Real-World Trade-In Values

butchbr73

stick, totally agree on the 17's, I think they can be had for mid to upper $50s (platinum level one). I'm curious to see how much value these really have at auction. My gut tells me these may be mid $30's at auction, so with the "asking" around the mid $40's, they have some room to play. Be interesting to watch how hard Ford pushes the incentives on the '17 in the next few months.

qbrozen

Actually, $40k-$41k at auction. Ecos are about $1k more than v8s.

FYI, you can get a 2.7 or 5.0 Lariat for about $4k less than the v8 platinum. I have no idea what the packages offer. I do know that pretty much all my XLT is lacking is leather.

butchbr73

interesting... $40'ish. Do you like the f150? I've heard good reviews about the 2.7, I need to take a look and see what the difference is between the models.
As always, appreciate the guidance and its always a fun process. Love what you guys do here and talking cars!

explorerx4

Some of those top end F150 models have 22 inch wheels. Make sure there are new tires if you are looking at one of those.
There were some listed locally, but I just went back to look and then and they are not listed anymore.

qbrozen

butchbr73 said:

interesting... $40'ish. Do you like the f150? I've heard good reviews about the 2.7, I need to take a look and see what the difference is between the models.
As always, appreciate the guidance and its always a fun process. Love what you guys do here and talking cars!

Yes, I love it. Rides great for a truck, handles great for a truck, it is damned fast for a truck. From everything I have seen and read, the 2.7 is the one to have IF you don't need to tow something massive. For some reason, the 2.7 has lower tow capacity than the others, although testing has proved it equally powerful.

I went in looking for a supercrew XL 2.7 4x4, but discovered I really needed the power seat to be comfortable, so that pushed me into an XLT. Mine came with navigation, heated power seats, tow package, tow assist, and probably other stuff I'm forgetting. I have no idea what was standard and what was optional on the XLT model. Certainly the navigation was because the one I test drove didn't have it. Oh, and I think my power rear sliding window was optional. That is kind of nice to have. MSRP was $48,400 and the discounts knocked it down to $42k.

Mr_Shiftright

Did you see that YouTube video where all the technicians and service writers at a large Ford dealership were asked which engine they would order for their new F150 if they were buying one? The "winner" was the 5.0 and their reasons varied between "reliability" and "easy to work on".

qbrozen

I did not. I wonder what reliability issues they have seen with the other engines, if any. I wonder if it is just their comfort level with turbo engines speaking.

Mr_Shiftright

Perhaps. It was, after all, just those people at one dealership.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nUCx5IQZro

qbrozen

Thanks for posting. Their reasons were kind of telling. Couple said something like "I don't want to deal with the extra plumbing." A couple mentioned towing. And a few, IMHO, said basically "V8! Cause 'Merica!" haha. Am I stereotyping because of the southern accents? Yeah, maybe.

28firefighter

I believe you meant "'murrica!"

pensfan83

Now I want to watch the video but I'm at work haha.

Mr_Shiftright

qbrozen said:

Thanks for posting. Their reasons were kind of telling. Couple said something like "I don't want to deal with the extra plumbing." A couple mentioned towing. And a few, IMHO, said basically "V8! Cause 'Merica!" haha. Am I stereotyping because of the southern accents? Yeah, maybe.

Well you know what they say: "Perception IS reality".

stickguy

hey, you people do it here. All the angst if someone mentions looking at a V6 or Ecoboost Mustang instead of a V8 GT. Has nothing to do with practical reasons, just "you gotta get a V8 in a Mustang!!!

butchbr73

its the pure sound of the v8's, especially the Mustang. IMO, one of the best sounding cars on the road.

Q.. thanks for the insight, I definitely need to look hard and compare the XLT, Lariat to the Platinum... may have everything I want for thousands less. I'm a fan of the ecoboost engine, wife has the 3.5Eco in her Explorer and very impressed with how easy it drives.. although her gas mileage has suffered a little (too much fun to drive slow). I will take a hard look at the 2.7 in the f150.

roadburner

stickguy said:

hey, you people do it here. All the angst if someone mentions looking at a V6 or Ecoboost Mustang instead of a V8 GT. Has nothing to do with practical reasons, just "you gotta get a V8 in a Mustang!!!

The only angst would be felt by the poor unfortunate who bought a ponycar sans a V8. Kind of like when you could get either a 4 or a 6 in a TJ; I never heard anyone say, "I sure wish I had bought a four instead of the six." On the other hand...

qbrozen

stickguy said:

hey, you people do it here. All the angst if someone mentions looking at a V6 or Ecoboost Mustang instead of a V8 GT. Has nothing to do with practical reasons, just "you gotta get a V8 in a Mustang!!!

