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Audi A3 Prices Paid and Buying Experiences
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I think that is a hard way to go... Once you top $25K for a luxury import, you'll have more leasers than buyers... Seems like they are giving away a big piece of the market.. Maybe not so much on the $25K strippers.... but, a lot of them will be right around $30K..... $575/mo. finance payments will price a lot of people out of the market...
Hopefully for the buyers, actual resale will be better than those residuals...
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Without a significant raise I'm out. Too bad about the terrible leases. Test drove a 2.0 DSG and fell in love. Guess I'll have to drive the Camry a bit longer.
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I'll be leasing it but haven't squared away the terms just yet. Audi Finance is out of the question, their money rates are 6.9% and higher. Most dealers in my area are going with Chase who is working in the 3.9% - 4.9% range. Residuals at 15k miles are 51% for 36 months and 46% for 42, a little better for 12k miles. Chase has some nice features like pre-buying extra miles upfront at a discount (I run up miles and this helps avoid big over-charge at the end), and $1,000 damage allowance so you don't have to deal with nickel-and-dime stuff at lease end. The tradeoff is slightly higher fee structure.
-DSG transmission
-Lava Gray Pearl with black leather interior
-Sport Package
-Convenience Package
-Open Sky Option
-Sound Option
-Bluetooth Option
$31,329
I'll be adding the Phatbox aftermarket, as well as the splashguards and cargo mat.
MSPR - $28,635
Got car for $27,725.
Other dealer was willing to go 200 less on car but had ~400 more in fees.
Dodge numbers are somewhere in the 30%-40% range (except for the Viper, which is like 59%).
DL
When the lease price for a $37K BMW and a $30K A3 are the same.... you have to figure that Audi doesn't want to lease the A3.. It just isn't competitive... Especially for an '06 model... those are low residuals...
regards,
kyfdx
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I really preferred manual before I test drove the DSG, and it is great and so much fun. I was the manual guy, but after test driving that DSG, it is unbelievable!
A great car for under $ 30 K!! Very fun to drive!!!!!
Lava gray, Premium, Open Sky, Sound, Xenon, DSG
Total MSRP: 31,915
PAID: $31,415, plus iPod adapter INSTALLED (a $500 value, according to my dealer)
So, saved about $1000 total? Not bad for San Francisco, where the dealers aren't into giving big discounts
Gas mileage and the fact it's a brand new 06 are big differences. The A3 is a blast to drive, but it's front vs AWD. Not a bad decision either way, IMO. Also, your driving habits come into play. If you buy an 04 with 40k miles on it and drive a lot, you could be really racking up the miles on the S4 quickly.
Getting a $5,000 discount plus 0% financing is a purely domestic necessity. In short, the domestic automakers are saying, "our cars stink so much we have to pay *you* to buy them".
tgrundke just bought your car...
Hey, tgrundke.. can you give us the actual numbers? MSRP and price paid before TTL?
regards,
kyfdx
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Got this car from Power Audi in Newport Beach, California.
MSRP $31765
Price paid $30415
Most of what they have on the lot have the sport package for some reason. I don't think the A3 is selling as well as the dealer claimed (because of the $1350 discount I am getting). But it's good to be finding undervalued stocks, right?
2.0T 6MT - Premium
NAV+
Cold weather
Open Sky
Sirius
$30,600 (+Tax/License)
My favorite color happens to be Murano Geen (I know, I am strange that way). Only one dealer I found so far had one, and they admitted that it was an experiment. (It was stripped! No options, base price. I defintely want opensky, so I passed.) They said every green Audi they have ever had has never sold well. They did say that the hot red A3s were far more popular than other red Audis. It has sport appeal (their explanation).
Now a question for you all: I am offered $750 over *invoice* for an Audi A3, metallic silver, light grey interior, premium, nav, cold, opensky, no bluetooth. The invoice they are quoting is correct. The downer is that it has over 500 miles of test drives on it, and I have no idea who torqued it how far in those drives. What do you think of this offer? If anyone abused it, will I find out before the warranty expires?
DSG
Red
Premium
OpenSky
ColdWeather
Price negotiated 29700
MSRP 30765
Traded in 2003 Protege5 - got 9800 cash
Also used $200 rebate from my AUDI visa card ( that was sweet)
I think they robbed me on the lease though 36 month - 469/month with 3000 down
Other notes:
The allowed me to take car for test drive with all my family ( my wife, me, 2 kids) - no salesperson.
I wish they were selling Sunpackage - (test car had it but it's no longer available includes rear window sunshades) - it's great if you have small kids. Anybody know where can I buy it separately. According to dealer it was only available on early demo models in premium package without fog lights. They no longer offer it here.
It's a buty and it rocks.
LMK, my strategy was simple - come in on a worst day and rather early - i.e. no customers; also in the end of the month. We were in dealership twice - both times in pouring rain. Note though first time we tried the car in May and they played a tag game for a while. Said first time NO, but came in later - 5 months later to be exact.
Honestly - I don't think they are selling the car that well. When we test drove again in mid October - we were still test driving the one with no fog lights, but with sun -package. As I learned these were original "test drive" cars.
Persistance - that's my take on it.
p.s We had 2 inches of wet snow on Saturday - the car was "glued" to the road. I felt much better then in my P5 with the same road conditions.
Good luck.
here are the specs that i know...
5 months old.
DSG
open sky sunroof.
tinted windows.
custom installed pioneer mp3/cd player powered by subwoofer.
14K miles (that's a lot of miles)
for 22K.
any thoughts?
A3: Oct 631 sold, Sep 621, Aug 738, Jul 763, Jun 564
A4: 4069 4782 3883 3933 3881
Jetta average 9500/month, Passat 4500/mo, 3 series 9300/mo
Anyone know what the November residual & money factor is for the A3 Sport? How can Audi justify not discounting a car that is averaging less than 700 units sold per month (US sales)?
