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Honda Accord Problems 2000-2005

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  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    ...but not unheard of. What this means is that the various "layers" that make up the radial tread begin to delaminate from the body of the carcass of the tire. It is rare in new radials, even rarer in Michelins, but rare is not the same thing as "never". There is still so much handwork in the manufacture of radial tires [this is only gradually changing - several tire makers are experimenting with radical new approaches to making radials] that even the best will occasionally put bad tires in the field.

    I'm still betting on at least one of your tire/wheels being noticeably out of round or not straight enough. You said they already replaced one bad wheel - my guess is that there was more than one, but having found a really bad one, they declared victory and let it go at that. The dealer's followup plan makes sense - at least you now have their full attention.
  • cokane5227cokane5227 Posts: 117
    i always wanted michelins like they put on all other accords (at least the ones i've seen), the mine has bridgestones which i'm not happy with, i always prefer the high quality michelin tires, but when i bought the car, all the cars on the lot had bridgestones, so i thought honda stop putting michelins on their accords which i later found out that it's not true.
    i hope the dealer will just give me a whole new set of wheels with michelins on them, lol.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    ...the Bridgestones are always lumpier than the Michelins.

    I presume that means you have an LX V6 or a DX 4 - the rest of the model line comes with Michelins.

    I assume that also means you have steel wheels, not alloys - that also helps explain the wheel runout problems - these are extremely rare with the Honda OEM alloys, but the stamped steel wheels are a lot easier to bend.

    More than ever, I am convinced that your problem is a relatively simple one, if you can just get a caring tire/wheel person to spend some careful time looking at the roundness and wobble of each of the tire/wheels. I know you have a bad one.
  • cokane5227cokane5227 Posts: 117
    hehe ........ actually i have a EX coupe, that's why it's strange i have bridgestones, and on that day all the accords on lot had bridgestones, from DX to EX-V6, all the same.
    i have the 5-spoke 15 in. kind alloy wheel which they've already replaced one of them.
    the thing is, when i bought it, i carefully test drove and checked everything, it was perfect, i couldn't find anything that warned me of potential problems, when i test drove i brought the car up to 90mph and it was smooth as silk. i went home and lived as the happiest guy on earth for 2 days then on the 3rd the vibration appeared, that's when my so-far 9 months and 16,000 miles chase for a mechanical-problem-free car began, i understand it takes a few times for the service dept to find out exactly what's wrong and find the cure, but GOD I HATED IT! and that's while listening to my friend with the 94 accord saying "i think i have the most reliable product honda's ever produced, lol!" he's a nice guy though. =)
    well, whatever they are going to do, i just sincerely wish that they fix the problem ASAP. good luck to myself. =)
  • mentiyamentiya Posts: 17
    I Don't know a whole lot about cars, but I think something might be wrong with my 1998 Accords Transmission. It's an automatic but it shifts really hard. I didn't notice anything of that nature when I purchased it back in Feb. 2000. This problem came about, about 3 months ago.It has currently about 53,000mi. When I press on the gas it definately doesn't take off like a V-6 should and then when it finally makes that shift it is jerky. I took it into the Honda dealership about a month ago when my check service light came on. The car was really shifting bad and had a lot of hesitation upon take off at that time. They replaced a shift control solenoid. And then they told me it was fine. It was better but I can still feel the rough shifting. If anyone has advice for me on this subject I would greatly appreciate it.
  • dmacneilldmacneill Posts: 20
    I have been reading the discussion about warped rotors and the recommendation that a torque wrench should be used when tightening the lug nuts. Can someone tell me what is the recommended torque setting for the 2002 Accord EX-V6? Thanks.
  • lbrosslbross Posts: 24
    Own a 2001 LX Sedan with auto trans. When in gear (D4 or D3) the car rolls backward when I take my foot off the brake -- just like a manual transmission. This can't be right. Anyone else have this problem? Dealer says there's nothing wrong. Probably need to go to another shop.
  • tntitantntitan Posts: 306
    should be listed in the owner's manual.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    You can safely use 76 foot-lbs as a base for the alloy wheels. Anything from 76-80 ft-lbs is the usual spread for these cars, as long as all 16 or 20 bolts get the same torque on the same day at the same time.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,665
    Most cars will roll backwards if you take your foot off the brake. Just use the brake pedal!
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Posts: 2,882
    Just my .02 cents worth here. I have a '99 CRV that had a vibration at about 60-65 mph and higher. This started after about 35K miles. I lived with it for another year until the tires were shot and bought a set of Michelin X-Ones. Awesome tire and now no more vibrations. I believe the old tires had become slightly out of round to cause the vibration.
  • bburton1bburton1 Posts: 395
    Yeah if you want to get a really good and reasonably priced tire for your accord-go with the X-One. superb wet traction, very good snow performance. So much better than the crappy MXV4's that came on my accord-night and day. Course if you only drive in town and never push the driving envelope-then your tire choice is probably not relevant.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Posts: 801
    Just to expand on what isell said, most auto cars will roll backwards if you are on a steep enough incline. If it is only a slight incline, it should hold.
  • cokane5227cokane5227 Posts: 117
    i would love if my car doesn't roll forward on a level ground when in D, i just don't like the automatic transmission pulling the car forward characteristic, i thought all automatic would pull forward, but if yours doesn't, then it sounds great to me.
    can we trade? haha, just kidding.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,436
    Any thoughts on using prestone anti-freeze. It is a 3 hour drive to the nearest Honda dealer for me, and I would rather not do it just to get Honda fluid. Will prestone hurt my car? it says it is good for all cars.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,769
    ...are all over the place today. They are not all compatible will all cars. Honda dealers can be strict regarding warranty claims if improper fluids are used.

