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...Not certain I'd want another Outback. Been there, done that with Subaru - and, I've read that the latest iteration of their infotainment system is a bit buggy...

I do like the fact that the Camry is available with AWD - it seems like my plan to move somewhere warmer is a non-starter with the wife. Of the cars I've mentioned, I'm looking at the top trim level - spoil myself. For the Camry, that would be the XSE trim, which stickers at about $42K equipped the way I want...

I can totally see wanting to try something new after owning a Subaru for ten years.

The Outback infotainment's main flaw is this—it takes almost a minute after start up to become fully functional. Seems like the processor is spooling up or whatever, but after that it works well. We like the wireless AndroidAuto/CarPlay, which is really nice, and the very large map for navigation is the best we've had in a car.

As you say, the totally loaded Camry XSE with every option lists for $42k. What color combination do you like? It's a bit over-the-top, but I like the red leather interior that's available.

As we all know, it's challenging to get a discount from msrp on a Toyota these days, but the CarEdge buying service seems to be able to negotiate discounts of $1500 or so on high-end Camrys. A year ago when I did some preliminary negotiation on a Camry LE my polite request for a discount was dismissed as unrealistic. Many Toyotas are sold before they hit the lots at full price or even above. The reality is that Toyota's factories can't keep up with demand in the US, and prices reflect that.

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