Real-World Trade-In Values

stickguy

breld said:

Good suggestion. So Vroom puts it at $39,728.

Sounds better. Just wanted to get a reasonable feel for the values of the cars to make an informed decision.

usually you seem excited. This one really seems like you are trying to talk yourself into it. I would say just hang onto the Supra for now. But I know that isn't any fun!

breld

stickguy said:

breld said:

Good suggestion. So Vroom puts it at $39,728.

Sounds better. Just wanted to get a reasonable feel for the values of the cars to make an informed decision.

usually you seem excited. This one really seems like you are trying to talk yourself into it. I would say just hang onto the Supra for now. But I know that isn't any fun!

So that comes through my posts? You’re not wrong...but I’m having a hard time letting go of the idea of a manual again. Maybe it’s just not time yet.

qbrozen

Meh. It is overrated. Seems great in your head and then you live with it for a short while and think “why did I want this?”

stickguy

I want one again. I do miss it. but have not DD'd one in about 7 years, so who knows? But it isn't some must do.

I would be fine with a 2 fer. Something useful as my regular car, and a true toy (like the Miata) with a manual. Though right now, anything I get will barely get used, since I don't daily drive period.

tjc78

stickguy said:

I want one again. I do miss it. but have not DD'd one in about 7 years, so who knows? But it isn't some must do.

I would be fine with a 2 fer. Something useful as my regular car, and a true toy (like the Miata) with a manual. Though right now, anything I get will barely get used, since I don't daily drive period.

I went out two times yesterday and once this morning. Felt weird lol

28firefighter

qbrozen said:

Meh. It is overrated. Seems great in your head and then you live with it for a short while and think “why did I want this?”

I must still be in the honeymoon phase.

pensfan83

I could live with a manual as a DD again but the wife will not and I've got no objections since she's indulged me with buying not one, but 2 manual coupes.

breld

I'm nothing like I was 10-20 years ago when it was "manual or nothing," but of course there was a heck of a lot more options at that time.

The last daily driver I had with a manual was my 2016 S4. I don't have any interest in one as a daily driver, but obviously would still prefer one for the fun car. Having said that, the Supra has definitely opened up my eyes to not necessarily needing one.

And, part of it is my youngest son, who turns 16 next week, has an interest in learning to drive a stick. I gave him one lesson in my 228i before I traded it, and kinda need one if I want to continue teaching him.

28firefighter

You're going to teach him how to drive a manual on an M2?! You need to find like a 1999 Civic to teach him on...

tifighter

I can report that a 1981 Toyota Tercel also works for learning to drive a manual. It made me who I am today.

explorerx4

Air cooled VW Bug's were great for teaching someone to drive a manual trans.

xwesx

tifighter said:

I can report that a 1981 Toyota Tercel also works for learning to drive a manual. It made me who I am today.

Okay, so '81 Tercel is off the list, then!

Michaell

explorerx4 said:

Air cooled VW Bug's were great for teaching someone to drive a manual trans.

Mine was a ‘66, with a Baja kit attached.

breld

Well I wouldn't be giving him the M2 as his first car or anything...just a tool to learn on! He actually did quite well his first time out in my 228i. Probably makes a difference that he had a desire to learn - something the other kids lacked.

Truth is, he'd love an old Civic, but his mom (my ex) seems to think he has to have an AWD SUV. I've made my case for FWD and winter tires being superior, but it's a battle I don't care to continue.

roadburner

qbrozen said:

Meh. It is overrated. Seems great in your head and then you live with it for a short while and think “why did I want this?”

The Club Sport and the Wrangler are manuals; they remind me why I love having three pedals in at least a couple of my cars.

xwesx

breld said:

Well I wouldn't be giving him the M2 as his first car or anything...just a tool to learn on! He actually did quite well his first time out in my 228i. Probably makes a difference that he had a desire to learn - something the other kids lacked.

Truth is, he'd love an old Civic, but his mom (my ex) seems to think he has to have an AWD SUV. I've made my case for FWD and winter tires being superior, but it's a battle I don't care to continue.

Well, it's the kid's car, so maybe if he buys it, then his mom (and his dad) don't have so much of a say!

qbrozen

roadburner said:

qbrozen said:

Meh. It is overrated. Seems great in your head and then you live with it for a short while and think “why did I want this?”

The Club Sport and the Wrangler are manuals; they remind me why I love having three pedals in at least a couple of my cars.

Better in slower cars, IMHO. Some cars I would not have as automatics. Nothing in my current stable qualifies.

stickguy

true about that. A hellcat type car, the AT might be better experience. But a Miata, Si or a BRZ, definitely needs to be a manual.

steine13

Speaking of kids & cars & manuals, my daughter just special-ordered a red-red Crosstrek premium 6MT. True to form, when the salesman filled out the order, he checked CVT for the transmission...Mademoiselle straightened him out.

