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Could you let me know how much the rebate was for? Thanks!
Correct, there is no such rebate issued from Mazda. Actually, there are no incentives, rebates of any kind for the Mazda3 issued by MNAO.
Are you guys in California? The car was bought from a dealer in the Bay Area. Maybe it varies by state or certain geographic regions? I'm not sure. Hopefully the rebate does come...the dealer and finance people said there was a rebate. If not, I have paperwork to prove it. Hope this helps!
Thats also weird that the dead line was June 30th, because last months programs and rebates ended July 5th. Unless there was something special about your region.
Are you sure this was not a dealer rebate?
Sincerely,
slaterac.
After a few fill up's, you will start to notice better gas mileage.
slaterac.
Congrats to you on being able to utilize that, wish I could have! But I can't complain because I ended up with the Mazda 6 for 3500 under invoice and a few extras added on. I'm now looking at the Mazda 3 for my parents, so hopefully they will be driving in style soon!
Mazda 3 i touring AT with
1. sunroof + 6 cd changer package and
2. ABS package
What do you think??
yes
I got the 3 s Touring 5-door, 5-speed manual, Titanium Gray, no options. I got the Touring because I wanted the side airbags. Since the 5-door has the 17" wheels standard, they air bags are actually the only things the Touring model adds to the standard 's'.
Anyway, for under $17k out the door I got an amazing car. After 16 years of driving, this is my first non-Honda/Acura vehicle and I couldn't be happier with it.
Kinda wish I'd sprung for the sunroof/6CD changer though.
I would like to see it return nationally. It helped us make some deals.
That is up to you...if you feel its the car for you, the dealership is professional, the price is what you want to pay and its in your budget they go for it.
I would just double check with the dealer before you drive down there. There are many tales of folks getting one quote and a dealer tries to pull a fast one once they have you there. That said, that is a great deal, and if it is for real I would jump on it fast.
If you do put a deposit down make sure it is refundable. If it is not, I smell a rat....
When I am undecided about a major purchase, I always feel it is best to wait. Things seem to work out better that way. Of course, that is just how I see it.
What is changing about the warranty?
That is below invoice, on even the most expensive model...
Why would he do it? Of course, I don't know...
But, it could be that....
1) He is willing to dip into holdback to make deals..
2) He is overstocked on inventory, and would still have leftover Mazda3s on the lot, when the '07s come in..
3) He is facing a cash crunch and needs to move inventory to pay back loans.
4) He gets a volume incentive from Mazda, based on the number of units he moves this month..
I don't pretend to know the business model for every dealer, but you can find deals out there on many different models that are at Invoice - Incentives - Holdback.. Does that make any sense? Perhaps not, but GM sells more cars in the USA than any other manufacturer, and still loses money on each one.. That doesn't make any sense, either..
My point is... some cars are sold for a loss.. whether the dealer actually loses money on the car, once all the variables are taken into account is debatable.. As long as I get a low price, their profit margin really isn't that important to me...
regards,
kyfdx
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I am looking to buy 5-door Mazda3 when the 2007 models come out. AT with either Touring or Grand Touring trim.
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slaterac.
I'm familiar with the dealership.. Priced a P5 there a few years ago.. You are correct, they'll do anything they can to make it up somewhere else... and, like all advertising, it is designed to get customers in the door..
But, if you know what you are doing, they will let it go for the advertised price..
Also, I have to disagree with our other member that the Mazda3 is still in high demand/short supply... I see dozens in stock at all of my local dealerships... This is the third model year for the car, and the fourth year will be here soon... The deals should be a lot closer to invoice than MSRP, no matter where you buy..
Don't get me wrong, it is still a great little car.. (sounds familiar..hmmm...lol), but it isn't the latest and greatest thing out there any more...
regards,
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link title has ads from dealers all over the country advertising different models. Some are of course teasers but some are legit. Its pretty interesting.
The 05 3s sedan w airbag option is a $13500 vehicle after a year or so so judge your purchase from that point. Shoot for $600 -$ 1000 below invoice for the 06 sedan and 800-1500 for the hatch. Shoot for $1000+ more for any 05s (usually hatches)left.
