2013 and earlier-Honda Civic Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • WHLoverWHLover Member Posts: 1
    I just bought 09 HOnda civic sedan AT 4door LX for 18000 OTD, downpaid 3000(with my car trade in), 1.9%APR for 36 months, It was on Jan 5, 2009.
    Is this a good deal or so so?
    Thanks
  • jimb519jimb519 Member Posts: 11
    The LX-S had some features that I really didn't want so that is why I went with the LX. Had problems with the alloy wheels on a previous Honda and the spoiler was not a big deal. Maybe their alloys are better now than they used to be. I was able to get my first color choice of the urban titanium.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I'm curious, what kind of a "problem" did you have with your alloy wheels?

    Not everybody cares about the extras on the LX-S and for those people the LX will be just fine.
  • jimb519jimb519 Member Posts: 11
    Had build up of dirt/debris that caused tires to go soft. Needed to be cleaned around the rims frequently to prevent this. Perhaps more of a problem in the Northeast with crazy winter weather than in other parts of the country.
  • tupuctupuc Member Posts: 27
    Hey

    Has anybody heard anything about the new offers since yesterday was the last day of the 1.99 and 3.99 APR? or normally when are they supposed to post them?

    I checked the website today and it says that currently there aren't any national offers. :P
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    OK,

    Just something I hadn't heard any complaints about.

    Thanks.
  • billyrizbillyriz Member Posts: 1
    i bought a 09 civic LX for 16.5 + taxes + title. however, to beat the competitors they threw in Splash Guards, 1st Free Service, Wheel Locks & Door handle Guards. this was from honda in san jose. the dealer who made us the initial offer of 16.7 was really upset, but we had to go for the best deal.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    Had build up of dirt/debris that caused tires to go soft

    That's a new one to me. If my dealer told me that, I wouldn't believe him.
  • janice47janice47 Member Posts: 2
    I can't imagine that they're not gonna come out with similar offers soon. There are still plenty of 2008's on the lots, they need to get rid of them.

    Honda sales were down over 30% in December. I'm waiting a little bit longer, haven't decided if I'm gonna get 08 or 09, we'll see.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Me either. How could the dirt get between the bead and the rim anyway?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,471
    It's not dirt.... it's corrosion on the rim, breaking down the rubber on the bead of the tire...

    If you give the rim a good wire brushing, every time the tire is off of it, you can prevent and/or fix it... But, once the rims get good and corroded, and the tires old... it is hard to fix...

    I've had it happen on a couple of cars...

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Probably an East Coast thing. Not so common where I've been.
  • IntelliShopperIntelliShopper Member Posts: 4
    Honda posted 37% lower sales and the inventory of backlogged cars is growing.

    Some of the sales people show a monumental misunderstanding on who is setting the market price. The closing of car factories tells the tale. Honda and the dealers had better offer rebates. Patience is a virtue for the buyer.
  • mplshondadlrmplshondadlr Member Posts: 409
    Actually your figure is close but off slightly. The figure is -34.0% from the previous December. However total sales from 2007 to 2008 are down just 6.7%. In fact the numbers are as follows:

    "Honda Division's 2008 annual sales of 1,284,261 decreased 6.7 percent compared to 2007. Honda Division's December monthly sales of 75,405 represent a decrease of 34.0 percent compared to 2007. Annual total car sales of 794,421 for the Honda Division increased 1.0 percent and set a record for the fourth consecutive year. The division's truck sales decreased by 16.9 percent to 489,840." emphasis added

    source: http://www.hondanews.com/categories/1097/releases/4898

    So my guess is with annual sales down less then 10% there is no reason for Honda to rush out and change the way they have been conducting retail business. They have already addressed the stacking inventory by reducing production across the board - some models as much as 40% from last year. Really what Honda is going to do is scale back production this year and reduce the number of vehicles on dealers lots. It may take 60 - 90 days but this spring I would expect dealers again to almost run out of some of the more popular models Honda offers.

