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Watch out for the price of a replacement. The local dealer wanted in excess of 80 dollars. I found a dealer on the internet (somewhere in Texas)that mailed one to me for under 20 dollars. Still ridiculous price for a cable, but a lot more palatable than the local dealer.
Thanks
Paul
The problem, as I see it, is that the sheath on the cable can slip allowing water to enter, but not escape. When closed, the cable is folded in half and the water (even a single drop will do) sits at the half way point and begins to rust. Pull the sheath on your other side and make sure it is clean. Long term solve is to either a) prevent water from getting in or b) allowing water to escape. Some electrical tape at either end of the sheath should accomplish the former, but a small hole in the sheath right at the fold point might be a more reliable option.
HiC
Are you talking about the stainless steel cable that holsd the tailgate?
I have never experience this problem with stainless steel.(my pick up has this with out the plastic protectors and is 8 years old. Does your cables have a shiny look? Mine has SS and I inspected it today and find it really hard for water to go trough because of the end plastic boots at the ends.But even if the water goes in, SS will resist unless is salt water and is 20 years old. I have almost a year with mine and it looks brand new not even water stains on the cable. The only exeption to this is that if the cable is in a bind and it bends constantly with use and it will eventully brake this way for sure.
Let me know if I am the only one with SS cables.
Regards,
MG
What year is yours? Maybe the newer ones (and replacement cables) are SS?. Wonder if there is a TSB on this?
HiC
First of all, the Navigation system is DVD based. The country is divided into segments, which are easily accesible from the touch screen.
I previously had a 2000 Mercedes ML430 and traded it for this 2001 Land Cruiser back in April. This Navigation system is by far superior to the Mercedes. EVERY detail as far as the roads is on the map, even tiny county roads. Even the road that leads up to my grandmother's house (on private property) was on it! How.. I don't quite know. I have found it to be very accurate, and much more user friendly when compared to the Mercedes, mostly because it is a touch screen. I absolutely love it.
As far as my owning experience so far, I have nothing negative to report. I have about 8000 miles, and have had nothing go wrong. However, I will say that the customer service "experience" doesn't come close to owning a Mercedes. They're not rude, just not near as "lovey-dovey."
I read farther back, a couple of people mentioned their LC's leaning. I thought I was crazy for a while, but mine also leans just a tad. When I notice it, it bothers me.. but only because I worry that people will think I'm fat when when they come up behind me! (I'm kidding.. well almost.) Other than that, I try not to pay attention to it.
Finally, for those of you who are VERY particular about water spots and cleanliness.... I got every option available on my LC, including some sort of special sealant or protectant. I have found that because of this, water does not bead on the car, it simply "sheets" off. It has been effortless to keep clean. Of course, I have the Champagne Pearl, so dirt isn't very visible either.
Just my two cents.....
I think Detroit calls it the Suburban. Or the Tahoe, or is it the Navigator? I always forget .
"...the only odd thing was my TLC had only 1 tailgate strap from the factory, which the dealer cheerfully installed..."
Methinks that the factory is not to blame for the missing cable, but rather, the cheerful dealer who stole one from new inventory to replace a broken one for someone else.
HiC
Does anyone know the website for the Toyota TSBs and recalls ? I will be trying to get hold of my local dealer to find out if possible.
Regards,
Trader
Just wanted to let you all know that I got a 2000 TLC white with chrome wheels and tan leather. It is very sweet machine and is sure a pleasure to drive. Has anyone installed the Toyota or aftermarket DVD based navigation system ?
I checked with the local dealership and the parts guy told me that glass screen itself would cost 6100 !!!! Wires, installation etc would be extra...
Thanks,
Trader
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However, the $6100 price tag your dealer quoted you is rediculeous. You can purchase the Alpine system (DVD or CD) with pull out screen etc., and have it installed for about half that price. The only problem is you will lose your current 6 disk CD player. But you will still be able to play single CDs in the Alpine system.
I have not bought the Alpine system (yet) but I have seen it and talk to the installer. It is a very professional install that looks factory perfect.
Hope this helps.
About 'Collector's Edition' I think it is done by the dealerships and not by Toyota. For example, mine is called 'Karl Malone Edition' with badging all around and Karl's signature stitched onto the headrests of the front seats. Hope this helps.
Which Alpine nav system did you consider the one with the DVD or CD Rom ? I would appreciate if you could share the estimates for parts and labor given by the Alpine guys.
Thanks.
Unless you can say what's needed, it's hard to say what the price should be.
IMO basic brake work is easy to do yourself with minimal tools. I do not recommend turning the rotors on an 80 series Cruiser as they quickly warp. Just let the pads bed in, and if the rotors are warped, replace them. You can find aftermarket rotors for as low as $30 each.
In your case, have the dealer outline exactly what work they want to do. If they want to replace the calipers, have them show you why (pistons frozen?). Same with the rotors. Warped or too thin? Don't forget to pack the wheel bearings in the rear. If they can't or won't do this, take your vehicle elsewhere.