It's getting tight for those who want to buy a manual. Call me a troglodyte but I don't want any of the 'driver aids' where it's not clear who's in charge of the car. I've been fine without forward collision warning for 40 years, and I don't want it.

I think the Impreza looks much better than the Crosstrek and it's a bargain in the base model to boot. And no electronic busybodies beyond stability control. My last Subaru -- 2014 Outback 6MT -- was no love affair and I ditched it, but what else am I going to buy? I'd love to wait another year and enjoy my 2012 Fusion.. I can't find any definitive information when the Impreza model change will be. Anybody have their ear to the ground?

With luck, my next new car will be fully self-driving. THAT I'm interested in. I'll get the smallest engine, too, cuz it won't be my problem

xwesx

New Impreza should be 2022 model year, so this summer, but I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed that back a year due to the pandemic this year. Crosstrek would follow with 2023 MY.

roadburner

@qbrozen : My son is looking at this 2017 330e. I'm guessing shoot for $21k?

Thanks!

stickguy

nice color combo on that one.

28firefighter

Great spec, too.

qbrozen

roadburner said:

@qbrozen : My son is looking at this 2017 330e. I'm guessing shoot for $21k?

Thanks!

Very low 18s at auction, so, yes, $21k.

roadburner

qbrozen said:

roadburner said:

@qbrozen : My son is looking at this 2017 330e. I'm guessing shoot for $21k?

Thanks!

Very low 18s at auction, so, yes, $21k.

Thanks!

roadburner

28firefighter said:

Great spec, too.

I agree. Being a Sport Line it’s perfect for him, and he gets the CWP and H-K. It has a full service history from my dealer and they just put new Pirellis on it. It will need an oil and brake fluid change in the fall and I told him to get the coolant changed while he’s at it; if it’s performed at my dealer it should run about $350 at most.

imidazol97

What's the realistic sale value for my 2008 Cobalt 2LT2? 168000 miles. Fog lights.
Spoiler on trunk. Well kept engine and transmission. Tires at 6/32 Michelins. Black. A couple of rough spots on paint due to chipping on flex bumper that was repainted by me. Brakes need some work on front.

I have 30 days of insurance coverage to move it.

stickguy

anything that runs and drives these days, and isn't rusted out, must be worth at least $2,000. That used to be the $1,000 run and drive minimum, but prices have gone up! Front brakes are cheap and DIY for many people. I bet if it goes on FB Marketplace with some good pictures, it will get snapped up. Or sell it to the guy that already asked you for it.

explorerx4

Tax refund and incentive check time coming up for a lot of people.

qbrozen

imidazol97 said:

What's the realistic sale value for my 2008 Cobalt 2LT2? 168000 miles. Fog lights.
Spoiler on trunk. Well kept engine and transmission. Tires at 6/32 Michelins. Black. A couple of rough spots on paint due to chipping on flex bumper that was repainted by me. Brakes need some work on front.

I have 30 days of insurance coverage to move it.

Does 2LT2 mean 2-door? I only see LTs listed. They probably don’t bother to differentiate. As a trade, they might show you $500-$750 good will.

explorerx4

@imidazol97,
There is a Carmax in Dayton. At least get a quote from them.

sda

I suspect less than $1k from Car Max or any dealer.

stickguy

that is not a dealer or carmax car. Throw it on FB marketplace at a reasonable price like $2,000 and it will go quick. From what I have heard, the low price market right now is barren and people are desperate for cheap, relatively reliable transportation.

explorerx4

imid is looking for a baseline for his car which is why I suggested Carmax.
It's probably going to be way below what he could get, but it least will have been looked at and an offer made.

imidazol97

Cobalt is a $2000 car that went for $1800.

stickguy

cash in your pocket? Fair deal all around, and out of your hair.

imidazol97

Cash. $100s.
To a guy who'll use the parts I had bought but hadn't gotten on for the brake repairs. Wanted car for his daughter to drive back and forth to college. He does car repairs and appreciated the quality parts I'd already
bought but didn't get motivated enough to put on last summer: calipers, rotor, pads.

He saw the car in my driveway after I got back from getting wheels balanced. Had wheels rebalanced
and rotated Monday and the tech messed up the balancing. So had to get it redone. Now they are
smooth like good Michelins.

I didn't have to work with craig's list callers or dangerous visitors. I'm really relieved.

explorerx4

@imidazol97,
Nice, you got some cash for the car and don't have to worry about it anymore. Thumbs up!

tjc78

Congrats on the sale.

steine13

Congratulations, good job. Plus you sold to someone who knew what he was doing, always a plus.

