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The reality is that a few cars actually get any competition from buyers, the rest go for the bottom line slashed price if they go at all.
Terry.
These aren't bad things, they just build traffic .. when I first got in the biz, the dealer principle would have a sale about every 6/8 weeks and it would increase sales by 12/15 cars a day over 3 days .. after 9/10 months it kinda burned itself out and we would only see an extra 8/9 cars over the 3 days and it wasn't worth paying the "Slashers " ... it's the excitement, people get interested and they buy your product instead of the one down the street ...
Toyota has been "famous" for their Tent Sales for years .. pool 8/9 dealers together, drop 250/350 vehicles at a Mall or a Fair ground, drop some double trucked Ad's, get some big balloons and some radio stations -- and "Wango Tango", you just sold 150/170 vehicles over 3 days .. not so bad.
Can't be any worse than the boat shows or the lady on the other side of town that's had huge "I'm Retiring and selling out" signs on her stores for the last 2 years ..l.o.l.....
Terry
I was going to take the 0% financing when the rebate amount was $3K, but the week before I purchased GM increased the rebate to $5K. GM still financed me at a very competitive rate (matched my bank and credit union!), so taking the rebate in lieu of the 0% financing saved me a little of $1K over the life of the loan.
I welcome any updates/feedback.
Since car prices are negotiable--get it for the least you are willing to put the time into.
Except the IRS--don't fool with them.
That was a class action suite that struggled all the way to the Supreme court ... I don't remember anything coming out of it ..
Conclusion:
For the above reasons, we conclude that the Relators have not established their right to relief by mandamus on either the abatement issue or the discovery matter. Therefore, we deny the writ of mandamus.
Terry.
Since we're 8 or so months into the '05 model year, what price do you think they'd sell it for? I figure invoice is around $46-47. I'm curious how much the factory-to-dealer money for the 1 model year old vehicle would amount to. Current $1K incentive is on the '05s. I know this car has been eating at their floor plan for a while. Holdback should be around $1,400~.
Thanks.
0 miles, sunroof, 53k sticker........Advertised for $42xxx !!!!!
after $7000 customer downpayment
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On their website, it shows a $2500 rebate, $1000 bonus cash, and a $3500 discount from Chrysler for being part of the supplier program on the Chrysler T&C Limited.
My question is if these are Chrysler supplied discounts, will the dealer still be willing to discount off of MSRP, or is this similar to Fords X-Plan pricing where there is no negotiation?
MSRP - 25000
Invoice - 23000
1% of Invoice - 230
Rebate - 2500
Your cost, before tax and title fees, would be ((23000 - 230) - 2500) = 20270
Clear as mud?
Jim Miller
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04 still sitting on the ground..? ... nice vehicles and people like em' ... that said, unless your ego is bigger than your wallet I would looking for a nice pre-owned 04 CTS-V with 5/7/9k .. dealers are paying the $33/$34ish range for em' and I'm pretty sure you can get one in your driveway for "around" the $36/$37ish range ....
Terry.
Thanks
It turns out that $5000 worth of damage has been done to the car. The dealer has offered to pay to have it fixed (probably covered by the transporter insurance). I do not believe this is acceptable. The accident will lessen the resale value of the car and may have hurt the car in other ways not noticeable at this time. I believe that I ordered a "new" car and should receive one.
The dealership is unwilling to refund my money or replace my vehicle. I don't want to get lawyers involved, but does anyone know what I can do legally? Anybody have better suggestions of how I can return this vehicle for a new car or my money refunded?
Have you already signed the papers and paid for it? If so, you own it and you'll have to deal with the transporter. IMHO, the dealer should help you get a settlement from the transporter.
Just out of curiosity, why did you buy out of state?
Good Luck.
Unfortunately, the transporter settlrment would only be the cost to fix it I am sure. It still seems like I am entiled to a "new and undamaged" vehicle.
I bought the car out of state, because my region does not make the color combination I wanted.
If you don't understand all those papers - find somebody that does!! This is going to be interesting.
BTW, what kind of vehicle, what state are you in, and what stateis the dealer in?
I'd get a lawyer to draft a letter, with a mention of diminished value.. Perhaps they can get the insurance company to get you a new car, in lieu of a diminished value claim..
Otherwise, your only recourse will be monetary..
regards,
kyfdx
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I once bought a Nissan that had to be dealer swapped. When it showed up, there were a bunch of scratches on it. The dealer refused to accept it, and sent it back and then found me a replacement.
I'm still fuzzy here on who you bought this from, and who got paid. If it is the dealer that it arrived at 9and they did a ealer swap), I still don't see why you get stuck, just because it was pre-funded.
Try this, you make a deal on a unit "on the back lot", and sign the papers on it while they prep it. When they bring it around front, it has body damage. Are you going to accept it with a "too late, you signed" reasoning?