AFAIK the collector's edition is a dealer item. The 40th anniv is the factory edition.
Lx discussion gets a couple of posts a week,
I have found myself lurking in your discussion.
In reading you post, I find that you have the
same questions,problems and likes about the
L.C as I do with the 470.
I spent good one hour with the Service Manager at the local Toyota dealership near my home. There are totally 37 TSBs on 2000 TLC. He printed the ones that he thought were the ones that need any action. I am summarizing the details for everyone's benefit.
A/C Condenser Fan Relay Corrosion ( 98-00) AC003-00
Trailer Wire Harness ( 00 ) AX002-00
New Seat Belt Tongue Plate Stopper Service Parts (all applicable models of toyota TLCs 1991-2001 ) BO011-01
Seat Heater Replacement Procedure ( 98-00 ) BO016-00
Rear Brake Squeal Noise ( 98-00 ) BR005-01
Engine Immobilizer System Precautions ( All Toyota models after 1998 ) EL006-99
Electrical Wiring Diagram Amendment ( 00 ) EL006-00
Daytime Running Light Disabling Procedure ( All Models ) EL011-00
Transfer Case Buzz Noise ( 98-00 ) NV001-01
Shoulder Belt Anchor Tape Set (All Applicable Models ) BO019-01
Hope this helps others like me.
Regards
And by the way: Thanks for the TSB list. Very interesting.
thx.
CVA-1006 MobileMultimedia Station/Receiver/Ai-NET Controller (this is the monitor) $920
NVE-N852A DVD Vehicle Navigation System $1500
DHA-S680 6-Disc DVD/CD Ai-NET "Media" Changer $910
CDA-5755 In-Dash Add-On CD Player/DSP Processor $300
Labor $320
DVD picture bypass, free.
As far as the the engine I found both cars smooth as silk. The interior of the Lexus is a bit more luxurious but overall very similar. I found the leather seats identical to the Lx in comfort and in leather quality.
I was looking around for a TLC with navigation and found one at dealer in San Diego. Since this dealer was 100 miles away I called beforehand and agreed on a price. When I got there the salesman started doing a song and dance. I was the victim of the old bait and switch. I walked out and went to the Lexus dealer, within two minutes they knocked off $10,000 of the sticker and ended up with an Lx470 with Nav/.DVD
I was at the Lexus dealer last week. They had a couple of 2002 Lx's No changes, the car is exactly the same. I understand the DVD/NAV is now standard. They have also knocked off $3000 off the sticker, which explains why they gave me that deal in Aug. 01.
Thanks!
I have exactly the same things that you mentioned. However, when I was talking to the service guy they asked me if my TLC came with the "VIP System" - some security system that is installed by the toyota dealers. That led me to believe that I don't have a security system. I thought that flashing of the lights could be just one of those "keyless entry" features.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Trailer Wire Harness TSB:
Starting December 1999, the 2000 MY Land Cruiser came equipped with a factory installed towing converter system.
The new converter system will require installation of a sub-harness (Service P/N 08921-60820 ) from converter to hitch which will be available in all PIO/DIO hitch kits (PT228-60003). This converter system is NOT interchangeable with the previous Trailer Harness Kit ( P/N PT207-60994).
This bulletin provides a ten step procedure for replacing the new factory converter in case of repair or maintenance. Also provided is a procedure for functional verification once replacement is complete. Service Part Number 08940-60810 is to be ordered in the case of converter replacement. This serviec part contains the converter and wiring harness for the vehicle side. It does NOT contain the sub-harness (P/N 08921-60820 ) used from converter to hitch.
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Transfer Case Buzz Noise :
To minimize operating noise from the Transfer Case during low speed moderate acceleration and high speed light acceleration, the High Speed Output Gear, Shift Lever Assembly and Center Differential Case have been modified.
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I think the Rear Brake Squeal Noise TSB is also important. It mentions that to reduce the possiblity of rear brake squeal noise, the rear rotor and anti-squeal shims have been modified.
Hope this answers your questions.
Do you have the pictures that you can post on the web as to how it looks?
Did you install one screen or multiple screens ? For example a drop down from the top so that kids sitting in the last row can see because I would think it would be difficult for them to watch a movie if the screen is on the dash board.
What is the DVD picture bypass ?
What is the use of CDA-5755 In-Dash Add-On CD Player/DSP Processor ?
What did they do with the Toyota CD player ?
Again, thanks for posting the information.
I have only one screen in the front. Saw a picture in the shop, they added a second screen coming out of the center arm rest/storage section, looks very nice.
A DVD bypass is added so you can watch DVD movie while the car is moving.
The DSP processor is an EQ, Digital Harmonics Enhancer, surround sound, seat position selector, time correction, etc... A lot of things you can play with. It makes the music better, and the difference is easily noticeable.
The Toyota CD player is removed, I can play CD with the DVD changer, and the DSP processor can play CD as well.