    Once this happens, it will then become a sellers market :)
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    If all other major car makers follow suit, resulting in an overall shortage of new cars, and also if car buyers don't continue flocking to used cars as they have been of late, yes, that could become more of a seller's market. But I wouldn't bet the farm on it if I were you. ;)
  • IntelliShopperIntelliShopper Member Posts: 4
    BusinessWeek quotes Honda Motor Co. as saying that U.S. sales plunged 35%, while sales of Honda Civics fell 36% year-over-year. These numbers are from yesterday - http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D95H6GBG0.htm.

    I'm pulling for Honda and Toyota. They make good cars. I am also saying, however, that reducing or eliminating the rebates at this time is a bad move. We'll buy when the price lowers and that's how you'll reduce your overstock. Lots are packed with '08s and '09s, and there's less than a half a year left until the '10s arrive. Since the banks are keeping tight with the financing loans (not a problem for me with my cash in hand), lower prices are the solution to reducing supply. Bear out this economy and then a sellers' market will return. Layoffs at the plants are becoming public now.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    Yep, I could see that happen in the northern states that use salt on the roads in the winter.
  • jimb519jimb519 Member Posts: 11
    Thanks to all who corrected me on the alloy wheel issue. Corrosion is the issue and is not limited to the Honda alloy wheels but to others as well. They do indeed look great but I did not want to take the chance this time around. This forum has been great for all those looking to buy. Great idea by billyriz post to ask for some add ons. My dealer did not hesitate for the splash guards and all season mats.
  • tupuctupuc Member Posts: 27
    The leasing offers are up on Honda's website, still waiting for the financing ones,

    I'm impatiently waiting for those since even though I have already given a 500 dlls deposit in Dec and kinda locked in w/the local honda, my car will arrive until Feb and therefore I'll be able to take advantage of the new 2009 offers. ;)
  • sinsdsinsd Member Posts: 46
    GOOD color choice; Urban Titanium was my 1st and only choice. I don't care about the trunk lid spoiler on the LX-S, but the black interior, which is the same as the SI, is plenty fine; the wheels are a great deal and I absolutely love the leather-wrapped steering wheel. Very happy with my new 09
  • nvreadernvreader Member Posts: 11
    Why would you ask now,only to beat yourself up after the fact?. Enjoy your new car. :)
  • janice47janice47 Member Posts: 2
    Yes, overall sales are down only 10% when compared to an annual basis, but keep in mind that sales didn't start tanking until closer to the end of the year. Honda was doing great this summer - the Civic was the best selling car in the US at one point.

    Let's be honest, Honda is not gonna be looking at "overall annual" sales when coming up with rebates. They are more concerned about recent sales going back 2-3 months. Inventory is piling up everywhere. Executives can't just say "oh, no worries, our sales are only down 10% annually".

    The fact is, sales are down over 30% when compared to the same period last year. I'm counting on the fact there will be better deals in the next few months.
  • mplshondadlrmplshondadlr Member Posts: 409
    "I'm counting on the fact there will be better deals in the next few months."

    Remember, that is exactly what people were saying in November and December and look what happened. Honda pulled back ALL of the low APR options with little additional dealer support.

    They (Honda) aren't as stressed about the current market like other manufactures. They have positioned themselves to have fewer cars produced for 2009 while still selling as many or more cars then they did in 2008.

    Honda builds good cars and have never had to apologize for their prices. Unlike every other brand, they have never offered a consumer rebate or zero percent financing - and they never will. :)
  • mzbluemzblue Member Posts: 14
    i had the exact same situation. Guy offered me 16.7 with splash guards and another comes along with the 16.5 and i really feel bad but i had to go for the best deal. I really do feel awful cuz i told the guy over the phone i'll take his offer but when next phone call offered me something better i had to take it. Who knows, i may have had something better or not but i had to do everything monday morning so i could go to work later on. my phone kept ringing all day, i guess all dealers in the area were willing to get me to come in. i had a guy i walked out on call me wanting to know if i was in the market for a car. After 3hrs at the dealership, he came down to $17.2 and wouldn't go down any further. i saved myself 700 bucks from his lowest deal.
    i do have to say few dealers here have 08's. i was in the market for a 2008 civic and i couldn't find it so i jumped on an 09. worth it!
  • jimb519jimb519 Member Posts: 11
    Don't feel too bad about saving $200. The dealer wouldn't feel to bad if they got the extra $200 from you!
  • flyingbrick3flyingbrick3 Member Posts: 8
    15869
    - 159 mudguard package
    - 670 destination
    - 500 rebate
    --------------------
    14540 for car
    add ttl 16965 otd seems to be a decent offer from honda
  • voltron12voltron12 Member Posts: 13
    How does this deal sound so far? I just read about the $500 dealer incentive, so that gives me a little more negotiation ammo for the next round of chats:

    2009 Honda Civic EX-L with mudguard package:
    $20K + taxes + titles + fees = ~$21400 out the door.

    I'm thinking with the $500 incentive, I should get to $20,900 out the door.

