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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    So, assuming what you said for the silver '15 Golf SE with the lighting package at between $11K to $12K, gotta figure my blue over beige '15 SE with just under 34K on the clock should be closer to $10.5K at this point. That '14 brown over brown Eos was gone when I went to test drive it last week so never even gave them a chance to look at my vehicle. But, at this point, it's worth more to me to just keep it and drive it for another few years. Been very reliable except that first hiccup in year 1, and still fun to drive. Just that it'll be out of warranty in about 50 days or so and then, all bets are off on how well it'll behave. Hoping things go well though as don't really see anything out there I like as much.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,227

    So, assuming what you said for the silver '15 Golf SE with the lighting package at between $11K to $12K, gotta figure my blue over beige '15 SE with just under 34K on the clock should be closer to $10.5K at this point. That '14 brown over brown Eos was gone when I went to test drive it last week so never even gave them a chance to look at my vehicle. But, at this point, it's worth more to me to just keep it and drive it for another few years. Been very reliable except that first hiccup in year 1, and still fun to drive. Just that it'll be out of warranty in about 50 days or so and then, all bets are off on how well it'll behave. Hoping things go well though as don't really see anything out there I like as much.

    The Sandman :)B)

    Do you think your car has a calendar, and knows that 51 days from now, some major malfunction should occur?

    If it's been reliable for a majority of the past 36 months, why would you expect that to change in month 37?

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    Michaell said:

    So, assuming what you said for the silver '15 Golf SE with the lighting package at between $11K to $12K, gotta figure my blue over beige '15 SE with just under 34K on the clock should be closer to $10.5K at this point. That '14 brown over brown Eos was gone when I went to test drive it last week so never even gave them a chance to look at my vehicle. But, at this point, it's worth more to me to just keep it and drive it for another few years. Been very reliable except that first hiccup in year 1, and still fun to drive. Just that it'll be out of warranty in about 50 days or so and then, all bets are off on how well it'll behave. Hoping things go well though as don't really see anything out there I like as much.

    The Sandman :)B)

    Do you think your car has a calendar, and knows that 51 days from now, some major malfunction should occur?

    If it's been reliable for a majority of the past 36 months, why would you expect that to change in month 37?
    Well, VW has been known to implement some weird programming into their cars. :p

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    To their regret. Paris is going to ban diesel cars. Not Berlin though :p
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
    @explorerx4 when the fuzian is traded in what cars and SUVs are you looking at for your next upcumming punch!
  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,785
    How about a 2017 Toyota 86? Red, 5k miles, with the 6MT. It's just a baby...

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @marcothecarguy,
    IF I trade in the Fusion, probably an Explorer or some mid size performance sedan.
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,227
    A little help for a friend ... looking to buy a used truck.

    2004 F-150 FX4 SuperCab 4x4. Silver over Black, 72,000 miles. 5.4L V8. Looks to be a clean Carfax.

    Asking $13K - is this a fair price for Colorado?

    Here is the listing, in case any one is interested

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Don't buy it.

    auction value is about $8k; HOWEVER, they overpaid on that one at $9500 AND it was rated a very low 1.9 out of 5 on condition.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,227
    qbrozen said:

    Don't buy it.

    auction value is about $8k; HOWEVER, they overpaid on that one at $9500 AND it was rated a very low 1.9 out of 5 on condition.

    Thanks for the quick turnaround on this, q. I'll keep searching. Found out they are willing to travel farther for a truck with closer to 50,000 miles on it. Budget is around $17K

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Dealer retail pricing.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,227

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,227

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Sooo... they only care that it has a pickup bed? Big difference between a Ranger and F150. Personally, I'd be avoiding that 4.0 boat anchor.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,227
    qbrozen said:

    Sooo... they only care that it has a pickup bed? Big difference between a Ranger and F150. Personally, I'd be avoiding that 4.0 boat anchor.

    Yeah, I told them about both - they prefer the Dakota of the two.

    It would be a work truck, so yes, a pickup bed is about all they require.

    Not a regular cab because child, and 4x4 because Colorado. These are the folks who had the Versa with the stricken CVT. They also have a 2WD Explorer with 170K that apparently needs a new engine.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    You'll love this---price is very good....BUT....it's out of Canada and has a dirty Carfax from 2013 and 3 previous owners--- also damage is listed at less than $2000 CDN but still shows up as "accident" on the report.

