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div2: "Thanks, I needed that!" Seriously, you are so right, & I have always been afraid that I would want to shoot myself if I sold the M6. Usually just going out to the garage & looking at it cures me of any thoughts of selling. Mine's an '88 too; low miles......pretty much mint....what was I thinking???? Anyway, thanks again, I needed to hear that from someone who has been there....
Steve
One more nice thing about the Nokians (or BFG Trac-Edges) they have a nice lug in the tread at the outer edges, and if you start bogging down you can see-saw the steering back and forth as you hunt with the throttle, and the lugs tend to find traction and keep you moving.
I came *that* close to burying the Disco over the weekend in some 3-4' drifts but managed to just crawl out the other side with the wheels churning. If I'd been going 5mph slower I would have floated up on top and punched down in, and got stuck. So yes, you can drive too fast and float your tires in the snow, losing traction... slowing down on the road will keep you under better control. But, offroad/backroad sometimes speed is your friend (not too much speed) and it will carry you through with momentum, sort of aiming for the softest spots as you work your way through. It's a fine touch to get the hang of it.
Enjoy the snow! -Bob
I look at Car Point (man) ratings and I feel good about it - I read some of these threads and I get the opposite idea.
Owning one seems either a great experience or misery.
Please, someone who really knows - what's the story?
It's a family affair, lots of Rovers of all types, and you can see what these things will do. Really do ! Go to their web page and find out more (just search for Solihull Society).
As for the last two posts above, let me say the following: I would buy only a 2000 and up Disco II, NOT a '99. I had one and it was the biggest piece of monkey crap ever assembled - my 2000 DII however has been absolutely perfect for one year and 13,500 miles! For older Disco's, buy as late as you can find (97 - early 99); stay away from 95 and early 96's.
Again, if anyone has opinions on LR's please let me know. Is a 99 Range Rover w/ 20k miles worth looking at? Or is a Dicso w/ 10K a better choice.
Any info would be great.
Also, would you recommend that I bring the VIN to the local dealer or maybe have them plug in to the truck to run the codes?
ANy info would be helpful, my wife is in love with the machine.
I'm getting the lines from the local dealership (where I would take any vehicle I purchase for service...) about no loaners with a non-Land Rover center purchase, no participation in "Wheels" events, etc. I'm not sure what to do! Is it really worth it to pay MSRP if I live in a market that only has Land Rover Centers? They have to service or repair any LR product, whether it was purchased there or not. Are the "extras" I would get from buying from a Center worth it?
What are other people doing out there??? Are people negotiating on kits and other accessories in place of price? I could really use some advice! I've never paid MSRP for a vehicle! I'm a wreck over this! I'd really like to hear about the buying experiences of Disco owners. I'm sure there are a lot of people who would like to hear too!
You can send email to Lauratwin@Mediaone.net, if you'd like.
Thanks in advance!
LGray
Thanks!
LGray
thanks
dR0
I have a 2000 Discovery II and here on our wonderful New Hampshire frost heaved roads, over choppy roads (nearly all) I am getting a "clacking" sound, almost like wooden blocks or metallic balls, coming from somewhere behind and above the glove box in the dash. Its hard to pin point the exact location because of the tone, but it could be almost as high up as where to dash meets the door post.
Anyone had this problem and found a cure?
Thanks
BTW, I was able to negotiate some on the price but then, that was like 3 years ago.
Just for the sake of grins, when I did the front wheels I ordered Wagner pads and waited a week. When they got here I thought "gee that's a big box" and lo and behold, there were brake SHOES in there. No charge for the return shipping!
My advice: buy some simple tools and a manual and get to know your truck. Honestly, the brakes on a Disco are a dream to repad.
Regards, -Bob
LRNA, the dealer, and LR regional Rep. all basically said: "if you have problems, we're sorry, but that's what the warranty is for". As for inconvenience, the dealer always had a new DII loaner to give me, but it was still a pain to always have to go to the dealer, and wait for parts (a big problem with LR).
While I loved the 4R, it was just too perfect - it was boringly reliable, and I really missed my DII. So I sold the Toy, and bought a new 00 DII - now I'm happy, especially since it has been almost as good as the Toy.
rkoesler: you must be a true LR fan to give up a problem free 4Runner and go back to the Disco. I would definatley get a DII but can't because of the trunk length. It's only 28" from door to the back seats. Which is why I started looking at used RR but really don't know how far back I should go or want to go. Something seems strange about spending 35k on a 98 or 99 car.
