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  • icedog97icedog97 Member Posts: 141
    Just throwing this one out there again...I have seen about 8.4K on Kbb and up to 10.4K on nada (on line guides of course)...btw, brand new rubber (within the last month) on all 4 wheels.

    Looking for Trade-in value..
    2001 Nissan Altima SE (sedan)
    Pittsburgh, PA (15136)
    Automatic, 2.4 liter, 4 cyl (155 hp I think)
    36K miles
    White, tan cloth interior, Alloy wheels, spoiler
    pwr windows/locks, cc, pwr sunroof, 6 cd changer

    EXCELLENT condition inside and out...well taken care of (garaged).

    Thanks!
  • dkuhajdadkuhajda Member Posts: 487
    Boss is off the rest of the week and I am looking at a car, private party. Something doesn't look right on it. 2000 Daewoo Nubira, don't tell me that the nameplate is what doesn't look right, it is cheap.

    KLAJB82Z4YK540614

    Thanks
  • bimbalasbimbalas Member Posts: 5
    dkuhajda> Here's ur report:

    ALERT! Severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 2000 DAEWOO NUBIRA CDX (KLAJB82Z4YK540614). This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.


    CARFAX Talking CarTM
    The story of this 2000 DAEWOO NUBIRA CDX (KLAJB82Z4YK540614) according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
    Blue Arrow This station wagon has had 2 owners and was owned in Indiana. The first title for this station wagon was reported to CARFAX by an Indiana DMV in 2001.
    Blue Arrow It was severely damaged and issued a Salvage title by an Indiana DMV. It was later issued a Rebuilt title by an Indiana DMV, which allows for the vehicle to be repaired and returned to the road.
    Blue Arrow It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
    Blue Arrow It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 23,772 miles per year, which is higher than the industry average of 15,000. The last odometer reading, reported on 07/24/2003, was 48,522 miles.
    Blue Arrow It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).
    Blue Arrow Its original manufacturer warranty was voided after it was severely damaged.
    Blue Arrow Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and a glossary of terms.
    08/07/2001 3,141
    04/04/2002 22,831
    09/11/2002 33,879
    10/30/2002 35,876
    11/29/2002 38,595
    07/24/2003 48,522
    07/09/2001 Indiana
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Waterloo, IN
    Registered as
    personal vehicle
    07/31/2001 Service Facility
    Vehicle serviced
    Engine serviced
    Lubed oil and filter changed
    08/07/2001 3,141 Indiana
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Waterloo, IN
    Title #01006152009
    Title issued or updated
    First owner reported
    Loan or lien reported
    04/04/2002 22,831 Service Facility
    Vehicle serviced
    09/11/2002 33,879 Service Facility
    Vehicle serviced
    Brakes serviced
    Engine serviced
    Lubed oil and filter changed
    10/30/2002 35,876 Service Plan Co.
    Waterloo, IN
    Service Contract Issued
    11/29/2002 38,595 Service Facility
    Vehicle serviced
    07/24/2003 48,522 Indiana
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Indianapolis, IN
    Title #03208511391
    New owner reported
    SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
    07/31/2003 Indiana
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
    09/27/2003 Indiana
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Connersville, IN
    Title #03030174023
    REBUILT TITLE ISSUED
    09/30/2003 Indiana
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    REBUILT TITLE ISSUED

    Good luck!
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    If you read the Roundel, it seems the bmw auto. transmissions don't last forever. If it was me,
    I'd probably look for a stick if buying a high milage bmw. You could also post your questions on Roadfly.org--on the E36 board; you might get a lot of good feedback......
  • driftracerdriftracer Member Posts: 2,448
    Run away!!!
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ... ** It was severely damaged and issued a Salvage title by an Indiana DMV. It was later issued a Rebuilt title by an Indiana DMV, which allows for the vehicle to be repaired and returned to the road** ...

