Subaru Crew - Meet The Members II

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  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    juice,

    the other possiblity is that you were accelerating harder then and now that you know what the car is capable of and what it isn't, you don't stomp it quite so often.

    25mpg is remarkable.

    -Colin
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Hey, I can afford a Rex! Too bad it's a 1972 model! ;-)

    Think about how cutting edge (literally) the XT was way back in 1985. The wedge look has been imitated by almost everyone.

    -juice
  • 1subydown1togo1subydown1togo Member Posts: 348
    It's up on http://isuzu-suvs.com also can be accessed via http://isuzu-suvs.com/duhhh.asf
    Thanks, Mike!
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    This is from the Subaru history link above. Defintely a car ahead of it's time:

    "This series' hallmark is its styling, designed to evoke the image of the aerodynamic shape of a hawk or eagle. The Alcyone's sweeping wedge shape and the fully rounded curves enabled this model to achieve the world's lowest air resistance level, 0.29 CD (coefficient of drag)."

    -Dennis
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    My milage experience has been similar to juice's. I started out at 23-24 and now get 25-26. If anything, I think I drive my Forester harder now that I'm comfortable with it's limits.

    Ken
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246

    ..Mike

  • 1subydown1togo1subydown1togo Member Posts: 348
    This is the birthday card that Michael made for me last week...it's my liltle wagon

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  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
    I just listened to that sound file. I wouldn't have believed it if not hearing it for myself. They should have asked her one more question: "Are you blonde? If you are, you can get our special roof highlighting service for only $50, which is half off its usual price of $64.50." :-)

    KarenS
    Host
    Owners Clubs
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Future Graphic Artist in the making?

    -Dave
  • 1subydown1togo1subydown1togo Member Posts: 348
    Right now, he wants to be a car designer.
  • bsvollerbsvoller Member Posts: 528
    I routinely get 28 mpg in Denver, mixed city/hwy with my '01 Forester S MT.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I've got competition (as a graphic designer)!

    Happy Birthday Serge! And... another February birthday...

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I'll have two new trannies and top off the halogen fluid, please! :-)

    Sorry Bob, you're fired. I'm hiring Michael as the new Official Subaru Crew Art Director (please let him know of his new position). You can stay on as a Consultant, but only if you work Pro-Bono. ;-)

    Check it out - gold rims, rally style. Hood scoop. Look at those ground-hugging ground effects! The side markers, coffee can exhaust, and large top spoiler are very "import scene" accurate, so bonus points for those.

    Plus, his name is Michael. That's second only to Dave.

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    because of youth! :(

    Bob
  • 1subydown1togo1subydown1togo Member Posts: 348
    You guys crack me up!. Tomorrow is his birthday (12 years old already!), so I better start making him a card! He already got a memory card for his BD, and he wants either the Lego Star Wars Imperial shuttle or a 1/18th scale 2001 Impreza WRC car by autoart. Oh, the joys of youth....
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Easy choice...the WRC car. ;-)

    -juice
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Serge,

    Kinda late for this now but, the SWRT store has a children's line when you're ready to dress him in WRC gear. :-)

    http://store.swrt.com/

    -Dennis
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    You think she's unhappy now, wait till she finds out you're going to be chatting instead of cooking her dinner for Valentine's....
  • babaorileybabaoriley Member Posts: 74
    Thanks Mike and Serge for that link. I'm at work and kept having to pause it to keep from laughing too loud. Very funny!

    Because I normally read this forum at work, I lurk far too often, but thought I'd give an update on my Sube.

    2000 Wintergreen OB
    Just over 30K miles.
    23.5 MPG, 60% highway, 40% city. I usually drive as fast as I can on the freeway, averaging 80 MPH or so, so I think my mileage is pretty good.
    Not a single problem, except one speaker losing adhesion from the base, reglued and is fine. I know, I'm cheap, would've been a good time to upgrade, but I just bought a house (I live in the Bay Area) and money is scarce now.
    Haven't had the Air/Fuel Ratio recall done, because I don't want to ruin a good thing. Can people relate experiences?

    I really love driving my Sube. Couple of weeks ago, all the rain made for a muddy lot next to my Park & Ride lot, so I enjoyed some great AWD drifts. Then spent hours cleaning everything, but it was worth it!

