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This would strictly be for retail, as I doubt any UCM would look very kindly at it.
Located in northern NJ.
2000 Toyota Celica GT
2 door hatchback
1.8 DOHC/5 speed
90k miles
White with grey cloth
Only options are floor mats and a rear wiper. Yup, roll-up windows and manual locks. At least A/C and a cassette/CD were standard.
Looks great from 20' away. Up close, more like the almost 6 figure driver it is. Say average in and out. Tires/brakes 50%, New crate tranny courtesy of Toyota, and clutch at 65k. Been run on synthetics since new.
No hits, accidents or repaints.
As always, thanks in advance.
Remanufactured unit replacement estimate is $3,275 from one, $3,045 from another, plus tax. Diagnosis from dealership service is "water in the transmission", which I think is complete bunk. Waiting for an estimate on a rebuild job from another place. Every nondealership mechanic and non-Chrysler sales manager I have dealt with says those trannies go at 70-90k, and they are a terrible design.
On the trade-in offer from the local Lincoln-Mercury dealer, the sales manager offered me $3,000 as is, towed in, or $6,000 trade if the transmisison was fixed. The sales manager said they assume Intrepid's will have a/c and tranny issues - Chrysler has already replaced the tranny once, and the a/c evaporator once on the Intrepid at their cost, and 3 trannies in 67,000 miles compels me to leave the land of Chrysler for good.
They also offered me $1,500 trade for my 1994 Mercury Grand Marquis LS with 117,000 miles that has been so bulletproof, I'm going back to the Grand Marquis. That gives me $7,500 for trade.
Looking to trade it off on a 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis LS Ultimate with 16,000 miles and still under factory warranty - the car literally looks brand new, and the Ultimate has the digital dash, air suspension, etc. The color is I think the "Arizona Beige" with beige leather interior. If I offered them $15,000 in this period of $2.30 a gallon gas, and a glutted domestic used car market, would they laugh in my face? They have no price on it, but their website has it at $16,995, but the dealer is not a "value priced" dealership.
TIA
...we got this 04 2.5 Z4 "Merlot" colored thingy bob... $32,400 ...? he ain't trying to get rich
This against a TMV of $39 less the 2,5 in the new trunk makes the price of driving a shiny new never-before-caressed Z4... $4,5?
"Brand-spanking-new without 9k miles just the way you want it" seems like it'd be worth $4,500....
-Greg
So, supposedly, $39.5K would be the actual purchase price, including the trunk money... That makes the difference $7K...
Not that I pay any attention to TMV... It is a historical reference, and by definition is somewhat out of date...
regards,
kyfdx
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qbrozen, "Real-World Trade-In Values" #27627, 1 Aug 2005 1:43 pm
And here is just the simple summary for ease of navigation .... looking for trade and private sale on both:
'98 S70 T5 automatic, 110K miles, funky coral red
cowskins, slider, bun warmers, etc.
Let's call it fair condition (I like to think its clean for its age, but it does have its share of light scratches). OH, and let's not forget that $2K kiss to one fender a couple years back. But I'm pretty sure I'd try to sell this one myself.
'04 350Z Touring 6-speed, 15K miles, silver over orange leather
"In the wrapper"
THANK YOU!!!!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Terry, we kid because we love.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Specs:
1.8T Manual
FWD
17" Alloy wheels
Pioneer single CD player
45,000 Miles
Hail damage (repair quoted at $1,500 by dent wizard)
Interior is clean.
Tires are about 60% worn.
Went in for maintenance every 5k miles.
Was involved in an accident in 2002. Driver side door completely replaced.
2002 Chevy Silverado
60000 miles
Z71
Extended Cab
LS
Power windows, locks, cruise, cd, trailer hitch
Spray in bed liner
Aluminum rims
In western New York
Thanks.