But there is a performance difference in that case. With the F150, it is pretty much nonexistant. 

tifighter

Good video post, Shifty. Pretty interesting.

butchbr73

wait till Tesla comes out with the ole electric pickup w/ no "engine sound", be curious how the public responds to that one.

Mr_Shiftright

I don't think organizations like UPS or utility companies would care about that.

stickguy

I always thought the post office was perfect for an alternate fuel fleet.

tjc78

Someone has a Tesla at work.  We walked passed it yesterday afternoon and it sounded like a cooling fan or something was running.    No one was in the car.   I guess they cool themselves off after being parked? 

kyfdx

tjc78 said:

Someone has a Tesla at work.  We walked passed it yesterday afternoon and it sounded like a cooling fan or something was running.    No one was in the car.   I guess they cool themselves off after being parked? 

A lot of cars run an engine cooling fan while parked.

I'll guess that might have been a ventilation fan to keep the interior cool?

tjc78

I'm gonna have to ask the owner.  I know him through email exchanges at least ... 

tifighter

Fan runs when the battery is warm too. Especially when charging.

Mr_Shiftright

Not sure they'd gear up for right hand drive. I don't think they are built for that conversion--but actually not sure.

tbirdmarco

@Mr_Shiftright yes did see that on yootob while back! thanks for posting! like everything take with an big grane of salte! just my two sence!

corvette

What would be a fair buying price on this one? It's been on the dealer's lot a while.  2011 Mustang GT Premium, auto, clean Carfax, 29k Miles:
http://www.bypassmotors.com/mobile/VehicleDetail.aspx?InventoryId=9281083&Guid=c140008f-6c32-428f-8715-1df553476fbd

Also, what would be a fair trade-in on my 2012 Murano SL AWD with navigation? White, clean condition, 68k miles, clean Carfax. I'd also be interested in a fair private party sale number on it. 

Both in Louisville, KY area. 

qbrozen

corvette said:

What would be a fair buying price on this one? It's been on the dealer's lot a while.  2011 Mustang GT Premium, auto, clean Carfax, 29k Miles:
http://www.bypassmotors.com/mobile/VehicleDetail.aspx?InventoryId=9281083&Guid=c140008f-6c32-428f-8715-1df553476fbd

Also, what would be a fair trade-in on my 2012 Murano SL AWD with navigation? White, clean condition, 68k miles, clean Carfax. I'd also be interested in a fair private party sale number on it. 

Both in Louisville, KY area. 

Well, it doesn't add up, but auction value is supposedly $20k due to the low miles. Automatic could be holding it back.

Murano is $11.5-$12k trade. So figure $14,995 asking and $13.5k-$14k taking.

corvette

Thanks for the info. The Murano value is about what my dad's 2011 Element is worth, and the Murano has far fewer miles and is a much better driving vehicle, period. But doesn't have a cult following like the E. 

qbrozen

Is that a CVT year for the Murano? Their fragility has hurt their value drastically.

corvette

Yes, I think all Muranos from the beginning have been CVT. 

tifighter

How about an 11 Mustang GT vert, ruby red, premium with the 6AT? 40k miles.

qbrozen

about $17.5k trade. $21k'ish retail.

corvette

Wait, what? The coupes are more expensive than the convertibles?

tifighter

Thanks Q.

breld

Hey Q -

Since I'm getting the Type R after all, the GTI is on the chopping block.

I'll probably take it to Carmax to get a gauge on the value for starters, but curious what the auction values (if any) are on such a new vehicle:

In CO:

2017 GTI 4-door Sport
White
Manual trannie
3,500 miles or so

Thanks!

corvette

breld has the right strategy. Trade it in before the first oil change! 

breld

Certainly not the first time I've done that!

qbrozen

corvette said:

Wait, what? The coupes are more expensive than the convertibles?

Actually, they would be worth the same if they were comparable. In this case, the coupe wina because it has 11k fewer miles.

qbrozen

breld said:

Hey Q - Since I'm getting the Type R after all, the GTI is on the chopping block. I'll probably take it to Carmax to get a gauge on the value for starters, but curious what the auction values (if any) are on such a new vehicle: In CO: 2017 GTI 4-door Sport White Manual trannie 3,500 miles or so Thanks!

