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01 Disco 7, BRG, new rubber, 70k ... hmm, nope that one had less miles in a yankee city(?) and a squeaky wife ...
In Hotlanta for this one ... ya know the drill by now, no French Fry invasions, (oop's, don't want use that anymore since Jacques Chirac has been caught stealing $money$) no American Fry invasions, no uh oh it's Maaco, no I ran over my Aunts garage at Thanksgiving, no meteorite hits, no Soccer Mom interiors and the service is from yesterday - basically it looks/drives and feels like an 03 with 20k ...
If so, then trade side, in and around the super ultra high $10's, low/mid $11's, "maybe" could even see the low low low low $12's, but I have a stupid feeling the miles and the color is going to stop a big money dancer, to Disco with your vehicle .. I bet $11,5 will just about send this off to the happy hunting ground ......................
Terry.
Thanks so much! So the warranty and the jump seats don't do much?
Oh well, lesson learned - expensive but learned.
Since I'm a Ga girl...then
fiddlededeee.....
Thanks again,
Not to bother your beauty sleep, but can you give me some numbers on the stuff posted here ?
.. OAC .. Dec 1, 2004 5:11pm
Muchos gracias....
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Bud .. if I had to sleep to get some beauty, I would be sleeping 20hrs a day .......
(none of these showed on my auction reports) ... Both of these dudes are on the looow side, lets get it out of here, Tumbleweed, how ya doing, bye bye pricing level ... the white pearl has the highest miles, and the dealer might "could" have paid the $34ish range for it, plus a this and a that, so I don't think he's trying to give anyone the guillotine, maybe $35,9ish(?) .... the black one, much less in the miles department, he probably paid the the $36ish range for it, plus the Partridge in a Pear tree, doesn't seem he's trying pay for his Christmas off any of these dudes ..... let me know how it goes.
(disclaimer) thats if they have a great history, clean Carsmack, no repaints, deep sneakers, serviced, yatti yatti yatti .................
Terry.
Pull the 3rd seat out and your kicking another $1,000+ off, at least ....... it's the miles that's crushing you, and the color don't help ~ Big miles on *any* Euro import has a tendency to come back and slap ya right upside your head, no matter what the "books" say ...... if you haven't used the warranty, then they will refund a percentage back -- great help down Retail Road though .............. ;^}
Terry.
Answer: "A lot". BTW, where are you advertising it, & for how much? It's got new Michelins, & a warranty; should help selling it privately (maybe?). There are some LR websites where you can put ads in for free, & good pics help a lot.
Thanks. I am going over to the dealership Saturday to check BOTH of these trucks, assuming they are still there and at the same prices, and if everything goes well, i.e. (disclaimer) thats if they have a great history, clean Carsmack, no repaints, deep sneakers, serviced, yatti yatti yatti .................
I'll let you know how it goes.
Sorry, had a blonde moment and I missed the "sell private party" thing -- Duh.!
If I was you (and I ain't) then a glorious detail, a superb 5/6 liner Ad in the biggest paper in the area to run for "at least" 10/14 days ... $13,900 *asking* and cut it from the herd for the first $12,9/$13,5 and yes, the warranty helps down Retail Rd .... what were you asking.?
Terry.
Terry.
Right headlight, radiator, a/c unit, and any other damage they discover while in there. The bumper and hood are also being replaced.
This was bad timing as this was the weekend we should be showing the car to sellers. But instead some guy decided to speed on a wet road going around a bed, lose control and hit me head on. Nice
Any thoughts what we could get on it as a trade in? We're assuming no one would buy it from us directly since it was involved in an accident. We had originally planned to sell it ourselves before the accident happened.
Thanks,
Carrie
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I hope everyone is ok ......
How bad is the damage.? .. airbags deployed, frame work, new doors.? .. $3,500 - $12,000 .?
Anytime in an accident - you need to be there for the "tear down" with the insurance company ... it could be a lot less -or- it could be a lot more than they think, and you don't want be sitting around the ol' Christmas table when they call and say "hey, we just ordered your parts and we should have it done by St Patty's Day" - when it should have been totaled and your being held at bay by the body shop ........
Terry.
Terry.
re: warranty refund - well, it is a Disco, so yep it has been used. Thanks goodness we had it though. A mere 3 weeks after we bought it was put in to action!
Advertising in the AJC and autotrader, both in print and online. Started out too high but have lowered a few times.
It's at $17K now and the lowest one in either pub. Sounds like we need to scrape up more cash and cut it some more.
Have a great weekend.