    I'd say take the time to drive to the dealer and pick up a couple of jugs.

    Good Luck
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Posts: 2,882
    You should be able to pick up the right type of anti-freeze at your local auto parts store. I don't have the particulars, but I know it is available. I think Prestone Extended Life 5/150 Antifreeze/Coolant is compatible. Look for the terms DEX or extended life.
  • cokane5227cokane5227 Posts: 117
    just got back from the dealer, again got up at 7:30am, went there and, surprise! the guy who told me to come in this morning to see him took the entire day off, as i stood there pretty pissed off (i'm extremely sensetive about doing what you said), another advisor approached and asked if i needed any help (he has seen me at the service for tons of times), so i explained the situation to him trying my best to not to want to beat up somebody, i guess he got a little scared because he called the service manager, i've seen him for 2 times, very nice guy, helped me out a lot about my rattle problems before.
    i think i was still wearing an ugly face when he came out because he lifted his eyebrows a little as he saw me, but he showed a lot of care, asking me what was wrong (knowing that ugly face means something is wrong), i explained what happened to him again and when i finished he said "hey, don't worry, i'm here, let's go for a ride", so we went on a ride, as soon as we went on the freeway he said "i know exactly what you are talking about, i feel it, but it's a road feel, let me show you.", so we went back to the dealer, as we got out of the car he said "go pick another 4cyl coupe, when you find it, get the number on the tag and come back, i'll be waiting in the sales room."
    so i went out there and found myself an exact same car (even the color's the same), i went back to him, he got the key and we went on for another ride, here's the amazing part.
    as soon as he started the engine, i heard a much higher engine whinning than my car, then once we got going, the engine noise was way more noticeable than my car, killing the exaust note which is music, and the transmission has much softer shifts while mine has strong and solid shifts, onto the freeway now, at 55mph the "road feel" is already very obvious, at 70mph it feels like my car going at 90mph, and this is a brand new car with 2 miles on it, although the suspension feels a little more stiff which i like, but hell, my car's a whole lot better than this one. on our way back, he explained to me "the bent wheel was a real problem, but this is just the road feel, a characteristic of this car. the reason you thought it was perfect when you test drove is because you didn't notice it, then when you started driving everyday you began noticing it, why do i know this? because i'm the kind of guy that does the same thing."
    i'm the guy that seeks for an answer, i'm sick of all those "there's nothing wrong" comments, it doesn't take much time for them to explain to me why "there's nothing wrong" but nobody ever did that, even when i asked. but the service manager knew exactly what i wanted and took care of it. i think he's a really nice guy and a very successful service manager =P, also he should be a pretty great father (he has a son my age with a new civic si, and his only wish is for his son to keep talking to him, lol!)
    thanks for all the support and advice, appreciated it.
    special thanks goes to auburn63, jrct9454, and isellhondas.
    i think i understand isell's opinions a lot better now, when you see a thousand "piece of chunk" every month, you do see a lot more, and thanks to him because of his first time in believing in my complain.
    if you'll excuse me now, i have to call my friend to tell him that he doesn't have the best product honda's every produced anymore, because i do! =)

    PS. it's funny how my opinions totally changed in an hour. =P
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    But this experience illustrates the risks of trying to do trouble-shooting over the internet.

    And a final note: when you can spend the money [about $400-500], I think you will be amazed how much better the car will feel with a new set of Michelin X-Ones on it. I personally was a bit stunned by the negative difference I perceived between our '01 EX v6 with Michelin MXV4s [smooth and stable at all speeds, if a bit coarse with the road noise] and an LX V6 with Bridgestones [much more vibration, rougher ride, no perceptible benefit in any area except they were cheaper for Honda to buy]. How you wound up with an EX that had Bridgestones as OEM is still a mystery to me, but I can assure you that you will think you've bought a much better car when you can get those tires replaced with touring Michelins.

    Which dealer have you been using, by the way?
  • cokane5227cokane5227 Posts: 117
    yes, i believe that i will get michelins as soon as i have the extra money for tires, i'm just really glad to know that mechanically my car is still holding together very tight.
    the dealer is El Cerrito Honda in CA, it's in the east bay, next to highway 80.
  • th83th83 Posts: 164
    I've had my '02 Accord EX V6 for two weeks now and have driven it 480 miles. Recently, within the last 100 miles I've noticed that the transmission clicks pretty loudly when shifting from P to R, P to D, and D to R. Is this normal? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,665
    The last post is a good example. The click that th83 is hearing is *probably* nothing...just a normal sound.

