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I think it has to be either wheel bearings, AWD, or transmission (rear end already rebuilt).
Anyone experience something similar?? The service guy has had it for a week and he has been randomly replacing parts in a shotgun effort to isolate it. Its driving us crazy!!
if that doesn't improve things, make sure you have a good bead of silicone dielectric grease applied around the inside of the boots on both ends to keep water and spray out.
if that doesn't help, yes, it's time to consider replacing the wires AND plugs. starting around 30,000 deterioration can start becoming noticeable, depending on the engine, type of driving, phase of the moon, number of squirrels running around under your hood and causing stress you don't see, and so forth. I did mine around 26,000 because I was starting to feel it on a hard turn in reverse, and I was going to be towing in a month.
but it's worth it (a full set of Motorcraft wires for my 5-L V8 explorer was $280 with a liberal discount because the dealer parts guy felt sorry about those kind of list prices) to run smooth. plugs, even double-platinums, are in the $6 range max with the discount. since plugs that can't sink the high-voltage slug of power will accelerate the deterioration of coils and wires, it makes no sense to replace wires alone.
don't forget the anti-seize compound and the dielectric grease for the wires' boots.
remember the sage advice of confucius, when asked about 100,000 miles between tuneups: "HA HA HA HA hahahaha hoo whee HAHA HO..."
You can get spark plug wires for a lot less then $280. I had mine replaced last year at 121k (first time) and the wires were only around $150 but the spark plugs did cost about $8 a piece. Plus I doubt the warranty will cover replaing spark plug wires (wear and tear item). I could be wrong.
you can probably even get sparkplug wires in the $40-50 range, but they probably won't seal the coils or plugs as well as the OEMs, and there are a few funny plug spots where there are heat shields for the wires and plug boots on OEM that won't be shielded on dock sweepings. those issues will mean shorter life for the replacements.
envoyenvy, have you checked for loose vacuum lines yet? reverse is the lowest gear on a car, and on something fairly new stalls in reverse can be expected to be something disconnected by accident that reduces the engine's breathing. dirty air filter (like evilly plugged) or air getting into the manifold vacuum directly are likely suspects. round 'em up and interrogate 'em.
intensely,
extremely,
poisonously careful under there... things spin and grab between the radiator and the front of the engine, and they main and kill. you don't want any part of that. no dangling stuff, take the tie off, have real good footing and don't overreach when you mist-spray water from a garden bottle on the wires. as always, lock down the e-brake when out of the car and the engine is running.
I drove a 1991 Explorer for 4 years, it was six years old when I bought it, it had old wires on it then, and had the SAME old wires on it when I sold it. It always ran perfect.
I currently drive a 1993 Explorer, it was six years old when I bought it, it had old wires on it then, and has the same old wires on it now, almost 4 years later. It always runs perfect.
I also have a 1997 Explorer with a 5.0L V8, I've been driving it for a year. It had old wires on it then, and has the same old wires on it now, a year later. It always runs perfect.