    Do you think I can get to $20K out the door? Or do you think I can do better?

    Comments appreciated. First time car buyer and I'm loving the negotiation games and process. I had a smile on my face the whole time.
  • matt80matt80 Member Posts: 5
    Honda Civic 2009 LX automatic for 17600 OTD, Can someone please let me know if that a good price? I need an answer fast...please.

    Thank you. :confuse:
  • voltron12voltron12 Member Posts: 13
    Invoice is $17400 (incl $670 destination), I think with the current trend, you can go lower (I'm at $500 under KBB invoice on an EX-L, almost free destination, right?). I'm not sure if the Honda $500 Factory Rebate is still going on, if so, I'm sure your dealer hasn't mentioned it. That and waiting a few weeks till the end of the month might drop you to the high $16K region. Best of luck.
  • matt80matt80 Member Posts: 5
    Thank you So Much for the quick response.
    Is the price you mentioned with tax, tittle License...?
  • civic09civic09 Member Posts: 18
    civic 09 LX should be able to get for 16.8k, EX for 18k, for EX-L add another1k
  • josomejosome Member Posts: 8
    This is the car price or the OTD price, I mean include everything.
  • matt80matt80 Member Posts: 5
    Is 16.8, Out the Door?

    Thanks for relpying to my question :)
  • matt80matt80 Member Posts: 5
    this is OTD, including everything. So is that a good price?

    thanks again.
  • josomejosome Member Posts: 8
    The price is pretty good~~

    I ever got around 17500, but the dealer asked me to use financing, when I could pay cash. Got pissed off, then left

    Good price
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Keep in mind that if there is a special deal that requires financing via the manufacturer, you can make one payment or so and then pay it off, and get the deal at the cost of one month's interest. Might be worth it if there is a special discount offered by the finance arm of the manufacturer.
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    YUP !!!

    1. Just ask if there are any pre payment penalties.

    2. as a slight deviation from what backy recommended: if you want, then: Ask for a no first month, no interest free month's

    3. cash out of the deal in the second month (pay all cash, as you had wanted)

    you have just accomplished your goal with out any drama, albeit a month or two longer.

    In effect the dealership just wanted a reasonable sign they have a chance to make more monies, after giving you an up front "deal/accomodation"
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    I think pre-payment penalties are illegal in most states if not all.

    The reason for asking for the buyer to finance with the dealer might have been just as you said. Or there could have been an incentive from Honda's finance company to allow a bigger discount on the car. This is very common with other manufacturers, just not sure if Honda does it.
  • matt80matt80 Member Posts: 5
    Did anyone hear about, or got a better deal on a civic 2009 LX automatic 4 door?

    Again, that is the price they offered including everything (TTL)

    Thanks.
  • ruking1ruking1 Member Posts: 19,826
    Yes, I think you are correct. I just wanted to make sure folks ask that : aka no surprises.

    It is one thing to get pissed off, & walk away. Unless the other person is being abusive, there is really not much upside to demonstrate that one IS pissed off; unless of course.... there is an up side ;) :lemon: :shades:
  • fitness1fitness1 Member Posts: 1
    I am in the market for a civic 2009 lx 4 door, Automatic. What do people pay these days, out the door? Also, what are they willing to add. I just got an e-mail for the dealership, saying Honda got some special going on this weekend. Should I wait?
    appreciate any help I can get
  • jerseygirl8jerseygirl8 Member Posts: 6
    Hi. I went to a NJ dealer in Old Bridge to look at the 2009 Honda Civic LX. I had contacted them and received an e-mail price of $16,056 on the car. The final out the door price is $18.323.00. This includes everything---tax, fees, etc. I'm not sure if
    this is the lowest I can go. Does this sound like a good deal? Would appreciate
    some feedback. I haven't applied for financing yet but I am putting down a large payment and have very, very good credit. Thanks
  • voltron12voltron12 Member Posts: 13
    You can get lower. Do some competitive bidding on that at other dealerships. Look back a few pages and you'll see people are able to get about $1600 less than what you're at. Be patient!

