Real-World Trade-In Values

steine13

isellhondas said:

Timing belt and water pump job done? If not plan on spending a grand.

No power sliders mean it's a base model which isn't a bad thing. Lots of miles but the price certainly seems right!

Intererestingly, the '08 has a chain... or Gates doesn't make a belt for that model, but that seems unlikely.

And something else I learned: The LE came with ONE power slider, on the pass side. I'd'a preferred none, but my friend bought it anyway.

The AC was out, so that's getting fixed, with a warranty no less, and the price is $3,600.
For an '08 Sienna LE w/ 155k one-owner miles and no rust. If a deal like that had been around last year, I wouldn't be driving a low-rent '17 Grand Caravan.

I'm thinking the used-car market is back to where it's starting to make sense again. And the goodness is in miley, quality products with a solid history.

stickguy

surprises me to say this, but when I was shopping, I might have bit on that too. I poked around at some cheap options like that, but nothing really stood out as being worth it. Either that price range, and crap, or something like you got but listed at $7K so too pricey.

spike13131

looking for trade-in on
2011 Audi A4 Quattro Premium Plus 57k nothing wrong with it except some wheel scuffs, tires are good, no prior accidents in Irvine, CA. Has nav, backup camera. Thanks in Advance.

roadburner

spike13131 said:

looking for trade-in on
2011 Audi A4 Quattro Premium Plus 57k nothing wrong with it except some wheel scuffs, tires are good, no prior accidents in Irvine, CA. Has nav, backup camera. Thanks in Advance.

Color?

nyccarguy

spike13131 said:

looking for trade-in on 2011 Audi A4 Quattro Premium Plus 57k nothing wrong with it (YET) except some wheel scuffs, tires are good, no prior accidents in Irvine, CA. Has nav, backup camera. Thanks in Advance.

spike13131

Black

qbrozen

spike13131 said:

looking for trade-in on 2011 Audi A4 Quattro Premium Plus 57k nothing wrong with it except some wheel scuffs, tires are good, no prior accidents in Irvine, CA. Has nav, backup camera. Thanks in Advance.

That's a sedan, right?

nice low miles and in the right market. So $10.5k-$11k.

spike13131

Yes its the sedan. Thanks again for your help.

nyccarguy

Hey @qbrozen, how much wiggle room do you think there is in this 2016 Pilot AWD Touring?  thank-you!

https://www.hondacertified.com/vehicle-details?vin=5FNYF6H98GB016661

stickguy

are you going to save enough on a used Honda to make it a better deal than a new one? Some cars traditionally made more sense to buy new. Honda being one of them! But maybe these overpriced station wagons depreciate more than the Accord and Civic used to.

stickguy

wow. sticker on that new is $44,560. Looks like just 2017s in stock now. So probably could get that for what, 40k? so $5K for 1 MY and 27,000 miles?

wonder where the 2018s are.

and dang, that dealer still has a ton of 2017 V6 Accords. Too bad I don't need one!

qbrozen

nyccarguy said:

Hey @qbrozen, how much wiggle room do you think there is in this 2016 Pilot AWD Touring?  thank-you!

https://www.hondacertified.com/vehicle-details?vin=5FNYF6H98GB016661

Not much. They probably have about $32k in it for CPO, give or take a couple hundred. MAYBE you could beat them down to $34k. 

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

Hey @qbrozen, how much wiggle room do you think there is in this 2016 Pilot AWD Touring?  thank-you!

https://www.hondacertified.com/vehicle-details?vin=5FNYF6H98GB016661

Not much. They probably have about $32k in it for CPO, give or take a couple hundred. MAYBE you could beat them down to $34k. 

Looks like a very early build 2016 9AT. I'm going to stay away.

stickguy

So vs. new, your warranty would be about 1 year, 8k Miles.

tjc78

Hey Q,
Can use your help. Good friend of mine is looking for a value on his (now totaled) vehicle

2009 Santa Fe Limited AWD V6 (fully loaded)
Was mint condition with 70K miles
Blue over Ivory

South Jersey

thanks!!

Mr_Shiftright

Fair market retail? I'd say he could settle it for $9K-$10K. What is insurance offering him?

qbrozen

yeah, he doesn't want my numbers. use the generous publicly available "books."

tjc78

Oh I know that! Was just thinking a few thousand above.

They are offering 10,900

pensfan83

Requesting for a friend, look at trade value but not discounting a PP sale either.

2013 Dodge Dart Aero
6 Speed Manual
Options: Bluetooth/Satellite Radio
42,000 miles
Dark Blue
Mechanically sound but there are some noticeable scratches on the hood.

Zip: 15102

qbrozen

pensfan83 said:

Requesting for a friend, look at trade value but not discounting a PP sale either.

2013 Dodge Dart Aero
6 Speed Manual
Options: Bluetooth/Satellite Radio
42,000 miles
Dark Blue
Mechanically sound but there are some noticeable scratches on the hood.

Zip: 15102

boy, that's tough. i'm assuming northeast based on your username. i have zero manual transmission comps to go on. I'm thinking $3k. I suppose they could go to $3500 if they don't mind the handshaker so much.