    This is a wild and crazy guess .. but I have a feeling that I would pass on this one ........................ ;)

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .. **Hi,
    I'm thinking of purchasing a 1998 BMW 328iS coupe,6cyl,4speed automatic overdrive and with 150000 miles ..for 6000-6500$(Kelly Blue Book value 8200$)...is it a normal deal considering high milage of the car..what things I should look at before buying it?What major problems this car can have because of it's high milage?It's an individual selling this bimmer,I'm going to look at the car on saturday,checked carfax everything seems ok,owner has all the maintenance records,he's the second owner and was doing most of the highway miles from home to work.Does anyone have any experience in buying a high milage bimmer?Any suggestions?** ..
    ===================================

    1998 BMW 328iS coupe,6cyl,4speed automatic overdrive and with 150000 miles ..

    He's asking the right money considering he was probably offered $3,0/$4,0 from a dealer down the street .. that said, it's a 150,000 mile Bimmer and they can cost a zillion dollars just for a power window repair ..... can we spell pass.?

    Save some $$ and find yourself a nice one with low miles and a CPO and move on ...

    Good luck and let us know how things go ...

    Terry.
  • manamalmanamal Member Posts: 426
    Terry,
    This is a repost. Either you missed it, you don't like me, or you don't like saabs.

    I am looking at the following car:
    Location: Washington DC area
    2001 Saab 9-3 SE
    4dr hatch
    2.0L HOT turbo (205 HP)
    22K miles
    Steel grey out, tan leather in
    Auto
    Sunroof
    Power everything
    Premium Sound
    Clean with all maint. records

    No major dings, new rubber and brakes

    I am trying to find out what the dealer probably has in this. Salesperson claimed 16500. Given TMV and KBB values, I think it would be more like 12K.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Well .. I don't like Saabs, I don't like you - and I missed it on purpose, so there -nah.! ..l.o.l...

    Anytime your getting missed, just repost and repost again if I don't hook up in about 24hrs .. you know me, I have the attention span of an aspharugus .. in about a week, you will be on your own cuz' me and the g/f are going back to Costa Rica for a few days for a little r and r ....

    Anyveeey ..... in DC we gots this 01 Saab 9-3 SE 4dr with the lift, super smokin' 2.0 Turbo (yawn, by the time that turbo kicks in it will be Spring) we gots them Itsy Bitsy miles, good color for anywhere, auto thing is a good thing, power pack, slider, tunes, serviced, and we have new stoppers and round things ....

    (CPO.?) -- If ~ the history is right and nothing is wrong .. then I think your "right on" this one .. dealer might have dropped the low/mid $12's in it, might have gone psychotic and dropped the low low low low low low $13's in it because of the miles, plus the DC area is whacko for these types .. so lets go nuts: $13 in it, a little this and that and it hits the table in the tall $13's ... fair for both.? $15,9 and $16,5 on the Retail side, and $16,9 would be the EOW - (end of the world) .... add $1,200 for a CPO ...

    I think $16,5 is the conversion rate between Belgium and Madagascar ..

    Let me know ............ :)

    Terry.
  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    Anytime your getting missed, just repost and repost again if I don't hook up in about 24hrs ..

    Ok, I am taking your advice. This is a repost of a repost.

    Terry ,
    Your opinion on this as a trade or down retail road.

    Location: Philadelphia
    Year/Make/Model:2002 Dodge Durango SLT
    Body Style: 4 Door wagon
    Engine: 4.7l ,5 speed Automatic
    Drive line: 4WD
    Mileage:36,500 miles
    Color: Black exterior / Gray cloth interior
    Major Options: Cd , Running boards, 16' alloy wheels,3 rd row seat,power windows & locks,keyless remote
    Condition:
    Exterior has several nicks , but they have been touched up and are not noticeable, Hand washed every week and gets a good detail every 4 mos. ,so no swirlies in the paint.
    Interior gets the same shampoo and cleaning every 4 mos.,no rips but drivers mat is a little worn.

    Tires - 100%,just replaced this week with new original equip. Goodyears.
    Brakes - Less than 6,000 miles on new rotors. Pads are still good.
    Maintenance - oil changed every 3k, 30k service is done, everything done by the book, and Ball joint recall has been taken care of.
    Other: No accidents or repaints.It has been well taken care of both mechanically and appearance wise.

    Because I am starting to put on more miles per year than previously , I am going to down size to either a used 2003 Pontiac Vibe or Ford Escape XLT(2wd)with about the same miles, hopefully as even up as possible. Any input on those would be appreciated.