Auction values are in the mid 21s

breld

Thanks Q - that's actually encouraging. And that makes sense that I got trade numbers previously ranging from $20-$22k.

So private party of $22k or so seems reasonable? Where do Carmax numbers usually fall in comparison to auction? I always forget.

corvette

Since a lot of people don't post follow-ups:

The Mustang checked out other than needing new tires, which I already knew about. Dealer initially came in with a trade price about $50 higher than the max I was willing to pay. I asked for an additional $1,000 off and was told no, but they did knock off a few hundred, which was enough to put it into my range.

Trade value on the 2012 Murano listed on the purchase order was $12,538, so qb hit this one pretty close.

Sale price on the 2011 Mustang GT Premium was $19,489, including approx. $390 in sales tax, so $19,099. I can't give an exact number on the sales tax since they included it in the sale price, which is an incorrect way of using the form, but the important thing is that they made my number.

3.69% financing for 48 months, but also a $199 "prepaid finance charge," which makes the effective interest rate more like 5%. Not thrilled with that, but even with the $199 in fees, I'm still happy with the deal.

qbrozen, thanks for all you do here!

explorerx4

Corvette,
Congrats on your Purchase.
Welcome to the Mustang owners club!

qbrozen

corvette said:

Since a lot of people don't post follow-ups:

The Mustang checked out other than needing new tires, which I already knew about. Dealer initially came in with a trade price about $50 higher than the max I was willing to pay. I asked for an additional $1,000 off and was told no, but they did knock off a few hundred, which was enough to put it into my range.

Trade value on the 2012 Murano listed on the purchase order was $12,538, so qb hit this one pretty close.

Sale price on the 2011 Mustang GT Premium was $19,489, including approx. $390 in sales tax, so $19,099. I can't give an exact number on the sales tax since they included it in the sale price, which is an incorrect way of using the form, but the important thing is that they made my number.

3.69% financing for 48 months, but also a $199 "prepaid finance charge," which makes the effective interest rate more like 5%. Not thrilled with that, but even with the $199 in fees, I'm still happy with the deal.

qbrozen, thanks for all you do here!

I think you did really well. They made up some money on the financing end, but all in all, figure they got MAYBE $500 or so over auction value. Guess maybe they'll keep your Murano for their lot and hope to make it up there.

qbrozen

breld said:

Thanks Q - that's actually encouraging. And that makes sense that I got trade numbers previously ranging from $20-$22k.

So private party of $22k or so seems reasonable? Where do Carmax numbers usually fall in comparison to auction? I always forget.

Never know with Carmax. Sometimes they pay auction value, sometimes not.

Private party would be stronger than that. $24k-24.5k asking and $23k taking is more like it.

corvette

qbrozen said:

I think you did really well. They made up some money on the financing end, but all in all, figure they got MAYBE $500 or so over auction value. Guess maybe they'll keep your Murano for their lot and hope to make it up there.

Supposedly, they did not buy the Mustang at auction--either a trade or an outright sale from a private party to them. So that might be why the numbers worked so well. I'm impressed--the interior on the Mustang looks almost like new, although the outside needs a clay bar, some swirl remover, and a little touch-up paint. Overall, it looks great for 6+ years old.

pikaru

Looking for trade-in value on a 2014 Audi A6 3.0T Prestige w/ 44500 on the odometer. Standard options, no extras. Thanks!

Michaell

pikaru said:

Looking for trade-in value on a 2014 Audi A6 3.0T Prestige w/ 44500 on the odometer. Standard options, no extras. Thanks!

Location?

Color - inside and out?

Condition?

pikaru

Michaell said:

pikaru said:

Looking for trade-in value on a 2014 Audi A6 3.0T Prestige w/ 44500 on the odometer. Standard options, no extras. Thanks!

Location?

Color - inside and out?

Condition?

Las Vegas, NV

Ext - Phantom Black Pearl Effect
Int - Black

I'd say average to good condition. No damage or real huge wear on inside, however outside has door dings, tires need to be replaced, minor curb rash, and some bumper scraping where paint came off.

breld

qbrozen said:

breld said:

Hey Q -

Since I'm getting the Type R after all, the GTI is on the chopping block.

I'll probably take it to Carmax to get a gauge on the value for starters, but curious what the auction values (if any) are on such a new vehicle:

In CO:

2017 GTI 4-door Sport
White
Manual trannie
3,500 miles or so

Thanks!

Auction values are in the mid 21s

Just got back from Carmax, and for the first time I was very pleased with the quote. They offered $22,000 for the GTI.