Location: NW of Boston, MA
Year/Make/Model:01 Volvo XC
Body Style: Wagon - AWD
Engine: 5cyl, 190hp turbo, auto w/manual option
Driveline: AWD
Mileage:44500
Color: black/tan leather
Major Options: loaded
Condition:
very good condition - couple very minor door dings
Tires - Pirelli's - 50%
Brakes - no problems
Maintenance - oil changed every 3k, maintained by Volvo dealer
Other: no damages
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In the land of the Patriots .... we have an 01 Volvo XC, miles are low for the year, color is good for the area and you say it has all the stuff (slider.? cold pack.?) ... if this is a clean one, no paint experiments, no Popeyes chicken in the seats, no curb burners, no Swirlomatic car washes, just a nice/clean "I need nothing" XC .. depending on the dealer, trade side, in and around the super ultra tall $17's, low/mid $18's, might "maybe" could find a dealer to drop the low $19's in it if it's "jam-up" and needs -0- .. if it needs stuff, start deducting ....................
The 03 Murano, is it a AWD, 2wd..? if it's the AWD, super nice and super clean with (gulp) 53 klicks, then the dealer might have paid in and around the $19ish figure, add a this and that, maybe $20ish, but who the heck is looking for 50k 2 year old vehicles.? .... the Volvo is worth almost as much, and would see a whole lot more down Retail Rd, XC's are in demand ............................... :^}
Terry.
Have you tried Home Depot yet.? .. I think they are having a sale on potting soil ............
Terry.
Just a question- was considering a 2001 540i this weekend, and dealer offered me 14K on my car (Chicago)-
2000 Lexus GS400 (V8) Platinum Package w/60K miles- Loaded, black/black, Nakamichi, immaculate, no dings, fully dealer serviced, all records, no paintwork or accidents, back seats like new (no one's ever sat back there), etc.
I looked online and no one's asking for < 22K on such a car (as a seller), and Edmunds/KBB says trade is >20K. After walking out, dealer now calling me back today to talk. What's my car worth on trade? THANKS!
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$14 ...? as in $14,000 dollars..? might that be American money ..?!?!
Lets take a look while Auburn gets wound-up ..... In Chi-town we have a 00 Lexus GS400, it's the Platinum deal, we have low miles for the year, color is good for the area, we have the Nak .. if it's nice, Clean, knee deep in rubber, no whacked out car washes, service is from yesterday, no paint, no I drove over my neighbors tree stuff .... if so, the Lex is worth in and around the low/mid $18's, maybe "might" could, on a wonderful, lucky and a glorious day find a dealer that would drop the low low low $19's in it ...... $14,000 - ?!?!?! .... did this guy have lots of tattoo's and those funny little cigarettes on him..? .. even if your ride needed new rubber, service, a touch here and there, at least $17,5 ---- $14,000 ..?!? was this thing floating in the Everglades ...................
The 540's are nice vehicles, I just sold a loaded up 01 "baby doll" (auto) with 22k and all the junk (including the kitchen sink) for $35,9 ..... you should be trading for your vehicle and "aroundish" the $18ish figure ...... $14..?!? -- Yikes ..!
Terry.
You need to be looking at one thing and one thing only -- the *Difference* figure, your car and "X" amount of bucks .... $14, now $16,5 ..? .. either your vehicle is in the "rough" catorgory and you won't admit it, or the guys your talkin' with are in the "rough" category and they won't admit it ...............
Terry.
Got a unique one here:
Beautiful Norman, Ok (OKC) - Home of the Sooners!
01 Chrysler Sebring LXI 2 DR Coupe
3.0V6/ 5-Speed Shifter
49,000 rounds
Candy Red/Tan Leather
17" Machined Alloys, Power Roof, In Dash Changer, Infinity Sound
One small scratch on rear bumper, probably easily air brushed by lot fairy. One small door dent (Quarter Size), easily pdr'd.
80% tires, good brakes and everything else.
Thinking about giving it to the stealerships in return for a new 05 Pathy. How bad will my head be taken off.
Thanks,
Racingjay
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Sooners ..? .. after last night, you guys should be brought up on murder charges .. 40 something to 3 ..? Colorado will never be the same .............. ;^)
It's a El Coupe' Sebring LXI, V6. and wow, it's a handshaker .l.o.l.. it's like those A8 Audi's with no leather and no slider, feeew and far between in the universe, you can find Martians quicker -- this one has the slider, miles are just ok, a cut and snip here and there, tires are good .... trade side, you should be seeing the super tall $6's, low low $7's, might get some crazy Sooner fan to drop the high $7's if his money was on the points, maybe .....
