Real-World Trade-In Values

beofgod

qbrozen said:

beofgod said:

qbrozen said:

beofgod said:

Hello, I need the trade in value for a





2015 Chevy Volt


Fully loaded


Exterior silver interior black leather


41000 miles





Thanks

What state are you in? And what is the condition of the car? Does it have any needs? Any past or present damage?

beofgod said:

Probably about $18.5k on the Subaru.

Thanks for the reponce!!

I'm in Maryland 20695, it's in excellent condition, and no past or present damage...

Somewhere in the $12k-$13k neighborhood. I think $13k should be doable but depends how they feel about it.

Thanks that's pretty much the range I have been getting from various dealership...I really need $15k but I guess that's a pipe dream at this point...

qbrozen

GTI - likely not much room there. I only have 1 comp on the west coast and that one reached a whopping $16.5k. In more sane parts of the country, I'm seeing prices ranging from $10.5k (in poor condition) up into the 13s (more average conditions).

28firefighter

I'm pretty sure that's not an Autobahn - no leather, Nav, demons etc. if that makes a difference pricewise. 

Mr_Shiftright

That's strange---here's another website selling an Autobahn, but with that same interior. I suspect they don't know what an Autobahn is supposed to have in it

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/2012-Volkswagen-GTI-Pictures-c23007_pi36124109

I can't say as it would make much of a difference...old NAVs aren't worth much of anything, and leather is more of a preference item than a "must have".

28firefighter

Yup - pretty common, especially because VW trims year-over-year can be a moving target.

I was merely pointing it out so that you don't pay a premium (by seller standards) for the Autobahn features when they aren't actually present. 

xwesx

nyccarguy said:

Let me know when you get into "Super Serious Mode" and I'll gladly take a ride up there on your behalf!

I talked with my wife more about the cars tonight, and she really likes this car, but waved off everything else (including the 52K example in Illinois). She couldn't see paying ~1,500 more for 15,000 miles and extra features she doesn't want. I didn't feel $1 per mile was that bad, honestly. Particularly since that one will most likely still be under powertrain warranty.

That said, the Naugatuck car is a serious contender now. So, if you want an excuse to wring out your Q40 a little next week.... you have it! My only request is that you turn off your "Q40 brain" when you check it out.

qbrozen

Autobahn does make quite a difference in value

qbrozen

xwesx said:

Let me know when you get into "Super Serious Mode" and I'll gladly take a ride up there on your behalf!

I talked with my wife more about the cars tonight, and she really likes this car, but waved off everything else (including the 52K example in Illinois). She couldn't see paying ~1,500 more for 15,000 miles and extra features she doesn't want. I didn't feel $1 per mile was that bad, honestly. Particularly since that one will most likely still be under powertrain warranty.

That said, the Naugatuck car is a serious contender now. So, if you want an excuse to wring out your Q40 a little next week.... you have it! My only request is that you turn off your "Q40 brain" when you check it out.

You mean 10 cents per mile. And I agree. I look at it in terms of years. If driving 15k/yr, is it worth $1500 to get 1 more year out of a car? I vote a big yes on that.

woodyww

Mr_Shiftright said:

qbrozen said:

Wait wait wait. You have an ultra low mile E39 wagon? Good god, man, put that thing on the bmw message boards and roundel and you'll have a feeding frenzy. I seriously think $7900 is not out of order for an asking price. With some of the craziness I have seen out there with low mileage E39s, it may even be low.

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I'm with Q on this. Throw the price guides out the window on this one. I would replace that mirror cover, touch up the bumper and put it on Bring A Trailer or as Q says, the BMW message boards---I'd ask $8500 and I'd hang tough, too. Why? Because if you price out a new BMW Series 3 Sport Wagon with some options you're going to bust into $50K territory. IIRC, there is no 5 series wagon anymore.

Thanks guys! $8500 sounds reasonable--I wouldn't feel like I'm "giving it away". I don't plan to sell tho unless I can find a good deal on a low-mileage 2nd gen. X3. Or maybe an E91 3-series wagon--I think those are scarce tho.

The missing mirror cover--I can get a new one, primered for about $40. The primer color is black at least, so even that would look better than the missing mirror cover. But really wouldn't look right; I'll figure out where to get it painted the black body color.

The crack in the air dam under the front bumper--the local foreign car repair place said they could somehow fix that, at least better than it is--but that's the place that knocked off the mirror cover while it was there overnight (& then lied about it of course).