    Thanks again.
  • manamalmanamal Member Posts: 426
    They are asking 18,999 on the SAAB. It is not CPO (I do not care about that because I only drive about 8-10K/yr). I will offer 15,000, and see what happens.
  • dkuhajdadkuhajda Member Posts: 487
    It just seems strange that anyone would bother putting a Daewoo salvage back together to make a rebuilt car.

    What would it be worth retail side in the first place, $2500 non-salvage? Why bother.
  • gosoxgosox Member Posts: 12
    Thanks for the info Terry. As usual you were right on the money (pardon the pun) on my trade value. I did the deal last night (traded for an '05 Accord) and got $8,700 in trade for the Passat.

    You're the best!
  • jlawrence01jlawrence01 Member Posts: 1,757
    And I thought that parts were imposible to find for those beasts ... unless you found a dealer with an unsold one ...
  • cheezhedcheezhed Member Posts: 44
    Repost. Any thoughts on my post #25323?

    Thanks.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,330
    You almost answered your own question. because it was worth so little, it probably didn't take much damage to have it totalled. So, maybe it was a relatively minor (non-structural) repair that someone could do cheap (say a new fender and a quicky respray).

    Not that I would want one, but I would be more afraid of an expensive car with a salvage title, because it takes a lot more damage to total a Porsche then an old bomber.

    So, something like the Dwoo (maybe a Hyunkia would be a better example), if it checked out (and you knew what was done), and could be had dirt cheap, might be a viable option for a second car/student/etc., that needs ultra cheap but reliable trans. Just don't expect to finance or have much resale.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • jlawrence01jlawrence01 Member Posts: 1,757
    Terry and others:

    I really need a price on this vehicle. This is an unusual situation. 9 year old very low mileage truck located in Provo UT. I want a fair price so that I don't have to transport the sled all the way back to Chicago...

    1996 Dodge Ram Pick-up
    2500HD 4x4 Regular

    Claret Red Pearl Coast
    Prem Cloth 40/20/40 Bench Quartz

    Heavy Duty Service Group
    136 Amp Alternator
    750 Amp Battery
    HD Engine Cooling
    Aux.Transmission Oil Cooler
    Skid Plate Transfer Kit

    Trailer Tow Group
    Class IV Trailer Hitch Receiver
    Adapter Plug

    HD Snow plow prep
    Extra-duty front suspension and sprongs

    Laramie SLT Advantage Package
    Radio – AM/FM/ Cassette
    Bright Bumper
    Overrail bedliner
    8800# GVW Group

    Air conditionng
    4 speed Auto Transmission
    5.9L Magnum V8 MPI Engine
    Rear Axle 4.09/4.10 ratio

    Front tires new; rear tires worn
    New brakes
    Several scratches on the rear quarter

    Includes a snow plow and salt spreader

    Mileage 17,800
    Located in Provo UT.
  • makaimakai Member Posts: 3
    How accurate are the trade-in numbers that you get from Edmunds or KBB in regards to the actual amount a dealer will give you? These sites suggest that my trade is worth 15K at the dealer. If I sell it myself, 20K. I'm happy with the 15K figure, but I think that it is in the dealer's interest to try offer a lower amount for the trade than they might be willing to pay. Should I hold out for the figure I get online, or is it unrealistic?
  • benderofbowsbenderofbows Member Posts: 542
    Hmm, books suggest 15K trade, 20K retail... Sounds like my '04 Explorer, lol... what are you driving? Post all of the vehicle info on here and you'll get a realistic value.
  • dbauerdbauer Member Posts: 416
    post your info. based on the format in red just above the text window.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,440
    Hmm.. my text isn't red today.. anyone else?

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  • dbauerdbauer Member Posts: 416
    oops...it used to be. hmmm
  • icedog97icedog97 Member Posts: 141
    One last shot with this one...

    I spoke to a dealer today (same Chevy dealer that sold me the Altima - used of course) and their first offer was 8 even. I mentioned to him that I paid close to 12 for the car 7 months ago. I told him I was hoping for in the 9's...he said he would check on it and did not get back to me.

    Looking for Trade-in value..

