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    grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    I think that there were a few coachbuilders doing conversions. I agree that they are not graceful with the top up, but top down, absolutely exquisite. A rather notorious British politicians, Alan Clark owned one.

    Cheers

    Graham
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,156
    Yes - The DS Chapron Coupe 'Le Dandy' - they made a few of these, but maybe not more than ten or so - it looked good but not as spectacular as the decapotable - which is great when the roof is off....

    I had (probably still have, in the attic) a model of one of these coupes by Corgi - it was a metallic plum colour I think - but I had never seen one until Essen this year...
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,174
    Funny, that's exactly how I knew the name, because of the Corgi toy.
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,156
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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,174
    Handsome Fiat 2300 (Italian fintail) in front, I'll let someone else pick off the car at right (hint, it's a German).
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,156
    Yes Fintail its a Fiat but according to the caption it is an 1800 rather than the 2300 (there as also a 1900 and in some parts of Europe they had a 1500 engine too).

    I'll leave the other car for now - someone will get it.
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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Extra points if you know the lady owner:

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,558
    looks like an AC Ace from ~1960.

    no clue who she is.

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    bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,473
    looks like an AC Ace from ~1960

    From the front fender flares I am going to guess that it's a Cobra. i don't have any clue who she is either.

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,266
    Twiggy?

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    tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,243
    Believe the she is a he, Tara Browne.
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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    good catch tmart! My bad, calling him a her. Funny thing how I got his gender wrong---Tara Browne was a London socialite and his mom was a Guinness heiress---so pretty well off to say the least. But I remembered that he was an inspiration for a famous Beatles song, and I thought it was Lucy in the Sky, etc, but alas, it was not--it was "A Day in the Life".

    Yep, it's a Cobra!

    He hit a truck while driving his Lotus Elan and that was it for him, in 1966.
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    Yep, it's a Cobra!

    IIRC Cobras sold in the UK all wore that AC badge, instead of the "snake" badge seen on this sideof the pond. I have a US sales brochure which labels them as Shelby AC Cobrapowered by Ford..

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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Well that's quite possible...this could be what was called in the UK the "AC 289" because it was built there.

    Cobra history is quite convoluted and peppered with law suits and all kinds of Shelby shenanigans.
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,156
    Nobody else for the (German) finned car behind the Fiat?
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    grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    I wonder if it is a Borgward?

    Cheers

    Graham
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    grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    This has been bugging me as I realised after suggesting Borgward that it was not fancy enough. Have ultimately placed it as a DKW Junior. Never seen one in the flesh but do know they came from Dusseldorf with some assembled in Holland. Also there is something about assembly in Ireland.

    bizarrely, I recalled my schoolboy German incredulity to discover that the initials were a typical shortening for Dampfkraftwagen (literally Steam Driven Vehicle). I think that idea died rapidly. DKW were one of the constituent companies of Auto Union.

    Was the Junior the last German 2 stroke?

    Cheers

    Graham
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,156
    Yes - DKW Junior. I saw a couple of these at the Essen car show, and also saw one in Birmingham NEC last winter.

    I think this may have been the last West German 2-stroke but the DDR had a few more years of these - Wartburg will still making 2-strokes until the late 70s or early 80s although they stopped them selling in the West for environmental reasons earlier than that - we stopped getting Wartburgs in UK from 1973, I recall.
    Trabant went on well into the 80s before changing to the 4-stroke.
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    61 Pontiac, one of my favorite years for them. Not sure of the import, maybe something British?
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    lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Fiat 1500
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    You're both right. The shape of the Pontiac appears to be distorted by the camera angle or something.

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,113
    1967 Ford Galaxie 500 two-door hardtop...nearly identical to the one my friend is currently doing some engine work to in order to resell...his is a 390 though, unlike this car, and has full wheelcovers.

