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2014 Grand Cherokee 3.6L Radiator Cooling Fan Runs Continuously
Hey there,
I recently replaced a faulty cooling fan on my 2014 Grand Cherokee Limited (3.6L V6). I used a Dorman unit sold by Autozone as an OEM replacement and the swap was quite simple, though the wiring harness did not match the OEM one and I had to do a bit of splicing to get it hooked up. 3 wires, no big deal to sort that one out.
However, upon plugging it in and finding that it worked, I realized a short while later that the fan was not shutting off, even with the car turned off and the engine completely cool. Short victory. I've been digging in and haven't found an adequate resolution yet.
My first thought was to check the relays but even after pulling both of the relays (hi/low) and a 60A fuse from the fuse box (everything in there listed as being related to the fans),the fan continues to run. This is puzzling, as it seems to me that cutting power at this junction should stop the fan. Clearly there is a deeper issue. I've seen this problem discussed in relation to older models and have seen mention of a separate cooling fan motor relay, mounted beneath the passenger headlight, but haven't found anything specific to this model year that references this equipment, nor where I may be able to find it. I popped in behind the headlight through the wheel well and didn't find anything that appeared to be a control relay. I've spent a few hours trying to figure out where they might have hidden it in this version of the car, or if it even has one in the first place.
Could this be a symptom of using a fan that is not an exact OEM replacement? The stock part is clearly of higher quality, but I don't see how that could impact this with only a positive, negative and ground going to either motor with no other wiring that would indicate some sort of control circuit built into the fan. It makes me wonder if this was a preexisting issue that caused the stock fan to run continuously until it burned out, unfortunately I didn't notice anything amiss before the stock fan failed so I really can't be sure which issue arose first. I'd hate to return this fan and pay five times more for an exact replacement only to find that the problem persists due to an equipment failure elsewhere in the system. My gut is telling me the fan itself is not the issue, but I welcome any input.
Documentation for any of this stuff seems hard to come by these days, so I'm hoping for some leads that can help me track down the problem.
Thanks!
I recently replaced a faulty cooling fan on my 2014 Grand Cherokee Limited (3.6L V6). I used a Dorman unit sold by Autozone as an OEM replacement and the swap was quite simple, though the wiring harness did not match the OEM one and I had to do a bit of splicing to get it hooked up. 3 wires, no big deal to sort that one out.
However, upon plugging it in and finding that it worked, I realized a short while later that the fan was not shutting off, even with the car turned off and the engine completely cool. Short victory. I've been digging in and haven't found an adequate resolution yet.
My first thought was to check the relays but even after pulling both of the relays (hi/low) and a 60A fuse from the fuse box (everything in there listed as being related to the fans),the fan continues to run. This is puzzling, as it seems to me that cutting power at this junction should stop the fan. Clearly there is a deeper issue. I've seen this problem discussed in relation to older models and have seen mention of a separate cooling fan motor relay, mounted beneath the passenger headlight, but haven't found anything specific to this model year that references this equipment, nor where I may be able to find it. I popped in behind the headlight through the wheel well and didn't find anything that appeared to be a control relay. I've spent a few hours trying to figure out where they might have hidden it in this version of the car, or if it even has one in the first place.
Could this be a symptom of using a fan that is not an exact OEM replacement? The stock part is clearly of higher quality, but I don't see how that could impact this with only a positive, negative and ground going to either motor with no other wiring that would indicate some sort of control circuit built into the fan. It makes me wonder if this was a preexisting issue that caused the stock fan to run continuously until it burned out, unfortunately I didn't notice anything amiss before the stock fan failed so I really can't be sure which issue arose first. I'd hate to return this fan and pay five times more for an exact replacement only to find that the problem persists due to an equipment failure elsewhere in the system. My gut is telling me the fan itself is not the issue, but I welcome any input.
Documentation for any of this stuff seems hard to come by these days, so I'm hoping for some leads that can help me track down the problem.
Thanks!
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@roadburner said:
I think the current Mustang is not as attractive inside or out as compared to its predecessor. If I wanted a Mustang I'd pick up a used Bullitt or Mach 1.
I recently saw a fully built Mach 1 on FB that was tempting me. Owner swapped in a fresh and bulletproofed supercharged Cobra R engine with over 700 hp. Wanted $30k after having spent 60-70k on it.
qbrozen
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I think the current Mustang is not as attractive inside or out as compared to its predecessor. If I wanted a Mustang I'd pick up a used Bullitt or Mach 1.Some guy in my town has a Mach 1. It is pretty sick.
One of the Lexus dealers not too far from me has this in stock
2020 Mustang Bullitt
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Perhaps one reason Ford raised prices so much on the gas Mustang and other gas vehicles was to raise money for their EV program. Ford has spent something like $50 billion dollars on EVs in the last 6 years, and it's been a financial disaster. This year alone Ford is expected to lose $5 billion on EVs, which is more than $100,000 for each one sold.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-projects-mounting-ev-losses-2025-q4-profit-up-2025-02-05/
"DETROIT, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Ford Motor (F.N), opens new tab on Wednesday projected up to $5.5 billion in losses on its electric vehicle and software operations this year, a loss similar to last year and a sign of the severe difficulties in cutting costs on battery-powered models."