    2001 Nissan Altima SE (sedan) - Pittsburgh,PA
    Automatic, 2.4 liter, 4 cyl (155 hp)
    36K miles
    White
    tan cloth interior
    Alloy wheels
    spoiler
    pwr windows/locks, cc
    pwr sunroof
    6 cd changer
    new rubber on all 4 wheels (1 month old)

    EXCELLENT condition inside and out...well taken care of (garaged).

    Thanks!
  • dkuhajdadkuhajda Member Posts: 487
    Just an FYI, the car cannot be rated excellent, it is simply too old. Maybe very good condition. It is not even a one owner now. You bought it used. I'm seeing within 200 miles of you dealer asking prices on similar with ~40K of $9,995 to $11,500.

    BTW why are you trying to trade it in so soon?
  • icedog97icedog97 Member Posts: 141
    Ok then..."very good condition"..it has a build date of 05/01, so it is not quite 4 years old yet.

    It is a very clean car. When I bought it, part of the reason I picked it was because it looked like it was just brought home from the showroom. It has a few small paint chips that you would expect from normal driving but it is dent/scratch free and very clean.

    Anyway, if I had my choice I would not be looking to trade the car in...unfortunately, financial situations change and I am looking to reduce expenses (monthly car payments being a part of that of course).

    I was set to sell it myself, but decided to check with local dealers first...and that's why I posted here.
  • makaimakai Member Posts: 3
    San Jose California
    1991 Porsche 911 Carrera 4
    2dr
    3.6 liter 6 cylinder manual
    AWD
    100K
    White/Beige-Black
    Excellent condition interior & exterior
    Excellent mechanical condition
    all maintenance records
    all original
  • dkuhajdadkuhajda Member Posts: 487
    At least you have some ballpark dealer asking prices available for SE with ~40K of $10K to $11.5K. Figure the dealer will have a few hundred dollars extra mark up to overallow for someones trade in, $10K-$500=$9,500 out the door. Plus they expect to make some profit, 10% and your can see why $8K may be a realistic trade value.

    We never do cars this new so you need to keep reposting and hope Terry catches it to get his expert opinion on trade values.

    I just can't see taking the $3K+ hit on trading it in no matter what the financial situation. You have to drive something, Altimas are very good reliable cars.

    Can the bank help? I've seen people totally screw up credit when all they had to do is call the bank. Some banks will allow for a hardship good-will payment reduction for up to six months, with the added amount at the end of the loan or made up with the remaining payments. i.e someone gets laid off from work and is expected to find a job in a couple of months.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,440
    Not that you are in the wrong place.. but, you might also post this here:

    jwilson1, "All Things Porsche" #105, 3 Mar 2005 8:24 pm

    Mr. Shiftright might have some salient observations on your Porsche..

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,270
    Altimas are very good reliable cars.

    I second that. Nissan has had some major problems with their new trucks built in Canton, but their cars are neck and neck with Toyota and Honda in the reliability arena.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    One last shot with this one...
    I spoke to a dealer today (same Chevy dealer that sold me the Altima - used of course) and their first offer was 8 even. I mentioned to him that I paid close to 12 for the car 7 months ago. I told him I was hoping for in the 9's...he said he would check on it and did not get back to me.
    Looking for Trade-in value..
    2001 Nissan Altima SE (sedan) - Pittsburgh,PA
    Automatic, 2.4 liter, 4 cyl (155 hp)
    36K miles
    White
    tan cloth interior
    Alloy wheels
    spoiler
    pwr windows/locks, cc
    pwr sunroof
    6 cd changer
    new rubber on all 4 wheels (1 month old)
    EXCELLENT condition inside and out... well taken care of (garaged).
    Thanks!
    =========================

    In Steelers territory .... we have a 01 Nissan Altima SE, auto, 36k, good color combo, wheels, spoiler, slider, new round things and you say it's in pretty nice shape ..

    If, it looks/feels and drives like an 04, serviced and no secret meetings at Maaco .. then trade side, in and around the super ultra tall $7's low/mid $8's, might "maybe" find a dealer to get real brave and waddle towards the $9 figure ... the short miles and the deep rubber save this one ..

    Happy hunting and let me know....

