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Lexus LS 400/LS 430



  • slexy1slexy1 Posts: 38
    Wwest, you had an estimate of 400,000 miles for the engine life, can you or anyone give me an estimate of automatic transmission life on my 1990 and 2001?
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Friction only comes into the equation during clutch engagement when "slippage" is present, but then the torque converter "absorbs" much of the gear change "shock". IMMHO shifting simply doesn't occur often enough for frictional heat to be an issue.

    I have always thought that not going into OD initially was to allow the catalyst to get up to operational temperature sooner.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    I'm guess that my '95 LS now at 250K+ will require a transmission overhaul by 300K. Except for $$$ it probably could use one now.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 58,502
    edited July 2011
    Seems to me driving in OD with a cold engine would heat the engine up faster but not in a good way. OD puts a lot of load on an engine, this very high gearing. But you may be right--I think Lexus does this on the RX so that *everything* gets up to operating temperature nice and easy.

    As for a transmission, I do think heat is enemy #1; this is why trans coolers are mandatory on "towing packages".

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  • 1stavy1stavy Posts: 18
    edited October 2011
    I just reached 406K miles! Replaced the radiator 40k miles ago, replaced the exhaust at 300k, alternator, fuel pump prior to 300k. Original tranny and engine. 50k yearly commute with 160miles daily highway for last 6-7 years. Looking at 09 Avalon Ltd in next two months and will leave the LS400 for my kid to drive as her first car.
  • lz4004lz4004 Posts: 37
    Where can i get rear coil springs?

  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    There are several sites on line that sell these pretty reasonably. Installing them is the hard part.....
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Wrecking yard.
  • Looking at a '92 LS with about 127K miles. While in Park, the car revs up just fine, but while driving it on the hwy, and the pedal on the floor, it won't go past 2,000 RPM. What could be causing this? It also has a power steering leak. Are there any common issues I should look out for? Thanks!
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Run. Unless that car is free, I wouldn't buy it. Also, the Power Steering pump is located directly above the alternator in that car, and when it leaks, it will take out the alternator as well. Run.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    edited December 2011
    No power for acceleration, but no CEL, often results from a plugged catalytic converter.

    The issue of the PS leak resulting in alternator failure is only an urban legend.

    The PS pump is highly prone to leakage and the alternator slip rings are of a marginal design.

    Many, most(?) owners folks ignore the realtively "minor" PS leak until the alternator fails and so the "technicians" have concluded that the leak leds to the alternator failure.

    Simply not the case.
  • Well actually the CEL is on......and the car is a family members so if I get it, I'm hoping to get it super cheap! I also want to fix it up (without spending a fortunate) so it is reliable.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Then use a paper clip to jumper the diagnostic connector and "read" the code(s).
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I still would avoid the car.
  • Looking at a 99 LS-400 with 67k, in very good shape for $8500.00 Anything to be wary of? Seems like a great deal.
  • Sounds like a great deal to me. I love my 95 LS-400. I've had it for 3 years, put on 35,000 miles, it had 145,000 miles, and other than changing the timing belt, water pump, and power-steering pump, it just runs and runs. All the little details, the instruments, work like they're brand new. Stereo rocks me silly.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 58,502
    Well sounds like a nice's not a "great" deal but with the low miles, it's a good deal. I did a search 'globally' for '99s and found that the average asking price was $ if we presume a 10% negotiation, that puts it at around $8900 selling price, private party. Dealers would be higher. And if we presume that some of the cars in that group would be higher miles than yours, we should add anotehr $500 premium to that, so $9400 would be "retail".

    So yeah, you're getting a bit of a deal on it.

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  • Ended up purchasing the car for $8,000.00 She needs a few things here and there but for the low miles and condition it is a great car.
  • saborgsaborg Posts: 1
    Have enjoyed my 2005 LS430 even after having to give up a GS because lease was up. Have driven the LS as I did the GS with almost the same degree of "really" driving. Currently has 80K miles and other than water pump @ 70K, everything else has been "usual".