Terry.
- Miles: 48,000
- Color: Dark Green
- Automatic 4 speed transmission
- ABS brakes
- CD player (single disc)
- Power Moon Roof
- Alarm and Keyless Entry
- Power windows/locks
- Tilt Wheel
- Cruise Control
- Driver & passenger front air-bag
- Original Honda floor Mats
- Interior Clean (no major blemishes)
- Original Paint in great condition with a few scratches on passenger door. No dents.
- Tires 50% with 3 original and 1 replaced (had a flat a few years ago)
- All dealer scheduled Maintainance until 30,000 mile checkup and all oil changes at 3,000 miles.
- Warranty replaced: Muffler
- Condition: clean to above average
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Great description, but you forgot one thing -location, so I looked at your last post, Detroit ...... killing me ..........
00 Honda Civic EX coupe' .. we have 48 klicks, no-sale green, abs, serviced, tires are ho-hum, auto and you say it's in pretty ok shape ... trade side, in and around the mid/high $7's, might "maybe" get a dealer to drop the low low low low low $8's in it after the Pistons last Faux Pa, but I doubt it ........
Terry.
I went back to the dealer yesterday and they through out $17k as the trade value on the Volvo -sell price $22k on the 03 Murano SE/loaded/AWD w/"gulp" 53k - it is MINT though.
I told them forget it and they came back with this deal: Brand new 04 Murano SL AWD, loaded (leather/cold pkg/bose stereo/roof/etc...)... they'd pay off the remaining payments on the Volvo (I'd take the $$, get the inspection done and turn back into the original selling volvo dlr) - and I could lease the brand new 04 Murano for $430/mo for 42 mo's (+ tax - 15k miles/yr which works for us - 3 leases so far and 15k always seems to work) with $2k down (cap cost red). Worth looking at?, or should I just relax and hold off for a while? Thanks for your help....AGAIN!
Ride the Volvo out and grab an 05 something in the spring .................. :^)
Terry.
The sound system in the BMW comes from the "40i" part of "540i"... Just turn the radio off and floor it..
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That's why I'm asking you guys. I can't find this good of a deal anywhere. Most 2000's are going above this price up to the mid 16's.
It is black with ivory leather interior with factory lexus chrome rims. Don't know if it has the VSC option, they don't know, they don't even know if it comes wit HID lights. They also don't know the difference between the coach edition and normal es300. I tried knocking them down to 9500 or 10,000 but they're not having it. Not $1 lower can I negotiate with these pricks at lexus in MD.
Would anyone mind giving me their 2 cents? Thanks
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Location: Sunny (rainy today) Santa Monica
Year/Make/Model: 99 Discovery S1
Mileage: 59k
Color: [exterior/interior] Oxford Blue / Beige
Major Options: no sunroof or moonroofs, dinky stereo cd
Condition:
Pretty Good condition, no damage inside or out
Tires - new or % worn pretty new
Brakes - unknown
Maintenance
Other: none known
What do you think? Is it worth $12k? Is the new 2005 LR3 going to kill the value even more in the near future?
2003/Volvo/S60 (base sedan)
4dr Sedan
base engine with auto trans
29,000 miles
Black metallic
Premium Package (leather, moon roof, auto temp control, power seat), heated seats, rain sensor wipers, headlamp wipers, single cd,
All Maintenance work done up to date, tires 50% worn, brakes will be new by trade in,
Exterior is perfect as just returned from body shop (gtd all parts replaced with brand new parts no repairs, done by Volvo), involved in accident $12,000 damage front passenger side (new hood involved),
Was offered $16,000 as trade in due to accident, is this all it's worth now?
>>Is it worth $12k? Is the new 2005 LR3 going to kill the value even more in the near future?
The other thing I don't understand is that the used car manager at the Lexus dealer kept saying stuff like, "I'll have to make some calls on your car", and "if I give you 16.5K, I'll end up eating $500, so that's all I can give you, etc". Considering my GS doesn't need reconditioning, does that mean he can only get $16-17K for it retail even though he's asking $25K for the same car on his lot? And what does he mean by making calls? The GS400 is his bread and butter- shouldn't he know his own market? He's a Lexus dealer! Please enlighten me
kyfdx- you're right, the 540i sounds fantastic. But so does the Mark Levinson system. Just depends on your mood-
Terry.