It's a scary market when a 168k Chvey Cobalt -- A Cobalt, forsooth! -- fetches $1800 from the kind of person who can usually 'steal' a car.

If you need wheels and can afford a $20k Elantra or Impreza, think of it as a bargain and get one.

xwesx

imidazol97 said:

Cash. $100s.
To a guy who'll use the parts I had bought but hadn't gotten on for the brake repairs. Wanted car for his daughter to drive back and forth to college. He does car repairs and appreciated the quality parts I'd already
bought but didn't get motivated enough to put on last summer: calipers, rotor, pads.

He saw the car in my driveway after I got back from getting wheels balanced. Had wheels rebalanced
and rotated Monday and the tech messed up the balancing. So had to get it redone. Now they are
smooth like good Michelins.

I didn't have to work with craig's list callers or dangerous visitors. I'm really relieved.

Man, that's perfect! Congrats on the sale. Sounds like it is going to a good home, too.

andres3

I sold my 6V Audi R8 Spyder in fair condition at $50, and I sold my 225/50R17 Michelin PilotSport A/S 3+ with Enkei 17"x 7.5" lightweight wheels mounted and balanced together with 70% tread left for $420 (These were for the Alltrack). 5-112 bolt pattern, said he was putting them on a Veloster...... not my issue anyway.

Even with the great low pricing, this was my first real hand at trying the FB marketplace to sell goods. Lots of flakes and low ballers despite my low pricing. Just took a week for the wheels (be patient; right buyer will come along), and for the electric toy Audi, the Facebook San Diego Audi club came through more than FB Marketplace.

clm8

Trade in value for a 2015 Chevrolet Tahoe 4WD, LTZ fully loaded, DVD, adaptive cruise, etc. 92,000 miles, clean. White with tan leather interior. New tires, brakes, Indianapolis area. Carvana offered $31,500. Thank you.

qbrozen

clm8 said:

Trade in value for a 2015 Chevrolet Tahoe 4WD, LTZ fully loaded, DVD, adaptive cruise, etc. 92,000 miles, clean. White with tan leather interior. New tires, brakes, Indianapolis area. Carvana offered $31,500. Thank you.

About $1k over trade-in value, so it is appropriate for them.

clm8

Thank you for the quick response.

krwest1

Looking for trade value for 2020 BMW X3M Competition. Alpine White. 7000 miles. Driving Assistance Plus. Executive Package. Front ventilated seats. Located in South Carolina 29588. Thanks in advance.

qbrozen

krwest1 said:

Looking for trade value for 2020 BMW X3M Competition. Alpine White. 7000 miles. Driving Assistance Plus. Executive Package. Front ventilated seats. Located in South Carolina 29588. Thanks in advance.

Tough one. A similar vehicle went through Atlanta auction for $68,750, but there was a blue one in CA for $66k and a gray one in PA for $67k. Trade? Might be $65k is as comfortable as a dealer would be. Have you tried running it past Carvana/Vroom? I'd be curious where they hit it.

tj11119

Appreciate help trade pricing for a:
2019 BMW X2 sdrive28i
Automatic with 15,000 miles.
Gold exterior, beige interior.
Convenience pkg, Pano Moonroof, Premium wheels, located in socal 92154

Thanks in advance

qbrozen

tj11119 said:

Appreciate help trade pricing for a:
2019 BMW X2 sdrive28i
Automatic with 15,000 miles.
Gold exterior, beige interior.
Convenience pkg, Pano Moonroof, Premium wheels, located in socal 92154

Thanks in advance

Quite a variation on these. I suppose the level of equipment is making most of the difference. Yours is rather sparsely optioned, and I’d imagine gold won’t be very popular (I wasn’t aware that was even a color choice) so I’d have to take a shot at $25k-$26k.

krwest1

qbrozen said:

krwest1 said:

Looking for trade value for 2020 BMW X3M Competition. Alpine White. 7000 miles. Driving Assistance Plus. Executive Package. Front ventilated seats. Located in South Carolina 29588. Thanks in advance.

Tough one. A similar vehicle went through Atlanta auction for $68,750, but there was a blue one in CA for $66k and a gray one in PA for $67k. Trade? Might be $65k is as comfortable as a dealer would be. Have you tried running it past Carvana/Vroom? I'd be curious where they hit it.

Carvana has been "pending" for days. Vroom came in at $56k. KBB ICO says $65k and CafFax says $66k, but those aren't actual offers ... they say I have to take it to a local dealer for a real quote. I'll be doing that soon, so just wanted to know what I should really expect. Thanks!