Older Honda Accords

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  • slu3slu3 Member Posts: 10
    If you are going for the 99/00 EX 4 Cyl. make you they gave you the letter for the extended warranty on the exhaust manifolds. I have one from Honda Canada informing that they are likely to "crack" and gives out very noisy sounds. They offered extended warranty on that part up to 160,000Km.
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    From a 1994 MT buying guide preview of the new for '94 Accord:

    "Hoping to win the hearts of more "thirtysomething" buyers - and silence critics who berate the present Accord's conservative styling" designers sought to "create a look that would convey strengh, sportiness, and intellengence."

    "...one of the Accord's key strenghts was its size, so exterior dimensions were left largely unchanged."

    "Dispite hard numbers that show only a slight expansion of interior volume, the '94 Accord feels notabley larger inside."

    "It's noticably quieter in cruise mode and more stable when pressed into a corner."

    "Faced with the challenge of high-value new entries such as the Nissan Altima..."

    "Even with substantial mechanical improvements and more standard equipment, they're vowing to price the '94 Accord at near '93 levels when it debuts this fall."
  • bigzheng17bigzheng17 Member Posts: 81
    something weird just happened to my 94 camry.

    last night i went to filled it up, it went about 280 mile (2/3 highway) and the fuel gauge is about little below half full. i expected to put in about 12 to 13 gal. but the pump popped after about 8 gal, i thoguth the pump malfunctioned and held down the handle to filled some more, the pump popped again, and it's still less than 9 gal in. then i decided not to put any more in and left, and the fuel gauge returned to full position.

    now this give me about 35 mpg, sounds too good to be true. now i'm more worried about what's wrong with it, i've never encounter any problem like this before.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    ...and you're here in the Accord forum bragging? :-)

    Actually, I find that I go further on the 1st 1/2 tank than the second on both our vehicles. IMHO, the gas guage strictly gives an approximation - it's not a precise instrument.

    35 mpg sounds plausible on a long hwy trip. My 98 Accord will return 30 mpg on a 150 mile highway jaunt at 70-75 mph.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    35 mpg is certainly doable. No cause for alarm.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    This is no Camry forum, but in your car, nearly half empty tank wouldn't mean 12-13 gallon. In fact, you'd get 12-13 gallon near the empty mark.

    35 mpg is probably too much for a 94 Camry, but low 30s is certainly doable. My 98 Accord has consistently returned 31-33 mpg when pushed hard (75-80 mph) on freeways, better than my 92 Camry ever did, but not as well as my 88 Corolla GT-S (36-37 mpg).
  • bigzheng17bigzheng17 Member Posts: 81
    thank guys!

    no i'm not here for bragging. :) i've been here for quite a while, cuz i'm looking to get a 03 lx-v6, though i haven't post much.
    35 mpg did seem too good, consider there are 100 miles city driving in there. also consider the lowest ever i got was 16 mpg, 35 is over twice that. guess i'll wait and see how next few tank turns out.
  • dodgerfandodgerfan Member Posts: 8
    As a follow up to my message #7086 which said that I have rattling in the front driver side of my then 2 week old 2003 Honda Accord LX 4 cyl., I wanted to let you know that I just got off the phone with the Honda mechanic who said that the problem was with the pillar behind the door panel. He said they opened up the door and added in some insulation and there is no more rattling.

    I don't know anything about cars, so I don't know if this makes sense but I hope this helps. I haven't picked up the car yet so I can't verify it is fixed but I'll re-post if I have any continuing or new problems.
  • larryt22larryt22 Member Posts: 125
    I picked up a copy of Consumer Guide 2003 Buying Guide, December Issue, and the Accord is rated a Best Buy. I think this organization is seperate from CR, but it is only a matter of time before CR stamps the Accord with its approval.

    FYI, I stopped by my local Honda dealer and they had an Accord sedans in all 8 colors sitting in a row. This was the first time I had been able to see them all together. I sure wish you could get the ivory interior with the red or blue exterior.
  • dfong87dfong87 Member Posts: 171
    thanks for the follow-up. i hope they indeed cured your problem. i still don't know where the one in our Accord is coming from. i don't think its the pillar in our case because it is more above the window, and worse yet...it drifts.

    i still think it may be the rain gutter/black trim on the outside...i got to make a sort of "snap noise" when i pushed down on it last night and then on the commute in today (20 miles), it was absent...then again...we've had it disappear for 100+ miles before only to reappear.