Omaha, NE
2000 Nissan Maxima SE
Auto
58000 miles
Sunset something (light brown/tan) color
All options expect traction control
Newer tires (1 year old)
new rear brakes (3 months ago)
tranny fluid just flushed/changed ( 1 month ago)
regular oil changes since day one (every 3K; original owner)
average/great condition overall, some carpet stains from toddlers, no major dings/scratches
04 X3 2.5i AWD with CWP, Premium, park distance control, xenon, Premium sound, has 20000 miles, excellent condition inside and small scratch front right bumper, tires excellent. Car is currently on lease but I have changed jobs and am communting farther and don't want to be 20000 miles over at the end of the lease. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
BTW I am in Des Moines IA
There is no practical way water made it into the tranny. Did you drive it like a submarine once? Did you put water down the transmission fill tube?
thank you and hope you can get to this message.
george
'02 Protege5, white exterior, grey cloth inside, auto, ac, cd, normal options. Good condition, 45K, no french fries under the seat. In south florida...
Thanks in advance..:-)
- One that came with the car
- Replacement at 3,000 miles
- Replacement at 67,000 miles.
Rebuild was quoted at $1,798. I called the dealer and made arrangements to get the car towed to the rebuilder. Dealer called back and quoted me a new price $860 lower - I'm assuming they are going with a rebuild now rather than a reman. Throw in the diagnostic, cost of prepping the car for flatbedding (cannot tow a FWD car without the tranny in it), and the tow, and the two prices were virtually identical.
Once I get it back, I'm going to pursue reimbursement, but it is kind of sad - the car drives great, and looks great.
I'm trading her off when I get her back, or I might just sell her and drive the 94 Grand Marquis full time. Kind of sad when a 12 year old car is more reliable than a six year old car.
BTW, any estimate on a fair offer on the before mentioned 03 Grand Marquis?:
Location: Central Ohio
03 Grand Marquis LS Ultimate
16,000 miles
Arizona Beige with Beige leather interior
All power options, including autoclimate, cd player, power pedals, traction control, ABS, etc.
All Ultimate equipment - overhead console, digital dash, rear air suspension, wood and leather steering wheel with audio and climate controls.
No side airbags or moonroof, nor the full size spare.
Condition - looks brand new - has a few short, very light scratch on driver's side that they could touch up for next to nothing.
TIA
You and I both!
So you're saying the "invoice" price listed includes Mrg->Dlr incentives?
TMV... It is a historical reference,
No doubt, though it is possible to drive with the rearview, if you go slow enough
If indeed the incentive goes the other way, the $5k swing makes the deal much more logical...
Thanks,
-Greg
'98 S70 T5 automatic, 110K miles, funky coral red
cowskins, slider, bun warmers, etc.
Let's call it fair condition (I like to think its clean for its age, but it does have its share of light scratches). OH, and let's not forget that $2K kiss to one fender a couple years back. But I'm pretty sure I'd try to sell this one myself.
'04 350Z Touring 6-speed, 15K miles, silver over orange leather
"In the wrapper"
You've helped me buy both of these, and I'm hoping I don't have to sell, but sometimes you gotta make lemonade, right? Maybe it will be time to trade both of these in and pick up that used E320 I've mentioned so many times. My wife says she won't let me get rid of my precious Z because I'd resent her and the new bundle for it, but that's just silly, and, besides, when she sees what day-care costs, I think she'll be singing a different tune.
Oh, by the way, not that I expect a number on this, so I didn't list it, but I'd also be selling my Alfa. Good god. 3 cars for 1. It will indeed be a sad day ... but I'm happy and excited about the kid, so don't get me wrong. A little bad for a lot of good, ya know?
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98 S70 T5 auto .. in the funky reddish pinkish coralish color (actually I like that color) we got some hydes, it's got some tall miles, we got the slider, cold pack and an itty bitty $2,000 repaired kiss that almost matches the rest of the car (at night, without the moon .l.o.l.) ... trade side, in and around the mid/tall $3's, maybe the low low $4's if you can find a dealer with real dark sunglasses on ..... Retail Rd.? blah blah blah and $6,900 *asking* and cut it loose for the first $5,5/$6,5 ........