    I grew up on GM, but looking inside his Galaxie and a very nice '67 Fairlane 500 at a recent cruise really drove home to me that, IMHO, the General had it all over Ford in interiors...just the seat trim of comparable models, things like armrests, window cranks, handles, etc.
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    uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,113
    That '61 Pontiac is a Bonneville Vista, to be exact.
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    Yup, it's a '67 Ford Galaxie 500 much like the one owned by F1 Champion Jim Clark. Clark, whose Lotus F1 car used Ford Cosworth power, had the "7Litre" version of the 1967 Galaxie 500XL.

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    bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,473
    edited June 2013
    Unlike that one, however, this one has a small engine; a 289 cid V-8 or even possibly a 240 cid six.

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    this one has a small engine; a 289 cid V-8 or even possibly a 240 cid six.

    Yup, the lack of an engine badge on the flank indicates it's not packing much heat under that big hood. IIRC anything from the 390 up got a badge.

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,558
    '67 Firebird.

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    steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    My sister had a first year model Firebird (not a convertible). I don't remember the wheel wells being all swoopy like that. Pretty sure her's was the base with the six cylinder in it. Bright yellow.

    She was out of the house and off to college by then and I had just gotten my learner's permit so I only got to drive it once. Took a couple of visiting cousins to the drive-in.
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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,711
    No side marker lights, so it's '67 Firebird, right?
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    steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited June 2013
    Beats me - mostly what I remember about that car was her parking it in the front yard so everyone driving by would be sure to see it. And then there was the time she was running me somewhere on the highway and didn't notice that the Greyhound bus in front of us was slowing to pull off at a stop, and wasn't actively braking to trigger the brake lights. I thought we were going to drive right under it. :shades:
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    wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    Right, '68 was the first year with side marker lights. Also, '67 had vent windows which were gone the next year.
    For fun, when (if) you watch Diners, Drive-ins, & Dives check out which red convertible Camaro Guy Fieri is driving - he seems to switch between the original '67 (with vent windows) to a '68 or '69 (without vent windows).
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    Yup that is a first year 1967 Pontiac Firebird Sprint. Sprint versions of the Firebird and Tempest used a SOHC six, an option that didn't prove popular in that era of cheap gas.

    "OHC 6 Sprint" lettering (barely visible) on the lower flank indicates this option.

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,156
    BMW 2000CS- circa 1966/69...
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    edited July 2013
    Yes indeed, the 2 liter, 4 cyl. precursor to the wonderful 6 cylinder E9 Bimmers
    (2800CS, 3.0CS/CSL).

    I've always thought the resemblance to the '65 Corvair coupe was remarkable considering that the 2000C/CS reached showrooms in 1965, the same year as the 'Vair. Who was stealing from whom?

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    edited July 2013
    Looks like a pair of '58 Cadillacs! A white Eldorado convertible and a black 'regular' Fleetwood or 62 or deVille. Whatever show or movie it is, it must be set in Miami as indicated by the license plate.
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    edited July 2013
    Yup, it's a pair of '58 Caddies, the white convertible being a rare Eldorado Biarritz. The black is a limousine (Series 75?).

    The still is from Magic City which is set in Miami Beach in 1959 so it is chock full of 50s vintage iron especially of the upscale sort. It's also a pretty well-made acted and written series. (Starz, Fri 9P edt)

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,156
    This is the new Maserati Ghibli.
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,156
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,266
    Who was stealing from whom?

    Rear engine vs. front engine... I'd say it was probably coincidence...

    '67 2000CS was my first BMW (bought in '85...)

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    Rear engine vs. front engine... I'd say it was probably coincidence...

    Oh there were plenty of differences but they also had similar styling and both featured IRS, a real rarity in the mid 1960s. I have a hard time believing there wasn't some "industrial espionage" going on.

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    Chevy styling in the Netherlands, it can only be an Opel (Rekord?).

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    lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    1942 or 1946-48 Buick Roadmaster convertible.
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