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With regard to your new purchase, I calculate that allowing $250 as the cost of that unwanted Toyo Protection Package, and assuming running boards are standard (aren't they?) that the dealer probably made about $695 on the vehicle, including their $299 admin fee, unless there were any other options like the leather steering wheel that I thought came on all SR-5s. Anyway, that does not sound like a bad price especially if you like the dealer.
I would not mind traveling to Mobile to pick up a new vehicle, so thanks for the tip on that dealer. I believe I am going to have to special order and that will be a lot more of a headache and why I have continued to postpone the purchase.
I paid $799 for a 5yr, 75,000 bumper to bumper warranty using the same terms as you described. I have a SE, V8 4x4. Get them down on price. And get it in writing.
BTW...I have a love/hate relationship with the service department. Some days good, other days it's worse than Jiffy Lube. Stay away from Toy of Durham like the plague. They are pure evil.
I was looking for a V6 but since the dealer didn't have any readily available and didn't want to let me leave, they decided to sell me one that was supposedly already marked for another customer. I guess it's first come first serve. Anyway, I ended up getting a Titanium V8 Sport with
Sunroof
DDCargo
Upgraded JBL
Preferred Acces pkg
I was happy with the price of 31,400. Bought it in Devon, PA.
The Dealer was decent and I am as thrilled with the ride and power as I thought I would be.
I traded my 974Runner with 96,000 miles on it.
Thanks to all who have posted here with their experiences and advice.
Drive safe
PS. Anyone know where I can get a nice looking front push bar with brush guards for the 04 Runner?
corancher "Toyota 4Runner Accessories" Jan 12, 2004 3:02am
Please continue the mod talk over there - thanks, and enjoy the new 4Runner!
Steve, Host
tidester, host
good luck with your purchase
I tried everything to get out of it, but I couldn't. I even went and called dealerships and said if you waive it I'll buy from you. When I bought mine it was included in the invoice. Did you actually see the invoice for your vehicle.
Congrats, i'm sure you will love the 4runner!
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2004 White V6 SR5 4WD with spoiler, sunroof, 17" wheels, RS3200 security system, preferred pkg.(mats, cargo net, first aid kit,cargo cover),exhaust tip,and roof rack.
MSRP $32025.
Paid $28760.
Paid $350 over invoice
Did not pay the $685 TDA ad fee.
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Simple math:
$350.00 paid over invoice
$640.00 Dealer holdback (2% of MSRP)
$600.00 Factory to Dealer incentive (Dec. 03)
$1590.00 Total profit minus $685.00 TDA = $905.00
Dealer made at least $905.00, maybe more.
Did they really give up the TDA? probably did, ...just were willing to forgo the profit from the incentive.
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glb2,
You did very well, better then most. I thought I had a good deal, you got about $500.00 more off then I did.
The dealer is in business to make money. Holdback and the factory to dealer incentives are something they usually never give up, you got some of that money from them!! Might contact you next time I am ready to shop?
Enjoy your Runner, it is a great vehicle.
The TDA can be any where from 500 to 800$ and some time includes MAF (Manufacturer Advertisment Fee). When i bought my 2004 4 Runner, i paid around 600$ of TDA/MAF combined. i was lucky to get the deal at 100 $ above invoice and paid no other fee.
X-REAS are speical Air Shock Absorbers to further smoothen the ride, specially in sports edition. many ppl feel no added advantage of this feature. i would say the diff is rather small.
For you to get the best deal, there can be 2 ways.Go to http://www.kbb.com and see the price of 4Runner, they also tell about incentives in whole US. From there note down the states giving special incentives, APR / Rebates etc etc and then go to http://www.buyatoyota.com and search vehicle with required options in a particular state. since Toyota works through distributers rather than factory direct to dealers. You may be able to get good price in certain areas. Also the incentives and rebates you can find on internet will tell you about particular region, with-in that region there are different TDAs and you might get a good deal from a particular Dealer in a TDA.
Bottom line, you have to spend some time on interet, make fone calls before you go in and buy. Also note that with-in region there are some dealrs who dont participate in TDA and advertise themselves, you may be able to get good deal from them, even though they charge their own 500 $ Advertisment fee, but you can always question it since they wont have the excuse that "this is not our money, we give it to TDA" etc.
asif
I think it was timing and luck. However, I'm curious about this $600 incentive that highlander7 mentioned.
They were surprised that I actually had this information.
I will try to locate that paperwork or site. It was possibly kbb.com or cars.com last month.
And it may have only been a regional incentive for the Northeast?
TIA
There can't be any better time to buy 4Runner.
asif
It drives great, can't be happier. Again, many thanks everyone.
I love this vehicle!.
On the actual sticker, MSRP is $735 and invoice $588.
Thanks
Rick
MSRP/Invoice
Cloth 3rd Row Seat: $735/$588
Leather 3rd Row Seat: $1195/$956
tidester, host
I don't think you'll get too far with an offer of 31,000. Demos do get discounted from Toyota but not that much.
You are comparing to 03's and this one is an 04.
Figure out what you would offer on a brand new one, then use the IRS mileage rate to figure out an amount to deduct from that price. That should get you in the right ballpark.
Just my 2 cents.
When I was looking at 03's (in December 2003), the dealers offered no discounts on the painted cladding models, only Toyota Canada's $1000 rebate on the V8 models as well as a discounted finance rate. Grey cladding fetched a $2000 rebate.
Hope this helps
example
MSRP 33868
Invoice 30547
Asking price 29868 + Tax + Tags + $200 processing fee
Can I get a better deal?
The options I have are:
Alarm System (PN)
Garage Door Opener (NJ)
Luggage Rack (DR)
Mirror (EC)
Power Outlet (NA)
3rd Row Seat (TH)
Spoiler (RF)
Leather Steering Wheel (NE)
17" Wheels (AW)
Accessory Package (Z1) - I actually didn't order this but it came this way from the factory so the dealer just threw it in
All-weather floor mats (not sure on the code or price)
Total MSRP was $32316. Paid $30350. Invoice $28654.
I'm not super happy about the price but the dealer had such great service and was the only one in the area willing to work with me on a custom order without charging me MSRP that I don't mind paying a little extra.
Took advantage of the 2.9% financing for the Chicago region (I'm up in Wisconsin).
Took the platinum warrenty for $970. Not sure about this but I plan on keeping the vehicle for a long time so hopefully it pays off. Although my last Toyota I had for 8 years would have never needed it.
The dealer metioned that while they had it in their showroom for a couple of days before I could pick it up that a lot of people were interested in it. Due mainly to the fact that it was an SR5 (and not a Limited) that had quite a few options that were not really available from Toyota anywhere (even though their brochure said that it was possible). Especially with no sunroof.
I got invoice and I went in armed with information. I had print outs from KBB, and edmunds saying what the invoice was. It still took a while, but I finally got invoice on the last day of the month.
Dealer name/location is fine. Thanks,
Steve, Host
I was actually going to get the gray interior but they had a black w/taupe one on the lot at the time (not with the options I wanted) and it looked great. That was the only one in three dealerships that I saw that had taupe. And I didn't see any stratosphere micas. Mostly titanium, galactic gray, and a few whites and blacks. Although I do know a guy who got a gold one from up here.
Bergstrom Toyota in Oshkosh and Kolosso Toyota in Appleton were both pretty horrid in terms of trying to do a custom order (Kolosso wouldn't even call me back). And my experience was consistent from what I heard of these two dealers.
I looked at the Lexus and love it...but it's over $10k more!