    Thanks to all who post regularly, I get lots out of this forum. My apologies for not participating more often.

    -Brett
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Got out of that by bringing home a nice bouquet. Nothing like flowers to make her day. Maybe I'll bring flowers next time we go to a Subie dealer! ;-)

    You just missed a great chat, Brett. It was hard to type fast enough to keep up!

    I found out something interesting - did you folks know the EPA highway test cycle never exceeds 56 mph? How real-world is that?

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Probably goes back to the time of the national speed limit being 55mph.

    -mike
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    56mph cap.
    If they had tested my OB @ 56mph, it would have been 54mph. My speedo is -2mph against the supposed actual (GPS).
    What effects the variance will have?
    Do they test a number of cars and then average off?

    -Dave
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Guess so, paisan. I fine it interesting that my Forester can break 30 mpg at speeds much higher than that, given its non-aerodynamic shape. Drag increases with the square of speed.

    I don't know if the EPA uses the actual speedo, or a dyno on a simulated drive. I think the latter. I'm sure they correct for speedo error, though.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I dunno seems strange, my dad gets about 30mpg on the highway with his legacy L '97, maybe it's the MT that helps out. Of course he drives like 75-80mph like myself.

    -mike
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    but Beth & I had a wonderful dinner out. Our exchange student, Mayuko, baby sat for Emily. It was like being on a date - more fun than being with you guys!!!

    Steve
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    So, if the EPA numbers are measured on a dyno, then they would not include aerodynamic drag at all. Unless they have a moving ground plane in a wind tunnel, which I seriously doubt. Perhaps they correct the dyno measurement with drag estimates.

    Anybody know the details?

    Craig
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Having a nanny is similar, I guess. Wednesday is our date night, so we get to go out at least once a week.

    Craig: where's our Research Director, Mike Smith? He knows everything. ;-)

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    So, it's run on a dyno by the manufacturer on a prototype, with only 10% checked by the EPA. Sounds like a recipe for easy cheating, no?

    Also, the weather is nice (68-86F), sounds like aerodynamics drag is completely unaccounted for. The city tests hit 56mph (huh? you can't go 35 in DC), and the highway tests hit 60mph (65-80 is more like it).

    Top it off, they just artibrarily reduce their results by 10% city, 22% highway. I guess this is supposed to cover aerodynamic drag and other real world conditions, but it's certainly not the same across the board.

    Your tax dollars at work.

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    There are some local roads around here (expressways, not highways) that have speed limits of 50mph. Wonder if 56mph is where cops start cracking down?

    The city test seems reasonable with stop-and-go built into the test. The highway test is the one that seems a little dated.

    Ken
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I guess if I draft a UPS truck at 60mph, I could get 35mpg!

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I've actually gotten on the CB and chatted with a few rigs and wound up drafting about a car length behind them for 200 miles. Bumped the Trooper milage up to like 25-28mpg! :)

    Last time we drove to NC the 2 guys in the Montero and amigo drafted me, they increased their mpg to about 15-16mpg (they usually get 10-12)

    The rule for drafting is you need to have the major surface of your vehicle withing 2.5x the height of the vehicle you are drafting. So for a big-rig you should be about 25-30 feet from your windshield to the back of the truck :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    LOL, mike! The amount of drag equals your XT6, but only when you're behind a semi! You probably have the most aerodynamic vehicle of its time, and the least, at the same time. :-)

    Hope you don't get rocks kicking up to crack the windsheild glass. Of course you are so close it would hit your bull bar!

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Bit hosted the pic for me, so you guys can see the snow man that we made recently, plus the free hat I got from that chat with the Subaru Cross Country Ski Team. :-)

    http://www.bitman.com/juice/

    -juice
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    I still think Juice's Forester is freaky. Hell freezes before I see 30mpg in either legacy.

    Then again, I have 2 '99s.....the OB revs a lot more freely and has better throttle response than the GT. I don't know if this is because the OB got wrung out for dear life early in its life, or that the previous GT owner had that silly JCSports intake, and I missed something putting the stocker back together.

    Head Gasket problems in '99s beginning to show up on i-club. :o(
    I was hoping I'd dodged a bullet.
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Pictures link is in the Photo Gallery.