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ........ THANKS for the update.. I appreciate that ....... :)

    Enjoy the new ride ......

    Terry.
  • manamalmanamal Member Posts: 426
    Terry,

    On the '01 SAAB 9-3, they would not drop below 18k. They would do 17,500 on an '02. But something did not feel right, so I passed. Also, they claimed that my '02 Camry with 16K is worth $7500.... So no SAAB for me this week.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ........ It's hard to say what the deal is here, but it sounds like they're up to their eyeballs in this dude ..

    Maybe they bought the Saab in August, maybe the SM looked at the book wrong and put the wrong money into it, maybe he's been sniffing Draino - who knows ... but $7,500 for an 02 16k Camry LE .? if it's wrecked with a salvage title, maybe ... but if it's nice, then any dealer could take this dude to any auction in America and get $12,500+ ..

    I don't get any warm and fuzzy feelin' about these guys, it's almost a double slap .. take your time, look around and find another vehicle AND another dealer -- when you find your new rig, copy the paper work, drive to the dealer and drop it off on the owners desk .. sometimes a little reality is needed on both sides ................. :)

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    San Jose California
    1991 Porsche 911 Carrera 4
    2dr
    3.6 liter 6 cylinder manual
    AWD
    100K
    White/Beige-Black
    Excellent condition interior & exterior
    Excellent mechanical condition
    all maintenance records
    all original
    =======================

    Excellent ...? .. wow, thats more of an interpretation than a reality ..... first of all, it's 15 years old and it has 100k, no sun no curb burners no dings no love bugs.? no I scraped the fender in 98 and had Bufords Paint and Bait shop do the work.? I went to Oil Changes are Us for 22,000 miles.? .. all OEM and the Prince of Porsche did all the work and it was covered by a 200 year old Amish hand stitched blanket..?



    Coupe ..... drop top ...??

    Terry.
  • icedog97icedog97 Member Posts: 141
    Thank you to everyone that responded...I appreciate the feedback...

    I'll shop it some this weekend (hopefully) and see what happens...
  • manamalmanamal Member Posts: 426
    Terry wrote:
    ........ It's hard to say what the deal is here, but it sounds like they're up to their eyeballs in this dude ..

    Maybe they bought the Saab in August, maybe the SM looked at the book wrong and put the wrong money into it, maybe he's been sniffing Draino - who knows ... but $7,500 for an 02 16k Camry LE .? if it's wrecked with a salvage title, maybe ... but if it's nice, then any dealer could take this dude to any auction in America and get $12,500+ ..

    I don't get any warm and fuzzy feelin' about these guys, it's almost a double slap .. take your time, look around and find another vehicle AND another dealer -- when you find your new rig, copy the paper work, drive to the dealer and drop it off on the owners desk .. sometimes a little reality is needed on both sides ................. :)

    Terry.

    -----
    Thanks for confirming my gut instinct. This is the only SAAB dealer in the Virginia Suburbs of Washington, DC. In Dec '01, I bought a '01 9-5 wagon from them (new). (the car was subsiquently hit broadside by a cady that ran a red light doing 60 mph; everyone walked away). At that time, they offered me 13000 on my trade: a 2000 Accord EXV6 with 30000 miles, and no damage anywhere. I sold that car to CARMAX for 17500.

    For now, what I might do is make the camry into a car I would enjoy. I want better handling. Maybe I will put on larger rims and perfomance tires. That would probably make me hapier with my current ride. Heck, the Camry seems to be bulletproof. And, it gets 32 mpg on the highway!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Err....$15K sounds a mite low but then again this is a very risky car to buy...it's a bad year and it's an extremely complex piece of work. I wouldn't touch this car without having it gone over, by an expert, thoroughly, and then do it over again. I would especially consult with the expert that the inherent problems in the '91s have been corrected.

    If the car passes with flying colors, is in fact really sharp, then yeah, you can offer $15K or if you're dying for it maybe $16-17K. But you'd better have your diagnostic in hand and know what you're doing.

    This is all presuming it's a coupe not a drop top.