    in our case, it really isn't all that bad. it would be liveable, IF it would stay constant. but what happens is that it goes away, we're used to a perfectly quiet car and then after X miles, it reappears for a while...only to disappear again.

    i would say over the first 1300+ miles on the car, it's been there about 25% of the time...not bad...but i wish it were 0%! =)
  • amingaming Member Posts: 119
    many thanks for the dealership info...

    cheers...
  • superman5superman5 Member Posts: 154
    Wow, stopped by honda dealer the other day. I saw a v6 coupe inside a showroom , priced @ 29,000 + with 17" chrome rims and scotchguard protection. Talk about price hiking. Are coupes rare? @ that price, isn't CL-type s a better value?
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    Was NAV included? If so, MSRP with NAV would be about $28K. Unless I was buying the 6-speed model (which I doubt has reached dealerships yet), I will simply ask them to put the original rims back and not pay anything extra on add ons. I did just that for my car five years ago.
  • dodgerfandodgerfan Member Posts: 8
    I picked up my 2003 Accord LX 4 cyl. and the rattling on the driver's side was still there. They added in some insulation near the pillars but that evidently was not the problem.

    They now say they will remove the paneling near the roof on the driver's side to isolate the rattling. They estimate I'll have my car back in 2 days.

    I'll advise of the result.
  • bravedavebravedave Member Posts: 100
    My wife's 2002 Civic EX sedan had a similar problem. Please have them look at the alignment of the door stricker / jam. If the alignment is slightly off, it can cause the door to rattle, as it is has more play to reverberate road impacts & imperfections. Ours was fixed & the problem thus eliminated. This may not be your problem, but it is worth a look. Good luck :)
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    $29,000 is straight retail too not what you could actually buy the car for. Besides 17's on some decent tires aren't cheap especially if you buy them from the dealer.
  • pkduffy1978pkduffy1978 Member Posts: 1
    I've read a few posts regarding rattles with their 2003 Accord and thought I might be able to help. I have a 2003 Accord LX sedan that was assembled in Japan. My rattle started roughly 2 weeks after purchase, would happen constantly on rough roads, and was located in the ceiling. I removed the sunglasses/light assembly and discovered electrical wires laying on the cieling panel. Only 2 inch portions of the wires were foam-tapped to the panel to prevent rattling, but the rest was laying freely on the hard panel surface. My speculation is that these wires would vibrate on the hard panel surface when traveling on bumpy roads. I placed some soft tissue under these wires (not an easy job, I assure you!) and fixed the rattle for good. The car has been perfectly silent for the past 4 weeks now! BTW, the car is fantastic (and I'm very picky about my cars!).
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    Its amazing how your perception of where a rattle is coming from can be so far off.

    We had a rattle in our '01 Accord that I noticed during a week long vacation. I swore it was coming from the passenger side tweeter speaker. My father-in-law was riding in the car once that week and telling me it was coming from the instrument panel. On the way home, I noticed the rattle had stopped when I turned off the fan and would start again if you turned the fan on.

    It turns out the rattle was a plastic parking pass hung on the rear view mirror. When the fan was on and blowing through the vents above the radio, the wind caused it to rattle against the mirror.

    I was glad to have figured this out before taking the car into the dealer to be fixed!
  • gschul6884gschul6884 Member Posts: 6
    For those who might be interested or have the same thing happening to them. Soon after I took delivery of my car I started to get snapping noises which I first thought was coming from the steering column . Well, I had it serviced today at my dealer successfully. This is what there service report said and I quote "loose cowling fastners/B pillar and radio tweeter loose. Trace noises/tightened drivers side cowling fastners/lubed and felt tape B pillar/tightened drivers side tweeter fastners
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    I think it has to do with somehow the cabin acting like a sound chamber, and the rattle somehow reverberates around it. I know when I first got my CL, my sunglasses rattling around inside the overhead holder caused me to contort every which way trying to locate the source of the noise. (I ended up adding felt pads to the holder).
  • silverk21silverk21 Member Posts: 65
    ickes_, that is just way too funny of a story. Doesn't anyone use the radio anymore to drown out any rattles and/or unwanted passenger noise?
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    ...and how about black electrical tape over the CEL?
  • kelvinwookelvinwoo Member Posts: 6
    My 03 LX has noise between the windows and the door frames.
    How can i fix it?
  • ickes_mobileickes_mobile Member Posts: 675
    to drown out my father-in-law. He works at GM and enjoyed the idea that our Honda had a rattle way too much...
  • rwmillerrwmiller Member Posts: 5
    I got a call last night from the local dealer letting me know their first EX V6 with Navi was in so I could come in and take a look.