Terry - if I may:
hfang, you have a 60K 2002 GS400. By calls, the dealers plans to wholesale it out. He doesn't want a 60K Lexus on his lot no matter how good it looks. He can't certify it. The other units in his stock have 20-40K less miles and are a year newer. Nothing against your car, he just doesn't want to resell it on his lot.
robr2- I don't think he's going to wholesale it. It's in great shape, always maintained by lexus (documented), and the car I'm considering on his lot is a 2002 LS430 with 61K as well. In addition- his GS's have between 30-60+K miles as well (mine's a 2000 GS400 w/60K), and he has several 97-98-99 ES/GS/LS as well- all with similar or higher miles, ON HIS LOT! So I don't see why he'd wholesale mine but keep the others. He has plenty of cars (as do other nearby Lexus dealers) that aren't certified. Is he playing the wholesale/auction card when he really intends on selling it himself- to maximize profit (no offense!)- because he has plenty of vehicles on the lot, older and higher miles, non certified, in significantly lesser condition than my GS-
BTW, he wants $33.3K for his 2002 LS430/61K miles with Custom Lux package- in good shape, one owner, no accidents/paint, fully serviced. Silver/black. Not certified. Hows about them apples?
Here's the deal .. it's December and not too many Yankee dealers are going to be putting blood money into any vehicle .. you have to remember, they are thinking 60/90 days in advance, so in their mind: "whats this bad boy gonna be worth in the middle of February.?" ..... if he ran it through the Milwaukee/Chicago auctions right now, he would see the tall $17's, low low low $18's, and thats ~if~ it's puuuurfect, Glows in the Dark, seats are hovered in, waaay deep in rubber, etc etc - plus, he has less than 2 weeks to do it .. so I would assume he would drop the super ultra tall $16's, low $17's in it for safety ...
But, the bottom line is: he likes his inventory better than yours .. ego just confuses people, so you just need to go shop around and find a different dealer .. trying to figure out the "what", the were and the when of this, is a mute point .... move on .............
Terry.
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Location: Sunny (rainy today) Santa Monica
Year/Make/Model: 99 Discovery S1
Mileage: 59k
Color: [exterior/interior] Oxford Blue / Beige
Major Options: no sunroof or moonroofs, dinky stereo cd
Condition:
Pretty Good condition, no damage inside or out
Tires - new or % worn pretty new
Brakes - unknown
Maintenance
Other: none known
What do you think? Is it worth $12k? Is the new 2005 LR3 going to kill the value even more in the near future?
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For starters, a new body style doesn't guarantee "anything" ~ as in nothing ... I love all those crazy posts that people drop from all over the Edmunds site - "I bet I can steal the that old body style ES300 cuz' the new one comes out in 2 months" - "I bet I can grab the old body Honda Accord EX V6 for pennies cuz' the new body has been out for 3 months" - "I'm sure I can buy an old body Ody for $5,000 under invoice, because the new ones are out" - the funny part is, they believe it, until you read their same posts 4/5 months later and they haven't gotten anywhere in a big fat hurry .................. :^) ... there is a big money spread between the new ones and the pre-owned, so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it .......
But I digest - (I think it's gas) ...
This little dudette is a 99 S1, we have 60k, we have the no-sale blue thing going on, no slider, no toys, not much of a description here ....... $12,0 ..? .. thats a pretty fair price --- IF ~ you live in Mongolia ..... dealer might have paid the the the super tall $6's, maybe the low $7's, maybe added some rubber, maybe some service, maybe some cup holders, so lets figure it hits the table at the low low $8's ... a fair price for both would be the super high $9's, low $10's ........... $12,000 .? I have this watch, now, it looks "just like" a Rolex ....l.o.l......
Terry.
I still haven't replaced my '03 TL-S. I'm trying to save some money by buying something cheaper. A friend of mine has been looking for something around $12k at Manheim, PA and Bordentown, NJ auctions. Unfortunately, it's been raining every auction, and like you mentioned in an earlier post, he doesn't like to buy anything in the rain.
This seems like the best time of the year to get a good deal at the auctions. After Fridays Manheim auction my friend suggested an '04 Mazda6i. The Mazdas seem to have come down to my price in the past several weeks. I'd prefer a V6, but I'm thinking I'd be happier in a 4 cyl Mazda6 then a Taurus SES 24V. Any suggestions on '04s for around $12k - $13k, maybe '03's. I like the idea of having the factory warranty.