As usual, doing your research the first 3 weeks of the month and your inquiries the last 7-10 days or so is usually the most productive. Have to know what you want, get 10-15 bids,(maybe less for mazda ) let the sales or fleet manager (who you should talk to ) know you're getting competitive bids. Do this by fax or phone of course and don't screw around with the salesman-salesmanager-internet manager runaround etc if possible.
I've purchased many cars over the years, and the link titlepackage I've seen is the closest to perfect way to buy a new car I've seen. M ay be useful and economical for some of you.
Rotsa ruck
--jjf
I now do understand why "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"....
Just because there are cars sitting on dealers lots does not mean anything.
1- Most of the best selling trim levels are nowhere to be found (i touring auto, S touring auto...)
2-Most dealers have less than a 20 day supply of 3's with most of their incoming units sold and 2007's still 2 months away.
To me that is a car that should be selling for full price anyday, problem is Mazda dealers , unlike honda, don't know yet how to handle sales of such a highly demanded model.
I happen to agree. Here's the problem...Myself being a Mazda dealer, we try to hold gross on every car. I work to make a living, not make friends. Most Mazda buyers want to shop around, and once that person goes to another dealer, that other dealer immediately drops their pants to invoice or a few hundred above. In some instances, below invoice.
Now, I understand that you need to do what you need to do to make a deal, I do it all the time. But, I don't drop my pants, and kill any chance I had to make money.
Most dealers here in the North East give all the money away, rather quickly. Unless it's a MX-5. That has been my experience. I just had a customer that was quoted $300 below invoice on the first shot from another Mazda dealer and wanted me to beat it. It seems like MSRP is a fictitious number that needs not to be mentioned anymore.
With the supply and demand issue with these Mazda3's, to be selling well below invoice is mind boggling.
But, whats even more mind boggling is if you go to a Mazda dealer and try to get the MX-5 $300 below invoice, or even AT invoice, they dealer will laugh, and tell you to have a nice day.
slaterac.
Mazda 3 had its best selling month last month (June 06). I cannot imagine why dealers would offer 1K+ under invoice when there is no manufacturer incentive on this car. While the 3 is not exactly the latest compact car on the market, it is clearly at the top (look at all the awards it has won over the last few years). Its not like we are talking about a Dodge Neon or Chevy Cavalier here..
Just because a model (say the Mazda3) is in demand it does not always mean they will sell at a higher price. Mazda must compete with everyone else - if the Ford dealer (or whoever) 1/4 mile away is selling below invoice the Mazda dealership (if they have a clue) will know it - if a customer has 1/2 of a brain they will not come into the Mazda dealer and say - I must have the Mazda3 - no other car will do - even though I can buy a Corolla below invoice - get a big rebate on a Focus - buy a Civic for $150 over invoice - or get a Cobalt with 0% interest for 60 months - I don't care - BTW how much for that red Mazda3 - I must have red or my wife will get mad - and this is the only red one in the state - will you give me a good deal?
Many dealerships would rather have a deal that makes them $250 NOW - then hold out in hopes the customer will come back in a few days and pay a few hundred more. Its all about NOW. If you have ever been in a competitive business you would understand this.
I would have to agree with you there. I basically said that in an earlier post.
I will basically do anything to make a deal, obviously. I'm going to try and make money, first, if that does not work, then I do what I have to do within reason.
My philosophy is, if a dealer is going to make no money on a sale, it might as well be me! I would rather take the short deal, then have another dealer take that deal. Usually that sale will lead to service money, and possible referrals. It's good in the long run.
Most dealers here in the North East give all the money away, rather quickly. Unless it's a MX-5. That has been my experience. I just had a customer that was quoted $300 below invoice on the first shot from another Mazda dealer and wanted me to beat it. It seems like MSRP is a fictitious number that needs not to be mentioned anymore"
I suggest folks find the dealer(s) who will as this writer put it "drop his pants". He also notes that they do exist. Assure our hero who will deal that you will get your car serviced there. (if this is true ) and you will give him the highest of customer satisfaction ratings on any surveys.
Fax the sales/fleet (forget the silly college student internet manager) managers with your requirements (preferably 10+) With mazda some of you may have to cast your net wide(100+ miles toyota nissan and especially chevy have more dealerships) , flexiblility on colors and styles and a few extra add-ons will greatly enhance ones results. Out of our group of 10-20 We will get 5-12 responses and 1-3 or more of these may be our "heroes" The eager beavers will call back.
This is very easy with fax software and especially if you have a desk job.
