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The front brakes do more of the work because they have to. The weight distribution of the vehicle while it is stopping (car leans forward - puts even more weight on the front, reduces weight load on the rear) demands that the front brakes do most of the work. This is why the front rotors are almost always larger than the rear.
If you try to do more stopping with the rear that you should, the rear wheels would have a tendency to lock up, which would create loss of control.
I am very interested to hear your opinion of wagner pads as time passes.
Don't get me wrong guys, the M is not getting replaced. It's just this car was so neat. If fact, it's the first hybrid car that is styled like the regular Civic and doesn't look like crap, as in the Toyota Pruis or Honda Insight. Oh and not only will the car save us $1000 a year in gas, you also get a $2000 tax credit from the government on your tax return!
Okay, sorry, back to 300M talk.........
I was thinking of you yesterday. I saw the Sears TV commercial for this big tire deal. The lady is at the counter telling the service guy- I want a free alignment. He says OK. She says, I want free balancing. He says- no problem. It goes on and on something like this and then she says- I also want a Diehard battery! He says- NO problem! It was pretty funny.
I don't suppose you asked for ANYTHING free? Wipers, windshield washer fluid?? LOL...
fastdriver
A married couple is driving down the interstate doing 55 mph. The husband is behind the wheel. His wife looks over at him. "Honey, I know we've been married for 15 years, but, I want a divorce."
The husband says nothing but slowly increases speed to 60 mph.
"I don't want you to try to talk me out of it, because I've been having an affair with your best friend, and he's a better lover than you."
Again the husband stays quiet and just speeds up as his anger increases.
"I want the house also." Again the husband speeds up, and now is doing 75 mph.
"I want the kids too." The husband just keeps driving faster and faster, now he's up to 85 mph. "And I want the car, the checking account, and all the credit cards."
The husband slowly starts to veer toward a bridge overpass piling as the speedometer reaches 90 mph. "You're taking this incredibly calmly," the wife says. "Isn't there anything that you want?"
"No, I have everything I need."
"What's that?"
"The airbag."
EZ
Now I'm not saying don't get it. I spent a lot of time last year looking into the prius and was very dissapointed in the amount of car you get for the money. But if you love the car and the amenities - go for it! Just realize you won't really save all that much money, if any. But it is an environmentally sound car and it may be very nice (I haven't seen the civic - the other one they had was too small).
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Blonda -- When your wheels are off next time, check the shroud on the firewall above and forward of the tire where a rod goes through and let me know if you have any deterioration on the front part of the shroud. I am concerned that the 245 tires are rubbing there on tight turns and damaged the shroud. I'd like someone else running 245's to see if their shroud is chewed up a little too. Let me know please.
But it seems you are looking for reasons to get the car - if you like it, get it. It is environmentally sound - and that's a good thing. It is very quiet, and there won't be many of them on the road. If you do get it I want to visit and check it out
As for asking the techs about pricing, you can ask, but don't expect much I asked about the prius when we went in to look (posted this a while back) after talking to the tech he said,"it should last about 3 years and costs about the same as a regular battery." I gave him a look like he was from mars, but he didn't get it.
btw - Toyota has a 10yr/100k warranty on the battery (found out from an ad!) so check to see what they do offer.
But lets be honest here, there is NOTHING more exciting than driving a 300M!!!!! (Well, maybe a supercharged M would be more exciting. lololol)
hybrid - While I was waiting for the dealer to rob me on my speed sensor the TV in the lounge had a local auto program. They compared the Civic hybrid to the normal Civic. The price difference they stated was about $2k. They ran both on a dyno to get 0-60 times and the hybrid was not much slower. And I think you should do the math on the fuel savings vs the gas Civic, which means your difference is even smaller. I was figuring about $200/yr in savings. One other question I'd need answered before buying is how it would affect insurance rates (if at all). If I was in the market for an economy car, I'd give this one serious consideration.
Igor
But the insurance question is a good one.
I've done the math on the fuel savings, true it's not a major savings as far as a regular Civic goes, however I was comparing it to a minivan we have that gets a crappy 16mpg. Now that's a big difference.
I haven't checked on insurance yet,but in Ohio,insurance is not a big deal as far as prices go.
andy
On another note (trying not to be negative, just forgot this since it's been over a year since I looked into it) The prius had low-resistance tires and regenerative brakes. Both of which would have higher than normal maintenence costs. Ask about it on the civic.
But it really sounds like you like the car a lot - go for it
I don't recall seeing anyone else post about this problem in the last two years. Good luck with finding a fix!
Blonda--Yes, I think we are talking about the same area, where the rod goes thru the firewall. The extra width and slightly higher sidewall height on the 245/50's may be the culprit. I think I will chalk up the inside of the tire sidewall and do some tight turns to see if there is any transfer of chalk to the shroud area. I can live with the problem [don't know how the shrouds are held in place] if water, dirt, etc. does not get to someplace it shouldn't thru that shroud.
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Yep, the lady in the commercial gets everything for free! ;-)) MAYBE, they have to give her all that to sell the Goodyears? ;-))
fastdriver
How about a 300M "Special"?? ;-))
fastdriver
How long would I have to keep the GY's on my free special before I swap them out?? ;-}
Just until they started to pull LEFT!! That could be from day one! ;-))
fastdriver