can I say, these are not the pick of the litter .. trade side, in and around the high $2's, low $3's depending on where you live ...

Also...
1999 Oldsmobile 88
49500
Red/Tan
Beautiful car, literally showroom condition--no scratches, immaculate interior with no signs of wear. CD player, all power was standard on it.

      ======= it's a 99, (not an LS, right.?) it's a
O-88, 50k, no leather, no slider, good color and you say it's a nice one .. trade side, in and around the high $4's, low $5's, maybe double nickels if it's a "baby doll" ... me personally, I would have a wonderful detail done, great ad and drop it down Retail Rd, $7,495 *asking* and kick it lose at the first $6,5/$6,9 ...

               Good luck and let me know ..

                       Terry.

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