Thanks again for the pricing advice.......

nyccarguy

Mr_Shiftright said:

Q--how much room is there on this one? 2012 VW GTI Autobahn trim, 54,000 miles, loaded up, good dealer, manual transmission, black on black. They are asking $12.9K in groovy Marin county, CA.

http://www.sanrafaelmitsubishi.com/mobile/details.cfm?type=Used&vin=WVWED7AJ2CW324174

57,000 miles - this is for you Shifty?

nyccarguy

@xwesx - HPN is tough to get flights in and out of and usually never cheap.  I suggested it simply because it is close to me.  LGA isn't too far from where I work.  

Mr_Shiftright

nyccarguy said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Q--how much room is there on this one? 2012 VW GTI Autobahn trim, 54,000 miles, loaded up, good dealer, manual transmission, black on black. They are asking $12.9K in groovy Marin county, CA.



http://www.sanrafaelmitsubishi.com/mobile/details.cfm?type=Used&vin=WVWED7AJ2CW324174

57,000 miles - this is for you Shifty?

I dunno...I like GTIs but as the guys pointed out, this is not in fact an Autobahn, and while personally to me, the Autobahn features are of no value (obsolete NAV and leather seats don't matter to me), Q has pointed out that the Autobahn trim line does affect value. So as 28firefighter pointed out, why pay for something that isn't there?

Also black is an iffy color for me...you know, if it were like a blue or green and a true Autobahn, I'd probably be down there looking at it right now.

What appeals to me on the GTI over the Mini is that the ride is so much more compliant and better engineered. The Minis beat you up if you have sport suspension. I think my Mini is faster, though.

xwesx

qbrozen said:

You mean 10 cents per mile. And I agree. I look at it in terms of years. If driving 15k/yr, is it worth $1500 to get 1 more year out of a car? I vote a big yes on that.

LOL Off by one (order of magnitude) error! Jeez.... $0.10/mile, that's not helping me with my being content with my wife's choice on this one.....

steine13

Hi guys!
It's been awhile, but here I am once more with another bottom feeder from the rust belt. A friend at work has this for sale and is looking for craigslist advice:

2005 Toyota Matrix XR
Silver, 180k, stick shift manual transmission 5speed with a real clutch yes one of those.

Not babied, not abused either, commuter car from Ann Arbor [spits on floor] to East Lansing for a number of years. Basic maintenance done.

Recent brakes, good tires, no accidents, nonsmoker, clean carfax.
No sunroof, steel wheels with covers, but cruise and usual power stuff.
Rust-free to look at, a few scratches, overall good shape.

For whatever reason, he took it in and spent $500 on a brake job and oil change... he'd like to get $2,500 for it, and who knows, during tax season and in this town, he might get it. I'd be a buyer at $1,800 maybe if I needed a car, but it's 12 years old and it's got a lot of miles. Highway miles and all that, but the way we use salt here, them's dog years..

So, cleaned up and with good pix, what does he ask in his ad, and what can he expect to get..?
Thanks in advance,
-Mathias

qbrozen

 For whatever reason, the automatics are pretty strong even with high miles. Sticks are getting far less, however, so maybe at best a $1500 auction car. So I think getting 2500 should be pretty easy. I would start asking 3495 and go from there.

steine13

Thanks, Q,
That was quick...

I think I know why the sticks get "far less" -- while the six-speed in the XR-S is stout, the pedestrian manual transmission in this car and the Corolla tends to fail at high-ish miles and is over $3,000 to fix. IOW the car turns to junk instantly. One reason this one is still good is probably a lot of highway driving. I heard about it on Click & Clack years ago, and a friend of mine had that happen while he was moving between jobs. Not fun.

Who'd'a thunk that Toyota of all people would mess up a stick shift.
Of course I don't know how prevalent this really is.

Anyway, thanks a bunch for the information. I'll pass it along.

cheers and happy easter -mathias

Mr_Shiftright

steine13 said:

Hi guys!
It's been awhile, but here I am once more with another bottom feeder from the rust belt. A friend at work has this for sale and is looking for craigslist advice:

2005 Toyota Matrix XR
Silver, 180k, stick shift manual transmission 5speed with a real clutch yes one of those.

Not babied, not abused either, commuter car from Ann Arbor [spits on floor] to East Lansing for a number of years. Basic maintenance done.

Recent brakes, good tires, no accidents, nonsmoker, clean carfax.
No sunroof, steel wheels with covers, but cruise and usual power stuff.
Rust-free to look at, a few scratches, overall good shape.

