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We'd like to buy a 2002 Envoy but during the test drive (~75 miles) she noticed that with the seat up (vertically) and almost all the way forward (where she has to have it to reach the pedals), the center console does not reach far enough forward to provide any sort of arm rest. The left side arm rest built into the door is just fine. The 2000 Envoy armrest estends further forward than the 2002 and she finally figured out what was different after driving it for a few miles.
My Denali has fold down arm rests on the inside of the seat but the 2002 Envoy doesn't.
Any ideas on how to cope with this as everything else is just fine. Are the such items (folding arm rests) available as aftermarket items?
LG99
nah, nah, na, na, nah
It is going to be a while till they learn how to fix things on those cars - yes cars, it drives almost like a car (I had a Blazer & a Tahoe before)
-Alan
or ....
"Don't argue with a fool or a liar" .... I won't elaborate )
And...I really don't give a crap what you think
Have a slap happy day and try not to go postal.
hugs and kisses,
Kirk
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Go to gmpartsdirect.com and enter 12497681 and 12497680. They are the Bravada running boards in black and clear (unpainted, I think) versions. They are different from the TB and the Envoy's. They will fit but won't look as nice. You can get the Bravada boards for $354.35 delivered at that web site. You can then take them to your favorite mechanic or body shop and have them installed for about $50.
I've learned alot by following the chatter here - thanks everyone. I'm very close to purchasing an Envoy or Trailblazer. I'd welcome any opinions why I should choose one over the other, is there a significant difference between a 3.42 and a 3.73 axle ratio, and if I'm getting 4WD and NOT going SERIOUSLY off road, do I need the limmited slip differential? Thanks again.
I just test drove a TrailBlazer with a 3.42 axel ratio. What a waist of power! That Trailblazer drove like it had a inline 4 instead of 6. If buying this vehicle, don't get anything other than the 3.73 or 4.10 ratio. Holy cow!
Dealer will do what ever to correct for me. Are there acceptable aftermarket solutions that anyone has experienced? Suggestions?
I been following the pricing for awhile. In today's Houston Chronicle the dealers are offering between $2500 and $4000 off MSRP. I'm guessing that this approaches invoice, or perhaps even slightly below invoice. This pricing may be situation specific, as Houston suffered from tremendous flooding in June, and I would imagine the insurance checks for people who lost cars to flooding are starting to arrive.
Oddly enough, I haven't seen any ads showing $$$ discounts off MSRP for either the Envoy, or the Bravada. I believe that I read somewhere, it could have been here, that Olds is offering 5/60 warranty as a standard item. This compares to the 3/36 for Trailblazer and Envoy. Good luck!
Chris
Good luck with your Envoy!
Thanks.
ME
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Another problem I had was with the left headlamp reflector being loose when I hit a bump in the road the headlight beam will shake. My dealer ordered a whole new head lamp assembly which hasn't come in yet. Other then those two problems the truck runs great also I've found out that women love the way it looks. I've gotten ALOT of comments from women on the way it looks. they love it! Iv'e gotten more comments on the truck then on my camaro when that was new.
As for the shop/service manual according to the e-mail I got from helms It hasn't been made yet and they have a contact list started when it becomes available. anyone intrested in the shop/service manual might want to e-mail helms. The service manager at the dealership told me all he has is a CD-ROM manual on the trailblazer.
Dale
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I read that the DVD player won't be available until fall, anyone heard anything different?
From the brochure, it likes like you might lose the sunroof when you opt for the DVD player, but it's kind-of hard to tell. Does anyone know?
-- thx
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=3751&n=156,178&sid=178
The first production run of Polo Green is scheduled for the week of August 6, so mine should be one of the first green Bravadas on the road. There has been a test production run of 100 vehicles with DVD player, so someone out there should already have one. DVD system production, again, should begin in earnest in August.
Any advice?
Things could be worse, you could be living in Texas where you would have to deal with Gulf States Toyota. This is the regional Toyota authority that adds all sorts of needless windowdressing to Toyotas that few people want (i.e.VIN window etching?). The catch is that you CANNOT give the Toyotas without the "add ons". You're forced to take them this way. How this is not in violation of antitrust laws is beyond me!
Anyway, good luck to you.
Just read a mag article which overall praised the TB, but criticized the front seating as allowing side to side motion. In the Envoy, I found no bolstering in the front seats, and thought I was rolling left and right depending on the road curve. I am not sure if this is the exact same problem in the TB, but the writer of the article said the Envoy seating did not have the side to side motion problem the TB seating has.
If anyone might kindly post their observations on TB vs Envoy seating, it would be a big help in our purchase decision.
I'd put it this way: compared to my old S-Blazer and a Dodge Intrepid I used to have, it's pretty solid and holds me down well. Compared to an old Saab I had (a 9000s) about 10 years ago, it's mush. The way I drive, the seat is more than solid enough for my tastes.