A3: Oct 631 sold, Sep 621, Aug 738, Jul 763, Jun 564
A4: 4069 4782 3883 3933 3881
Jetta average 9500/month, Passat 4500/mo, 3 series 9300/mo
Thanks for looking up these numbers.
Sounds to me like Audi's doing all it can to squeeze out all of the money it can from those interested in the A3. [see for instance the Quattro A3 conundrum]
It's not like these cars are sitting around in huge inventories. That's the thing that leads to big discounts. Low sales numbers alone will not lead to discounts, particularly when a number of people are already plopping their money down and waiting a couple months for their A3 to arrive off the boat. But keeping shipments and sales this low means we should expect to keep prices fairly high (where 1K off MSRP is considered very good) for a while. Arrgghh.
On a different note, anyone know when 2007 A3's will be coming out? May / September of 06? Thanks.
Here's a sample, after just few calls and 10 emails to dealers in So Cal, without trying Audi of Pasadena CA offered $300 over invoice over email. I think I can do better, I am almost sure in a few month they will do invoice. A3 is a great car, but in this economy very very selected few car can hold near sticker value, market sets the pricing (that's you), you get to decide what it is worth.
In my opinion only cars you won't have much negotiation leverage on is the hybrids, any other cars can be bought as near invoice or lower if you willing to shop around, bargin hard and not willing to cave in so easily. As long as your got the money, somebody will be willing to work with you. I only shop with dealers who is nice to me and willing to work with my budget. The one who is arogant and cocky, well they can kiss my commission good bye and continue to stand on their expensive showroom floor and stare at the sticker pricing they want to sell at. So keep in mind you have the upper hand, so use it wisely, don't never ever give in so easily, be picky, make them EARN your money.
Though, there are two items that seem suspicious. $200 for regional advertising and $195 for preparation and inspection.
Are these reasonable fees or is there where the dealer is making their money?
When asked why they were willing to sell at invoice, the dealer explained that the car had been around since July and they were looking to move it.
Any advice?
The fact is they can call it whatever they want about the fees, doc fees, bs fee... Bottomline is every dollar you pay above dealer cost is their profit. They should upfront with you about. They don't think you are very smart.
If you still chose to do business with them then I think you should let them know price offered with fees would make the car above invoice, then offer them what you want to pay, do not justify why you offered what you offered, if you do you fall to their trap. They will make you feel sorry for how little they are making.
Keep the offer very simple, forget the sticker. IT's a one two process. One, do your homework find out what it cost. Two, offer what you willing to pay. Done!
Audi is a hot car but it's no Lexus or Bimmer, they simple do not command a market premium like Lexus or Bimmer. This is not to say Audi is not a hot car.
As for any serious discounts or leases you just won't see it happen. Audi only expects or want to sell 10,000 of these cars here the first year. They are on target for what they expect to do. That is why there is not a lot of inventory for this car. This year is a kind of test for our market with this car. We may see stuff come as audi gains more confidence in our reaction to this car. Good luck shopping. Just remember to if you owned the business would you want to sell you products at cost or below cost. Not going to make much of a profit or stay in business long.
To the dealer: yes you are fully entitled to make profit, that's why you are in business for. However, your ability to make money is not consumer's concern. Customers are here to look for what they need, and get it from you at their budget or what they think the car is worth. This is called market sets the pricing of the car, regardless your cost. Everyday cars are sold at a loss, look at GM and Ford, they are broke! Why? They make poor cars. On the other hand Audi makes awesome cars however they are not as established as BMW or Lexus, these company don't discount as much and have higher resale because their cars are better.
Wow, there must be some huge discounts coming to boost sales volume, as Oct YTD sales total 4,053. Sales peaked in July at a whopping 763, with Aug 738, Sep 621, Oct 631. Car went on sale in March, with 47 units sold. As much as I like the A3 DSG (and I'm almost 40 -- way too old for a hatchback), if there aren't incentives by January, there won't be an A3 for sale in the US in 2007...just like the 318ti, the C230 coupe, and, as of yesterday, the Phaeton.
Hmmm, I'm almost 50 and haven't driven a hatchback since 1995. That said, even after picking up a new A3 (assuming that I do), I still won't consider myself to be driving a hatchback (a small Estate Wagon, yes, a hatchback, no).
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Shipo
DL
As long as the car is beautiful and drives nice, it will sell and will continue to be sold. While the sales figure is not hot, it doesn't really say a lot about the car just yet. The fact is it has gotten great reviews everywhere I have to yet to read a negative review, as Gas pricing stay high consumer will start to consider, or think, small, sporty, luxury, and pratical. I like the car a lot, with dealer selling closer to invoice it's a good deal but no bargin just yet as the options adds up quickly. Once incentives kick in that's when I will consider to make a move.
FWIW, it's my sister who's seriously looking to buy. She's shopping in the L.A. area, and has gotten quotes of $300 above, and $600 below invoice. Actually, the second dealer offered "$1000" below invoice, and then proceeded to stick on $400 of bogus "dealer prep" and "regional advertising" fees. Yes, they're bogus, thebody5. (It would be like going to Ralphs to buy a 25-cent apple, and then being charged an extra nickel for "unloading the apple from the truck" or "advertising in the Times." But I digress.) Has anyone else scored deals BELOW invoice?
They want me to pay 31190. Their "invoice" total is 29433 which includes a $395 "port fee" (not the $720 destination) Negotiations won't occur until the car reaches the lot. Of course this is done on purpose so when you see the car, you will be willing to pay. I want to offer 29900 :confuse:
How is Audi's service? VW must have the WORST service in the business; from VW of North America all the way down to the dealers they are terrible!
Dave in VA
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