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  • cannell3cannell3 Member Posts: 45
    My 13 month old EX Sedan has a burned out headlight. I noticed it last night. I can't figure out it if it is a warranty item or not. I read the owners manual, and it talks about having to remove the radiator overflow bottle and the air intake valve. Any ideas how expensive that this might be a the dealership? I would guess that the bulbs are available at auto parts places. Isn't this unusual for an almost new car? Any opinions?
  • auburn63auburn63 Member Posts: 1,162
    3 years and 36,000 miles on everything that is not a wear item such as brakes.So the bulb should be a warranty item if you are in this range.
  • frag235frag235 Member Posts: 81
    btw, I've got the '00 SE model - great car/value! Can't wait to see what the next edition looks like in a couple of years.
  • jjv55jjv55 Member Posts: 20
    Just picked up a new 2000 Accord EX V6. I absolutely love it. After driving a Stratus for three years, the Accord feels like heaven.
  • castagerecastagere Member Posts: 15
    Been driving my new 2001 Accord LX V6 4-door for approximately 2 weeks and I think it is a great car. It's fast, quiet, and the AT is smooth as other posts have indicated. After driving a 99 Civic for over a year, you definitely notice a difference. A friend of mine and I were sitting with the engine running just after I had started. He didn't realize the car was running. So anyone who says the 2001s are not quiet are uninformed. As far as acceleration, the same guy was impressed at the pick-up this car has. The VTEC V6 is an excellent engine. This, from a guy who drives only sports cars. The CD player is also very nice. A MAJOR step-up from a Civic. In response to the person that was looking at Nakamichi speakers, I have been a loyal Pioneer Electronics man my whole life. They are excellent speakers, so IMO, you can't go wrong with them. If you're looking for tech advice on the 6 speaker system in the Accord's, trying calling Crutchfield. They are one of the best and longest running car/home audio/video catalogue retailers and have superior customer service. Try talking to one of their techs and ask them about your speaker issue. I'm sure they can help you.
  • vida27vida27 Member Posts: 6
    I picked up a new 2001 EX V6 today. It was just off the truck, with 4 miles on the odomoter. It is silver with a grayish interior. I have to say that I really love it.
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    Again accord made it to 10Best in CarnDriver tests
  • inkyinky Member Posts: 370
    This is delivered price at end of month sale at local dealer (30 to choose). This is below invoice. Should I jump on it even though I do not need a car for two months? I was skeptical until salesman verified it as drive out price with all fees.
    INKY
  • titopuentetitopuente Member Posts: 46
    I say take it. but is it brand new 2001 model?
    sounds almost a bit too good.


    Sobers: NOt surprising. I have had my Accord for 9 months and 16,000 km. Thus far I have nothing to complain about the car, actually, I am full of praise for this car. Sure, its not the fastest or best looking but its the "best working" car on the road. 500km trips from Toronto to Montreal, going cross country to visit my University buddies and driving through snow, rain, extreme heat during summer and NO SQUEAKS OR NOISES, NO PROBLEMS. Damnit, I can go on, but you guys know what I'm getting at. Accord definitely deserves its place as one of the top 10 best cars.
  • inkyinky Member Posts: 370
    Yes, 2001 LX Accord Sedans for $17,388 delivered, no other fees (In OKlahoma) 3.25 tax is paid later at tag office. Satin Silver looks good.
    INKY
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    That price is pretty average in No Calif for LX Automatics, in competitive markets like the Bay Area. My guess is that this will still be available next week, next month, and next year, so buy when you want.
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    during my short stay in Canada(Toronto) that Honda/Acura are VERY well sold there. I don't know whether it is because of large number of dealers or competetive pricing. I saw too many 3.2TLs there. Almost all were wearing underbody & regular spoilers. Honda is taking canada a bit seriously I guess !!

    Well, I can also go on and on about my Accord SE. I think for 2001 model LX has been significantly improved, with 6 speakers sterio with CD std, Alloys with ABS, Smart Airbags, Available Side Airbags on lower models & noise reduction. It is MUCH more than what Honda does in mid-model facelift. EXV6 is not much better buy with std 6-disc in dash, Traction control, Steering wheel Audio controls etc.

    I guess Honda has taken care of warm sales chart for another 2 years !!
  • titopuentetitopuente Member Posts: 46
    Oh yeah, you are totally right. The Toronto area is filled with Hondas/Acuras.... people gave up on the Mercedes C Class and Lexus ES300 for the 3.2TL. All the rich Chinese kids (who seem to have an obsession with speed) soup the hell out of either Hondas/Acuras (even NSX's!)or Bimmers and how many Integra Type R's are sold in North America? I see way too many of them here.

    As for Toronto, I would say that Honda is the king of the hill.


