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Trade in
2000 Saab 9-5 Base Wagon, Silver/Black(cloth), auto, premium sound, newer brakes, new tires, 66,000 miles. Condition is 'clean' there is one dent on the rear quarter wheel well and estimate to fix is $300. All maint is up to date, no accidents, etc.
Buy
Used 2007 Mercedes R320CDI (silver/gray), as new, P1 package (parktronic, panorama roof, harmon-kardon sound, power lift gate, lighting package), full leather, lighting package. 5000 miles on it and super clean, as new. Asking $41,700.
Thanks!
Adam
Ah, so perhaps I should not have posted asking about *buying* in my request? I'm also confused about why no one has offered the information - what I do with that information is at my own peril or benefit, right?
Okay, maybe I can start again with this - sans the "value-added" parts of the original request.
I am looking for the current auction/trade-in data for the following:
Boston, MA/NH/RI Area
04 Acura MDX, Touring
6-Cyl 3.5L V-tech, auto, AWD
Options: NAV/Tow/Running boards
mileage 48-50K miles
Color: Sage/Saddle
No rust or notable wear of exterior paint.
Extremely clean, minor scuffs on bumpers and interior hatch door, all electronics in working order, normal wear on carpet.
Tires: at least 65% left
Brakes: at least 60% left
Clean one-owner title, off-lease.
All manufacturer maintenance followed, records available.
Thanks,
2002 Subaru Legacy L
wagon
2.5l manual trans
AWD
45,000 miles
light green metallic, gray interior
average condition
Extras:
6CD changer
power moonroof
alloy wheels
cargo liner
7/100 Subaru Gold bumper to bumper warranty
The warranty is fully transferable. I have an idea of what it's worth but want to see what the pros say. Trade or private sale, not sure.
I may try to go for the Guaranteed Trade-in Program Subaru has if they offer it on the new 09 Foresters.
The problem is, how much to add?
I sure don't know what to add in dollars on a CPO car, and neither do you.
All you will end up doing is frustrating yourself.
Depending on how well the repair was done.
imbrentwood seems to know. In post #33851 someone asked how much they could buy a particular car for, he writes:
Robbie,
They're doing $26,500-27,500 or so at the auctions.. you ought to be able to buy one for $30k.. possibly less on eBay.
I sure don't know what to add in dollars on a CPO car, and neither do you
imbrentwood probably knows. But, offhand from what I've read in other posts it's probably around 2k. Morgantia wrote the price differences between CPO and non CPO in his initial post.
I've read from others a buyer shouldn't concern themselves with what a dealer has in a car. But, if I'm buying I'd want to know 2 things: 1) how much the dealership paid for "just" the car and 2) market price for the car. I can probably guesstimate the other trivial add ons with very little frustration.
let's assume it is clean and all maintenance up to date.
You know what they say, curiosity killed the chronic car buyer.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Ah but the satifaction of a car purchase brought him back! :P
so, $7-8000 retail
If its all there.
wow. so the Vs hold their value a bit better than the Ss, huh?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
That is a rare beast.
i just went through a vibrating clutch issue with my Honda. They didn't find the problem either, but now it has "resolved itself." Still doesn't feel like it did before the problem, but it almost feels a bit better. I just hope it isn't permanently damaged ... at least not in a way that will manifest before my lease is up.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2003 Buick Rendevouz CX - fwd
Pittsburgh, PA
46,000 miles
no options
gray with light gray cloth
a couple dings nothing major
I am looking to trade on a Licoln MXZ and was wondering what to expect from the dealer. Thanks in advance for the help.
ateixeira, "Real-World Trade-In Values" #34110, 24 Oct 2007 11:16 am
A dealer will not use KBB to offer you a trade-in. You can just forget it, it's not going to happen.
Of course, you can refuse it, you can shop around, you can ask for more.
No price guide is gospel. They are all "ballpark".
If you want "gospel", go to auction prices--this is REAL money spent on REAL cars.
If a dealer checks auction prices and sees say 25 results for your car in the $8K-9.5K range, he certainly isn't going to offer you a KBB price of $11K.
