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I called Lawrence Volvo today and was told that the Nav System is *NOT* a Dealer Installed Option, or that even if it is, they're not sure if it would be cost-effective to install. Looks like I am going to miss this fantastic system!
I've got "high performance" on my side windows and "standard" on the back so as to not interfere with radio reception. (No NAV). Picked up that back glass tidbit from one of these boards, thank you very much!
So, if you're not sure (after it's been installed) what you've got, look for a slightly chromic reflection from the tint that you won't get from standard tint.
Philzornes: If Volvo of Richardson's-recommended contractor did that tint job they damn well better be paying for its removal. And, remember, you're limited to 20% (?-double check State law) visibility on front windows, which is almost like limo glass using the high performance tint. That's what I've got on the back windows, and 30% on the front. It's plenty dark from the outside and especially the 30% really isn't so bad from the inside.
Iskowitz: I've got kids riding around in back in the Texas summer which is why I did 20% in back, but if that's not a concern to you I'd say 30% metallic on side windows all around would be just fine, just put non-metallic on back window.
Glad to hear that you were satisfied with Pitcairn's service department. In my limited dealing with them so far I am very satisfied with the whole Pitcairn operation. I looked at cars at Princeton Volvo (since I work near them) and found them to be rude so I went to Pitcairn (near where I live).
Any comments appreciated.
javasea
For the record, my 7,500 mile service cost $159.53; $138 for interval maintenance, $6.95 for filter, $1.08 for gasket, $13.50 for Durablend 10/30.
I live in Yardley/Lower Makefield.
I assume by "brick" you mean how boxy Volvos were. I always hated Volvos becuase of that. I am really happy with the style of the S-80. If it was boxy I would not have bought it.
Here's the link:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/volvos80
If you have questions, email me at ridgetop@mountain.net
Bob
Have you been to the brickboard?
http://www.brickboard.com/AWD/?model=S80
I did not request the special oil, just the regular stuff. I too will be changing my oil every 3,000 miles or so. We do mostly, 98% stop-and-go in town driving. The worst for a car.
Javasea
Broeux
Broeux
Geoff
BTW, while I was searching through the posts, I noticed that someone else was having problems with their HU 801 audio system making scratching, static noises while the dolby pro logic is engaged. We had that problem too, but it was finally fixed with the replacing of the headset.
Thanks for your help
I agree with you about Volvos in the past were not luxury. Their interiors were for lack of a better word utilitarian. That definitely has changed with the S-80. The car is definitely not boxy and is very luxurious. They can now compete with the Germans (BMW, Audi, Mercedes) in the luxury department. I do not know if Ford had anything to do with the change or they simple figured out that if they added style and luxury to their reputation for safety and reliability they would have a winning combination.
No, I have not checked out the brick board but will.
The team he headed up for the S80 development included American Doug Frasher, who designed the exterior; and Mexican native Jose L. Diaz de la Vega, who designed the interior. It's reported that the basic exterior design concept was introduced at an auto show in 1992.
Horbury himself voiced your and my sentiments when he spoke of the task of coming up with an exciting new design: "The biggest challenge was to change an image without losing the identity. Volvo was known throughout the world, a very strong name. But in many markets its very positive attributes, such as safety and reliability, were equated with 'not too exciting.'"
He added "...I felt that there was no reason we couldm't have everything and make it look good as well."
From what I gather in my research and brief travel around Sweden, Swedes are typically very practical, probably frugal people--no offense intended to Swedish readers. The old Volvo "bricks" suit them just fine. It seemed like at least every other car we met on the back roads of Sweden was a Volvo, many of them really old. But outside of Göteborg and its suburbs, we saw only a couple of S80's on the back roads and in smaller cities, and only a couple more even in the "big city" of Stockholm during a three day stay (there Volvos in general did not dominate--saw lots of VW, BMW, MB, other European makes, some SAAB and lots of Fords).
Stopping at a Volvo dealer between Kalmar and Stockholm to see if he had any European license frames for our license plate, he had zero S80's on the premises, and frankly I got the impression he had never seen one.
First, of course, the S80 is very expensive. At the factory delivery center I was told that a car like ours would cost over 55K. (To put a navigation system on it, the owner would have to pay over $400 a month to the government in taxes--that info came from the delivery center mgr. who said the company wouldn't even let him have a navigation system.) But, also, the S80 probably doesn't appeal as much to the average practical Swede. But to me, they came up with a real winner!
Incidentally, another piece of information learned at the Göteborg Torslanda visit, from a public relations person, was that the S80 was at the time the ONLY Volvo produced in Sweden. I have read that they eventually planned to build some other models on the same platform in Göteborg, but I don't know if that has materialized to date. It's sort of like we have the only "genuine" Volvos now!!