PP? Probably put a $5995 pricetag on it and take $5k.

qbrozen

tjc78 said:

Oh I know that! Was just thinking a few thousand above.

They are offering 10,900

That's about fair. Is it supposed to include taxes and tags? I always forget how these things work. I would have put fair retail purchase at $10,500-$11k plus the taxes and fees, so OTD would be more like $12k

pensfan83

qbrozen said:

boy, that's tough. i'm assuming northeast based on your username. i have zero manual transmission comps to go on. I'm thinking $3k. I suppose they could go to $3500 if they don't mind the handshaker so much.

PP? Probably put a $5995 pricetag on it and take $5k.

Thanks Q, it's Pittsburgh so Northeast is right on. I think he could live with $3K if it came down to it.

drnw04a

Any idea on a realistic trade-in for a 2015 (not 2015.5) Volvo XC60 T6 Platinum silver ext/black int, heated seats. ~32k miles, clean in and out. Have a few months left on its lease but trying to take advantage of some of the year-end deals now on a next car. Thanks!

cdnpinhead

Need location.

drnw04a

Chicago area if that was for me

tjc78

qbrozen said:

tjc78 said:

Oh I know that! Was just thinking a few thousand above.

They are offering 10,900

That's about fair. Is it supposed to include taxes and tags? I always forget how these things work. I would have put fair retail purchase at $10,500-$11k plus the taxes and fees, so OTD would be more like $12k

Thank you!

Mr_Shiftright

tjc78 said:

Oh I know that! Was just thinking a few thousand above.

They are offering 10,900

Take it. And yes, tax and license is added on to that. If he/she refuses the offer, they'll just move them into arbitration, which requires that they hire an appraiser to write an appraisal, then hire him again to conduct a hearing in their behalf, and then pay 1/2 the fee for the referee. So they'll be in another $750 at least to get...what? A demand for another $1000? Doesn't make sense to me for a few hundred gain (maybe) but if the owner wants to die on that hill for the sake of principle--go for it.

tjc78

Just talked to him.... forgot that this was the third accident in that car. I told him to counter at 11,500 and if not take the 10,900 and run! He is making out in the deal. Funny thing it's completely drivable but the repairs are totaling almost 9K. Insurance Co is considering it a total.

Mr_Shiftright

As I mentioned in the previous post, he should be careful--if he counter offers they may throw it into arbitration and withdraw their offer.

tjc78

Gotcha, I'll tell him about that. I think our posts crossed paths.

qbrozen

3rd accident? Good grief, he should send them a thank you card. "Mint condition"! Pbbbttt

qbrozen

drnw04a said:

Any idea on a realistic trade-in for a 2015 (not 2015.5) Volvo XC60 T6 Platinum silver ext/black int, heated seats. ~32k miles, clean in and out. Have a few months left on its lease but trying to take advantage of some of the year-end deals now on a next car. Thanks!

About $25k

supaflash

2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport 4x4 - 52k miles. Hard Top, Manual, Black, Black alloy wheels with 33" offroad tires with good tread x 5. Brand new aftermarket fenders, side rails, and seat covers. Upgraded stereo with removable double DIN face, bluetooth, apple car play, amp and subwoofer w/ alarm and keyless entry. All weather floor liners including trunk mat, deluxe aftermarket netting for back when top is off. Excellent condition, inside is spotless, minor scratches on the outside. 1 minor accident on record, no damage to Jeep. Tailgate is a little dinged up on the inside.

tjc78

qbrozen said:

3rd accident? Good grief, he should send them a thank you card. "Mint condition"! Pbbbttt

Minor stuff, but yes I told him they are doing him a favor in the long run. 

Car hasn’t cost him anything in unscheduled repairs and he is getting a good price for a vehicle he probably wouldn’t clear 6500 or so in a trade.  

qbrozen

supaflash said:

2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport 4x4 - 52k miles. Hard Top, Manual, Black, Black alloy wheels with 33" offroad tires with good tread x 5. Brand new aftermarket fenders, side rails, and seat covers. Upgraded stereo with removable double DIN face, bluetooth, apple car play, amp and subwoofer w/ alarm and keyless entry. All weather floor liners including trunk mat, deluxe aftermarket netting for back when top is off. Excellent condition, inside is spotless, minor scratches on the outside. 1 minor accident on record, no damage to Jeep. Tailgate is a little dinged up on the inside.

So what was the result of the accident and does it show on carfax?

what exactly do you mean by aftermarket fenders? Added flares or did you actually remove the stock fenders entirely? And what is with the seat covers? What do the seats look like underneath? How much of all this can you return to stock? 

In which state do you live?

steine13

Here's a bit of an outlier... 2dr 2012 VW Golf w/ the 5cyl/5spd manual. 62k miles.
The VIN is WVWAB7AJ6CW335070

It has a weird history, with no miles accumulated between 2014 & 2016... very strange.
However, it's sitting at a Dodge dealer not too far away from me, and I'm thinking this might be a candidate for an ugly deal just to get it sold.