    Packed 5 (including myself) 'subearu' sized guys (avg of 160#) into my Outback and headed downtown for the show. Probably the most weight I've had in it. Acceleration was affected a bit, but I didn't think it was fighting to get out of it's way. I think it performed well.

    On to the show!

    First off, I'll be going on a Tuesday next year. It was extremely busy yesterday at the show. Very hard to take pictures with people walking in front of you. :P

    The new Forester is nice. Can't really compare the back seat to the old since I haven't sat in the back seat of an old one. But, the new one didn't seem that bad. They had 2 WRX's - both with the hood's up and the intercoolers already beaten up. Boy does that Legacy GT sedan look nice in silver (make sure to look my comment in the Photo Gallery). The Baja passthrough thingy is just a small oval opening. I brightened that picture a bit to show the detail of the opening more.

    Took a look at the Oddesey per my wife and wasn't sure what all the fuss is about. Sure it's got the "magic" 3rd bench in the rear. And it's roomy. But, the Mazda MPV didn't seem that bad either. (remember, I haven't driven either of these - this is just purely based on my observation at the autoshow) Liked the actual window on the sliding doors of the MPV. The new BMW 7 series is cool looking, but the inside is pretty plain, now that they moved things to that single joystick thingy (they even had 4 kiosks on display that you could demo the thing with {and it was in a minimizable Microsoft window!}). Skipped Chevrolet, Chrysler, and couple of others due to the crowds. We'll probably cover those at the Milwaukee show.

    Also, I'll try to get additional photos (of missed details) Saturday at the Milwaukee show.

    -Brian
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    I am not a Subaru owner, nor is there a chance I ever will be, but I have a question. Is there a Subaru employee who posts here? If so, could you please contact me at the e-mail address listed on my profile? I've got a few brief questions for you.

    Thanks.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Loosh: or maybe it's that heavy right foot or yours. One factor is that I usually have the kid in my car, so I'm hauling baby gear, not something else. ;-)

    Brian: did you post more details under Future Models? I'll go check.

    -juice
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    Hope to see most of you on Thursday night for the Cubaru Crew chat... and I wanted to invite you over to a topic we're playing with over on the News & Views board called Amatuer Redesign Studio. The idea is to play around with digital images of cars and let your imagination go... like this Outback "Safari Edition"...


    image




    PF Flyer aka moderator_bob, your humble chat host

    Host

    Pickups & News & Views Message Boards

  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    It will take a while, even if you only view the pics and skip all the comments, to view the iClub's group effort at that.


    http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115155


    It began as a few folks wondering what alternate colors would look like on the WRX, since it isn't offered in very many. It mutated into something more... some very good work in there.


    -Colin

  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Bob -- Nice photo! Got a good laugh at the safari look.

    Colin -- Thanks for the link. Holy cow! Some folks have far too much time on their hands. I got a kick out of seeing all the different colored WRXs and the extra content. The topic just goes on and on. My favorite color was the dark metallic blue/grey a la BMW and the WRX-wing cracked me up!

    Ken
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Man, some of those guys really have a handle on photochop, that stuff is amazing. Many of them look real. Well, not the Amphicar, but many others do. ;-)

    Maybe I should turn my Miata into a Mach 5, what do you think?

    Some should be submitted to SoA, the coupe especially. But a limo would solve all my problems! Pikachu would get axed by Lutz because it IS an angry kitchen appliance.

    My daughter would like the PowerPuff one, but I prefer the Mystery Machine.

    Oh, and Wyle E. Coyote finally found a way to catch the Road Runner! :-)

    -juice
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Ken, I liked the WRX-wing too. And Subaru actually does make a color in other markets a little like that dark metallic grey, I forget what they call it. I'd love to have something like that.

    -Colin
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They should sell an anthracite color. It just sounds cool.

    -juice
  • nygregnygreg Member Posts: 1,936
    Congratulations! How is the Odyssey? I haven't had a chance to post recently, so I'm playing catch up. Hope you and the Mrs. are enjoying it. Great story on the Windstar inspection. :)

    Greg
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Actually it's called Adobe Photoshop, not Photochop. I've been using it for years.

    Bob
  • armac13armac13 Member Posts: 1,129
    I think Juice was being clever like referring to MS Windoze.

    Ross
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    or micro$oft. bob, did you look at that thread by chance? just curious.

    -Colin
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