So, why don't my wires burn out? I'll let you in on a little secret. The car companies want to sell PARTS and SERVICE, that's about the only way the dealers can survive. All the car parts companies also want to sell parts too. Lot's of money in the Parts business. So FORD, in their almighty wisdom, concieve, conive, and scheme to come up with ways to SELL PARTS AND LABOR. One nice easy way is to sell parts that must be replaced due to their short "lifespan", like wires and belts and such. One of FORDS "BRILLIANT IDEAS" was to figure out a way to make the spark plug wires burn out sooner, requiring replacement more often. Back in the old days of "regular ignition", the wires were cheap, you could get a new set for 10 or 15 bucks in the 60's. Suddenly, in the 70's they brillantly invented and put in production the "SUPER" high voltage ignition, more powerful, better, faster!! Really nice - No More POINTS and CONDENSER!!! Well, that WAS good....but the trick was that this HIGH VOLTAGE would not stay in the old wires because it was so powerful! So they invented better wires (silicone), thicker wires (8mm), and more EXPENSIVE wires, that got even MORE EXPENSIVE as time went on. So the great GURU's said, here is our chance to make a ton of money. Technology is able to make the voltage SO HIGH that it can burn the wires. Remember your old 55 Chevy, or 60 Ford, or that 66 GOAT, or even that old 52 Desoto?! They always set the spark plug gap to around .035". When the New ELECTRONIC High Voltage Ignition came out, they said, "Oh, this new powerful spark can jump a BIGGER GAP, so lets make the gap LARGER, because a bigger spark MUST mean better ignition"! AND SO they DID! The Spark PLug Gaps got bigger and bigger. Then they noticed that when they made the gap bigger, the voltage in the wires went HIGHER and HIGHER!!! This was because it takes more voltage to jump across a bigger gap, especially under compression. Then to their GLEE that saw that as the voltage in the wires increased, the wire insulation would be stressed, eventually deteriorate and burn!!! They REJOICED in their great discovery, and said "GOSH, WHAT AN EASY WAY TO MAKE MONEY!!! ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS SPECIFY LARGE GAPS ON OUR SPARK PLUGS AND THE WIRES WILL BURN OUT SOONER!!!! WE WILL BE SELLING LOTS OF WIRES ALL THE TIME!!!! BUY LOTS OF STOCK IN THE WIRE COMPANIES!!! BETTER YET, LETS BE A WIRE COMPANY TOO, TO RAKE IN EVEN MORE PROFITS!!!"
So it is, now, when you look in the FORD manual at the Spark Plug Gap specification, it says .054"!!!
SO what do I Set MY SPARK PLUG GAPS TO? .040", and they always run perfect, AND the wires DON'T BURN OUT!!!! Gas milage still the same. No negative effects, only positive effects.
I just don't understand why people don't catch onto this simple scam by the car companies, especially after all the endless talk of the hassle and expense of the new spark plug wires.
Be smart. Set your spark plug gaps down and save your wires, and your wallet!
Please save this message to your hard drive (copy and paste), and spread the word!
You'all have a nice day now!
On the spark plug gap...Wont that effect the combustion? I like the idea of longer lasting plug wires, but I don't like the idea of Check Engine Light or decreased gas mileage. Now I am not saying you have a bad idea, I just don't know enough about spark plug gap to justify doing that. Maybe you can explain it a little more? I don't know if my wires are fried or just rubbing against something or what. I haven't had a chance to look at it. My wife has been driving it lately because of the snow up here. Tomorrow she is leaving the Explorer home so I can fix it when I get home. Thanks again for the tips. You have been a huge help. I'll report back what happens if you are interested.
As far as damage to the insulation is concerned, I am not challenging your claims but it would seem to me that a larger gap would cause current to flow for a shorter period of time offsetting the (heating) effects of higher voltage.
I am, however, skeptical of the "planned obsolescence" theory! :-)
tidester, host
if it does anything to change the RF interference issue, it should reduce it, but the note would be higher and more pure (as any ham adjusting their spark gap transmitter would clearly state.) put another way, this would generate a hotter, shorter spark for each ignition pulse... but see below...
I'm not sure if it would stress the coil more or not at this point. you would not rise to a higher voltage before spark discharge, which should be good for interwinding insulation. but you would be able to conduct power to ground through the plug for more of a spark pulse, depending on whether the computer put a single pulse into the coil, or a burst of pulses. if it was a burst, you would sink more current across the same command impulse, so this would heat the coil up more, and that is bad for the insulation.
tidester, host
It sounds to me like the bearings, although you can narrow it down if the sound changes as you turn the car. I have 112k on my '96 EB, and just had to have the front bearings replaced for the first time. Sound gone.