Z car ....? .. the miles are low, the color is right and you say: "it's walkin' - talkin' - stalking death" ..... if so, then trade side you should be seeing the super tall $23's low low low $24's ............ lets hope you can keep the Z car ....
Let me know ........
Terry.
Please, OH....PLEASE find your way clear to keep the Z. Promise the little lady and munchkin an Ody or Caravan, but.....KEEP THE Z (which in turn will keep you sane). :P
Don't you already have a toy sports car anyway? Sorry to be the voice of reason.
graphicguy - hahaha... you and lemmer are like the angel and devil on my shoulders at this moment. We'll see what happens. We're thinking we can wait until Spring to really decide. Nothing is for sure. If something pops up on the market that really turns my head, who knows? I mentioned on the CCBA board an S60 T5 I saw in Florida... REAL nice. Too bad I don't live anywhere near there. ... or is it too good i don't live there. LOL.
Terry - THANK YOU! appreciate the numbers. That looks real good on both counts. I was estimating $24K private party on the Z... so if that's the trade-in number, than $25K private party should make for a real quick sale ... and since I bought it for $26K, that's not bad rental cost for 6 months of ownership (of course, if you add in taxes ... its a bit worse, but still not bad). I did peg the Volvo for about $5K private ... so I wasn't far off on that.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Invoice is invoice... That has nothing to do with rebates or incentives..
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Year/Make/Model: 1999 Chev Suburban 1500 LT
Body Style: 4Dr
Engine: 5.7 liter Vortec 8cyl
Driveline: RWD
Mileage: 123,000
Color: silver/silver
Major Options: Alloy Wheels 16"/ Leather Everything; 3rd Row Seat; AM/FM/Cass/CD; Running Boards; Tow Pkg; PW/ PDL/ PMirrors/ Rear Air; Keyless Entry; Roof Rack;
Condition:
Exterior: Great Condition - Body dingless, Bumper also, except for slight vertical indentation in rear bumper from a light pole; no chrome scratched..
Interior: Great Condition - Some slight wear showing in driver's seat; no tears or scractches; leather's been conditioned several times over the years, etc., carpet in storage area has a slight stain that we'll probably get removed.
Tires - new ~5k miles ago
Brakes - great; serviced ~10k miles ago
Maintenance - continually at local Goodyear shop since purchased from orig owner (~45k miles in 2001), who maintained it at the dealer; every recommended prev mntnc has been done; few minor things such as Alternator, Battery, Oxy Sensor, etc., replaced rear axle on right side.
Other: No repaints or fixes; rear bumper very slight (almost imperceptible) indentation from light pole or tree. No broken or scratched chrome from this. Nothing else - great shape.
I'd very much appreciate some advice regarding the appropriate trade-in value for our truck. Thanks in advance.
Barbara
2003 Ford Ranger Super Cab 2D XLT
Location: Long Branch, NJ
Color: Arizona Beige Metallic/Tan cloth interior
Engine: V6 3.0 Liter
Trans: Automatic
Drive: 2WD
Mileage: 14,300
Condition: Good overall; Interior clean (no smokers); Original tires still in good condition; A few very minor scratches and dings on body; Regular maintenance has been performed
Optional Equipment: Air Conditioning, Power Windows, Power Door Locks, Tilt Wheel, Cruise Control, Sliding Rear Window, Bed Liner, Keyless Entry System
I can still recall the wife at the time (now, ex-wife) badgering me for a more sensible car when she was nesting. Ended up selling a '67 GTO and a '69 MGB GT, both of which I had personally restored, for a new Taurus (UGH!) to make her happy. The Taurus was her car. I ended up buying a Renault Alliance for my use....that was my 2nd mistake.
2004 Honda Odyssey EX-RES (the RES stands for Rear Entertainment System)
3.5L V6
14.000 miles
Dark gray exterior/gray cloth interior
Options: Power seat, climate control, alloys, CD, factory DVD player, keyless. Usual EX stuff.
