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I'm looking for the same car with parchment interior. Thanks!
1. The loss of power on regular was noticeable.
2. There was also a significant decrease in gas mileage.
When I ran the numbers, I found it was CHEAPER to run premium! i.e. - the gas cost 12% more, but cut mileage 15%. It is a no-loss situation to run premium!
With the higher compression of the TL, the difference is sure to be even more.
If you decide to try this for yourself, be sure to try at least 2-3 tanks of each at a time to allow the computer to fully accomodate.
If you still want to try it go right ahead this is just a word of caution. What I have posted and been told could be completly false but I rather pay a little extra up front for gas rather than paying a lot to repair an engine that may not be covered by warenty.
On my previous car (1999 Mazda Millennia) I used premium although the manual recommened regular.
The difference was QUIET noticeable in terms of performance.
I never went back to regular gas throghout my 36 month lease term.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-07-30-premiumgas_x.htm
This is the article I was refering to a couple post back. Where the Honda R/D engineer is quoted as saying ""I go back and forth, and I'm hard-pressed to notice" whether there's regular or premium in the tank, says Jeff Jetter, principal chemist at Honda Research and Development Americas. He drives an Acura designed for premium. "
I would think after reading this one would be hard press to spend extra mony for something that only in ones mind you can tell the difference.
But auto engineers generally agree that if you use regular in a premium engine, the power loss is so slight, most drivers can't tell.
The difference is like peeing in the ocean.........never know the difference. Except in ones wallet........A few more tanks of gas...
By the way the quotes came from http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-07-30-premiumgas_x.htm
All copy rights reserved by USAToday and Copyright 2004 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc.
1) Got a good deal from my closest dealer (bought my '95 Integra GS-R from them), and they don't have Red/Camel/AT/Navi on the lot, or coming in before the end of February. They were placing orders for March, and thus I could pick exactly what I wanted.
2) It is winter hear in MineSNOWta -- snow means salt and slippery roads. While I would have *loved" the seat heaters tonight, coming back from the airport in my cold soaked Accord, I would be happiest if I could first use the new car without so much bad weather.
3) I get a non-trivial 2003 company bonus in late February. I plan on paying cash, so timing after then would be prefered.
4) Major project design review on 3/15 - I would prefer no distractions before then.
So - the planets aligned by placing an order for a TL that will be build in March, and arrive in late March/Early April.
Can't wait, but I will be patient....
Is the relationship linear? Do you get as much HP gain going from 91 to 93 as you lose going down to 89?
Use what the mfr recommends. Period.
I was traveling through Birmingham AL on Monday (1/19 - from Montgomery to Huntsville) and they have at least 3 cars with Nav. (one gray and two white). A week ago they did not have any except for the demo car.
I live in Huntsville and have not had a chance to check the local dealer (Jerry Damson) to see if they now have any Navs sitting on the lot.
Is anyone else seeing a difference in the inventory on the lots? Is there an increase in the ones with the navigation system?
Thanks.
Makes one wonder, however, why no professioanl reviews I've read (including Consumer Reports) seem to mention some of the complaints expressed here, such as poor quality tires, memory seat failure, etc.
Since it was now a tire warranty issue, the Acura dealer washed his hands in it and sent me off to my local Firestone dealer for replacement. After spending a hour or so with the Firestone manager convincing him of my problem, they ordered me a new tire. Supposedly, the tires on the TL are so new, they are not in the Firestone dealer network.
The new tire arrived a few days ago and was installed on Tuesday. Guess what, the car still pulls. The Acura dealer/Firestone dealer either have guessed the wrong tire was causing the problem or there are other issues. So it's back to Firestone for me today where they will swap the front tires to see if the pull goes to the opposite direction. If so, then the problem is with the other front tire not originally replaced.
I'll see how this goes today and let you know th results.
Check it out!
However, with 149,000 miles under my belt in a 1995 Maxima SE 5-speed, I have a few other observations. I have taken the opportunity to drive a full tankful of regular on a highway trip that we make 10-12 times a year. Doing my best to match trip speed (cruise set at 72 mph) weather conditions, temperature, etc., I have concluded that MPG using regular is approximately 6% less than premium (27.5 mpg vs. 29 mpg, on average). In most cases, the cost of premium where I buy (Exxon, Mobil, Amoco in the DC area) is only about 7-9% higher than regular (10-15 cents), such that the "net" savings would only be 1-3%, based upon my highway MPG. I suspect that in city driving, the mpg difference between regular and premium is less, but there is still likely some difference.
My second observation is that on the few other occasions I have put regular gas in the car, the power difference under hard acceleration is definitely noticable in my 5-speed. It's almost as if a rev limiter starts to kick in at 5,500 rpm. With premium gas, the engine is smooth right up to its 6,500 rpm red line.
Between those two factors, I would never consider skimping on regular fuel. Of course, I also have changed my oil every 4,000 miles, which has probably resulted in an extra 12-15 oil changes over 9+ years and 149,000 miles. But the engine still runs like new and a year ago was confirmed to be within a couple of percent of new car specs for compression.
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Also on my three miles test drive the Ave MPG is 6, which is kinda low. Is that normal (it's local but not in bad traffic)?
As far a 6 mpg on your test drive, that's normal. Whenever you just reset your trip computer, you will get these kinds of numbers for the first few miles, especially if you stand a lot or drive very slowly through driveways, etc.
IMO... My 97 Buick Park Avenue does this and also overall Avg. Also the Buick has Heads Up Display which I think all vehicles should have. If you have ever used this HUD, one would understand the importance of keeping ones eye straight ahead on the road.
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it says:
"As a safety precaution, one can only operate the system when the car is stopped — a good idea generally, as we don't think a driver should be messing with a touchscreen keyboard while driving."
First of all, can anyone verify if this is true on the new TL's??
Now, I have a 2002 3.2TL, and i can use the nav while driving. Why would they mess with this and change it?
Last thing I want, is to be lost in a bad area at night, and have to pull over and stop the car to enter a navigation address....that is pure stupidity!!!
I can understand them not wanting to mess with it while driving, for safety reasons, but IT HAS VOICE ACTIVATION NOW!!!! HELLOOO?!?!?!?!
the whole point of voice is to overcome the safety issues of manual input...so why would Acura not allow it to work?
Hopefully, this report was wrong, and nav input works while driving. Otherwise, that is a major beef I would have with the car, and hope that Acura will change that shortly...
anyone else agree??
Marc
On Nav, I think all Honda/Acura's allow you to play with all NAV stuff while moving. Many others only allows limited features when moving for safety reasons.
When you reset Ave MPG you still won't see any instant MPG as it will wait for 15 sec. and 'ave' out. I agree ave. is more useful but instant one does tell you how good or bad the MPG is in certain driving pattern or considtion. It's just SW?