Good luck.
dan
On setting the Spark plug gap smaller, will it affect combustion? In my experience, NO. I've been doing this for many years from the early eighties till now, and the many vehicles I've driven have all run very well. The smaller gap of .040" does NOT affect performance or gas milage or RF interference or anything else. Every thing is the SAME as far as I can tell, the only difference is that the spark plug wires last a very long time. The advantage is the same even if the coil fires two gaps instead of one, because decreasing the gap or gaps, reduces the voltage in the wire, because the spark does not have to jump as far. The way the coil works is that energy builds up, it rises, it is not instant. The voltage rises from ZERO to a voltage high enough for it to jump the gap. The instant it does that, the voltage goes back down, because the spark energy is dissipated to ground, the circuit was completed. You can see this on an oscilliscope very easily. Draw a large arc with the spark plug wire and the oscilliscope goes skyhigh. Shorten the arc and the voltage goes down. Far as I can tell, a 040" arc is plenty good enough to light the combustion fire just fine. At least it lites my Fire OK! I've been doing this for many years with Chevies and Fords, and it always worked good.
So, in a few years, post back here and let me know how it did for you.
As for the Wheel bearings, I don't remember replacing any, I just grease them with good quality high temp grease every time I take the rotors off. I've got some good Kendall Blue High Temp Grease out in the garage I've been using for years. Now I switched over to that Synthetic grease. They say it's the best now.
You all take care now, and please remember to say a prayer for our Astronauts.
I gotta get me some shut eye....
The web address is:
http://www.alldatadiy.com
The suscriptions are running $24.95 a year, and $14.95 when you renew for a year.
I think it is a good deal, and I find it very helpful.
if it was swinging, picking up dirt, etc. that could make a difference indeed.
attention to stuff that is going nowhere or hanging free next to clips is always a good thing in looking to fix intermittent issues.
Steve, Host
They say the transmission slowly loses pressure and therefore doesn't 'engage' in gear. Anyone have this experience? This last repair is out of warranty and they are charging big bucks. Any advice??
A/T - Slipping Shifts/Delayed Engagements/DTC's Set
Article No.
02-13-8
07/08/02
TRANSMISSION - 4R44E - 4R55E - 5R44E - 5R55E -
LOW LINE PRESSURE READING AT WIDE OPEN
THROTTLE (WOT) - SLIPPING SHIFTS AND/OR
DELAYED ENGAGEMENTS - POSSIBLE DIAGNOSTIC
TROUBLE CODES P0732, P0733, P1762 SET -
VEHICLES BUILT BEFORE 12/1/2001
FORD:
1995-2001 EXPLORER
1995-2002 RANGER
1996-1997 AEROSTAR
1999-2002 EXPLORER SPORT
2001-2002 EXPLORER SPORT TRAC
MERCURY:
1997-2001 MOUNTAINEER
Article 02-8-2 is being republished in its entirety to update the DTC codes, build dates and to update the Service Procedure.
ISSUE
Some vehicles built prior to 12/1/2001 may exhibit the following shift and engagement conditions:
^ Low line pressure readings while in DRIVE at
WOT
^ No 2nd gear
^ No 3rd gear
^ No engine braking in Manual 1st
^ Slipping shifts and/or delayed engagements
^ DTCs P0732, P0733 or P1762 may be present
This may be caused by improper pressures controlled by the Transmission Main Control assembly.
ACTION
If the conditions described are verified, the Main Control may need to be updated to the latest level or completely replaced. Refer to the following Service Procedure for details.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
NOTE THIS ARTICLE DOES NOT APPLY TO ANY OTHER CONDITIONS OR COMPONENTS THAT MAY CAUSE SIMILAR SYMPTOMS AND IS ONLY WRITTEN TO COVER THESE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.
NOTE AN IN-LINE SERVICE FILTER IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE ADDED OR REPLACED FOR THIS TSB.
Verify that one or more of the following conditions exist:
^ Low line pressure while in Drive at WOT
^ Slipping/delayed shifts
^ Slipping/delayed engagements
^ No 2nd and/or No 3rd gear
^ No engine braking in Manual 1st
^ OD Band failed OFF
^ DTC P0732, P0733 or P1762 set
1. Verify that one of the conditions listed above exist with the vehicle.
2. If the condition exists, drain the transmission fluid from the pan.
3. Remove the fluid pan and fluid pan gasket, discard the gasket. Refer to Workshop Manual, In-Vehicle Service, Fluid Pan And Gasket Procedure.