    I'm at $20,600 OTD with a 09 Civic EX-L. I think I can go lower to $19K OTD.

    Good luck.
  • dadscaravandadscaravan Member Posts: 2
    Bought it on the 5th. Had an offer from another dealership for 20,170 which includes destination. Was wanting to get the deal done as Honda's financing was lower than my credit union offered. Dealer offered 20,400 which included destination and included the mudgards. Other dealership was 200 miles away, so accepted this price and took Honda's financing. Other costs were doc fees of 150 and license transfer/title of 80 and sales tax. Very satisfied with the deal. Do appreciate all of the info from these posts and Edmunds in general. Be prepared when you go into the finance and insurance closer. There will be pressure for the extended warranty and you have to say no at least 3 times. They are great salesmen and ask you lead in questions to make their argument. JUST SAY NO NO NO unless you are willing to pay for the warranty and oil changes and other extras they are trying to sell you. thanks to all
  • dadscaravandadscaravan Member Posts: 2
    I think that is a fair price. With Edmunds and all showing invoice over 20k, I don't think you can expect them to go much lower. I shopped and shopped it and don't think it is reasonable to expect a 1000 or more under invoice. Unless it is a sport to you to get the absolute last penny out of someone at some point you just pay a reasonable price. I needed the car, I was offered a fair price and took it.
  • mzbluemzblue Member Posts: 14
    Hi,
    i'm actually in jersey now and spend more time in jersey than MD or PA where i live but i do know the tax in jersey is 6%. i bought mine in MD with price of $17.598 including tax and 100 dealer fee and the car was 16.5k. So if they're offering you at $16.056, how come your OTD price is much more than mine since the tax is the same?
  • jerseygirl8jerseygirl8 Member Posts: 6
    Thanks. Acutally I checked with four other dealers. I went back to the original dealer who took $200 off the price of the car and is giving me $500 for my "98 Escort. The total out the door price is down to $17,751. All the other dealers want more even
    after my pushing.
  • jerseygirl8jerseygirl8 Member Posts: 6
    Hi. Actually the sales tax in NJ is 7%. The dealer has now offered to take $200 off
    the price of the car plus give me $500 for my '98 Escort. The total out the door price is now $17,751. There aren't any incentives being offered and I need to get a new car now.
  • westy_manwesty_man Member Posts: 3
    I purchased the Civic on 1/8/09 from Pacific Honda in San Diego. I dealt with Michael Leslie who is the internet manager. I live 300 miles away from the dealership, so I was a bit weary that when I arrived there was going to be some type of "added" fee or the good old "we just sold your car, but we have this other one that we can make you a great deal on" switcharoo. But, my concerns were unfounded. When I arrived, Mike retrieved the 2009 LX-S in polished metallic metal color which still had all of the shipping protective plastic coating stuff on the hood, trunk, etc. I got in and it had only 8.1 miles on the odometer. After I test drove it, he showed me a piece of paper with the price we negotiated over the phone and it was exactly what we discussed...$16,929 which came to $18,534 OTD. My previous best offer was from Lompoc Honda for $17,600 plus fees. Pacific Honda did some very low pressure sales for the extra stuff (extended warranty, lowjack, alarm, protective spray, etc.) which I politely declined. Overall, to my pleasant surprise, it was a great buying experience. Checking prices on this board was very helpful for my buying experience. I thank all of you that posted before me.
  • josomejosome Member Posts: 8
    thanks!! ruking1 and backy

    The dealer is pretty far away from my home, when I arrived at 7:30pm. They asked me to sign the financing contract within 1 hour (they have been trying to add hidden fees all the time, that is the reason I got pissed off).

    So, you guys got some ideas on a good/resonable price on the LX 4dr?

    :shades:
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