    So right now it's at private party retail. Might be ok if he's going to drive it into the ground.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Right about $14k at the block on the Dakota

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    You'll love this---price is very good....BUT....it's out of Canada and has a dirty Carfax from 2013 and 3 previous owners--- also damage is listed at less than $2000 CDN but still shows up as "accident" on the report. So right now it's at private party retail. Might be ok if he's going to drive it into the ground.
    Which vehicle, Shifty?

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,227
    qbrozen said:



    You'll love this---price is very good....BUT....it's out of Canada and has a dirty Carfax from 2013 and 3 previous owners--- also damage is listed at less than $2000 CDN but still shows up as "accident" on the report.

    So right now it's at private party retail. Might be ok if he's going to drive it into the ground.

    Which vehicle, Shifty?

    Yeah, that was my question - I'll guess the Ranger as it's at a 'no name' dealer here in Denver.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,227
    qbrozen said:

    Right about $14k at the block on the Dakota

    So, what is the consensus on how much over auction value is a good price? I seem to remember $2K...

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,785
    tifighter said:

    How about a 2017 Toyota 86? Red, 5k miles, with the 6MT. It's just a baby...

    So I went and test drove this car. 5200 miles. Classic, all-out dealer shenanigans. But regarding the car, the ask price is $21.5K. MSRP new is $27K with destination. Figure low-mid 25's at best new?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Michaell said:
    Right about $14k at the block on the Dakota
    So, what is the consensus on how much over auction value is a good price? I seem to remember $2K...
    $2500 is fair. Work up or down from there.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    Hey Q - can you give me an idea on what Mercedes GLC300's are going for at auction?  

    2016 and 2017, though I imagine there are few 2017s.  

    Thanks!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,347
    I really like the new GLC. If we were replacing the RDX and going "Luxo" that would be the top contender.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    qbrozen said:



    You'll love this---price is very good....BUT....it's out of Canada and has a dirty Carfax from 2013 and 3 previous owners--- also damage is listed at less than $2000 CDN but still shows up as "accident" on the report.

    So right now it's at private party retail. Might be ok if he's going to drive it into the ground.

    Which vehicle, Shifty?

    The Ranger Sport
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    stickguy said:
    I really like the new GLC. If we were replacing the RDX and going "Luxo" that would be the top contender.
    Yeah, the wife may have settled into that today after looking closer at several of them along with some X5s.  Obviously those aren't direct competitors, but she likes the X5 over the X3 and the GLC over the GLE.  

    Not many used ones out there, though the dealership we went to knocks $4,500 off for lightly used loaner cars.  Doesn't sound like a stellar deal at all, but they do seem to remain in high demand.  

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    breld said:
    Hey Q - can you give me an idea on what Mercedes GLC300's are going for at auction?  

    2016 and 2017, though I imagine there are few 2017s.  

    Thanks!
    2016s are $35-40k. 2017s are another $2500.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    That's great - thank you Q!

    I was trying to get under the wire before your vacation - was I successful in that, did I have your vacation dates wrong in my head, or are you actually on vacation and just overly generous with your help?

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  • pr6147pr6147 Member Posts: 13
    I have leased a 2015 MDX SH-AWD with Tech pkg in Aug 2014. Now lease is up in another 1 weeks.

    Got around 35k miles on it

    paid around 20,500 for lease for 3 years incl taxes

    Have to pay 32,300 for it at lease end to own it. I live in VA so they already charged me the full sales tax on the leased car at the time of leasing. so no need to pay tax again if i buy it

    Is it worth buying my leased car or go for a new acura (only big repair i had so far was my right front wheel bearing and it had to be replaced 2 months back- was done under factory warranty)

    If i do keep the car then i will have to replace the tires - add another 800$

    2017 mdx with tech i am getting for 47K otd or i can extend lease by 1-2 months and wait for 2018

    Any help would be appreciated to clear my dilemma. thanks
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,497
    pr6147 said:

    I have leased a 2015 MDX SH-AWD with Tech pkg in Aug 2014. Now lease is up in another 1 weeks.

    Got around 35k miles on it

    paid around 20,500 for lease for 3 years incl taxes

    Have to pay 32,300 for it at lease end to own it. I live in VA so they already charged me the full sales tax on the leased car at the time of leasing. so no need to pay tax again if i buy it

    Is it worth buying my leased car or go for a new acura (only big repair i had so far was my right front wheel bearing and it had to be replaced 2 months back- was done under factory warranty)

    If i do keep the car then i will have to replace the tires - add another 800$

    2017 mdx with tech i am getting for 47K otd or i can extend lease by 1-2 months and wait for 2018

    Any help would be appreciated to clear my dilemma. thanks

    I will wait for our resident expert @qbrozen to give his input. He might take some time getting back to you because he might be on vacation this week.