    If I were you, I'd buy a '93 on up and not an AWD. It kind of spoils the car IMHO, in terms of feeling like a real Porsche.
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    Lucky you, that the Saab deal didn't work out. Trading an '02 Camry with 16K for a......Saab??? (Whatever the #'s are). I don't mean to be rude, but , have you lost your mind??? A low mileage Camry is "money in the bank"; a Saab=huge depreciation, even if you buy it used.......wait til you've owned a Saab for a few years, & go to try & trade it on a Toyota.......not fun. Think of Nancy Reagan: "Just say No", to trading a low mileage Camry for a Saab........
  • thebigkahunathebigkahuna Member Posts: 83
    Re-post
    Hi Terry, it's trading time again! I'm looking for a dealer trade number on the following; 2004 Jeep Wrangler X, black, 5 speed, 6 cylinder, 8,800 miles, soft top, soft tinted windows, cd, air, sound package, wheel and tire group, no dings or scratches but the spare needs to be fixed. Thanks a million!
    Sonny
  • makaimakai Member Posts: 3
    Mr Shiftright..

    I guess I was not very clear. Maybe my bad. I trying to find out what I should accept from a dealer in trade. Whats the Manhiem auction price? What's fair on a trade in?

    I'm original owner, all maintenance done by Porsche with all records and stamped in the owners manual... It as clean as you can imagine. Nicer than any other 964 I've seen.
    Although the 90-91 years had some issues - I was patient in correcting all of the problems via warranty and TSBs - not that any of this this matters much to a dealer trade. I'm just trying find out it the edmunds and kbb numbers for dealer trade-in value are accurate. They both say about $15k. My concern is that I have gotten a good price on the new vehicle I want, I just don't want to diminish that good price by giving away the trade - getting a low trade in price from the dealer to make up for lost profit on the new car price..

    Terry or royce11 or whatever...

    Sarcastic fellow aren't you? :) Actually all of the work was done by the king of porsche and a was covered with a 300 year old hand stitched amish blanket.

    In reality, it is the third car in my stable, a weekend driver, always garaged. The rating of excellent came from the definitions provided by KBB. The 15k price reflects the "good" rating and a price which would be adequate to put toward payment on the new vehicle. I'm just trying to figure out if that number is realistic to finalize my deal...

    San Jose California
    1991 Porsche 911 Carrera 4
    2dr coupe
    3.6 liter 6 cylinder manual
    AWD
    100K
    sunroof
    all leather
    wheels/mirrors upgraded by Porsche to '93 look
    White/Beige-Black
    Excellent condition interior & exterior
    Excellent mechanical condition
    all maintenance records (porsche stamped)
    all original porsche equipment
    no body damage, no paint problems, no dings, extremely anal owner, and it shows...
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    Touchy.

    Porsche owners are touchy; I've noticed that.

    You are bound to notice it, too, if you try to sell it on the street.

    If you need any help translating Terry-ese into English, just ask. I am fluent in Terryese (and German, and English).

    I'm not trying to be cute, this is simply an odd duck with potential issues and potentially a very, very nice car. Shifty seems to have some good insights.

    The 'Manheim Market Report' hasn't seen any (as in: 0) of these cars in the past month. It's a rare bird alright.

    If you want to get an idea of what it's worth, play nice and answer Terry's question (Coupe/Cabriolet/Targa?) and maybe post a picture or two.

    It's still awfully hard to valuate a car like that.

    Good luck,
    -Mathias
  • moretcmoretc Member Posts: 5
    Western Michigan
    2000 Honda Accord EX-L
    4 door, 4 cylinder, automatic
    Pewter Gray, 1 owner.
    146,000 miles highway (70 miles round trip to work)
    Leather, power seat, side air bags, moonroof.
    Outside has normal paints chips on the front,no dings or dents. Never painted. Maintenance done as scheduled. New floor mats. Got 100,000 miles out of original Michelins and replaced with the same. Clean by Edmunds guidelines.

    Looking for a fair trade in price. Not sure they are even going to want it. Already have a price on a new 05 Accord.

    I put the miles on so fast that it is hard to get anything out of them when I am ready to change every four years even though it is still a great car.

    Thanks for the help.
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    A buddy of mine just bought, in Lansing, a 71k cloth 2000 LX 5sp. From a used-car dealer, for $6,500. Car was silver, just like yours.

