Real-World Trade-In Values

dynamica

qbrozen said:

$11k neighborhood. If it wasn't black/black, I'd probably want it myself!

I think it still looks like an expensive car but I guess that's what they all say!

Would the value increase much if it was traded-in in Los Angeles? Perhaps San Antonio is too much of pickup truck heaven.

qbrozen

Good question.

The region difference is $500 in this case. Color still hurts. If it were white, it would be worth another $500 more.

A white one in the northeast is worth nearly $1500 more than black in southwest. Not all cars vary this much, but certainly a supercharged Jag does.

dynamica

qbrozen, Thanks. I see. White is much easier to keep clean. I guess that's the reason. Then magnify the cleaning issue for the NE where it is very hard to wash in the winter. Because if this was because of fading this car hasn't been much in the sun at all.

dynamica

2004 Ford F-150 FX4 SuperCrew, Silver, Black Leather, 40,000 miles, 2 owners, clean*

*I know this will hurt but it has a 2" lift, Rancho suspension (solid, no clanking) and 20" Nitto Grappler tires with Moto Metal black wheels. Maybe this makes it impossible to estimate or perhaps trade-in.

Thanks

qbrozen

dynamica said:

2004 Ford F-150 FX4 SuperCrew, Silver, Black Leather, 40,000 miles, 2 owners, clean*

*I know this will hurt but it has a 2" lift, Rancho suspension (solid, no clanking) and 20" Nitto Grappler tires with Moto Metal black wheels. Maybe this makes it impossible to estimate or perhaps trade-in.

Thanks

I'm not sure. You are in TX, after all, so I would think those are pluses in that area. I can only really give you a stock number on the trade. I think you'll probably face different attitudes from different dealers regarding the mods.

The FX4 was 5.4 v8 4wd only, right? If so, a clean stock one would be $7500-$8k. I think you should advertise this one yourself for $12k and maybe cut it loose at $10k if it sits for too long.

himanshus

What would be the true value for 2005 MDX Touring Edition (With Navigation) and 72,000 miles and in very good condition.
I can get an offer as high as $10,000 but was expecting in the range of 12-13k.

qbrozen

What state are you in? What color combination? How much life in the tires? How about the brakes? Any current or former damage?

himanshus

From IL. Tires are Michelin installed from Costco 1.5 years ago but driven less than 8000 miles on it.
Break pads we're replaced just few months ago. No damage.

himanshus

Sage Brush Pearl is the color.

dynamica

qbrozen said:

The FX4 was 5.4 v8 4wd only, right? If so, a clean stock one would be $7500-$8k. I think you should advertise this one yourself for $12k and maybe cut it loose at $10k if it sits for too long.

Yes, 5.4L. I really appreciate your help.

tifighter

Anyone want to make a guess on this one-

http://www.larsonautomotivegroup.com/auto/used-2001-porsche-911-carrc-fife-98424-wa/19064610/

I looked and drove this car and it did not disappoint.  It really is immaculate. Good service history and they replaced the RMS. The IMS is still out there to be done (why they didn't do this with the RMS I dont know). Display for hvac is failing but works; they've already ordered a replacement. I'm curious what the group thinks they're in it for. Given the condition and miles, it would be hard to compare to most 996s.

qbrozen

tifighter said:

Anyone want to make a guess on this one-

http://www.larsonautomotivegroup.com/auto/used-2001-porsche-911-carrc-fife-98424-wa/19064610/

I looked and drove this car and it did not disappoint.  It really is immaculate. Good service history and they replaced the RMS. The IMS is still out there to be done (why they didn't do this with the RMS I dont know). Display for hvac is failing but works; they've already ordered a replacement. I'm curious what the group thinks they're in it for. Given the condition and miles, it would be hard to compare to most 996s.

At least its a stick. But AWD? Booo.

anyway, here are the 2 closest comps at auction:

$22,000*

16,249

4.3

7/5/16

6G/6

Red

Lease

Southeast

Statesville

$18,000*

28,155

2.0

5/3/17

6G/6

Red

Regular

West Coast

California

so that is a 2.0 on condition for the $18k one and a 4.3 on the pricier one, which also had ULTRA low miles.

I can't imagine they have more than $20k in it.

chuckster12

Considering 2014 Acura MDX SH-AWD in Denver, ~35k miles.
Interested in what dealer might have invested including add on for certified. Undecided on packages.
This replaces my wife's 2016 CRV totaled by a hit and run driver (hit from the rear and driver was able to flee on foot). She walked away with a concussion and a stiff neck.
Thanks,
Chuck

qbrozen

If a base model, dealer has maybe $26k-$27k in it. I have zero idea what Acura CPO costs. $30k should be a good deal. 

tifighter

qbrozen said:

I can't imagine they have more than $20k in it.