    But now, other owners will probably listen for this "click" the next time they get into their Accord. If there is, in fact, a "click" they may jump to the conclusion that something horrible is wrong.

    Another good example is the opinion of some folks regarding the Michelin MXV4 tires. I have read here that some people think they are horrible. I happen to think mine are just fine. After 45,000 miles, they still look almost new. I've had zero traction problems with them either in spite of Seattle's rainfall.

    But, are there better tires? No doubt!

    Hopefully, we are smart enough to filter through some of this stuff...
  • mentiyamentiya Posts: 17
    When the brakes are applied I have a horrible schreechy noice coming from the back. Noticed the noise right after new brake pads were put on back brakes. Noise isn't as noticible when they are wet after a rain. Any info? Thanks
  • cokane5227cokane5227 Posts: 117
    my car has the click sound too, not only i don't think you should worry about it, IMO, i like it a lot, actually my car makes that click everytime after shifting from 2nd to 1st to a stop. i like the sound of that click, it sounds like "advanced mechanical technology" to me. OIMO though.
  • cokane5227cokane5227 Posts: 117
    from what i know, any aftermarket brands of brake pads other than HONDA OEM pads could produce a lot of noise. also, harder pads are more likely to produce noise while softer pads produce more brake dust.
    my friend's accord starting making a lot of noise about 3 months ago when braking, he even took it to the shop for an inspection, but they found nothng wrong, later i remembered that he hadn't washed his car at all for 4 or 5 months, so i kind of "washed" his brake rotors, i used the wheel cleaner i used to clean rims, i sprayed them on the rotors, let it stay for a few minutes then spray it off with water, for about a total of 3 times. after that everything was fine, no more noise.
    but that's just what i did, i don't know if it would be harmful to the rotors and pads or anything like that. do it at your own risk.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    The noise you're hearing in the transition in and out of park, reverse, and drive, is indeed normal and common among these cars.
  • cokane5227cokane5227 Posts: 117
    hi jrct9454
    after reading your post i thought about it and decided to starting shopping for new tires, these bridgestones aren't worth too much anyways so i might just get a new set of michelins and be done with it.
    here comes my question, you mentioned the Michelin X-Ones, i checked it out at tirerack.com and it seems like they are winter tires, i live in the bay area and we don't get any snow here although it does rain a lot throughout the winter. under these conditions, would you recommend the x-ones over the mxv4 plus VRs? because i know if i get MXV4, i'll go for top of the line VRs.
    the x-ones certainly seem a lot cheaper than the MXV4 plus VRs, but they are only rated TR and i have no experience with them so i don't know if they are better than the MXV4s.
    again, i barely know anything about the comparison between these 2 tires, so if you can help me out, if would be great.
  • alcanalcan Posts: 2,550
    If you're looking for high performance all season tires, check the reviews of Bridgestone Potenza RE950's at Tirerack.com. Easy to find, they're #1 on the list of 25 brands reviewed:


    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/hpas.jsp

  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    X-Ones are NOT winter tires - they are all-season touring tires, and top-rated by everyone who has them. CU just rated them at the top in their last tire test.

    Yes, they are indeed T-rated; the MXV4s on the Accords are H-rated for 4 cyl cars, and V-rated for 6 cyl cars. In practical terms, it makes no difference, unless you plan to exceed 120 mph and SUSTAIN THAT SPEED FOR MORE THAN 30 MINUTES.

    X-Ones will ride better, be quieter, and last longer than MXV4s. However, the latter will handle better, and as noted, are better suited to extremely high-speed driving. Both will be better suited to the car than the Bridgestones you have, which are prone to flat-spotting, and as you have already discovered, tend to ride like rocks.

    Since vibrations and ride quality were an issue, I didn't bother to include things like the tires mentioned in post 2879, since these are designed for handling first, and everything else, including wear, next. The stiffer carcass of a pure performance tire is achieved with materials that make the tire harder to live with on broken pavement, and will run the risk of flat-spotting if left for more than a few days without getting warmed up.

    Given your problem that got this whole discussion started, you want to focus on one of the two Michelins [X-one or MXV4] - which one depends on how much of a trade-off between ride and handling you want, and how much wear you want. Properly rotated, X-Ones will go 70k miles or more [they are warranted for 80k], whereas MXV4s will last 40-50k, or a bit longer in the hands of a careful driver.

    There are a gazillion tire choices out there, and like oil discussions, these debates can start to border on religious matters rather than anything more objective. To the extent you have a car with a sensitive chassis, and vibrations are the issue, you want one of these two Michelins. I promise you that the difference will be a revelation in the way the car feels in everyday driving. [If you want something for the track, there are lots of better choices.]
  • pblevinepblevine Posts: 858
    Are the X-Ones part of the "Pilot" series? But that's not my question. My V-Rated MXV4s are now at 34K miles and I'm slowly starting to research replacements. TireRack.com seems to recommend the Dunlop SP Sport A2's which are H Rated. Do you know anything about them and the A2's vs the X-Ones. I'm a daily commuter and would like a quietier ride but also need a slightly better performance tire. The MXV4s exhibit 'radial runout' (folding over) during quick turns. Any other opinions are welcome. 'Have a great Fourth!
    :)
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