I'm interested in your thoughts on the following as a trade-in:
Location: Germantown, MD
Year/Make/Model: 2002 VW Passat W8
Body Style: 4dr
Engine: 4.0L 8 cylinder, 5 speed auto
Driveline: AWD
Mileage: 43750
Color: Silver/Black leather
Options: All standard options (let me know if you need these listed) + VW 6 disc CD changer and LoJack
Condition:
Interior - clean
Exterior - some dings (license plate circles) and several light scratches on rear bumper, a couple of light scratches on doors (I park in a parking garage everyday)
Tires - not sure how much they are worn, what's a good way to find out?
Brakes - I don't have the numbers from my last service, but FWIW I was told that the front brakes looked good and the rear brakes need to be looked at in about 5000 miles.
Maintenance - All scheduled maintenance performed by dealer, including the 40k service.
I was offered 17,500 by a dealer (which eventually went up to 18,000). CarMax offered 18,000 yesterday, with all of their indicators showing "consistent for its age".
Thanks,
Lawrence
I need your help.
Here is a vehicle that I am posting for a co-worker. His lease on this vehicle is up in a month or two and he wants to know what it is worth. He has received a buy-out offer (did not provide it to me) and wants to know what he could buy a similar vehicle for it. Obviously, he will buy the vehicle if the numbers make sense but ...it is a T&C.
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Location: Chicago, IL (Western Suburbs) Year/Make/Model: 2001 Chrysler Town & Country LX
Body Style: Mini Van
Engine: 3.5 liter, 6 cylinder, auto
Driveline: Front Wheel Drive
Mileage: 46,000
Color: Forest Green Metalic (ext)/ Gray (int)
Major Options: CD player, rear air, power sliding side door (p/s) and tailgate
Condition: Good
Details of interior and exterior, including dings, scratches etc.- 3 typical door dings, interior is in good shape, carpets need a shampoo job
Tires - 50 % worn
Brakes- New
Maintenance- Good mechanical condiition
Other: Indicate prior damage/insurance claims, repaints, etc.- None
8 cyl, 106K miles, red exterior, tan leather interior
A/C, ps, pw, pl, tilt wheel, cruise, AM/FM Stereo CD, dual front air bags, ABS, power seats, rear spoiler, alloy wheels
Exterior and interior in excellent condition, just some color fading on the bumpers, new tires & brakes, up to date on all maint., no other body or paint work
by the way, can anyone locate that post about domestics that are old and over 100K miles?? I searched, but I'm not having luck. That one should be linked at the bottom of that "suggested information to include in your post" below.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Back in the car market, and moving from lurker to poster. Dropped you an e-mail since the subject was off topic. Thanks for keeping up the good work here, and for always keeping it entertaining.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Thanks for your input a few weeks back regarding my A8. In my search for a new vehicle, the dealer appraisals on my trade have been ALL over the map- 10.5k all the way up to 14,500. I KNOW the 14,500 is amiss, because the purchase price of the new car was not discounted similar to other dealers.
Anyway, I'm not asking for another opinion on my vehicle's worth- I think you pegged it pretty good the first time. My question is this-
What is the standard deduction per mile on a car using Galves? I've been told both $.15 and $.20. I'm 30k over the "limit", so it makes a nice bit of difference. It also seems that this is the book that they all pull out when I discuss my trade- I guess the numbrs are extra-tiny so we can't seem 'em from across the desk
Thanks!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Here in NJ, I've found many of the luxury brand dealers quoting me their prices. Maybe a combination of the fact they are lower than the other publications in terms of pricing and the fact that their numbers are not easily obtained by the public?
You are doing the right thing by checking as man sources as you can (NADA, KBB, Edmunds online, and of course our man Terry), and shopping to multiple dealers. If you are seeing a consistant price range, figure that is what your car is worth as a trade in (aka wholesale).
Take the best offer in the range, sell it yourself, or keep it, which ever one works for you.
Just remember, if you trade, "the only difference is the difference" (unless of course you are in some funny sales tax state, then how the allocate the numbers might make a difference to your total cost).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
However, if someone is going to specifically quote a publication and tells me that his # is garnered directly from that (with slight modifications, of course, due to the actual condition of the vehicle)- well, then I would like to know what the standard practice is.
If someone's giving me "Galves has you at 18k, with a 6k deduction for miles driven, and that's what I can pay you", I'd like to know if he's bumping his # on the mileage.
I'd prefer the honest approach that I do find with several dealers where the used car manager gives me his price, explains his reasoning in an honest fashion when it is expectedly below my dream offer, and we go from there.
But, that said.. any dealer who is pulling out the book to give you a number is not being straight with you, anyway.. Any dealer that really plans on buying your car will check the current auction reports, or call another local dealer to get a wholesale offer for your car..
The book is just a sales tool... when being used to make a sale..
regards,
kyfdx
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