There are RARE cases where trade-in might match KBB I think (back me up you car guys)...when the car is really "hot" in the market and when yours is a perfect or desirable example of same AND the weather is right and the geography is right. The stars would have to all align perfectly.
Don't mean to discourage you, just trying to get real here.
2006 Scion XA
17,300 miles
Auto
PW, PD
Floor Mats, Cargo Mat
Pioneer/Toyota MP3 CD stereo, 6 speaker.
Clean but not outstanding.
Black, not to many visible marks like dark colors normally show.
No mechanical issues or wrecks.
New tires.
Recent full safety inspection, part of 15,000 mile service.
She has another kid on the way and needs something larger.
Wants to trade but I am sure she is upside down a bit, owes $15,825. Has 100K Toyota transferrable warranty if she does private party sale, will get around $500 back if she cancels it.
Private party versus trade values please.
Depending on the values I may want to buy it for myself as these are almost impossible to find used around here. Car is currently in Cleveland area, but could be traded in as far west a Fort Wayne, IN.
Retail asking price on that car is about $12,999, fair market value I think is about $10,900--$11,750 IMO.
I own this very car, so I've researched it some.
She must have bought it with nothing down, would be my guess, to owe so much on it.
I don't know the original deal details though. I do know she has the extended warranty to 100K and GAP insurance. GAP usually runs around $4-600. I will have to have he see if there would be any GAP refund also.
I am hoping somone might have recent auction reports for the car to get a better idea on value.
Hmmm...let me check the San Francisco Toyota dealer asking price, which is usually laughably high anyway....stay tuned...
(later that day...)
Okay I'm back.
They have a very low miles 2006 xA loaded, asking $15488, which I'm sure you could get for $14.5K no problem.
A local dealer near me has a 2006 xA with 16,000 miles for asking price of $13,288.
As for trade, Toyota of San Francisco offered me $8000 on my 2006 xA a few months ago, and another local Toyota store offered to buy me outright for $8,500.
Hope all this helps!
That was about the middle range of auction prices at the time -- say, six weeks ago.
I almost bought it myself, except I hate an auto in a small car.
$15,800 owed is as idiotic as it is hopeless. Only cash will cure this problem.
Why do people do this to themselves???
-Mathias
LOL. Don't hold back--tell us what you really think. :P I'll remember that line tho--almost out of early Woody Allen maybe.
PS-- What did your colleague get for the car?
I meant to put that in of course... that was the whole point of the post... that's pretty dumb.
$10,500 is what he asked, and that's what he got. A lot of car for the money, and had it been a stick, I probably would have bought it.
-Mathias
Thanks in advance for any info on my trade-in value before I go to the dealer...
Location: San Diego, CA
Year/Make/Model: 2004 Toyota Camry SE
Body Style: 4 door sedan
Engine: 2.4L 4cyl, automatic
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: 37,200
Color: Black
Major Options: Sunroof, Spoiler, Alarm, SE Alloy Rims, 4 Wheel ABS.
Condition:
Exterior - small ding on right fender.
Interior - - perfect
Tires - probably at 25%
Brakes - within specs.
Maintenance - All done at Toyota dealer, full records and receipts.
Other: Was involved in small fender bender, Insurance paid to have it professionally repaired at Toyota Certified Collision center - replaced fender and headlight, does not show at all, perfect paint.
Currently owe 7600 on it, has treated us great... looking to upgrade soon!
2.8 L V6
RWD
72026
Gold outstide, beige int
Leather, sunroof, heated seats, cd changer
Inside and outside very clean, no dents or scratches, no wrecks, no bodywork. All regular maint done, tires have good amount of tread left, and brakes are real good.
3 owner car though.
Sure fire sign that the car has been in an accident.
Unmolested, the car is probably an $11-12,000 car.
W/ a replacement fender(what about the Carfax) and obvious bodywork, its probably a $9-10,000 car.
For an 06 that balance still seems high.
2 years in to even a 6 year loan, and that $17k should be down well below $15,800.
The dealer raked her over the coals.
* $1600 is way too much for that warranty because I can get a 7/100 bumper to bumper warranty on my Sienna for $880.
Maybe she had a trade that she was upside down in?
Did she happen to trade in a 0/0/0 Mitsubishi?