    Decided to look for possible move to a hybrid SUV to replace this 19mpg 430. Just drove the RX450h. Really made me appreciate the LS all the more. RX is a "really" big truck and the hybrid side of it steals any thought of rapid acceleration. Found that I lost the sense of a "safe cocoon" around the vehicle - too much to watch out for.

    Anyway, the reason for writing this note is that trying "on" other car(s) made me return quickly, and with a continuing high regard, for 430.

  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Funny,...I gave up my LS because the RX felt much more like a "safe cocoon". Sit up higher so I look down on the bumpers of those big [non-permissible content removed] pickups. These days I'll trade acceleration for safety and FE any day of the week.

    But in truth I'm holding out for a hybridized Venza w/Atkinsonized DFI I4 and F/awd.

    Or maybe even an LS350 using the new GSes HSD system.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    edited March 2012
    I agree with some of those thoughts. I love the 3 LSes I've owned, including an 05. I think the RX is a "girls SUV" and would want a larger one were I to want an SUV. The LS is probably safer, being lower. The other thing I agree on is; the Toyota Hybrids are horrible off the line, or in any acceleration situation. Just unloaded my Camry Hybrid for that very reason. Great mileage, but you can get killed trying to get across the street.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Just as I would not allow my 10 YO, or teenagers, weigh in seriously on my choice of cars, I would NEVER allow someone else's "label" to bias my decision. I have owned a '98, a '99, and a 2000 Chryler T&C, all F/awd. Gave all of these to my daughter and she only recently sold the 2000 to some very old close friends, old with both meanings. She now drives a 2012 MDX.

    Lower is NOT safer insofar as being T-boned.

    At my age my driving style is always more in the range(***) of making judicious use of the brakes, not the accelerator. So our 1st gen Prius suits me just fine and I think the acceleration rate of the RXh & HH is a bit much.

    *** Not "fast" except on the highway, unless I'm driving the C4. Still not "fast" in city, except for often an acceleration level that makes my wife wish she had stayed home..
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    "..want a larger one.."

    I wish to go the other way, a hybrid Venza or maybe the upcoming Porsche Macan R/awd. I've been hoping, probably a waste, for a hybrid C-max with the Escape style F/awd.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Sorry, LSes simply do not die, our '95 is now well north of 300K miles.

    I was forced to give away (family, friends, employees) our '91, 2 '92's and most likely now our '95. Sell or trade is impossible since very few buyers/dealers appreciate the true/actual value. No one but a long term owner will understand the true value of a high mileage LS.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    LSes simply do not die, our '95 is now well north of 300K miles.

    Exactly right.
  • casino2casino2 Posts: 24
    No, I don't think water pump last that long. You can take a chance not replacing it, but the risk is very high. It is suggest the the water pump needs to be replace, since it involved the timing belt. You will saved on the labor charges.
  • mheni1mheni1 Posts: 41
    My 2006 LS 430 is getting a little old. Am looking at a 2012 LS 460. Would appreciate comparison feedback on 430 v. 460. Am particularly concerned about driver seat room in 460. I am 6'2" and 240 lbs with multiple joint issues from extended Army time and arthritis. Limited neck mobility in terms of getting into and out of 460. 460 door frame seems lower that 430.
    Thanks so much.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    It may be too late - I had 2 430s and an 09 460 now. No comparison, to me. The 460 is hands down the most comfortable seat I have ever owned in a car. You should love it. Way superior to the 430s. The 460 is a smidge lower in the roof, you have to duck a little more to get in, but it's not been a problem. I'm 6'0". Highly recommend the 460 in every way.
  • casino2casino2 Posts: 24
    I agree with your theory. I planned on doing the same thing with my 2003 LS 430 certified preowned purchased. I've asked many mechanics about the longvity of a Lexus and the say up to 500,000 miles. It all depends on how you take care it. I also have a 2001 Lexus RX 300 which was purchased brand new. I am still own it. I want to see exactly how many miles can Lexus go.
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