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Not the end of the world either. You could have just as easilly been rear ended at a light the day you bought it. It's just a car.
Hey, this is America - Sue somebody!!!!!
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I personally have not signed anything to Toyota (the credit union may have). It is not the end of the world, but I saved up for a new car and that is what I should get. I only buy a new car every 10 years. You pay a premium for new cars because you know they have never been in an accident, have know scratches, etc. It seems like I should get what I paid for. If you buy a TV over the internet and it shows up broken. Wouldn't you send it back and get a new one?
Good luck,
-Mathias
What does your credit union have to say about this? Are they on your side as they are the ones lending you money on a now diminished value vehicle?
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Here a car is yours (customer's) once it's reg'd, the license plates are on it, and the customer ( or somebody) drives it off the lot, until then it's the dealer's.
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Who hired the transporter? The dealer. It's their problem. If the buyer hired the transporter, different story. If I were in your shoes, I'd make sure the dealer is aware I wouldn't accept THAT vehicle on any terms and that I'd expect a new vehicle reshipped. Any issues with the damaged vehicle are between the transporter and the dealer.
I'd bet there are state laws that apply here. Keep us informed on what happens.
Not necessarily. Shipment of goods typically is FOB shipping point - free on board. Once it gets on the truck, it's no longer the shipper's goods - it belongs to the consignee.
I'm still surprised that the original poster hasn't signed any documents pertaining the the purchase of the vehicle. That smells funny to me.
The dealer isn't going to give you a new car. Simply put, their insurance won't cover it since it was in the possesion of the transport co.
It is up to the transport co to make good.
I also find it odd that you claim not to have signed any paperwork pertaining to ownership of the car. I can't think of any dealer that would ship a car anywhere, much less cross country without the purchase order being signed and the funds in the bank.
In a perfect world the transport co would replace the car, but this isn't likely to happen either. They will fix the car, plus you might get something for diminished value.
..."it was delivered from NC to LA" ...
What vehicle can't be bought in California that can be bought in North Carolina .. and why would you ship it 2,500 miles..?
I'm not defending nobody here, but the dealer has his money, the transport company has been paid and they're on the hook for the damage and they're insured ....
Maybe I'm missing something here, it's early and I haven't finished my first cup of coffee yet .... 3 questions:
1.) who has the title..?
2.) who got the $5,000 .?
3.) what kind of car is it.?
more coffee ...
Terry.
Terry :shades:
mackabee, "Toyota Avalon: Prices Paid & Buying Experience" #285, 24 May 2005 3:49 pm
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Thats what I was thinking...you've signed papers but havent taken delivery. I would think that could(would) be the out here.
Here in Oklahoma, delivery has been taken when the vehicle leaves the dealers premises. On one purchase, I wasnt picking up the car until the next day...but my sales guy insisted I "pull around to the front of the store" which required briefly leaving the premises.
I already knew what that was all about, but he told me why anyways.
Terry-
Has this poster already taken delivery, or for another reason is it just not applicable in this case?
It isn't a car being shipped from one dealer to another...
He bought the car in NC, even if he wasn't there personally... Dealers aren't licensed to sell out-of-state.. The sale took place in NC, whether he was there or not.
Not only that, money has changed hands (the entire amount, I believe). Not the same as just making a deposit.
I think it is between him, the transporter (and their insurance company), and possibly his own insurance company (if he needs their help).
regards,
kyfdx
(who thinks this stinks, either way.. condolences)
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Terry--you'd be surprised. I believe this individual said he had ordered a Toyota. In LA (Louisiana) he falls under the same Toyota jurisdiction as we do in OK. This five-state area is represented by Gulf States Toyota. GST operates independently of US Toyota and only orders vehicles with option packages that GST determines to be easily sold in this region. Thus, it is very hard to get AWD versions of Toyotas SUVs and even harder to get side airbags (with our wide open spaces we only have to watch for buffalo broad siding us)--or at least it was with the 04 Rav4 we were trying to get.
He could have ordered one, which is what we did, only to wait 6 months and have our local dealer state that GST wasn't going to honor our requisition. We briefly thought about getting one equipped exactly as we wanted in MD before coming to our senses and getting a used 02 instead.
I'm unaware of other manufacturers that do this, but Toyota lets GST operate this way and it can be a real hassle if you want a car that isn't packaged with X options simply because they are popular for the area, plus the Rav4 is manufactured in Japan, which adds another layer of difficulty. The other thing GST does is combine a lot of add-on "value" packages together that add profit, but not always value from the consumer's perspective.
Not being an attorney I can't help with the other discussion.
Gogiboy
He's thought up a scenero with complications....
And we're seeing people come down on all sides of this discussion.
Bingo ........!
Terry.
I do recall a few years back that some dealer (or dealers) that received "damaged" bmws were repairing / repainting the damage and not informing customers, and someone got sued, don't know how it turned out.