For whatever reason, he took it in and spent $500 on a brake job and oil change... he'd like to get $2,500 for it, and who knows, during tax season and in this town, he might get it. I'd be a buyer at $1,800 maybe if I needed a car, but it's 12 years old and it's got a lot of miles. Highway miles and all that, but the way we use salt here, them's dog years..

So, cleaned up and with good pix, what does he ask in his ad, and what can he expect to get..?
Thanks in advance,
-Mathias

He'll get his asking price no problem. He should ask $3500, take 3200. The Matrix was a pretty bullet-proof (if boring) car. Trade-in? Not very much.

tjc78

Hey Q.  Any ideas what they may have in this?  SIL is interested in it.  Many thanks 

http://www.autodirectcars.com/2010-Mazda-MAZDA5/BuyHerePayHere-Hatchback/BURLINGTON-NJ/8053550/Details.aspx

hairysoda1

I have a 2013 BMW135is convertible mineral grey with red leather interior
It has everything but navigation. The car has 47,000miles and no dents scratches or tears in leather,very nice and no accidents.i was thinking about trading it on a new BMW but I also think it could sell privately quickly. It looks and drives real nice.
I live in south Florida.
What would be a fair trade in number for me to think about and what could I sell it privately

kyfdx

hairysoda1 said:

I have a 2013 BMW135is convertible mineral grey with red leather interior
It has everything but navigation. The car has 47,000miles and no dents scratches or tears in leather,very nice and no accidents.i was thinking about trading it on a new BMW but I also think it could sell privately quickly. It looks and drives real nice.
I live in south Florida.
What would be a fair trade in number for me to think about and what could I sell it privately

Is it automatic or manual?

roadburner

I think an is has a DCT and not a conventional automatic.

qbrozen

tjc78 said:

Hey Q.  Any ideas what they may have in this?  SIL is interested in it.  Many thanks 

http://www.autodirectcars.com/2010-Mazda-MAZDA5/BuyHerePayHere-Hatchback/BURLINGTON-NJ/8053550/Details.aspx

Looks like they have been sitting on it for about 8 mos now, so I couldn't say what they have in it. Right now, its worth about $4750 at auction. They should cut it loose at $7k and take their lumps.

nyccarguy

hairysoda1 said:

I have a 2013 BMW135is convertible mineral grey with red leather interior
It has everything but navigation. The car has 47,000miles and no dents scratches or tears in leather,very nice and no accidents.i was thinking about trading it on a new BMW but I also think it could sell privately quickly. It looks and drives real nice.
I live in south Florida.
What would be a fair trade in number for me to think about and what could I sell it privately

Mineral Grey with Red Leather? Very pretty color combination!

tjc78

Thanks Q

Mr_Shiftright

Q--an options question:

On a 2006 Mercedes E500, clean 81,000 miles, sport package, RWD, San Francisco Bay Area----does the sport package really add any significant value?

I'm thinking $10K is all the money on this car, retail.

28firefighter

Paging Dr. @fintail

qbrozen

So Manheim does not differentiate a sport pack for this one. Assuming it is silver or black, its mid $5s at the block, so I think $10k is overly optimistic. $8k-$8500 should be it.

Mr_Shiftright

thanks Q!

fintail

Yep, 10K would have to be the best one in the region, a pristine very low mileage car with no needs. Not a lot of love for W211 out there, even though the later ones don't seem to bad to live with. IIRC, sport package was a no charge or inexpensive option that came virtually standard on many cars (today it is a no charge "option" and seen on the vast majority of E-class). IIRC those cars had standard airmatic, beware of maintenance.

Mr_Shiftright

So what value would you add to that for 4Matic?

qbrozen

Believe it or not, it is worth $500 LESS

Mr_Shiftright

You know, I've heard that before but never had cause to substantiate it---but now I know!

Makes sense in a way---break-y, break-y + lower MPG.

qbrozen

Thought maybe it was a Cali thing but it turns out to be the same in the NE.

Mr_Shiftright

For many years, the 4Matic system did not have a good reputation. Not sure about how it is now.

fintail

Depends on the market. Probably not useful in much of CA or the south. Around here, it is an obsession, even though the typical driver never ventures outside of the route between their tract house subdivision, office park workplace, and strip mall shopping area. Maybe 10-15%?