Broeux
When you going to come over the the Yahoo Volvo club that was started up. Place for links, pics and others.
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/volvos80
Aaron
miles on my 99 2.9 S80. 2nd oil change, first
major problems:
1. The dreaded bushing problem, surfaced at 11K;
2. Failed mass air flow sensor. This module is
a critical part of the throttle body; failure
can cause slow shifting (!), inconsistent idle,
stall outs, and jackrabbiting. Rather rare
failure.
Horrible? Inexcusable? Not really. I had my 92 Accord in the shop 5 times in the first year and went through 3 clutch plates as the factory tried to fix a clutch grabbing problem. In comparison,
the Volvo has been really rather trouble free, and the dealer has been very attentive and thorough.
https://owners.volvocars.com/FormsLoginSSL.asp?Make=Volvo&L=49&N=840
Includes online manuals, warranty/service information, workbooks on older models, driving tips, trip planning, mechanical info, symptom description form to complete and take with you to service department, etc.
Be sure to look for the form to submit for free subscription to VOLVO MAGAZINE.
broeux
Anyway, I have never seen any posts (in recent memory) on air conditioning issues, so maybe you didn't wait long enough for the car to cool down if the car was left out in the sun and the inside temperature was very high.
Try test driving a different car if you have any concerns - I don't think you'll find the AC to be an issue at all.
Good luck!
Sure seems there is a wide range of costs as you pointed out. I do plan to take my oil change services to my local Volvo mechanic instead of this dealer next time...
Buyer beware, I guess.
broeux
Thanks.
Thanks in Advance.
From my invoice at Volvo of Richardson: my 7,500 mile service cost $159.53; $138 for interval maintenance, $6.95 for filter, $1.08 for gasket, $13.50 for Durablend 10/30. Unless there was some coupon or dealer incentive to the contrary, I'm curious if the "interval maintenance" was not performed for that $38 price.
I learned a VERY expensive lesson in an old VW Scirocco (remember those?) and got a stern warranty warning when taking delivery of its replacement (a Jetta), to NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER use anything but factory parts for oil changes. So, for whatever incremental cost difference there might be, if there's a dealer that's accessible to you, I'd just let them do it.
What can S80 owners tell me about quality/fit/ finish.
Turbo or std 2.9?
What lease payment is out there for 2 or 3 yrs w/ 15K miles annually and 0 down. Should qualify for X Plan through sisters father in law.
How compares to Saab 9-5?
How good in snow?
Thanks all.
Thanks all.
Personally, as to fit/finish, I find our S80 worthy of the designation of "luxury car," comparable to our prior Lexus. Assuming you are at least somewhat familiar with the S80, you will already know that this is no ordinary Volvo. If you sit behind the wheel even briefly, you will surely appreciate the attention to quality and finish of the interior, the spaciousness and the comfort of the best seats money can buy (at least in the T6--someone else can address the 2.9). Drive it just a short distance and I'm betting you will be wanting to "throw rocks" at the competition. I don't think there is any other car which offers so much for so little. (Actually, The Auto Channel presented Volvo its "Overall Car of the Year Award" on 10/8/99, for "style, safety and luxury at a reasonable price.")
T6 vs. 2.9--personal choice. Both are great. After driving the T6, there was no turning away for me. Pure excitement. Depends on your likes, needs and budget. You be the judge.
Sorry I can't help with you with lease information. Never could get into leasing; I have a personal relationship with our T6, and knowing I didn't OWN it just wouldn't be the same! :-)
Broeux
Many thanks for everyone's help.
I too like power so prob. will go with the turbo. Glad that you both compared w/ Lexus because other than the white plastic body panels yellowing and repainted at Lexus cost the car was absolutely great. Just can't bring myself to go back to American and besides I am Swedish ancestry.
PS The hardest part is when you get back and have to wait for your car! It is really a tease because you come home with one set of keys and have no car to put them in. I will be getting my car Tuesday (01-AUG) can not wait!!!
You will get some shipping papers that will show the shipping line carrying your car back home. You can go to...
http://www.shipguide.com/eur2nam.html
...and you should be able to track progress of your car's journey. Select "from" and "to" cities, the ship line and date of shipment and it will show you the voyage.
Tip: At least by the morning after the day it's due to arrive in port, call the port and check the status and ask when it will leave the port on the way to your dealer (unless you're picking it up at the port, which gets "involved"). Our car sat in the port a good 10 days waiting for a truck "heading your way." But, the same day I called they managed to get it on a truck, and it was here the next morning!
Have a safe trip and be sure to keep us posted.
Broeux