Thanks Q. I wasn't seeking out the AWD, it was just there. I don't love the wheels on it either...

chuckster12

qbrozen said:

If a base model, dealer has maybe $26k-$27k in it. I have zero idea what Acura CPO costs. $30k should be a good deal. 

Thank you!

28firefighter

I like that car @tifighter

I think the only thing to be worried about would be immediately getting the IMS bearing upgraded. 

tifighter

28firefighter said:

I like that car @tifighter

I think the only thing to be worried about would be immediately getting the IMS bearing upgraded. 

Yeah. The rough cost to do the IMS is around $3k, plus or minus a few hundred depending on who you call. So there's some ouch there.

28firefighter

Agreed - but it's a mostly one and done for a good while unless you're heavily putting miles on it. And from what I understand, those cars are largely bulletproof IMS bearing aside. 

explorerx4

You could use the not replaced IMS as a negotiation item.
They may say it's baked into the price.
Up to you from there.

Mr_Shiftright

tifighter said:

Anyone want to make a guess on this one-

http://www.larsonautomotivegroup.com/auto/used-2001-porsche-911-carrc-fife-98424-wa/19064610/

I looked and drove this car and it did not disappoint.  It really is immaculate. Good service history and they replaced the RMS. The IMS is still out there to be done (why they didn't do this with the RMS I dont know). Display for hvac is failing but works; they've already ordered a replacement. I'm curious what the group thinks they're in it for. Given the condition and miles, it would be hard to compare to most 996s.

This is one of those very rare cases where low mileage is a disadvantage, since most of the IMS failures occur at lower mileages. Also AWD is another rare case of a disadvantage.

Did you really want a cabriolet?

tifighter

Yeah, that's why the IMS replacement is so crucial. I'm looking for a fun convertible for nice days, so yes on the Cab, even though I know the Coupe is the preferred choice to most. I'm not dead set on a 996 at all, but I've paid attention to their listings and this one was relatively close to check out.

Mr_Shiftright

I think everyone's preferences are different. It would be interesting for you to drive a 2WD as well, to note the difference, and also to drive the cabriolet with the top up on the highway to consider the noise level on that model.

The asking price is about what I've seen more or less for an AWD 996 Cab. You could always sell the hardtop--few people end up using them and they take up space.

breld

A co-worker of mine is looking at this FX35 (in CO):

https://cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/707462975/overview/

Thoughts on the broker's pricing?

Thanks!

qbrozen

typical asking price of $4k over auction value. Should be able to knock $1500 off.

breld

Thanks!

tifighter

Mr_Shiftright said:

I think everyone's preferences are different. It would be interesting for you to drive a 2WD as well, to note the difference, and also to drive the cabriolet with the top up on the highway to consider the noise level on that model.

The asking price is about what I've seen more or less for an AWD 996 Cab. You could always sell the hardtop--few people end up using them and they take up space.

I've driven a C2 and C4 already; they feel the same on the average test drive of course. I'm sure a track day would be different. Reading the interwebs, the stories are half "great car that only needs oil changes that I've put 120000 miles on it" and half "every electrical switch has needed to be replaced, there's a new leak every week, etc." And we aren't talking about the mandatory RMS/IMS conversation yet. Or the mystery bore-scoring thing...

carperso

2014 audi A6 3.0T premium plus quattro
White on black
49k miles
Bose, 19inch wheels, sport package, side assist,
New england area
Accident reported on carfax

Lease return being listed by a local dealer.

qbrozen

Any idea as to the extent of the damage?

Without knowing much more than provided and assuming the car was repaired properly, I'm going to have to throw out $19k as an initial auction number and $22k retail. It would be more like $26k-$27k if it weren't for the carfax ding.

Mr_Shiftright

tifighter said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

I think everyone's preferences are different. It would be interesting for you to drive a 2WD as well, to note the difference, and also to drive the cabriolet with the top up on the highway to consider the noise level on that model.

The asking price is about what I've seen more or less for an AWD 996 Cab. You could always sell the hardtop--few people end up using them and they take up space.

I've driven a C2 and C4 already; they feel the same on the average test drive of course. I'm sure a track day would be different. Reading the interwebs, the stories are half "great car that only needs oil changes that I've put 120000 miles on it" and half "every electrical switch has needed to be replaced, there's a new leak every week, etc." And we aren't talking about the mandatory RMS/IMS conversation yet. Or the mystery bore-scoring thing...

The 996 is what I call a "brave purchase"--it's not reckless but it's no slam-dunk. I'm kind of conflicted over the 996. The interior on the early ones is really cheaped out, and that's annoying. Then there's that thundercloud hanging over your head, with the IMS bearing issue. The only way to get any peace of mind is either to change the oil every 3,000 miles (and cut open the oil filter), or eat the $4000 repair to rectify it. Otherwise, if the engine gives out, the car is totaled. It's parts.