Do this toward the last 8-10 days of the month. Make them aware they are in a competitive bidding situation. Too many managers/owners have seen a good month go south or a mediocre one become good at this point. Forget walking into your local dealership at 8 pm the last day of the month. The writing is probably on the wall at this point and the probability this dealership is one of our "heroes" is about 2-3/15 or about 20%, probably worse on the last day.
If you just gotta have the one purple mx3 touring etc etc within 500 miles to get you're probably going to have to pay up. (However a hero may still come thru)
Inform them you plan to purchase before the end of the month. if their (telephone response) involves a lot of runaround "be easier if you came in " etc... tell them you've got 5 more responses to receive and you need their best "I'm a sales manager who wants to book a low profit deal at the end of the month" shot. Our heroes will be the most co-operative and inquisitive with follow up calls. Those less eager will yank us around more and naturally de-select themselves
Fightingchance.com seems to have one of the more useful services available. No absolute value under invoice can be assured but by buying like any other commodity (and thats what most new cars are) one can get one of the better (best?) deals available on any car in a given month.
Also be aware that the the websites or dealer you are automatically directed to or select to give quotes are sometimes limited. A few dealers pay for exclusive rights on some websites in some areas. Use the dealer locator on the manufacturers websites and get a useful # of firms (within 50-200 mi) there.
--jjf
most dealers will toss form letter blast faxes into the trash...
I was lucky in that the dealership I bought from had over 50 3's in stock (they own three dealerships in the area) so they had the exact options I wanted. No way was I not going to get the SAB package though.. Well worth the extra money..
a) the sales/fleet managers name (to address your letters to)
b) His/her personal fax line if any (about 1/2 of dealerships have this.
--jjf
For the vehicle, I paid $18,700 (including destination). For Out the door, it came to $19,650. It was in Fairfax, Virginia, where the sales tax on cars is 3.20 percent.
It was very difficult to find a dealer that had the car with the options I wanted. I'd appreciate anyone's opinion on whether the price I paid was too high, too low, etc.
Thanks!
That said (assuming this is the sedan, not the hatchback), the invoice on the car with the features that you highlighted is 18,228 (including destination). Northern VA dealers tack on a $200-300 processing fee as well, was this included in 18,700 price? If not, then you may have paid a little more than you should of (I got mine for $100 under invoice). In the future, also look at some of the Maryland dealers. www.fitzmall.com pretty much sells at invoice and has a great selection. I used the quotes from Fitzmall and Browns Alexandria Mazda actually beat them by $190.
In the end, you did not get ripped off, but you probably could have saved $400-500 if you shopped some more. Also, buying towards the end of the month helped me. In addition, I always email as many dealers in the area to get as many quotes as possible before I narrow it down to 2-3 dealers that I will work with.
Just sent out faxed requests for bids to dealers a couple hundred miles in every direction from our home in North Carolina. Got what I think is a good bid from a Maryland dealer (details below, if anyone wants to analyze). But it includes a $240 "Washington D.C. Assessment fee" in addition to the $99 processing fee (which I know MD dealers charge). I can find no online reference to any such legitimate fee. In addition, I can't imagine why I'd have to pay anything to the District of Columbia when I'm buying a car in Maryland and when I live in North Carolina. I'd love to get everyone's feedback on whether this is legit.
Here's the deal:
5-door, Mazda3 S-GT base price: $18,135
Sunroof/Bose/6CD bundle: $1,148
Wheel locks: $32
Destination: $560
Tag and title: $83 (including $15 MD temp. license so I can drive it back to N.C.)
Processing: $99
Washington D.C. Assessment: $240
N.C. Highway use tax (this is def. legit; it's instead of sales tax): $632.07
Total out-the-door: $21,784.07
OTD minus tax, tag, title= $21,069
Thanks in advance for your insights.
--Vance
I am almost positive Fitzmall can beat that price (they are selling some of their Grand Touring Sport 3's under invoice on the web, and have no other crazy fees):
http://www.fitzmall.com/carfind/search.asp?lstMake=MAZDA
Sort by Internet price since that is what you should be paying. Also, I would call Browns Mazda:
www.brownscar.com
They beat fitzmall's price when I was shopping last month and I purchased the car under invoice (plus it is closer for you to drive).
Good luck!
Any help would be appreciated.