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Overall, a great car in all conditions.
I've been talking to dealers in Chicago and Indianpolis. I've heard the first 2002s will be delivered in the spring. The dealer that told me this was also very interested in selling me a 2001.
I was quoted $56,860 on a new in stock 740i with the following options: cold weather, convenience package, heated steering wheel. The car lists for $65,560. I purchased my 740i on Thursday.
The new 2002 745 model is to be unveiled at the Frankfurt auto show in September..my guess on US delivery would be late 2001/early 2002.
With respect to the computer problems reported on display color and Radio+OBC, try setting the day/night function to yes at the same time.
Finally, I love everything about the car so far...:-)
The BMW dealer can't even look at it for a week. What do you think? Just a control module, or will I need a new tranny? I've heard that there is a problem in hot climates with a small plastic piece in the tranny that comes apart and allows the tranny to engage both the reverse gear and a forward gear at the same time, resulting in a badly damaged tranny. Another BMW guy said that it's probably just moisture in the control unit (I did have the engine cleaned 4 days before this problem).
And for your amusement, I'll provide the following: The car body is in near-perfect condition. I bought it on Friday, had it professionally detailed inside and out, then a high-speed polish, on Sunday. I drove it to work for the first time on Monday and got caught in a thunderstorm with hail, resulting in several dents on the roof and hood. Then the transmission problem on Thursday. Then the tow truck that came to pick up the car pulled in front of me, backed up, put the truck in park, and then the truck lurched backwards and the big steel bar crushed the hood. Maybe God doesn't want me to have a BMW...
Remember to work from the amount over dealer invoice not off of MSRP. However since these posts have been quoting off-MSRP, in my opinion, you should be able to get $15K off MSRP on the current model if you show them that you will walk to another dealer to get the right deal. Actually, walking out of the dealership is a very good method. They are going to have to discount the current models significantly.
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i love the new design, finally BMW breaks away from their evolutionary redesigns ; )
Different I must admit.
http://www.bmw.com/e65/
The technology on this car trumps the S-Class by leaps and bounds. I hated the car when I first started seeing spy pics, but have grown to admire it. I think it will look much better, more impressive when seen in person. I think it will be more akin to the old W140, which is what BMW designed it to, not the W220. That is why they were shocked to see the sleek W220. But I do believe the interior materials on this car will also trump the W220. "This is not your dads BMW" might be an appropriate term. :-)
Frankly, I think the new BMW continues the typical German Teutonic styling. Mercedes has chosen to soften it's edges more, more like a Japanese auto.
Just my humble opinion, please no rants and raves.
vbnm: the second "pod" is for the idrive screen...and if im right, Bentleys/Rolls Royces have nav systems too, but it pops out of the top of the dashboard, so its hidden when not in use.
One of the reasons why I bought my A6 4.2 is that the NAV works so well with everything else. The stereo volume lowers so that the NAV voice gets "mixed" in, as does the integrated cell phone when you have a call or are yakking away hands-free.
I don't like the rear of the 7-series, but I plan to take a look at buying one once the first-year problems have been resolved. I love the idea of no shifter-column...truly innovative. I LOVE controlling the stereo, phone and (when in Tiptronic auto-manual mode) shifting from my steering wheel. It makes other cars feel primitive. I bet the new 7-series will be an addictive car, and a BLAST to show off to your friends.
But that rear end! Ay-chihuaua!
it's interesting that the interior photos show a car with royal blue/vanilla colors -- very audi A6!!
does anybody have any idea what is hidden in the lower consol, below the little dials? it looks like 2 drawers or something. is this possibly where the phone is stored? or a CD changer?
I believe that it was supposed to be made for a Radar det. or a EZpass.
Robert
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The three cars were Lexus LS430, MB S430 and the BMW 745i.
I have to say right off, the car looks much better in person than it does in photos. Though the trunklid still looks just a bit awkward, it definitely looks better in person.
I will try to recall all the details that I can.
The headlamps are bi-xenon and have the "halo" effect like the 2001 5-series. VERY cool.
The 745i bases at 71,650. Which is significantly more than the current 7-series. That includes the usual stuff, including an "active" type suspension. The car they had there was FULLY loaded. Had auto door closers, the trunk was auto open and close and was a sight to behold. I DEFINITELY would want that. It is just amazing to watch.
The best way I can describe the interior is that it is like sitting in a living room full of Italian furniture. With this interior, BMW has definitely taken a high-tech path to luxury. It definitely has a luxurious feel, but if you think of Italian furniture, sleek, VERY modern, you will know what I am talking about. I think BLACK will be the best color for this interior.
Also, the standard wood has a matte finish. I would definitely upgrade to the shiny stuff. The matte is ok, but doesn't look as rich as shiny wood.
The seats are fantastic! Think of sitting in a catchers mitt, all snug and cozy. That's exactly the way it felt. The seats are just awesome, and the controls for them, which are on the side of the center console are unique. There is a rotary control and you turn it either way after selecting the portion of the seat control that you want to change. Very unique, and very effective. Of course it had the heating and cooling seats.
ANOTHER COOL feature is the rear window shades. THEY ARE ELECTRIC!! There are controls on either rear door that control the rear quarter window shade of the rear door shade. They can also be controlled from the front seat. The center console is HUGE! VERY wide, but again, very elegant in a high-tech way. When you open up the two center "armrests", it is cavernous inside. A definite improvement over my 740's armrest storage, which is non-existent. :-)
The i-Drive is FANTASTIC! It is the most amazing thing I've ever tried. Also, the center hood, which I complained about in the past as looking stupid. Well, guess what, in person it looks REALLY good. It blends in surprisingly well, and doesn't look like an add-on, which is the way it looks in the pics to me.
The rear seat passengers have a drop down mirror, like the Mercedes, except that there is only 1 and it is in the center. The other feeling that strikes me about the interior, is it is very much like a cockpit, especially with the brushed chrome overhead console.
The rear seat legroom has NOT improved on this i model. I thought maybe it would be, but with the frontseat set comfortably for a six footer, the knee room is still about the same, maybe just a tiny bit more than the current 740i.
The rear seats were also VERY comfortable, but again, it is like sitting in really comfortable leather furniture. You sit IN to the seat, not on them. It would DEFINITELY be my choice for a long-distance drive.
This car so out-classes the Mercedes S-Class, it is unbelievable, and I was a Mercedes faithful for years.
Oh, one other thing I forgot. The material they use on the headliner and posts is really strange. I think it will be much more durable than the material on the current 7, but it is like a nylon material, feels like womens hosiery to touch. :-)
When will the time will be right to get a great deal on a 2001? I recall reading above that a factory to dealer rebate expired in late June or early July but it seems to me the deals for the 2001's have to get even sweeter as the 2002s roll in. Thoughts?