I like the looks, very nice performance, very good build quality if you discount the interior. 997 is it's better.

qbrozen

I know we have chatted about these a number of times because they are always on my list, but I always chicken out. Too many less risky options out there.

kyfdx

If I wanted a convertible, I'd get a Boxster

tifighter

kyfdx said:

If I wanted a convertible, I'd get a Boxster

You think 996 horror stories are bad...

olliesam3

Hi - not sure if I am in the right place, but I am looking to see if I can find what my car's worth would be to a dealer. I have a 2014 4x4 Black Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited with 29K miles (Sunroof & Nav options). It's the last month of a lease and I am probably going to buy it out and then try and trade in for a new lease.

The only issue with it is a small dent/scratch on the driver side door a little bit bigger than the size of a credit card. A body shop quoted me about $800 to fix it. Other than that it is in great shape. Any idea what you think I could get for the car? My payoff on the lease is $21.5k. Thanks!

Also, I am located in New York if that makes a difference.

Mr_Shiftright

kyfdx said:

If I wanted a convertible, I'd get a Boxster

Frying pan, meet fire.

qbrozen

olliesam3 said:

Hi - not sure if I am in the right place, but I am looking to see if I can find what my car's worth would be to a dealer. I have a 2014 4x4 Black Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited with 29K miles (Sunroof & Nav options). It's the last month of a lease and I am probably going to buy it out and then try and trade in for a new lease.

The only issue with it is a small dent/scratch on the driver side door a little bit bigger than the size of a credit card. A body shop quoted me about $800 to fix it. Other than that it is in great shape. Any idea what you think I could get for the car? My payoff on the lease is $21.5k. Thanks!

Also, I am located in New York if that makes a difference.

How much life left in the tires? What about the brakes? And which engine does it have?

olliesam3

It has the V6 Flex Engine. I'm not really sure how much life is left on the brakes and tires, but the treads seem to have plenty left on them and the car still stops on a dime (for a jeep at least).

kyfdx

Mr_Shiftright said:

kyfdx said:

If I wanted a convertible, I'd get a Boxster

Frying pan, meet fire.

Not because it's more or less reliable than the 911. It's just a better designed convertible. And, much cheaper to take a chance on.

carperso

qbrozen said:

Any idea as to the extent of the damage?

Without knowing much more than provided and assuming the car was repaired properly, I'm going to have to throw out $19k as an initial auction number and $22k retail. It would be more like $26k-$27k if it weren't for the carfax ding.

Its listed by a non audi dealer for 27k.

Mr_Shiftright

kyfdx said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

kyfdx said:

If I wanted a convertible, I'd get a Boxster

Frying pan, meet fire.

Not because it's more or less reliable than the 911. It's just a better designed convertible. And, much cheaper to take a chance on.

True, but no cheaper to repair. It's a nice design but there are compromises. Larger or taller people need not apply, and there's not much in the way of passenger compartment storage. 2003 on up has a glass rear window, that's a plus.

tifighter

I'm 6'2" and find a Z4 or TT okay. Boxster is marginal. NA and NB Miata is a no go, but the NC sorta works. S2000 isn't pretty. Haven't tried the SLK.

Mr_Shiftright

I can drive an automatic Boxster but not a manual unless I splay my legs out. Not fun.

stickguy

That's how I drove my Miata. Was not comfortable.

Mr_Shiftright

Every car is a compromise somewhere.

corvette

corvette said:

qbrozen said:

$1k trade would be a gift. Ask $3500 and take $2500 or better

Thanks, I have relayed that to my parents! Guess they should have dropped comprehensive and collision some time ago. I'd probably pay $2,500 for it, but don't need something like that in my fleet.

Thanks for the help, they sold it for $3,000 cash.

qbrozen

perfect.

butchbr73

alrighty... gonna have a son that will start driving soon so we are going to pass on my truck to him to drive, which leads me needing a new truck here in the next 6-9 months and starting to think and look now. Leaning towards the old boring F150 or Sierra/Silvarado...

Trying to get my bearings on the market, what would a 2015'ish F150 Platinum 4x4 go for at auction... let's say fully loaded with tech package, etc.. 20-30k miles on it. Trying to get a feel for auction value vs asking price, etc.. seeing them listed right now it the low to mid $40's... I'm located in East Tennessee, but I'm not afraid to drive anywhere in the Southeast to pick up the right car at the right price.

As always your help is appreciated. Been following this board and lurk frequently over the past 10+ years (I remember Bill and Terry...), may have some more questions in the coming months as I narrow down the search on specific vehicles.

qbrozen

which engine, what type of cab, and how long of a bed?

butchbr73

3.5eco or v8, don't have a strong opinion on searching for one over the other right yet... supercrew 5.5ft...
most I see are the eco and 5.5 sorry.

stickguy

For mid 40s on a 2015, probably not that much more to go brand new with the crazy discounts these trucks seem to run. Especially on a 2017 now.