    I realize this isn't what you're looking for, but I thought I'd throw it out. It was a nice car, but nothing really special.

    -Mathias
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... Western Michigan, don't you live down the street from Mathias.?

    00 Honda EX 4 banger, auto, a Kazillion miles, 100,000k rubber (is there such a thing.?) slider, good color anywhere and you say it's in pretty good shape for 150K .. so, if it has deep rubber (100k.?), no soccer Mom interior, no Popeyes chicken stuffed in the glove box, no midnight missions at Maaco, no rust and it looks/feels and drives like 50k .. then trade side, in and around the mid/tall $4's, low/mid $5's depending on the dealer and the barometric pressure .. most dealers won't have a home for this one, so Off to the auction it will go, so they have to be into it right ..

    Me personally ~~ down Retail Rd it would go ... finish any service, a visit with the Dukes of Detail, heavy rubber, all the service records stuffed in the trunk, a Fat Daddy Ad that stretches to Ann Arbor - $8,900 *asking* and skip and jump at the first $7,9/$8,5 .... remember, it's a 150k Honda, not a Tiger Woods TAG Heuer, so park the ego - oh yeah, and the books don't count ............... ;)

    Terry.
  • manamalmanamal Member Posts: 426
    Woodyww wrote:

    Lucky you, that the Saab deal didn't work out. Trading an '02 Camry with 16K for a......Saab??? (Whatever the #'s are). I don't mean to be rude, but , have you lost your mind??? A low mileage Camry is "money in the bank"; a Saab=huge depreciation, even if you buy it used.......wait til you've owned a Saab for a few years, & go to try & trade it on a Toyota.......not fun. Think of Nancy Reagan: "Just say No", to trading a low mileage Camry for a Saab........

    I replay:

    Frankly, I should have followed terry's advice when I bought the camry. Buy what you like. I do not enjoy driving the camry. I enjoy driving SAAB's. However, in my area I think they are overpriced (at least at one dealer). I find the camry to be dangerous....why? it is going to bore me to death.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... **why? it is going to bore me to death.**

    Hmm, kinda sounds like my 1st wife ...

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Did your g/f give you that name .?

    Re-post
    Hi Terry, it's trading time again! I'm looking for a dealer trade number on the following; 2004 Jeep Wrangler X, black, 5 speed, 6 cylinder, 8,800 miles, soft top, soft tinted windows, cd, air, sound package, wheel and tire group, no dings or scratches but the spare needs to be fixed. Thanks a million!
    Sonny
    ==========================

    Morning Sonny ... in Delaware, right.?

    We have a 04 Wrangler "X", color is good for ther area, we gots the handshaker deal going on, 4.0, tiny little miles, tunes, breeze and the extra round thingy bob deal .. just a nice Jeepster, no battles at Wendys or Wal-mart, lookin' pretty fresh .... if so, then trade side, in and around the super tall $14's, low low $15's ... depending on the dealer and his current inventory, the meat clever might hold this back ........ whats your pay-off.?

    can we spell: update

    Terry.
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    moretc, would you please send me an email?

    The adress is in my profile (click on 'steine13').

    Thanks
    -Mathias
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... I know I know .. it's cleaner than the Board of Health, and twice as sanitary .....

    **Terry or royce11 or whatever...
    Sarcastic fellow aren't you? :) Actually all of the work was done by the king of porsche and a was covered with a 300 year old hand stitched Amish blanket** ...

    Sarcastic .. me.? ... maybe a bad poker player, perhaps a below average golfer .. but sarcastic.? .. how about if we just say: tongue in cheek ....

    This will all depend on the dealer and the "real deal" condition of the vehicle .. that said, the dealer will wanna be waaaaay back on this one, what saves you here is the location, Left Coasters always pay too much for these types ... trade side, in and around the $14/$17 zipcode and this will depend on the alignment of Mars and Jupiter, and any current Sun Spot activity .. plus you might get some big bucks for that 300 year old Amish blanket .................. ;^}

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ........ Gus .. babe, your killin' me, I answered this waaay back (and I ain't lookin' for it) --- remember "our" little discussion about the Vibe VS Escape..?

    oh well, it's like talkin' to myself ................................ ;)

    Terry.
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