Mr_Shiftright

It's interesting that auction results don't record much of an uptick for 4Matic.

fintail

The early 90s era 4Matic had a very high, if not total, failure rate. I think the modern system is fine, but no doubt has additional maintenance.

pensfan83

Hi,

I'm interested to see what I may be looking at in terms of trade value for my current vehicle. I have 5 payments remaining on my current lease and I'm well under on mileage but would consider getting out earlier if it made financial sense and I have equity to use for upfront fees. Here are the details:

2014 Audi A4 Quattro, Premium Plus
Brilliant Black w/Black Interior
6 speed manual
Navigation
21,900 miles
Southwest PA

The car is in excellent condition. There's probably 2-3 small scratches (non larger than a thumbtack), it's always been garaged, and has a set of Continental tires with about 1,000 miles on them. One of the rims has a few scrapes along the edge. If additional details are needed please let me know and thank you in advance!

Mr_Shiftright

Q-- what do you think of this somewhat peculiar situation? I know the dealer--pretty established in San Francisco. Odd thing is that he has TWO like this!

Inquiry from community member:
https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/45276/audi/s4/car-never-registered-used-with-112-miles#latest

The actual ad itself:

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/ctd/6086789629.html


I told him to check the warranty situation and also that I didn't think the price was so hot.

qbrozen

pensfan83 said:

Hi,

I'm interested to see what I may be looking at in terms of trade value for my current vehicle. I have 5 payments remaining on my current lease and I'm well under on mileage but would consider getting out earlier if it made financial sense and I have equity to use for upfront fees. Here are the details:

2014 Audi A4 Quattro, Premium Plus
Brilliant Black w/Black Interior
6 speed manual
Navigation
21,900 miles
Southwest PA

The car is in excellent condition. There's probably 2-3 small scratches (non larger than a thumbtack), it's always been garaged, and has a set of Continental tires with about 1,000 miles on them. One of the rims has a few scrapes along the edge. If additional details are needed please let me know and thank you in advance!

$21k-$21.5k

qbrozen

Mr_Shiftright said:

Q-- what do you think of this somewhat peculiar situation? I know the dealer--pretty established in San Francisco. Odd thing is that he has TWO like this!



Inquiry from community member:

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/45276/audi/s4/car-never-registered-used-with-112-miles#latest



The actual ad itself:



https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/ctd/6086789629.html





I told him to check the warranty situation and also that I didn't think the price was so hot.

Right about $40k at auction. So I don't think the price is too bad, actually. Maybe another $1k to play with in there, but maybe not. That is not an Audi dealer, right? Very odd situation. I am also curious about the warranty. I'd also ask how it was obtained.

Mr_Shiftright

I think it is an Audi dealer---they own a lot of stores. Seems to me if it were never registered, then warranty would be from first date of service, right?

I'd like to know the WHOLE story, too.... especially since he has two of them...one black, one silver.

pensfan83

qbrozen said:

pensfan83 said:

Hi,



I'm interested to see what I may be looking at in terms of trade value for my current vehicle. I have 5 payments remaining on my current lease and I'm well under on mileage but would consider getting out earlier if it made financial sense and I have equity to use for upfront fees. Here are the details:



2014 Audi A4 Quattro, Premium Plus

Brilliant Black w/Black Interior

6 speed manual

Navigation

21,900 miles

Southwest PA



The car is in excellent condition. There's probably 2-3 small scratches (non larger than a thumbtack), it's always been garaged, and has a set of Continental tires with about 1,000 miles on them. One of the rims has a few scrapes along the edge. If additional details are needed please let me know and thank you in advance!

$21k-$21.5k

Thanks so much for the quick response. Residual is $21,720 so it looks like I'll be hanging onto it until the end of the lease, which I'm not opposed to.

explorerx4

@pensfan83,
Shouldn't you be pensfan87?

thebean

explorerx4 said:

@pensfan83,
Shouldn't you be pensfan87?

Maybe born in '83?  If so, I think I've got underwear older than him.  

pensfan83

thebean said:

explorerx4 said:

@pensfan83,

Shouldn't you be pensfan87?

Maybe born in '83?  If so, I think I've got underwear older than him.  
Ding Ding Ding

pensfan83

explorerx4 said:

@pensfan83,
Shouldn't you be pensfan87?

I use the same name on a few other forums and that was my first choice but it was actually taken so I chose my birth year instead and just stuck with it as I join new forums.

roadburner

Here's one in Louisville:
2009 Mini Cooper S Clubman
Metallic brown/Tuscan Beige heated leather
Automatic
Cold Weather Package
Comfort Access
Navigation/SXM/Bluetooth
Sunroof
just received oil service
104,000 miles

qbrozen

Only worth about $4k at the block

roadburner

Thanks!