Regards, -Bob
If you haven't read Edmunds.com's confessions of a car salesman, I highly recommend you do so. I found it very entertaining, and yet enlightening as to what may go on in auto dealerships.
Drew
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It's common for bulbs to wear out at about the same time, and it may be yours are both simply burnt out. Try removing one of the plastic holders and pulling the bulb. Jiggle it and see if the filament is wobbling around at one end, or maybe the glass capsule will be darkened? It's the plug beneath the main harness holding the headlight bulbs themselves, you simply turn the plastic holder and it pops out of the reflector housing. The little parking light bulbs are cheap and I believe they're the same as your side markers and the ones in your rear bumper. Buy ten of them next time you're at the shop and leave 'em in a bag in the garage. All these bulbs are simple and quick to replace.
If this doesn't do it, perhaps your switch is bad. If you're proficient, turn on the parking lights, pull the socket, remove the bulb and check for voltage at the socket.
Best regards, -Bob
-Lesley
Thanks
I'm located in Northern VA, and I want to buy a 2001 SE5 in the next 3 months with heated wind screen package and ACE in black ($300+). I also want the front brush guard, rear lamp guards, extended roof rails and rubber floor mats. The sticker w/out the guards, etc. is $39,675. What is a good price including the guards/mats?
Also, I plan to buy with $10k down and I'd like to finance over 4 years. Where can I find the best terms for the loan? Should I bargains with LR or should I look for financing elsewhere?
I had an OUTSTANDING experinece purchasing the '01 Disco at the Grand Rapid dealership.
It was certainly worth making that trip in our opinion.
AS far as getting a good deal goes, definitetly look for someone, ANYONE who works for the FoMoCo, and get in on that "X-Plan!!".
And as far as the vehicle is concerned, we could not be any happier!!!
INSTANT LOVE AFFAIR!!!!
A colleague of mine who has just purchased the Mercedes SUV test drove our Disco today and was MUCHO impressed (and obviously envious!!!).
For all of you yet-to-be-converted, I have been there and NOW I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!!!!!!
We have so far put in 2000 delicious miles, and we have loved every moment of it!
Every time I pass by a Montero or a MDX, it becomes more and more obvious that we have made the right choice (WHAT WAS I THINKING?????).
Now for you Rover Lovers who live in the Great Detroit area and beyond, anyone with a recomendation on good places to go rovering (other than the Sommerset mall parking lot)??
Happy Rovering (!!!!!!)
Congrats on your decision! Rovers are awesome vehicles!
I'm sitting in my new empty house (untouched by the earthquake, thank you) in Redmond, WA. My Rover left MI on a covered transport about 1.5 weeks ago and is supposed to show up tomorrow. I had an oldsmobile mini-van over the weekend running errands and the 'detroit feel' makes me long ever-more for my quirky British Rover!
As far as trailing and offroading - your options are pretty limited in SE MI. There is a place called the mound near Flint, MI - it's an ORV park and there are lots of great challenges there for you to partake in, but you'll need an ORV sticker.
When I was a MI resident (up until last Friday! , I would often point the rover northwest, up near Traverse City. Wexford County has quite a few seasonal roads that only get normal use during the summer - some are two-tracks. Grab a county map, pack a tent, and head up that way for a weekend - it is absolutely incredible! Similar to the concept of green-laning (UK thing) - it's lots of driving through very peaceful woods, some challenging terrain (if you seek it out), an occasional river crossing, lots of sand, and even some hills around the power lines. Makes for a great weekend and cleanses the soul.
Thanks - wasko
OK, if you want an impartial comparison, stop reading now
About 1.5 weeks ago, relocation picked up my Rover and shipped it west to Washington State (where I currently am). In the interim, I had lots of errands to run around the MI home (trips to the dump, pickup lumber, etc.) so I rented a Jeep Grand Cherokee for the week.
Roadside manners of the JGC blew the Series I Disco away. But, it's hard to get over the ugly dash and bland interior. Also, if you plan on owning your vehicle for more than 3-5 years, I'd venture to guess that the interior of the Jeep wouldn't wear very well. My rental had 8k miles on it and the material on the seats was already wearing and shifting on the cushions. Also, that cheap dash looks like a thorough cleaning could break it!