4. Inspect the fluid in pan for major contamination.
a. If major contamination IS present, refer to Procedure A, to replace the Main Control Assembly.
b. If major contamination is NOT present, refer to Procedure B, to Update the Main Control Assembly.
5. After completing procedure A or B, verify the condition has been corrected.
6. Clear all DTCs.
Procedure A:
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1. If major contamination is present, follow normal Workshop Manual procedures to repair internal transmission damage. If the transmission is repaired remember that the the Main Control (7A100), Fluid Pan Gasket (7A191) and Fluid Filter (7A098) must be replaced. Refer to the application chart for the correct Main Control assembly to use.
Procedure B:
CAUTION A NEW SEPARATOR PLATE 7A008 OR 7Z490 MUST BE USED WHEN INSTALLING THE SPECIAL SERVICE KIT 7M203 OR ADDITIONAL TRANSMISSION DAMAGE MAY OCCUR.
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1. To UPDATE the main control to the new level, follow the steps listed in the Service Kit 1L5Z-7M203-JA (ALL KIT CONTENTS MUST BE USED). A new separator plate (7A008 or 7Z490), upper/lower separator plate gaskets (7C155 and 7D100 used only with a 7A008 plate), fluid pan gasket (7A191), and a fluid filter (7A098) must be used. ALL NEW PARTS MUST BE USED. Refer to Parts Application Chart for parts selection.
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2. Install the Special Service Tools 307-333 and 307-334 (1 each) onto the main control (Figure 1).
3. Install a new service Separator Plate (refer to chart), make sure that the new plate has hole # 50 deleted, install the three (3) screw and tighten to 7 N.m (62 Lb-in).
4. Install a new separator plate to case gasket (7C155) if installing the 7A008 style separator plate. DO NOT INSTALL a 7C155 GASKET IF USING A 7Z490 Separator Plate.
5. Remove the special service tools.
6. Continue to follow the assembly steps as found in the assembly of sub-assembled, main control valve body.
7. Reinstall the main control by continuing to follow the Installation steps listed in the Workshop Manual, In-Vehicle Service, Fluid Pan And Gasket Procedure.
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LABOR OPERATION CLAIMING CHART
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Parts Block
OTHER APPLICABLE ARTICLES: 02-83
SUPERSEDES: 02-8-2
WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under The Provisions Of Bumper To Bumper Warranty Coverage
DEALER CODING
CONDITION
BASIC PART NO. CODE
7A100 42
OASIS CODES: 501000, 502000, 503000
In a nut shell, they are really bad in the V6 engine models. I know it's too late for you now, but the best advice I can give you is that if you buy another explorer, be sure you get one with the V8 Engine, because they come with a much better and stronger automatic transmission (4R70W), which is nearly the same as the AODE. If you have the V6 with Automatic, the BEST thing you can do to it now is take VERY GOOD care of it, service it every 30,000 miles with a complete fluid flush and change, new filter, new pan gasket. If it starts to act up, do this same service every YEAR. You should be able to get 150,000 miles out of the original transmission. I got 155,000 out of the original automatic tranny in my 1993 Explorer with the V6 4.0L OHV Pushrod engine. I Drove it very hard, but it was no accident, it was very well serviced, completely flushed at each service. I still drive it, and very hard at that. The Hard driving does not hurt it as much as the contamination that builds up inside the transmission. Once a Bearing or Bearing Race or Bushing or Thrust Washer starts to fail, it will continue to create metal particles that will contaminate and wear out everything else in the transmission and torque converter. That is why they are so expensive to repair, almost all the parts inside and the torque converter need to be replaced.
Best advice I can give:
1st Buy the right transmission, buy a V8 powered Explorer.