    For MY2001, the LX-V6 is probably one of the greatest bargains, They never sold the Lx-V6 in Canada until this year, and over here its priced the same as the EX with leather.
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    is prob'ly costlier than LX-V6 in USA !!
  • jwankeljwankel Member Posts: 13
    I would like to share a overall positive buying experience I had this week at Schaumburg Honda (which is NW of Chicago) for a 2001 Honda Accord EX V6 4Dr.

    After doing lots of research and getting pre-approval for the loan, I requested email quotes from several online referral services and Honda dealerships. After about 8-10 requests, I got back only 2 quotes with a price and I arranged meetings with two other dealers. After the first dealer, we were offered a very low price on our trade (much less than I expected). He said it was the best he could do, so we moved on. We went to Schaumburg Honda. The guy we were supposed to meet was out sick, so we sat down with another salesman (Roy Porter) and spent 10 minutes telling them what we were looking for, our trade, etc. I was a little irritated at the fact that this was all information that had been given to the other salesperson via email and phone and we were wasting time repeating ourselves, unnecessarily. They asked what the best price we'd been given so far and they matched it. They offered me 3x what the other place offered for my trade. After reading Edmunds.com and from previous experiences, I was very apprehensive and tense about the whole car buying ordeal. I was watching for money getting moved around, fees being added, etc. That didn't happen. We agreed on a price of $22,957 + $440 dest. + taxes.

    Now, I'm thinking the easy part is done as we move into the f&i office. I was surprised. We met with Glenn Meier who walked us through all the paperwork, explained everything to my wife and I and showed us all the numbers. We had agreed to let them offer financing to see if we could beat our existing approved loan. He said that he'd run the credit it was excellent and he would like to keep the financing in-house if he could. He had the same rate as we had gotten, so we financed through them. He was never pushy or intimidating; he was very helpful and straightforward.

    Overall, I had a good experience with them and would recommend them. I was prepared and felt things went well. I dealt with Roy Porter in New Car Sales and Glenn Meier in finance.

    And after two weeks and 1300 miles with the car I think it's a great car. The only complaint is how low the steering wheel is, even at it's highest and I wish they offered a telescoping feature.

    Enjoy,
    Jeff
  • titopuentetitopuente Member Posts: 46
    The EX doesn't come with Leather in Canada anymore...I don't think. But its got everything else. I think the Honda's up here are priced slightly cheaper than in the U.S.

    Jeff: Congratulations and I hope you continue enjoying the car.
  • jjv55jjv55 Member Posts: 20
    I too, had the best car-buying experience yet with the purchase of a '00 Accord EX V6. I'm also in the Chicago area and went to Castle Honda in Morton Grove. Got the car for $500 below invoice, and got much more than I thought I would for my trade. My salesman was Tim Byrne. There was a slight problem in the paperwork process, but overall, I recommend them to all! Absolutely no hassles. I also had a pleasant experience at Schaumberg Honda, but Castle offered more for my trade, and they're closer to home for me.

    I think I'm seeing a pattern with Honda dealer experiences. I have yet to hear a horror story!
    I'm sold!
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    I think the Canadian EX does come with leather.
    Do you know if the LX-V6 come with an alarm system, and the garage-door opener?
  • titopuentetitopuente Member Posts: 46
    No, the LX-V6 doesn't come with homelink or security. It does have the 6-way power seats and heated exterior rearviews, Single disc CD with 6 speakers, rear disk brakes, traction control, cruise, power group, ABS.

