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If you had posted it first, from the get go, I would have waited to post my/ this anecdote another day!
Great sunny day skiing @ Sierra Ski Ranch, Twi Bridges, CA! Denver Broncos are ahead! Chilli's in the slow cooker. So far, it's a great day !
Another reason why talk of the death of diesel is not coming to pass.mWSJ: "The Climate Snow Job" http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-climate-snow-job-1453664732?mod=trending_now_1
This is exactly what I want.
Anecdotally, We're able to get 49.5 MPG ( 100 to 150 miles) coming out of the mountains (7,300 ft downgrade) & don't miss any opportunity to use the passing lanes, (left or right) unless someone is totally clueless in the mountains, driving ( scared or dangerously- brake lights on every curve) slow or is trying to be a vigilante (have never had this yet) in the SOS/DD trek. The very few behind me with the hair on fire, I encourage them to pass me! The game that I find challenging is to use the no fuel draw and to use the brakes as little as possible. Love those paddle shifters with that 7 speed A/T..
But then, heaven forbid, the CUV/SUV segment is becoming popular in Europe? http://news.yahoo.com/vw-golf-europes-favorite-car-long-120226323.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNBF9id36sc
The federal government has joined the ranks of the bottom-of-the-barrel industries, according to a new survey from the American Customer Satisfaction Index. Americans' satisfaction level in dealing with federal agencies --everything from Treasury to Homeland Security -- has fallen for a third consecutive year, reaching an eight-year low.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-hate-the-u-s-government-more-than-ever/
This is true in the used market also.So for example, My cousin, brought back a used (for US markets) V8 gas Mercedes-Benz station wagon, black on black (garaged in Belgium) He gave it to his brother, both to own & to drive. (some folks have all the luck) The brother thought it was an environmental hooligan. He promptly & probably sold it for pennies on the dollar. For whatever reason, he then bought a brand-new Prius ! ? This was inexplicable to me, as the brother only puts about 3000 miles year on a car!
Canadian auto sales per year is FAR smaller than the US markets. This is especially true in niche markets, I.e. MB. So needless to say, a staion wagen, diesel are two more levels of niches , for niche, niche, niche, market !?
I'm liking the look of it ! If I didn't have the GLK 250 BT (2015 last model year), I think I could see my way to being a buyer of later model years, in this new generation. (MB diesel MSRP are still cheaper than the gas!?)
Perhaps MB will pull a VW customer care scenario & offer a great deal going forward on a new MB diesel (I can dream in print, can't I?)
Given the same low carbon type of fuel in each case, the EV will trounce the ICE.
I believe the last time I checked up on this, the total pollution cost of the hybrids was about the same over the life of the car, when including the pollution costs of manufacturing (higher for the hybrid), the battery disposal, and etc. It would depend on the kind of car being compared, of course a heavy 10 MPG SUV probably wouldn't measure up. The batteries add pollution to the build and recycle.
I drive a PHEV for the fun of it, for HOV access, and for fuel economy. Not for environmental reasons. And especially with my PHEV, the electricity environmental costs have to be considered.
For all intents and purposes even though CN is a North American country, CN is really a foreign car market.
With diesel they just plug in to the OBD and run the engine and look for visible emissions. The OBD looks to make sure there are no modifications according to the tester. The form has about 5 items that just say Pass. No levels tested. No way to compare if my diesel puts out more or less CO, CO2, PM, NOx etc etc than my gas vehicles.
REAL diesel emissions tests @ the biannual smog test level would have EASILY caught the " diesel cheating" & @ the anecdotal level! The software is/ was not geared to defeat a real world tail pipe only probe! That is how the WV emissions vendor & Iniversity staff saw it in the first place! It is reputed or seems to be designed to "trick" a full-on front end EPA FORMAL test ! We are now finding out EPA never did any anyway !! You got it wrong, also!
EPA/CARB (defacto) basically told VW that they were NOT going to check emissions in the real world! To this day, CARB does/did NOT test my (REAL WORLD) diesels emissions. In fact they do no factually know what mine posts!!!! They of course, happily takes my money and says it has PASSED! REALLY ? If it has, why would they then threaten to withhold operational registration, unless I get a non approved recall? This totally defies logic!! IF they do it that way, I, you, we, will never know the true status of the VW 480,000 diesel fleet! !! Come on now guys, get a grip ! EPA/CARB are PO'D because they got caught (red handed) NOT doing THEIR jobs! It is no more complicated than that!
"Gasoline consumption is growing at double the rate of diesel, Mr. Schiavetti said, adding “gasoline is winning clearly, and diesel is losing, particularly in Europe.”
Gasoline is “Winning Clearly” Over Diesel, says Saras Director (WSJ - paywall link)
The low prices have not gotten to CA. Our bottom price on RUG is $2.51. Close to me the cheapest is $3.03 and diesel is under 2 bucks. Location, location, location......
RBOB $ 1.01, ULSD $.9736 wholesale.
Folsom, CA. RUG $ 2.15, PUG $ 2.37, ULSD $ 1.89
So IF the European shift is to RUG/PUG, the Wall Street Journal article was a little light in the percentages shift and did not address the new Iranian production flow: I want to be/remain a US ULSD consumer! They will have to sell the EXCESS European & US, etc., refined ULSD somewhere! ?
Prices will, of corse vary! However, the 2 critical ratios will not vary, very much, relative to gas. One ratio is the barrel of oil 19 gal RUG/PUG. The other ratio: so in the case of the 12 VW Touareg TDI, 33 mpg/19 mpg gas, & 14 MB GLK 250 BT, 36 mpg/21 mpg gas, the ratios will not change that much, relative to gas. Savings for these examples will be $10,000 /$9,000 respectively.
The easy way to say that: would you prefer a higher cost per mile driven fuel costs? Or lower? The overwhelming majority would/are argue/arguing for the HIGHER cost per mile driven fuel cost ! Over 12 years & 180,000 miles, I know it works for me ! Y'all can use cheap calculators to compare.
So if the overwhelming majority vote for a higher cost per mile driven fuel prices, why would one blame the oil companies for trying to raise the prices ?
The VW diesel scandal is not a US government conspiracy (autoblog.com)
Big Shareholder Tells Volkswagen: Come Clean on the Diesel Scandal -- Soon (Fool.com - the big shareholder is the German state of Saxony).
Cadillac Won't Back Down From Its Diesel Program (carscoops.com)
My guess, the longer VW diesel certification tales, VW will experience higher pent up demand!
You do know, you can start a new topic ? You can title it: " I Hate VW TDI's, Why Don't You? "
US diesel sales were already going to drop because of declining gas prices and improving gasser economy. Add VW's screwup on top, and the long term sales will decline even more, once they get past the pent-up demand. Same goes for the EU, plus the impact of reducing/eliminating the diesel subsidy (lower fuel taxes) will have.
Whether VW diesel sales drop or rise is really not up to me directly. Those guys/girls that it is up to, get $ 60 M in GP's when they screw up! My anecdotal take: The waters are fine @ 3% to 5% diesels! My take is there will be growth, albeit slow.But then, why would one want it fast, especially since it has historically been slow!?