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Note the alloy wheels, I like them much better than what I've seen on the 2002 ES300. Does anyone know if Lexus plans to offer more than one alloy wheel?
http://www.toyota.co.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/Windom/index.html
All of the pictures of the Windom have the EXACT same 9-spoke wheels as the ES 300 has. Only that one wheel will be offered.
They are nice wheels!
By the way, did you see the antennas offered in Japan that raise from the front corners of the car to help you park? Those are neat.
I would prefer an option, something similar to the wheels on the GS430. Don't really car for the ES300 wheel. I think Lexus could have done more there. A five spoke wheel would have been nice.
Do you know the wheel size? 16" I wonder if a GS430 wheel would fit on the new ES300?
Check again. It should say 60K check timing belt. Not change.
Dave
Chip
But it's worth every penny, the ES that is.
Enjoy yours! I love mine.
Chip
http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/ToyotaCamry/Photos.htm
Saw a Camry XLE 6cyl for only $31,970 USD.
No additions to the original sticker.
BTW, re: gas mileage. I have a 98 ES300 with 22K and it averages 17-19 in town and 28-30 on the road. My wife drives the car daily (3 miles to work), so the in-town mileage is not as high as it could be because of the short trip - lot of stops. This car is by far the best I have ever owned. My wife wants a RX300 next, so I will wind up with the ES300.
Fred, I think you are running out of time for a 2001 ES300. Went to dealer in N. CA. last week. When I bought mine, March '01, dealer had maybe 15-20 ES's on the lot. Last week only saw 4. None were Coach edition.
tclemons, 28-30 mpg? That's great. What octane are you using? What speed do you and your wife drive on the freeway? I just put 100 freeway miles (70 mph) and about 120 city on my '01 ES. I got 24 mpg on 87 octane.
Chip
There were several new ES 300s, many pre-production protoypes. I think there were seven of the nine available colors there.
There were two courses, a luxury-oriented one and a sportier one with more twists and turns. Other cars on hand to drive were the MB E320, MB C320, BMW 325i, Lincoln LS, Acura 3.2TL and a Volvo. Plus there were a bunch of 2002 IS 300 SportCrosses on a separate track.
Bottom line: I love this car. The exterior is very different with lots of character; it looks like a more expensive car. Head on it resembles a MB S-Class. Power is very good. It did not feel slower than any of the competitors and felt very quick compared to my 1995 ES. The steering has been firmed up a bit, although it does not handle like the BMW. The interior simply blows away anything else that was there. Nice little touches abound, such as the rain-sensing wipers, hook on the right side of the console, light inside the center console storage compartment, leather panel over the rear cupholders, etc. I am sure this car will be a success.
Thanks for the info. Ron
The ride is very close to an LS. Of course it will be a little different because it is a smaller car. But it felt real similar, with a much smoother, quieter ride than my 1995 ES but with better handling and firmer steering.
I can honestly say that I haven't had one problem with the car. I don't take to my Lexus dealer for service, I have a good friend who is ASE certified master mechanic. I change oil every 7000 miles with synthetic. Did major service at 85K, replaced timing belt...brake job..etc.
I get comments all the time on how my car looks just as good as showroom. I thought about trading last year but couldn't justify the big $$ for a new ES...simply because my 96 drives like new.
Just bought Goodyear Aquatred 3's. Absolutely unbelievable tires....especially in wet conditions. I've never had a tire that plowed right through the puddles without even a hint of hydroplaning.
The older ES is awesome, if you can find one as good as mine.
Good luck!
Did you feel any noticeable improvement in interior head/leg room in front/back seat? My only pet peeve about the ES is that is has so much less interior room than LS.
Any other thoughts on the 02 ES would be enjoyed. Thanks.
Some neat little observations:
1. There is a sunglass holder above the rearview mirror (I think the 2001 has this too).
2. There are now separate reading lights in the same panel, one for the driver and one for the passenger.
3. There are beautiful metal scuff plates at all four doors that say Lexus.
4. If you are in the car and the door is locked, you do not need to unlock the door to open. Simply pulling the inside handle unlocks the door (although the dealer can change this if desired).
5. There is no keyhole on the outside front passenger door handle.
6. There is a light inside the center console between the front seats.
7. There is a neat trip computer under the speedometer with controls on the steering wheel.
8. The wood is simply gorgeous.
9. There is a leather cover that hides the rear seat cupholders when not in use (they're in the center armrest).
10. I think the daytime running lights can be turned off, but I'm not positive on this.
11. The compass in the rearview mirror is neat.
12. There is a hook on the passenger side of the center console that retracts to hold a purse or small grocery bag from sliding around.
13. Since it was raining that day, I have to say the rain-sensing wipers work very well. The wipers were on when a puddle splashed the windshield and all of a sudden the wipers switched to high for a minute to clear the extra water. Also, the side water-repellent windows work nicely as well.
14. There are rear seat air vents.
15. In the current ES, if you have the AVS, the cupholders block the switch when in use. In the 2002 the cupholders block nothing.
16. The coat hooks in the back are improved and retract from the headliner.
A few days before the event I went to a Toyota dealer to check out the new Camry. While I think the Camry is a great car, there are NO similarities between it and the 2002 ES anymore in terms of looks. The 2001s did kind of look alike, but that didn't bother me. But the new ones are just completely different all the way around.
Keep in touch with any additional thoughts.
Appreciate it!
Does anyone have any experience with this company or have they got a similar lease through Lexus Finance?
http://www.leasebanc.com/eloan/leasenow/quickquote.php?FQID=CBC50506-F63B-11D4-B4D7-0002B30AE45E
It's unrealistic, that's all.
Those few options do not add up to the MSRP they listed at $36473.00, but it might be a good deal if it still is the cost they listed.
If I can get it for the monthly cost they listed with no cap reduction, I may take it anyway.
That still is almost $2K below invoice so it might not be possible. I'll know if this is a sleazy company that uses bait and switch in a day or two when they contact me with the price.
they said to expect pricing of around $39K
although here is what I expect
32K--base MSRP with destination (32,050)
This time it has moonroof standard
$500 for HID, $400 for heated seats--$5000 for nav/mark levinson and atleast $1500 more for leather
you can easily shoot to 42K with chrome wheels etc but my dealer says they are confident it will remain $40K or less to not compete with GS300 sales
Two colors I a opting for are Mystic sea green and Black garnet--will let you know when I get either
Are you sure about the moonroof being standard? I thought it was still optional.
I saw both colors you are considering in person at the 2002 test drive two weeks ago. The Mystic Sea is a little dull but still sharp, although you almost never see an LS or GS in that color even though it's offered. The Black Garnet was REAL nice.
I want mine in silver with a black interior.
at Town Center at Boca Raton- Nordstrom's Wing on Sept 12th at 7pm.
Last note, Tokyo retail prices range from Y3.2-3.86 million (US$26,685-32,190)for the Windom. Also, if you want to see Toyotas that will probably end up being Lexus models, check out
"auto-asia.com" and take a look at the Brevis and Verossa models.
I doubt the Brevis or Verossa will be Lexus models any time soon. They are priced similar to the ES and IS, and there is no room in the Lexus lineup for four cars all priced about the same. That's my opinion, but I do agree those look like nice cars.
folks, I got the es brochure--it says moonroof is standard
now for the price
assuming
base+ destination is still 32,050
nav and mark levinson will be atleast 5K (actually it is 7k with leather on Gs 300)
now heated seats =400
HID are packaged with rear shade= 550?
adaptive suspension=1000
trc and brake assist with VSC=600
chrome wheels =1700
so that could be lot of moolah