    I asked a friend of mine who owns a dealership and he said that the EX's this year have dropped about $2000 in price and that's because there's no more leather.
  • titopuentetitopuente Member Posts: 46
    Aftermarket security is probably cheaper with more features.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    I haven't really considered after-market alarms due to concerns over whether they would interfere with Honda's electrical system. However, I actually like Honda's dealer-installed alarm system much better than the factory-installed one. For some reason, Honda puts more features into their dealer-installed alarms, such as passive-auto arming, siren, glass-break sensor, instrusion diagnostic memory, etc.
  • couimetcouimet Member Posts: 130
    According to the Honda Canada web site (www.honda.ca), the 2001 EX comes with cloth while the EX V6 comes with Leather just like in 2000 ...
  • castagerecastagere Member Posts: 15
    Canadiancl, I have a couple of questions for you, if you don't mind. Did you have the dealer install the alarm as part of the new car purchase or did you have the dealer do it after? I have an LX V6 and was considering going the aftermarket route but like you, I am hesitant about messing with splicing wires and getting into the hard- wiring of the car. When I bought my car, I posed those types of questions to the dealer who said that if I installed a different stereo or put in my own alarm that if I had electrical problems, that would more than likely void the warranty, at least for the electrical standpoint. What was the price that they quoted the alarm system to be?
  • titopuentetitopuente Member Posts: 46
    I never knew that Honda factory security had all of that. My security system is factory installed. I don't really like the sound of the horn when pressing the arm button twice, its a bit too loud. the aftermarket alarms seem to have these fancy shmancy noises and gizmos. Well, I guess this is another Honda trait to keep things simple.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    You can turn off the horn sound so it only flashes the lights when you arm and disarm the system. [It still uses both horn and lights if the alarm is tripped for some reason]. This should be documented in the manual, but if not, see your friendly dealer service dept...it only takes a minute to turn the horn off for the arm/disarm function.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    Sorry for not responding earlier. I was out of town for a couple of days. I don't actually have an accord. My wife has a CR-V. But it's similar to your LX-V6 in the sense that the car is pre-wired for the dealer-installed alarm. We negotiated the total price with the alarm and thus had it installed at the time of purchase. We did it this way because when the CR-V was first introduced, Honda threw in a $300 credit towards purchase of accessories. But generally I think it is better to buy the accessories separate from the car. The reason is this: there is more profit margin for the dealer on the accessories. And in theory, if you add on accessories to the price of the car, you should be able to get a slightly higher % discount on the total price. But once everything is combined, you really don't know if they are giving you the benefit of the higher discount on the accessories. So I would suggest negotiate the best price on the car alone without any major accessories, but get the sales manager to agree (preferably in writing) that IF you do buy any accessories, you would get it at cost, or say, 20% off of the list price. That way you get isolate the discount that you are getting on the accessories.
    One word of caution though. I think when the accessories are installed by the time you take delivery, the accessories have the same warranty period as the car. But if you buy the accessories afterwards, then I think the warranty is only for 1 year. This may be important for something like an alarm system. So what you could do is negotiate and buy the accessories RIGHT AFTER you've reached agreement on the car so they could put the accessories on before delivery. Or get the dealer to agree that if any accessory is purchased within a certain time period, it would still have the car's warranty period.
    As for the price of the dealer-installed alarm, I live in Canada and my car was a CR-V so the price I paid may not mean anything to your Accord. But for the record, the list price for the alarm with the hood switch and siren kit was about $750 CAD. I knew it was quite a but more than an after-market system, but as I said in my earlier post, I actually really like the features on the Honda dealer-installed alarm, plus the concern over compatibility with the car's electronics.
    My apology to anyone who had to put up with this rather long post.
  • ferdmferdm Member Posts: 13
    I've had my Canadian Accord EX-V6 for about 5 days now. (almost 700 km's already! =]) Everything's running great except for one minor "problem". I've discovered that the leather seat heaters are reversed. Ie. the left side controls the passenger seat and the right side controls the driver's seat. Is this the way it's supposed to be or were they installed reversed? I checked the manual but it didn't say anything about which control was for which seat.
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    Has anyone put 16" wheels on an LX Accord? Does it change the speedo that much over 15" wheels? I would be guessing maybe 1-2mph... Anyone know?
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    I assume you would compensate for the larger wheel with lower-profile tires to minimize the effect on the speedo.
  • carguy62carguy62 Member Posts: 545
    www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html is a neat site that lets you compare tire sizes and see what the differences are. For the LXs 195/65 R15 a good step up would be 205/55 R16. It will have minimal differences in terms of speedo.
  • amazonamazon Member Posts: 293
    According to a friend of mine at Honda R&D, the Accord Coupe will be available with a V6 manual halfway through MY '02!!!!
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    Thanks for the link....
  • titopuentetitopuente Member Posts: 46
    Get that checked out, it's not logical reverse switches and make sure they fix it for free. And its a new car? I hope the switches are reversed cause some assembly line guy was drunk, otherwise...I smell a rat.
  • tiantltiantl Member Posts: 2
    Hi there,

    I was wondering, does anybody know is there going to be some promotion for Accord from Honda, in a couple of months? I heard they used to have low APR sometime during the year.

    Thanks.

    -Tian
  • castagerecastagere Member Posts: 15
    Thanks for the response. If it takes that long to explain your circumstances, so be it. I'd rather have a full description that covers all the bases than a short confusing one. I've already purchased my car though and would have to have the dealer install it a month after I've already purchased it. I agree with your assumptions on the dealer meshing the numbers on items that you have them add in. In a perfect world, if you know the "true cost" of the car and the dealer options then you would know how bad you're getting hosed on a car deal. $750 does sound kind of high to me but if it works well, has a lot of features, and is covered under the standard 3 year/36,000 mile warranty, it probably is worth it. Thanks again for the clarification.