    Do a search on CPO 2015 MDXs in your immediate area on Acura's website as well as a search on True Car. That will give you an approximate representation of where the market is at. Then I'd take it to a local CARMAX to get an appraisal. See what they say. That will give you the guidance you are looking for.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Your buyout is right at $2500 over auction value, so basically a decent deal if you had to buy one retail. You are, however, saving a lot in taxes and fees to keep yours.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    breld said:
    That's great - thank you Q! I was trying to get under the wire before your vacation - was I successful in that, did I have your vacation dates wrong in my head, or are you actually on vacation and just overly generous with your help?
    I am in costa rica. Rough travels yesterday but we are finally here. 

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,497
    qbrozen said:


    breld said:

    That's great - thank you Q!

    I was trying to get under the wire before your vacation - was I successful in that, did I have your vacation dates wrong in my head, or are you actually on vacation and just overly generous with your help?

    I am in costa rica. Rough travels yesterday but we are finally here. 

    Glad you arrived safely! Enjoy!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,347
    On that MDX, if the tires are shot, you will get charged anyway if you give the lease back.

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  • pr6147pr6147 Member Posts: 13
    stickguy said:
    On that MDX, if the tires are shot, you will get charged anyway if you give the lease back.
    they get taken care of under the 1500$ lease wear and tear offered by Acura 
  • pr6147pr6147 Member Posts: 13
    qbrozen said:

    Your buyout is right at $2500 over auction value, so basically a decent deal if you had to buy one retail. You are, however, saving a lot in taxes and fees to keep yours.

    thanks for the input
  • breannam40breannam40 Member Posts: 10
    I have a 2015 VW Tiguan SE silver with black leatherette and 33,000 miles.  Very good condition with minor wear and tear.  Still have all the mats, plus monster mats set of 4, heavy duty trunk liner with VW cargo blocks, and roadside assistance kit. Curious how much I should expect in trade in?  Thanks
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    edited August 2017
    I have a 2015 VW Tiguan SE silver with black leatherette and 33,000 miles.  Very good condition with minor wear and tear.  Still have all the mats, plus monster mats set of 4, heavy duty trunk liner with VW cargo blocks, and roadside assistance kit. Curious how much I should expect in trade in?  Thanks
    Location? Awd or fwd? Not sure if these came with manuals, but I'm assuming automatic?

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  • breannam40breannam40 Member Posts: 10
    fwd, houston Texas, and automatic, incase you are wondering no flood damage 
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618
    There may be no flood damage, but it'll be a hard sell going forward. Not sure how you'd document it, but it's going to become very important.
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  • breannam40breannam40 Member Posts: 10
    Planning to sell to a local dealership here so I think they will know which areas had flooding and which did not.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    fwd, houston Texas, and automatic, incase you are wondering no flood damage 
    Somewhere in the low to mid $12k range

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,497
    Planning to sell to a local dealership here so I think they will know which areas had flooding and which did not.
    I hope you and your family are OK.

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  • breannam40breannam40 Member Posts: 10
    Thank you @nyccarguy we are lucky that our area was dry and feel so grateful.  I have never seen anything like what has happened here in my life.  Just devastating.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342

    Wow. 22.5K per year in a Wrangler. This is one tough dude! :p:p

    Our son has one and I hate it as much as he loves it!
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,327
    My wife, son, and I still love our 1999 Wrangler Sahara- this May will make 15 years that I've owned it. The only thing I'd replace it with is another Jeep.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Oh, I know...Jeep lovers have almost a cult like affection for them. For me, they are hard to climb into, awkward, noisy and underpowered. Only Fiat has a worse repair record!

    But, our son absolutely LOVES his 2012 4 door Wrangler and THAT is what matters!


  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    I loved my CJ7, but I am convinced that was a Cadillac compared to the Wranglers that followed (although mine was extensively modified for comfort). Last one I tried was about an '05, I believe, and that thing was dreadful.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,347

    My wife, son, and I still love our 1999 Wrangler Sahara- this May will make 15 years that I've owned it. The only thing I'd replace it with is another Jeep.

    And you aren't DDing it and putting 22k a year on it. Attracting can wane doing that.

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