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Ray T.
AHHH I CANT TAKE IT
-Eric
OK back to truck stuff, had rotors turned to solve pedal pulsation, I wanted new, dealer says they get turned first if problem returns they replace then, told him I'd see him in the spring for the new ones. The cold & snowy N.Y. winters will shurely do them in now that they took even more heat dissipating steel off of them.
Ray T.
I'm new to this forum (though not to Town Hall), so I checked back over the last 50-60 posts for some basic info, but unfortunately what I need to know isn't there. So, would someone be kind enough to bring me up to speed on some very basic stuff? I'm considering a 1500/2500 HD LT, so:
1: How is pricing in relation to invoice at the moment?
2: I picked up on the steering shaft problem in earlier posts. Any other current issues I should be aware of?
3: What sort of time are factory orders taking to come through?
TIA for your consideration.
To avoid the runout this might cause, I took the calipers and rotors off, and cleaned the snot out of the inside of the "hat" section and the face of the flange. Then used my dial indicator to check the rotors on the flange to make sure they were "0" runout. (actually, closest I could get on a couple of them was .001) Had to make up some spacers to go between the nut and rotors to hold them on the flange while doing this.
Now, NO tire shop is going to take the time to do this and dealer mechanics often forget that runout leads to thickness variation and pedal pulsation. If there is as little as .004 of runout it will allow the rotor to hit the pads and wear the rotor unevenly. The uneven wear is high and low spots about 180 degrees apart on the braking surfaces of the rotor. As little as .001 of "Rotor Thickness Variation" (RTV) will cause pedal pulsation.
What makes things worse is the rotors are "phase matched" during assembly at the factory, and if the tech machining the rotors doesn't mark the original alignment of the rotor position on the hub in relation to the wheel studs, AND doesn't use a dial indicator to verify that the rotors are running true to the perpendicular centerline of the axle, it may come back with the pulsation within 2 to 12 weeks.
Yes, rotor mass has some bearing on the heat absorbtion and disapation, but warping due to heat becomes runout, and that leads to RTV and pedal pulsation. No matter what the reason for developing the runout is, the majority of pedal pulsation is caused by rotor thickness variation.
BUT proper servicing will prevent an unnecessary repair!!
I used to spend a great deal of time discussing this situation with technicians and installers all over the country, until my headquarters office moved from here to Detroit...so now, after 20 years with Bendix, I guess I will have to find someone else to pay for my services.
Hope this might help explain the, why it is happening, and how to avoid having it repeated.
matthew
Well i took the tire off and sanded off the surface rust (very light coat) myself put the tire back on and a few months have passed with no more squeak.
That depends on your dealer. I deal through the fleet department, because I know what I want far better than the salesman does. Invoice or under right now.
2: I picked up on the steering shaft problem in earlier posts. Any other current issues I should be aware of?
Steering shaft shouldn't be an issue on a 2002.
3: What sort of time are factory orders taking to come through?
Again, it depends on your dealer, and if he has an allocation from GM for a pickup. No allocation = no order. Nobody claims to understand the system. Ask your dealer if he has an allocation. If he does, he should be able to get you an order number in a week or so. If not, try another dealer. My dad went to one dealer and ordered and waited 6 months, while I went to a different dealer and ordered and waited 6 weeks.
Mike L
Mac, Ditto what Mike says and additionally to #3 when I first ordered my truck the dealer told me he had an allotment, after 12 weeks of waiting all of a sudden they did not have the allotment, they lost the sale. I found a dealer who did have allotment and verified by watching the order get placed in GM ordering system computer with a confirmation of order shown on screen and printed out for hard copy. First thing you need to know after that is TPW (target production week) that you can get from GM Customer Assistance or your dealer after about 1-3 weeks after order, from there truck is built then shipped whenever. I placed my order 2nd week of December 1999, went thru 2 TPW's before truck was built week of 2/7/00 in Pontiac East Plant and I took delivery 2/26/00.
Ray T.
Mac
It would be good to mark the rotors and studs with a small center punch mark to a primary stud the next time you rotate the tires.
matthew
We pass that way every year, take thruway at New Paltz to Rte. 81 then off to the north country for our trip to Ontario but it's during the camping season not snow shoe season. LOL
Now Rhode Island, hmmmm spent many a summers at Matunik Beach and Point Judith while growing up.
So I take it throwing the kids in the bed of Rado so they can sprawl out when they get ansi is outta the question? LOL
Have a safe trip!
Ray T.
-Eric
thruway 19 miles east (rt 34)off exit.
Not any snow !! Dying to try out my new
2500 and snow plow ! If your in Syracuse
and need a break.. call we can have a cold
one at the Hannibal Hotel 315 564 7355
.........Geo
Hey Eric, Weather Channel says snow is up in higher elevations, but you're gonna have rain for a while.
matthew
Thanks
Ryanb0928@yahoo.com
Can anyone tell me how to find out what kind of inventory local dealers have WITHOUT having to go through a dealer?
Thanks
Al
Enter your zip code, and then "search" inventory on local dealer lots. You can view the VIN number, and copy of the window sticker, with all the options, and MSRP price.
Hittin' the highway along with all the other holiday travellers, delivering Christmas presents to all the good girls and boys in my Silverado HD.
Thanks
Ralph Coos
kip
-Eric
how much those run?
Q: How do I know when I got enough grease into a zerk?
Stupid I know....but just trying to make sure my observations match what is correct.
http://www.picturetrail.com/nh_mark
There are only 3 pics right now, I'll add more as I get them.
Also, what do you guys think about displaying pics of your truck with the license plate visible? I figure it doesn't matter since anybody can see it when I'm driving around anyway. At the last minute I decided to blot it out, I figured "better safe than sorry".
-Mark
Mark what kind did you get? I got an HP318
Thanks.
I originally got a 1 megapixel dcs3200 kodak but i took it back (rebate expired) and got the 2.3 megapixel HP for a little more money.
And how much was shipping? Thanks.
-Eric