    Late!!
  • cannell3cannell3 Member Posts: 45
    I just received my new Popular Mechanics Magazine, and in the automotive section/Service Tips, they mention a TSB for the 'notchy' problem. According to what I read, it calls to replace the clutch master cyclinder. The TSB # is: 98-084. Model years 1998-99
  • djhansensrdjhansensr Member Posts: 1
    To disable the beep heard while locking/unlocking, press and hold the unlock and option buttons for at least 2 seconds. Do the same to revert back to the beep.
  • rpm9rpm9 Member Posts: 73
    Honda Accords are nice, but the best-looking comparable car in the market is the new Pontiac Grand Am!
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    Cheap Interior materials, MANY TSBs(reliability problems) Lesser interior room due to Grand Prix.
    Besides that Pontiac has perfromance only in image
    GM needs to think about Olds & Buick. They just need to cancel thse brands & integrate their good pruducts with Saturn/Chevy. POntiac essentially is same as Alero with odd body cladding !!

    If Gramd AM is better car then every similar car from GM is better than Accord !!

    Also GM gives HUGE discounts to sell these products. There is horrendous resale problem. TON of sells to rental companys is one area I am very worried about.
  • rpm9rpm9 Member Posts: 73
    Hey sobers, I used to be a loyal Honda owner when I finally got tired of the fact that Honda just doesn't have enough excitement with the design of their Accords. Another thing about the Accord is that EVERYONE seems to have one. It's obvious that the Accord sells over 400K units per year because of their excellent reputation, but golly gee bejezus, they're so dang boring! So as I stated earlier, the new Grand Am has much more flair, creativity, and originality regarding its design unlike the same old, mundane Accord. Besides, it's not how you feel, baby. It's how good you look!!!
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    I have an older (96) honda with the plastic hubcabs that bolt on over the wheels. The paint has come off of these and they look splotchy. Does anybody know how I could fix this? Can they be repainted, and with what kind of paint. I would rather not pay $40 or more per wheel for new hubcaps.

    The car is in great shape, but the wheels look terrible.

    Thanks
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    For crying out loud...quit hitting curbs!

    I don't know if it's possible to repaint those wheel covers...probably not.

    You might scour the boneyards for some good used ones. They are usually in pretty good shape.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Well, it's a matter of what you like, I guess.

    I can certainly see why a person would want something different. A Grand Am sure wouldn't be my choice, but...hey, if that's what you like...

    Sobers is right though, they do depreciate like a ROCK!

    But that's a factor that some people don't care about.

    Buy what you like!
  • rpm9rpm9 Member Posts: 73
    Hey "isellhondas", you're absolutely right. The GAs depreciate like a rock. But I bought the GA strictly for one reason: It is the newest, most original, most creative, and most daring designed vehicle in quite some time. So what if things start falling apart, or I may get stranded on a dark lonely road with a serial killer on the loose, or that I can't sell my car for fair market value in the future. Who cares about all those things. Hey, atleast I look good. I mean, if a guy like Ted Bundy helps me while I'm broken down, he might atleast say I got a nice car. Heck, that would make me proud!
  • rpm9rpm9 Member Posts: 73
    Hey "dudleyr", maybe you should get rid of that 96 Accord with the cheapo hubcaps and step up to a brand new Grand Am with ALLOY WHEELS.
  • jguojguo Member Posts: 49
    builts plenty of ugly cars with absolutely no excitement. Check out the new issue of Business Week. They had an article about how the Aztek got it's ugly shape.

    I drove a rental Grand Am just two weeks ago. If you mean excitement as in butt ugly, then yes, it has a lot of excitement both inside and out. What were the designer thinking when they design the interior of that car? Other than the ugly styling, there were nothing remarkable about the car.

    PS. Alloy wheels will get damaged just as easily as hbcaps when you hit the curb. Only alloy wheels will be much more expensive to replace.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    I'm not trying to start a war of words, but I hope you're not equating looking good to looking different. Accords are not flashy looking, but they have a classy, timeless style. They look like they cost more than they actually do. A Grand Am,or most other Pontiac models, probably do get alot of looks from people. But if a fat women (or guy) walks down the street naked, alot of people would look too! But it don't mean it's attractive.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    It's true that there are alot of Accords around (maybe too many), but the problem with GA is that there are alot of RENTAL GA around.
  • rpm9rpm9 Member Posts: 73
    The reason why there are a lot of GA rentals is because the rental companies, through extensive and exhaustive research, found out that American cars are better built and would attract more customers to rent cars from them. They also realized that since there are too many Accords out there, they wanted to go with a more excitingly designed vehicle like the GA. Something that sticks out of the crowd and says, "Man I'm cool!"
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    The reason rental companies use American cars is because they are cheaper to buy and to maintain. Resale value is not a concern since the cars are sold after the first year anyways. And since the cost is lower, they car charge lower rates. Most renters don't really care if they are getting a sophisticated car, they just want inexpensive temporary transportation with a powerful air-conditioner!

    1 more thing, also read my response to one of your posts in the Maxima thread.
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