2nd Maintenance is Key, do complete & regular maintenance.
Good Luck
In the recent past, I had the tranny replaced (21000 miles), coolant system serviced and fuel/air filters changed (24000), oil change with Mobil 1 (26700), and tires rotated (28500 - odd interval, but had a tire leaking).
What will I be due for @ 30000? I was thinking the serpentine belt and power steering maintenance. Anything else?
Steve, Host
it would be a good idea to replace the brake and PS fluids to prevent suspended stuff from causing damage... water and micro-rust in the case of brake fluid, which absorbs water from the air... minor seal shedding, floating metal dust, etc. in the PS system. but unless you see a major color difference from new fluids in a drip test or by shining a light through 'em, it isn't mandated.
but so far, you're right on track with the exception of the premature tranny failure.
Was actually quite easy and took all of 15 minutes Resoldered/added solder to several points on the power supply and I now have the display working again. Just note that the person running the site asks for a $10 donation which gets you a detailed set of instructions on how to complete the repair.
Just something to consider, was a lot cheaper than having Ford repair or replace.
it's an old story of not getting the heat out. retained heat of operation is the number one cause of everything failing. I can't begin to tell you how many electronic or mechanical things I have fixed just by looking for the hot spot and correcting any and all apparent heat damage. in particular, in a previous career, we had over a hundred terminal servers that went wonkus periodically, and the vendor couldn't reliably fix 'em at $470 a chance. I finally cracked a few cases, noted that I could see on top of the 80186 chips a clear image of the mold marks on the BOTTOM of the chip, and ordered up a few. case closed, at $16 each. Sytek never had anybody over there who worked with tubes, I guess, nor took the time to figure out if the 80186s couldn't change modes, they couldn't process user data.
there is a well-known maker of DSL equipment whose fast trunk connection cards run so hot they melt the insulation off the coaxes that connect them. and they wondered why those cards failed a lot...
same issue as so many times, you can't get the heat out, it kills stuff.
Goodluck! JRC
Another strange thing that may or may not be related. When my key will not unlock the doors, I can pull on the passenger door handle and it unlocks automatically. When the key is working, this doesn't happen. This weird activity makes me think I may have a bad electronic lock module or something related.
The easiest way for me to deal with this problem is to never lock the vehicle. I would just hate for someone to take my $5 sunglasses though.
As far as the model, its a stripped down bare-bones XL model.
A month or so ago I started noticing a high pitched vibration coming from the transmission. This was especially bad when the engine was cold, and it was really only apparent during acceleration.
Second problem that JUST started, creaking front suspension (very bad when going over speed bumps are pulling into my driveway).
Dealer just fixed both items: (1) transmission problem was a defective valve body, replaced now no noise at all! (2) front sway bar kit replacement to fix creaking sound. I've read some posts about the sway bar thing, and hope this is not a problem I will have to deal with again??
I had a contour previously and this was a common problem, I had the rear sway bars replaced like 3 times under warranty, then they just started lubing them every couple of months.
Just wanted to share my experience in case someone else is having similar problems.
Anyone experience this?
now, if there is some damage to the BAR itself, like rusting down to a toothpick or something, that calls for action. otherwise, phooey, more rubber to wear as the miles go by. it doesn't freak me out.
I have a 98 V8 AWD. I get lots of vibration and shuttering on slow speed sharp turns. Do you think my AWD is going out?? It seems like it wants to lock up in permanent 4wd.
My 98 V8 AWD Mountaineer had all kinds of front end issues at ~75,000 miles. The dealer replaced virtually all moving parts under extended warranty including transfer case, half-shafts where the U-joints failed, & ball joints. I chalk it up to over-enthusiastic driving and living in the land of pot holes.
I found out that its a front diff. failure. They found water in it. We had a nice little flood a while back and it just caught up with me. Now that I think about it, I think this is just the cause of the noise and not the lockup problem...I guess I will find out when I get it back.