As for roadside manners against a DII (which I drive when my DI is in service), I'd say it's an even match. The JGC may have a little more jump off the line, but I prefer the smooth transmission and the way the DII hunts through the gears.
Call me spoiled, but the durability of a Rover interior really puts other vehicles to shame.
Anyways, if I had a cool $35-45K in my pocket and could choose, it wouldn't even be a choice - it would be the Discovery. As I approach the end of this summer, I'll probably be trading in my '96 Disco for a new Series II.
Please, everyone post again and let me know how many miles, how many service trips, and your general satisfaction with the vehicle. All opinions welcome!
I've already started scoping out the trail/offroad scenario here in WA and even found myself hanging around the Rover dealer today after taking my wife back to the airport (she'll be coming permanently in another week). Boy, I'm in sad shape, being Roverless and all!
I may be going this coming weekend to look at a 1973 Series III in the area. For those that have been on the forum for awhile, you know that I've been itching to get an older rover or a Defender. Defenders are still too damn expensive, so I'm within 60-90 days of pulling the trigger (maybe sooner) on a Series III. Wish me luck!
Thanks - wasko
however, i don't find the dealers interested in selling much below msrp. what dealership do you recommend in the DC area.
Wishing I was back on the Island, but not wishing enough to leave God's Own Country. -Bob
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I am sorry to hear that you have left the lovely SE Michigan and headed West, and furthermore, had to be parted with your Rover(and stuck with a CHRYSLER -DOH!!!- to boot).
jtc8, with the X-plan, we were offered 5% above MSRP over the invoice (which came out to about $1700 above the invoice for SD7). Also you can get an outstanding lease deal - for example, we were offered 0 down and 530$/mo for 36 mo @ 12000mi/yr for SD7 with third row seating, SLS, and the "winter package". (No, I am NOT a LR dealer, althought come to think of it, that wouldn't be such a bad job).
And just to GLOAT ---yes, my '01 DISCO II is beautiful to look at and a pure joy to drive (of course, only lie in that statement is that technically, the car belongs to my wife).
Happy Rovering!!!
NEO
Delirious from happy Rovering,
Neo
Drew
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Where can I get more info on this?
I plan to buy a SE w/ ACE in mid May, and want to pay less than $600 a month with $10k down. Is this possible?
Basically the plan is an extension of "A-plan" which is the Ford employee discount. X-plan is modified discount for the "friends and families of FoMoCo employee".
In order to qualify, you just need to know a sap who works for the FoMoCo or Ford-related companies.
You simply give them your Soc secuirity # and then they obtain a PIN and then next thing you know you are sitting high above all others in your brand spanking new Land Rover !!!!
(Yes, once again, it goes to show that there is more to the FoMoCo then those exploding tires!!)
A friend of mine who qualified us says that they get 3 X-plans per year to give out.
If you ABSOLUTELY do not know anyone who works for the FoMoCo, or worse yet, do not have ANY friend at all, my advice would be to pick up a Dearborn(where it seems every other household gets their paychecks from Mr. Ford Sr.) phone book and start calling random numbers - and if you find a Ford employee, BEG and PLEA for a PIN (heck, after all we are trying to spend our hard-earned money on their product!!!) (well not really THEIR product, but...just mention that you are trying to help Ford from getting "Chryslered"-OUCH!).
For more FoMoCo X-plano info, go to www.aplanheadquarters.com
For you guys who are looking to purchase a Disco, I am so very excited for you (I was just there!!!). My advice is to go full-steam ahead and go HEAD OVER HEEL (yeah, BABY!)(of course, remember that I also just gave you advice to randomly call up strangers on the phone and give out your Soc sec numbers - but HEY, YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE!!!!!).
Rovero ergo sum (I ROVER, threrfore I AM.)
NEO
Good luck to all, and may your rover experiences be trouble free!
---LK
PS
I put on over 100mi having fun in the snow!! The joy of rovering.....
In my DI, I can fit tall stainless mugs in my dash mounted holders; they block the controls but it's workable. Get one with a tight-fitting lid that seals well, and you can do mild offroading without spilling your coffee too.
Regards, -Bob