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Honda Civic Si / SiR 2005 and earlier
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2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I would go with the Si, I like it better than the 5-door 3.
Those are both '04 models I am referring to there. If there are any '03 SIs left out there in Hondaland, I am sure dealers would go much lower than that to get rid of them, particularly with the updates Honda made from the '03 to the '04 SI.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
By the way, at the time I bought my 2002 Si (January 25th, 2003) It was advertized in the local papers at $15,300 from multiple dealerships. I paid $14,500 for mine, plus tax/title/licence ect. for the total of $15,500. Put $1000 down and financed the rest at 1.9% from Honda.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
When Civic Si first made its come back in April/May 2002, I looked at it, but could not justify its $19K sticker, and turned away.
There are benefits to buying an un-loved left over vehicle, price is one of the benefits. But on the upside, I have a 1 year old vehicle that is considered a two year old. Being that, I have to pay lower property tax on the two year old car, rather than higher taxes on one year old car. The trade-in base line is lower than a 2003, but I only have 12,000 miles and that brings the trade-in value up.
I was looking at the Accent, Matrix, ZX3, SVT, Si, RSX, and probably a few others that I forgot.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I don't know what I would pick if I was shopping now, although seeing as Miatas are in the paper at the same price I bought the Si (~$15,900), that is probably what I would get.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
gee35 - Out the door price is hard to compare between states, how much was your car before tax and license?
No fair! :-(
Until then the cars we do have are pretty darn cool, though! :-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
True, a B-series based Lotus would have bigger aftermarket potential, but the 2zz is still going to have enough juice to get just about anyone in lots of trouble.
I would think $17,7 would be about right for a new '04. Maybe you could do a little better, but the dealer and Edmunds agreed when I was pricing mine that invoice was almost exactly $18K flat. Plus the model has only recently been upgraded. There is an additional $500 holdback for dealers (at least there was a month ago), which would leave the dealer making about a $200 profit to sell you one at $17,7 (I am assuming you are including destination fee).
I have noticed my local dealer having the same problem as before - the SI's it has in stock just sit there looking glum. One has the words "Look! Side airbags!" printed in red so as to cover most of the windshield. Honda dealers haven't had a car this hard to sell since the last days of the Prelude.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
If the Si is what you want, go for it. The 2004 is a very nice package with the looks and wheel size improved to where they should have been when the Si was introduced.
It is fun to drive and I'll wish you luck that you do not have any of the problems I experienced with my 2002.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I highly doubt that the next Si will be Type R. First off, people are not going to pay $25K for a stripped down Si, with 40 more HP. I know I won't. As it is people complain that Si rides too stiffly, I imagine Type R has stiffer suspension. It lacks sunroof, and A/C, and radio is optional. Yes, it has 200 hp engine, and 6 speed box, but so does the RSX-S. And at $22K it comes loaded. If they bring CTR and sell it for the current Si MSRP, it may stand a chance.
Second, according to Temple VTEC rumor mill, the new Si will be a coupe.
Is it enough to sell the Honda at $2000-3000 more (U.S.)? Maybe not. I was thinking they could make a killing if they brought over the powertrain from the current type R, but left the equipment level intact, and called THAT the new SI. It would have to be roughly the same price though, which might be impossible unless they made the same changes to the RSX. They couldn't have a lower-powered RSX selling at a higher price.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Matrix has a high seating position, noticeable body roll, and an imprecise shifter. It is the utility vehicle of the group.
Mazda3 is better in both regards - in fact I think it has better handling than the SI, but a more punishing ride the rest of the time. And the Honda engine and shifter are still the best of the group, IMO. This is exactly the choice I was recently making - 3 vs Matrix vs SI. I ended up going with the dark horse, RSX, which I had driven two years ago and dismissed based on looks and interior space. But now I am more prepared to have less space inside to have the most fun and most balanced car of the group (again, IMO), and the looks hav grown on me.
I would say you get 99% of the RSX driving experience in the Civic SI, you just don't get that feeling that the car is wrapped around you like a sport skin (!!). But in place of that you get a car with a real back seat and space for four people, not to mention extra luggage space.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Like nippononly mentioned, Matrix is a OK, but not quite there. I personally did not feel that RSX was "car is wrapped around you like a sport skin" it felt more like sitting in a bucket. It has a low seating position and high window line. Si and Matrix on the other hand have lots of "green house" space.
Mazda 3 the 4 door looks like a puppy with its tail chopped off. I do like the looks of the hatchback though. But, Mazda has had its share of resale and reliability problems. I am rpetty sure, the 3 will have a $3000-$4000 rebate by years end, instantly plummeting your resale.
I bought a left over 2002 Si in 2003, got a really good price, and have not looked back. After a year, my theoretical (KBB, Edmunds, ect.) re-sale value is still higher than what I paid for it last year. On the "other" board there are people who have paid $15-16K for year old used Si's and are happy. I paid less for a brand new one!!!! I see no problem getting a year old car. When it comes to resale, you will get the lower value because of the year, but that will be compensated by the low milage for the year and still bring you up higher.
I had an auto accident couple of weeks ago. A guy hit my car from back. I have a damage estimated for about $1,050.00. This is mostly for rear bumper. Car Model is honda civic 3 dr hatchback '95. It has about 120,000 Miles on it.
Bumper shape is not that bad. Some color scratches and little broke at the edges. Car is running fine.
My question is: Is it worth repairing the car looking at the year and the miles on it.
I appreciate all your feedback. Thanks.
How is the exhaust clearance?
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showstoppersusa.com has a great price on the AEM, which is what I bought. It's hard to say how much improvement there was from it, because I made several modifications at the same time, but the sounds alone is well worth the price.