Seriously, though, tell her to keep her xA for 10 years at least. Get back on her feet!
Yes, Scions are one price cars.
$13580 Base W/ Auto
$650 side curtain airbags
$120 floor mats
$275 interior light kit
$14625 sub total
$914 tax
$250 Doc fees
$1200 100K 7yr warranty, order included 3/36K dealer maintenance as well but it looked like it was included in the price on the extended warranty.
$600 Gap Ins
$75 Loan cost
Total $17,664
Purchased July 2006
Want to know the catch, 90 day deferred payment plus 72 months of payments @ 9.79% from day 1. <---- Why the dealers can get away with doing that to stupid people I will never know, kind of like the BHPH lots charging 29% interest or something except those people usually have no choice.
I told her to live with the car, or start working the corner in her french maid outfit...It is not like the stuff just won't fit, it will be cramped, but oh well.
Still $5K upside down after warranty and gap refund, one dealer offered $10K, car is pretty much lot ready after this weekends detail.
Mine was a manual trans and no side curtain airbags (I figured if I got T-boned by a Marin Land Rover, I didn't want to linger in the hospital) but I got satellite radio and cargo mats and tote bag, and it was $15,300 out the door, all tax and license. I put $2k down and financed the rest at 60 months at 6.25%.
Right now, I'm upside on the loan by $2,500.
Goes to show...people shop for a car but they forget to shop for money.
Poor thing, she'll never get whole on that car I'm afraid
She just will be responsible for non-covered maintenance after 36K, and the car payment. Plus at an average of 36MPG she does not pay much for gas compared with most any other larger vehicle.
I agree, she should live with it many more years.
Unfortunately, I need a new car in a hurry, she really does need something a little larger. I have to return a rental because my ride, 2003 Toyota Matrix, was totalled, $9000 worth of damage, last week by an 80 year old guy.
Is $13K a fair number for the car provided I get the warranty and the rest of the maintenance coverage? Seems like about the right number to me, car is dealer lot ready and I know the maintenance history.
Can somebody let me know if I am way off on my asking price for a private party sale? What are the odds of getting the same numbers in spring assuming I just tack on a few hundred more miles (Well, the reality is, I really don't expect to clock more than 500 miles over the next 5 months, considering the car has barely been run 2k miles so far in 2007).
2002 HONDA S2000 CONVERTIBLE – 34,500 MILES. PRISTINE CONDITION INSIDE AND OUT!! SQUEAKY CLEAN TITLE, NON SMOKING LADY DRIVEN.
VIN - JHMAP11472T000116
FORMULA RED / BLACK INTERIOR, DETACHABLE HARD TOP, Custom black Grill Inserts, Rick’s Custom red & black leather Shift Boot and Black Aluminum Counter sunk shift knob, Painted red calipers with custom decals, Custom two tone leather steering wheel cover, Head rest back cover replaced in red, INGEN Cold air flow intake, NEVER TRACKED, ALWAYS BABIED, Convertible top replaced, Lovingly cared for, Meticulously and repeatedly hand detailed by me with ZAINO SHOW CAR PRODUCTS, Needs very little maintenance!! Pictures do no justice for this car – You have to see it to believe it!!!
Priced low for a quick sale – This car will actually cost you way more next spring!!!
Edmunds.com PRIVATE PARTY VALUE IS US$ 20,300/-. ASKING US$ 19,988 – FIRM!
FREE CARFAX REPORT AND MONEY BACK GUARANTEE AVAILABLE
What do you folks think? Any Input would help...
Cheers!!
--njexpress
When people do things like paint their calipers, add stickers, CAI, etc, etc.... then say "lady driven. never tracked." I get a queasy feeling. I would at least drop the "lady driven" part because it isn't a selling point when considering the mods. It just tells me that the lady is a bit of a car person and probably drove it like a sportscar should be driven.
Oh, and I'd also probably drop the part about the top being replaced. That tells me it has seen the outdoors more than the 34k miles would dictate. Just a thought.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Thanks for the input. Yes, I will seriously consider dropping the lady driven part. The reason I mentioned the top was because it is a known issue that the tops can go bad.
Thanks again.
Cheers!!
--njexpress