Condition: Pretty much like new. May have a couple of small scratches but I haven't seen them. No door dings, no stains, no french fry invasions (that can't be vacuumed out at least), and no accidents.
Mechancial condition: No problems. All maintenance is up to date and the tires are like new with only 14k on them.
Vehicle is in Atlanta.
It is in good mechanical condition (new starter, alternator, radiator, hoses, brakes, distributor, spark plug wires, muffler, and belts. I have many spare parts too... The truck have 240 000km (aproximately 170miles), but the engine have less (aprox. 200kkm) dont burn oil and no abnormal noises (before 4000-4500rpm), the frame is top shape, the transmission is ok, the bed and the floor too, the clutch is a little low but not too, it have a fiberglass box and a plastic box cover
but the body is not in very good condition... it have a lot of rust on the bed's body, all the cab is ok but it needs a new paint anyway, on the interior it have no carpet...
so... if u can estimate the price for me in american $
Thanks, Terry!
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Well, I don't think Terry can be of much assistance on this (terry knows i mean no offense in the least). you have a nearly 20-year-old pickup truck with ... how many miles again? I think that's 170,000? Is this a canadian truck or US? You want US money but give us kilometers ... where does this thing live?
You might get a dealer who would take it on a trade ... then proceed to call the junkyard to come pick it up. Said dealer MIGHT give you a few hundred discount on what you are buying ... but, really, it is just a discount because he won't really be giving you any money for the trade-in.
Let's see ... engine isn't too much younger than the rest of the truck.
If it was 4x4, you might see a bit more ... but it ain't. If it drives well, you might see $500-$750 cash for it from someone who wants to make some Home Depot trips.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
This is a collector's car. He's got that Carlisle show coming up in a couple of months. Tell him to get it ready and get over there. I'd be watching similar cars on Ebay and go from there, personally.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I wasn't sure when the next Ford event was at Carlisle... as a Dodge owner, I usually know when "Chryslers at Carlisle" is, but stopped paying attention to the Ford events when I stopped owning Fords. If she doesn't unload it quickly, I'll recommend taking it there. I haven't seen the Stang myself, or I'd have a better idea... (bad Ford pun intended).
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Thanks, glad to hear it! :P
thx
Like, in the produce aisle?
2003 Murano SL
40,000 Miles
In New Haven Connecticut
AWD
Black Exterior
Black Leather Interior
Moon Roof
Alloys
Bose
Every option except Nav, Sat radio and DVD
Good Condition, no major scratches
Interior Good condition
Tires 40K Old I estimate half worn
New Alternator at 17K miles and a new one on order after the recall
She owes $15,000 on it
Thanks in advance for the help
djocks
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Good Mornin' Djocks ....... so the ol' lady is considering a BMW X5 .? .. she might be better off in that 40k Murano ........
Anyheeee ............. we got this 03 Murano SL .. we got 40k, it's got the 4x4 action, it's black with black guts so the color is good for the area, we got the hole in the roof, wheels, Bozo sound and the rubber is weak ......... if ~ she hasn't backed this dude over the neighborhood fire hydrant, no Swirlomatic car washes, the interior doesn't have that Bonnie and Clyde look and she hasn't had an affair with the Maaco repairman .... then trade side, in and around the low/mid $20ish figure, might maybe "could" see the low low low low low $21ish .. with you living in Connecticut the Galves book will hold this one back ..... $15,000 pay-off.? .. she's in great shape .....
Let me know what happens .....!
Terry.
Year/Make/Model: 1999 Chev Suburban 1500 LT
Body Style: 4Dr
Engine: 5.7 liter Vortec 8cyl
Driveline: RWD
Mileage: 123,000
Color: silver/silver
Major Options: Alloy Wheels 16"/ Leather Everything; 3rd Row Seat; AM/FM/Cass/CD; Running Boards; Tow Pkg; PW/ PDL/ P Mirrors/ Rear Air; Keyless Entry; Roof Rack;
Condition:
Exterior: Great Condition - Body ding less, Bumper also, except for slight vertical indentation in rear bumper from a light pole; no chrome scratched..