Ford's debt to fund its EV program has also reached high levels, which is one reason the stock isn't doing very well.
GM also has spent at least $50 billion on EVs, and faces a similar financial reckoning.
I remember reading articles that GM and Ford were partially financing their EV programs with price increases on gas cars. But now we've reached a world where gas trucks often cost more than $60,000, and not that many people can afford them.
The EV spending spree is one of the things that has created the current affordability challenges for all vehicles.
EVs might be the future in the United States in the long run, but it seems like for the next couple of years things are looking bleak for EVs in America. We're likely to have a big EV sales surge until Sept. 30th, but when the $7500 EV credit ends things will get more challenging. Probably the manufacturers will just keep putting money on the hood for the next six months to move the metal, but with loses on every one sold they might consider significantly reducing EV production in a few months.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-projects-mounting-ev-losses-2025-q4-profit-up-2025-02-05/
"DETROIT, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Ford Motor (F.N), opens new tab on Wednesday projected up to $5.5 billion in losses on its electric vehicle and software operations this year, a loss similar to last year and a sign of the severe difficulties in cutting costs on battery-powered models."
Ford's debt to fund its EV program has also reached high levels, which is one reason the stock isn't doing very well.
GM also has spent at least $50 billion on EVs, and faces a similar financial reckoning.
I remember reading articles that GM and Ford were partially financing their EV programs with price increases on gas cars. But now we've reached a world where gas trucks often cost more than $60,000, and not that many people can afford them.
The EV spending spree is one of the things that has created the current affordability challenges for all vehicles.
EVs might be the future in the United States in the long run, but it seems like for the next couple of years things are looking bleak for EVs in America. We're likely to have a big EV sales surge until Sept. 30th, but when the $7500 EV credit ends things will get more challenging. Probably the manufacturers will just keep putting money on the hood for the next six months to move the metal, but with loses on every one sold they might consider significantly reducing EV production in a few months.
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No.. two more zeroes after the decimal point.Hi everyone,0.05% APR
Could someone please provide the current lease numbers for the following vehicle in ZIP code 95136?
Vehicle: 2025 Ford Mustang Mach-E Select (RWD)
Term: 36 months / 12,000 miles per year
I am looking for the Ford Credit "buy rate" Money Factor, the correct Residual Value, and any available lease rebates or incentives.
Thank you very much for your help!
51% residual
$5250 lease cash
0.05% is 0.00224?
.00002
kyfdx
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Hi, could you post current numbers and incentives for EV6:.00125 MF and 50% residual
Trim: GT-Line, AWD
Term: 36/12k
Zip: 21045
$12,200 lease cash
$1000 bonus cash
kyfdx
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Re: 2025 Audi A6 / S6 E-Tron Lease Deals, Incentives, Rebates, and Prices
Can I please get the MF/RV for S6 etron prestige Quattro,.00242 MF and 58% residual
36/10k
zip code 13090?
Thanks!
$7500 lease cash
kyfdx
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Hyundai and Kia dealers are the worst. In Louisville you can include the Genesis dealer as well.Dealers will try anything.Third (and probably final) dealer service on the Maverick this morning, the second one at this dealer (James Collins Ford). Asked for the $39.95 synthetic blend special, a brake flush, one TSB, and two recalls. Brake flush was only $80.78, which was impressively cheap compared to what I expected.————————————————
The $39.95 oil change rang up as $90.27 straight parts and labor. The service writer's explanation was that the special was only for five quarts of oil, and my car took six, so I'm not eligible for the special. This is contrary to every other shop I've visited that will honor the special and charge for the extra quart, along with the tax and disposal fees that aren't included in the special.
I used some Ford points and only paid $80.94 out of pocket, but it left a very bad taste in my mouth, and I won't be back to that dealer. Similar issue on my first visit there, which they corrected when I left a review calling them out, but I'm just going to cut my losses at this point.
I don’t know why you’re backing off now especially since you don’t plan to go back. Therefore, this is the perfect time to slam them. That tactic sounds like a classic bate-and-switch maneuver since a lot of cars today take more than 5 quarts. I’m sure other customers would like to know how this dealer operates.
jmonroe
Once I fell for a buy 3 get one free oil change scam at the dealer where I bought a 1997 Chrysler Cirrus. When I brought it in they told me that the deal was not for the Cirrus but for the 2000 Chrysler Concord I had bought at another dealer and no longer owned. I had them drop the lift and left.
Just yesterday my son took a friend to a Kia dealer to look at a Sorento which was listed on their website. Despite being on the lot for 79 days the salesman told the friend that the title for the vehicle had not arrived and he would be willing to sell it to her but she couldn’t register it. He then started pushing to sell other cars. They left.
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I think the current Mustang is not as attractive inside or out as compared to its predecessor. If I wanted a Mustang I'd pick up a used Bullitt or Mach 1.