    I haven't gone in yet, and probably won't buy until they have been out a little while and there is a better selection but I wanted to let everybody know.

    Bob
  • jaynichjaynich Member Posts: 6
    I have a 1999 ExV6 with 40k miles. The auto transmission is making a loud "Clunk" when shifted into reverse, and when downshifting. I had read on these boards prior to buying that the automatic transmissions were prone to needing replacement.

    As I am just starting to research this. Can any one give me the pros/cons of rebuilt vs. new transmissions, and the cost savings for going rebuilt?

    Any help is appreciated.

    Jay
  • talking_headtalking_head Member Posts: 9
    I am currently looking at a EX-V6 from Yellowhead,
    The they wouldn't go lower then $35,300 as a drive away price. How did you find the service at Yellowhead? Over the past year I've been there 3 times and every time they've greeted me with "Haven't I seen you before" which I found really odd as I've never seen the same sales person twice.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    It's normal for the tranny to clunk when shifting into reverse. However, the "clunk" when downshifting is not good. You don't really get a new transmission from Honda. Nor will they take yours apart to rebuild/repair it. They will swap yours with a remanufactured one from the factory.
  • tgozdalski1tgozdalski1 Member Posts: 34
    Did anybody find 03 accord dx with manual or automatic transmission on dealer lot?
    Tom
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    I think I saw a few at Gwinnett Place Honda here in Atlanta. They are supposed to be one of the largest dealers in the country.
  • tgozdalski1tgozdalski1 Member Posts: 34
    Did anybody find 03 accord dx with manual or automatic transmission on dealer lot?
    Tom
  • mdx_kidmdx_kid Member Posts: 33
    The service has been very good. Give them the lowest price after calling Alberta Honda and Frontier Honda and tell them that's what you want to pay. We gave them 32200 as Alberta honda price but told them that they don't have the color and finalised the deal at 32300. Give a call to Frontier Honda they are good at pricing too (very upfront).
  • benbessbenbess Member Posts: 5
    I saw a 03 DX advertised for 13,999 here in Louisville. One only at that price, but what a deal. That's a car with ABS, 160 hp engine, stereo, etc. The only thing it really lacks that you have to have is ac.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    That's a great deal - but I've personally fallen for those ads before.

    Arrive at the dealership only to have them tell me that it's already been sold. Apparently, the advertisement was only for one car with a specific VIN that's printed in very small letters at the bottom of the ad. Would've been nice if they actually printed something like "Only one available at this price."
  • umyayaumyaya Member Posts: 123
    What area did you see the NAVI in? Any ideas out there about what you can get a NAVI for?
  • hoverdrivehoverdrive Member Posts: 16
    I am not in the market for one with NAV, but that is the one they chose at the dealership to take on a test drive. It seems to have a ton of functions. The voice directions are amazingly accurate.

    I am not sure what kind of price you can get for one; since they just came out (I live in the Northwest).
  • ssaclubssaclub Member Posts: 13
    Has anyone seen a NAV model with a manual transmission (i.e. 4cyl vs. 6 cyl) on a dealer's lot?
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    NAV with EX/EXV6 models only, correct?
  • confuseddesiconfuseddesi Member Posts: 23
    Can any one help me in identifying PROS/CONS over buying an Accord 2003 Vs CRV 2003.Just curious if these 2 were options that me and my wife have. More Specifically 2003 EXL accord Vs CRV EX 4WD.

    Thx
  • superman5superman5 Member Posts: 154
    I have just done break service @ pepboys few weeks ago, terrible customer service plus horrible products. I didn't want to pay too much to do it at dealer , pepboy was cheaper about ($60 cheaper)but ever since day 2, brake just squeaks all the time, worse than before. I took it back to pepboys, but they said it was normal. I will never do any work nor buy anything from pepboys, I would rather pay extra and do it at dealers. just needed to vent.
  • superman5superman5 Member Posts: 154
    If break squeaks like that all the time, how am I suppose to know when to change brakes besides from squeaking?
  • cds12cds12 Member Posts: 139
    The squeaking is normal with new breaks. It will eventually go away. It might take 1,000 or so miles depending on how hard you use your breaks.
  • reidjreidj Member Posts: 5
    Just like when the "normal" 2003 Accords first came out, deals on the pre-orders or first allocations of the Accords with the Nav system seem to be very slim. From people's comments at the time, it seemed you were lucky to get quotes just under retail/MSRP much less getting closer to invoice. This was especially true with the EX/EX-V6 models. It also seems to be this way right now. With dealers receiving only 2-4 cars with the nav system in the initial allocation, they have the luxury of charging that much.
    However, since September, the pricing on the accords seems to have become a bit more reasonable. Some people have been quoted prices within $500 of invoice (EX-V6) or even less. Here's a question, do you think the same is going to happen with the nav system vehicles? Of course the company line you get from the dealers is that the prices may stay the same or some are even optimistic enough to claim that once people get a taste of the nav systems that prices will even go up. It seems like a simple supply demand issue. On the supply side we have the following possible scenarios:

    1. Honda uses limited supply to keep demand and prices high. Something ala the Pilot. We are still talking about the Accords here though. Honda's bread and butter. Granted, as we move up the accord feature line LX->EX->EX-V6 we get a smaller percentage of Accord sales. I wonder if considers the EX-V6 nav to be close enough to the Acura TL line that they can afford to release fewer numbers, to maintain high demand.
    2. There just isn't the expected demand those that do sell are sold at a premium. I do not think that this is a very likely scenario.
    3. Scarcity will continue do to a lack of supply, due to either insufficient manufacturing capabilities and/or unexpected consumer demand. As said before, this seems to be the dealer standard argument to counter the idea of waiting.

    That last point takes us to the other side of the supply/demand. Will the demand be so great that the dealers can afford to keep prices high?

    I am obviously really interested in this because I plan to buy an Accord with a Nav system soon Sooner rather than later because my current car is starting to go on the fritz. The nav system, because I could probably get lost in my own house.

    Enough rambling, what do you guys think? What is going to happen with the nav-equipped Accords? Will the prices drop much like the previous 2003's or do you think that prices are going to maintain high?
  • fritz1224fritz1224 Member Posts: 398
    I don't think it's normal for them to squeal even when new. I think that's the normal response you get from the pepboy(midas, etc) people when you do return to complain. What they probably did was use a much harder pad or shoe(lifetime warranty?) which will last forever with the lifetime squeal included. I had mine done at a Honda dealer and they never squealed. I'm sure they used Honda pads which are probably softer and won't last a lifetime. But then neither does the squeal.
    Maybe I should have gone back and demanded my '1000 mile squeal'.
  • rleongrleong Member Posts: 41
    Yesterday we picked up our 2003 Accord LX. I want to install splash guard for the fenders and a plastic hood protector for the leading edge of the hood. I don't think Honda makes the plastic hood protector.

    Please let me know if anyone know a good Honda Accord accessory web site.

    Thanks,
    Raymond
  • jud95accordjud95accord Member Posts: 58
    Check out collegehillshonda.com. Their access. prices are cheaper than retail but there is shipping. I bought my husband a $99.00 trunk tray for his 2002 Accord Coupe for $39.00 plus 10.75 for shipping (no tax). It was a great deal! Also check out handaaccessories.com. Their mud flaps are 58.80 plus shipping. You can look at the installation instructions right next to the item you are interested in.
  • lsclsc Member Posts: 210
    The brakes are squeaking because you got aftermarket brake pads. They will squeal like that forever. It's not a break-in thing. My suggestion is that you go back to Pep Boys and complain and try to get your money back. Or make a deal to pay a little more to swap the pads w/ genuine HOnda brake pads that do not squeal.
  • inkyinky Member Posts: 370
    03 EX V-6. Avg since Sept is 26..5 Last tank 26.6 mpg. Lowest 25.5. Highest 28. No pure highway yet. Anyone go highway only for a tank? Use 87 Octane. Like the car more and more.
    INKY
  • ssaclubssaclub Member Posts: 13
    According to Honda's Website and Edmunds, NAV will be available in the 4cyl as well as 6 cyl, it's the only way to get it with a manual transmission in the sedan.

    I assume the V6's will arrive first, though.
  • s852s852 Member Posts: 1,051
    The only differences I can see besides the engine is that you need the V6 model to get side curtain airbags, power passenger seat (on 4-door models)and Homelink controls.
    The 4 cylinder EXL models now have heated seats, 6-CD audio system with steering wheel controls and automatic temperature control standard, unlike in 2002 when you needed the V6 model for those features.
    Even the GPS navigation will be available on the EXL.
    Any other differences between EXL and EXV6?
    If the 4 cylinder models are not too noisy, I might look at them.
    Maybe for 2004 or 2005, even the side curtain airbags will become available on the EXL.
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