Interior: Great Condition - Some slight wear showing in driver's seat; no tears or scratches; leather's been conditioned several times over the years, etc., carpet in storage area has a slight stain that we'll probably get removed.
Tires - new ~5k miles ago
Brakes - great; serviced ~10k miles ago
Maintenance - continually at local Goodyear shop since purchased from orig owner (~45k miles in 2001), who maintained it at the dealer; every recommended pre mntnc has been done; few minor things such as Alternator, Battery, Oxy Sensor, etc., replaced rear axle on right side.
Other: No repaints or fixes; rear bumper very slight (almost imperceptible) indentation from light pole or tree. No broken or scratched chrome from this. Nothing else - great shape.
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Great description - "tanks" ............. in Marietta, we got this 99 2wd half-ton "Burb" LT with the 5.7 V8 ... the miles are tall, the color is right, we got the 3rd seat, hydes, tow pack, boards, new rubber, stoppers and a baby kiss to the transom area ........... no paintwork, no KFC, no battles at Wal-Mart, no soccer Mom interior and Polar breeze ..? .. if it's as clean as you think it is, the service is 110% and it looks/drives and feels like 50k - then trade side, in and around the mid/tall $5's, maybe the low low $6's .. if it needs stuff start deducting ..........
Me personally.? down Retail Rd it would go ... finish any service, super detail, superb 4/5 liner ad in the big paper and $8,950 *asking" and wave bye bye at the first $7,9/$8,5 .......... clean "Burbs" even with big miles and bigger gas prices still get some big $$ ....
Good luck and don't forget the update..!
Terry.
*sigh* I dunno, maybe I'm out of touch .....
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Year 2001, Jeep Cherokee, SE, Red
Mileage: 29, 200 (yep, wasn't driven much by original owner, 18,000 miles on it when purchased 1 year ago).
4.0, V6 Engine
4 Door Wagon, PW, PB, A/C, Power Door, Alarm, AM/FM/Cassette/CD
Tinted Windows, Roof Rack, 4WD
Brand new tires on it, brand new spare - 3 months old, 2,000 miles on them.
Brakes just serviced 2 months ago.
Have all original owner's service records and all of mine. Have Carfax from when purchased (7/04) and it was clean. Purchased new windshied in 8/04 due to crack.
Accident: 2/05 - t-boned a Honda Civic. $3,000 of brand new replacement parts by authorized dealer (who fought the insurance company to get them due to vehicle condition). Back in mint condition, one ding in plastic bumper
Interior - no rips, stains.
Given $8,500 wholesale quote by local Subaru dealer, who said I can probably do better at a bigger dealership. I looked up KBB price also.
Would appreciate any feedback. Nice Jeep, but not working as a daily driver for my new commute and I can't keep it until my 9 year old son is ready for it.
Thanks for any and all replies!
Hey Terry... You helped me on a chevy suburban (97) about 6 months ago and were right in the ballpark of what I got for it. Well, I have another I am debating on selling. Here goes...
Atlanta, Georgia
2003 GMC Yukon SLT
2 WD; 4 door, V8
47,000 miles
White exterior,
Gray leather interior. tow package, roof rack, cd bose system,
Tires 30% left
All dealer maintenance, brakes are fine.
No dings, couple minor scratches, overall good shape in and out. Well taken care of car.
Too hot for golf in this part of the country today, so I am inside doing some research. THANKS
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
2003 Pontiac Vibe GT
FWD
37,000 Miles
Charcoal Gray Exterior w/ Black Interior
Power Sunroof/Moonroof (I do not know the difference but I bet you do)
Alloy wheels, 6 disc in dash CD, Front and side air bags, roof rack
Well cared for and clean, one paint chip on hood that you can actually see and the interior has general wear but in very good shape.
Tires I would guess are around 70%
Thanks in advance!