This is the low-end model, obviously, stout driverain, gray over black, weird black wheel covers, very stark:
https://cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/721092270/overview/

What's it worth at auction?
Thanks in advance,
-Mathias

stickguy

I like it. Seems over priced though. At least to me. Can probably get a brand new 2017 Jetta S 5 speed for 15k.

qbrozen

about $5500 at the block. $8k is about fair. Figure $7k would be a "get it the hell outta here" deal.

nyccarguy

@qbrozen

Can you compare the trade in value of the following vehicle in perfect condition and with 12K worth of damage (that has been repaired)?

2017 Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited
14K Miles
Red/Black Leather
CVT
Long Island, NY

Thanks!

qbrozen

No, I can't. Auction results don't tell you such things.

Mr_Shiftright

You could run it by CARMAX and see what they offer, as a baseline for negotiating with the dealer.

steine13

I don't know what it is this time of year.. but I just had a request for an interesting valuation.

This is in picturesque mid-Michigan, of course:
2010 Subaru Forester Premium (or "X Premium" -- it's one step up from base, NOT the XT)
63k miles. In white. Manual Transmission.
Sunroof, alloys, heated seats -- all part of the Premium trim.
No accidents, one owner, and he takes care of his cars.

(I should know. Bought his '87 Audi 4000 many many moons ago.)
Thanks in advance as always. Sorry for two-in-a-day here

stickguy

I’ll take it for the right price!

qbrozen

Of course I have NO comps with manual. Normally, it would be $9k-$9500 trade, $11k Pp, $12k-$12.5k retail. With the handshaker? Hmmm.... probably a good $1k hit on trade but then "rare" on the retail side so might justify a premium if advertised in the right places and seller has patience.

corvette

steine13 said:

I don't know what it is this time of year.. but I just had a request for an interesting valuation. This is in picturesque mid-Michigan, of course: 2010 Subaru Forester Premium (or "X Premium" -- it's one step up from base, NOT the XT) 63k miles. In white. Manual Transmission. Sunroof, alloys, heated seats -- all part of the Premium trim. No accidents, one owner, and he takes care of his cars. (I should know. Bought his '87 Audi 4000 many many moons ago.) Thanks in advance as always. Sorry for two-in-a-day here

Paging @xwesx ...

28firefighter

Q,

Can you give me an idea of auction and retail pricing on the following? My Dad is looking at it - or rather, I'm going to look at it on his behalf.

2012 Porsche Cayenne Turbo
43k miles
Auto
Black over Gray Leather Interior
Premium Package Plus
Porsche Entry and Drive
Burmester Audio
25 Year Exclusive Package (PX-4)
Lane Change Assist
Adaptive Cruise
19" Turbo Wheel Package
1 Owner

Car is located in the Seattle area

Thanks!

qbrozen

About $44k auction. So figure $47k-$48k retail.

28firefighter

qbrozen said:

About $44k auction. So figure $47k-$48k retail.

Wow OK - lower than I thought. They're asking $53k for it. This is the same place I bought the A3 TDI, and they were definitely on the high side for that, as well.

dillydill

steine13 said:

I don't know what it is this time of year.. but I just had a request for an interesting valuation. This is in picturesque mid-Michigan, of course: 2010 Subaru Forester Premium (or "X Premium" -- it's one step up from base, NOT the XT) 63k miles. In white. Manual Transmission. Sunroof, alloys, heated seats -- all part of the Premium trim. No accidents, one owner, and he takes care of his cars. (I should know. Bought his '87 Audi 4000 many many moons ago.) Thanks in advance as always. Sorry for two-in-a-day here

My uncle has same car in green and is looking for numbers please. 

In massachusetts. 
2010 forester x premium with manual. 
210,000 miles. 
17” Alloys, moonroof. 
Some rust spots on roof near windshield. Driver seat is 8 way power but does not go up in front as there is something broken on  both sides of seat. Seems a weld is broken. 
Driver sun visor is broken and doesn’t work. 

Recent clutch. Good tires no accidents. 
Thank you!

qbrozen

dillydill said:

My uncle has same car in green and is looking for numbers please. 

In massachusetts. 
2010 forester x premium with manual. 
210,000 miles. 
17” Alloys, moonroof. 
Some rust spots on roof near windshield. Driver seat is 8 way power but does not go up in front as there is something broken on  both sides of seat. Seems a weld is broken. 
Driver sun visor is broken and doesn’t work. 

Recent clutch. Good tires no accidents. 
Thank you!

I have no realistic numbers for this. It is worth what someone is willing to pay, frankly. If I try to use historic auction values, it is worth nothing because I try to deduct for the extra miles and wind up with less than zero. (example: 63k miles = $8500; deduct $75 per extra 1k miles = -$2525) Even if I'm flexible and deduct $50/1k, the result is $1150, and that isn't even taking the rust into consideration nor the costs of getting it TO auction. A dealer might give a good faith $500, I suppose. Private party is the only way to go. Ask $2500 and take whatever cash comes along.