Real-World Trade-In Values

qbrozen

Stick or auto? Coupe or droptop?

tjc78

nyccarguy said:

tjc78 said:

It may be a touch, you can't get middle row captain's chairs unless you step up to an Advance Model. Captain's chairs are a must for us until the kids are out of car seats.

We like the bench in the 2nd row.  There are times we have to strap em in 3 across.

Yeah, couldn’t do that with the split seats.  For us it seems we always have a extra adult and the opening just makes things easier.  

Mr_Shiftright

qbrozen said:

Stick or auto? Coupe or droptop?

Manual trans, coupe. Why can't you just read my mind?

Sandman6472

A co-worker has a 2016 Kia Sorrento with the 6 and says it does have 3 row seating. His is black over black, a nice looking rig but too hot for South Florida. What was he thinking!!

The Sandman

stickguy

I thought the Sorrento was too small for 3 rows. Must be one of those tweaners where it is too tiny to be used, and zero cargo room behind it anyway.

tjc78

Isn’t the Sorento the same chassis as the Santa Fe (the bigger one, not the sport)?

stickguy

I thought it was shorter, but will admit I don't pay that much attention to Kia. I do though really like the big Santa Fe, if you want something that size class.

qbrozen

Mr_Shiftright said:

Stick or auto? Coupe or droptop?

Manual trans, coupe. Why can't you just read my mind?

Honestly I assumed that is what it was, but I just never know with you.

Sooo...yeah, it is an outlier. There are also few of them, at any miles, at auction to begin with.

Most recent was in Oct but with 83k miles, rated a 3.5/5. Sold for $11,200, which is a bit on the high side compared to a couple of others. In any case, let's call it $11.5k if its a 4.5 like it sounds. Then let's add $50/1k miles. That's $2750. $14,250 for an '08 350z is pretty strong, I think. My gut tells me a dealer might put $12.5k-$13k trade on it, tops. Fair retail on that is then $15.5k, maybe $16k. Private party? How about $14.5k-$15k?

tbirdmarco

@nyccarguy yes the EXl does not have all of that don't think! have to get Toring think going tomero with my aunt to look at one they might leese one we shal see there leese on there ford is up in feb! so don't have much time! if numbers are good if not will tell them look els whair and at other SUVS so we shal see! nice Truck from what have heard tho!

tbirdmarco

ford dealer near me has an left over 2016 Explorer platnam around 43k would try to get it for 40k if wher me did call to see if it was still in stock yes it is! my favorate color to red! love calling the dealers just cause I can! to big for my mom she does like the look tho she said! they have an nother left over Toras that I like gray the color she wants so if still around in march or sumthing like that and she likes it can deal deal big time on that one!

tbirdmarco

@Mr_Shiftright sounds like an nice Z

tjc78

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

@nyccarguy yes the EXl does not have all of that don't think! have to get Toring think going tomero with my aunt to look at one they might leese one we shal see there leese on there ford is up in feb! so don't have much time! if numbers are good if not will tell them look els whair and at other SUVS so we shal see! nice Truck from what have heard tho!

The Pilot has a Money Factor of .00200.   This translates to 4.8%.... it’s not a cheap vehicle to lease.   Check out the (expertly modded.. ) Pilot leasing forums before you go.  

Mr_Shiftright

qbrozen said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

qbrozen said:

Stick or auto? Coupe or droptop?

Manual trans, coupe. Why can't you just read my mind?

Honestly I assumed that is what it was, but I just never know with you.

Sooo...yeah, it is an outlier. There are also few of them, at any miles, at auction to begin with.

Most recent was in Oct but with 83k miles, rated a 3.5/5. Sold for $11,200, which is a bit on the high side compared to a couple of others. In any case, let's call it $11.5k if its a 4.5 like it sounds. Then let's add $50/1k miles. That's $2750. $14,250 for an '08 350z is pretty strong, I think. My gut tells me a dealer might put $12.5k-$13k trade on it, tops. Fair retail on that is then $15.5k, maybe $16k. Private party? How about $14.5k-$15k?

That sounds about right Q. Mr. dealership is a bit drunk on this one. This always happens on outliers, The seller thinks that some exceptional thing makes it exceptionally valuable.

But here's the point they miss----someone has to actually CARE. It's a modern, common Japanese car. Are you going to "preserve" it? Probably not. You're going to use it.

So, as you stated, the only premium one can consider, is to put a small premium on the miles. So I agree, about $16K is all the money here.

steine13

Another way to look at it, it's such a unicorn, if you really like it, you shouldn't lose it over $2k.
>> 28,000 original miles, pristine top to bottom, even smells new.
.. that may not mean all that much in the "market" but it would mean something to me.

Another way to say it, it's opposite side of the coin where when you find problems, there is never enough of a discount for the bad things. At least that has been my experience.

cheers -mathias

Mr_Shiftright

I think it would be the type of car for someone who keeps their car a long time. To pay over "book" for a car, you had better like it a lot.

qbrozen

Right. Common nonspecial car. You should only pay for the miles you are going to use, not for the privelege of a preserved car. 

What are they asking? $20k? I could then get a 370z for that money.

qbrozen

Just looked it up. 2010 370z with 35k-40k miles you could get into for $18k.

Mr_Shiftright

Yes, $20K. If it were a Cayman in that shape I might have bought it on the spot---although the Cayman's interior is no better than the Nissan's, sad to say.

That's true what you say. I saw a 2011 370Z with only 40K on it for $19,995 and probably one could shave off that.

It's got a bit more HP than the 350--maybe 30 more? The body style is a love it or hate it thing, I think.

corvette

Exactly. A 370z like that was also in the running before I bought the Mustang. Still happy with my choice. 

Mr_Shiftright

AND unlike the Cayman you won't have the CEL working all the time.

qbrozen

I think the part about the 370 that intrigues me most is the auto rev matching with the manual trans.

tbirdmarco

@tjc78 will look on this foram my selfe and explane to them and show them the foram to to read! thank you might be going tomero now or next weekand is the plan so shal see when they want to go!

Mr_Shiftright

qbrozen said:

I think the part about the 370 that intrigues me most is the auto rev matching with the manual trans.

Oh that's right. That fits in quite well with how I drive. This merits further exploration.

roadburner

qbrozen said:

I think the part about the 370 that intrigues me most is the auto rev matching with the manual trans.

And I like that it can be easily switched off; on a BMW you have to disable most all of the nannies to turn rev matching off.

Mr_Shiftright

Yep, sometimes you don't want it.

steine13

So the German post-doc looking for wheels has settled on an '05 Scion tC, complete with cold-air intake and fart-can exhaust. At least it's cheap and otherwise solid.. to each his own.

However, I've come across an interesting minivan that I think a friend of mine might buy:
2008 Toyota Sienna LE, silver, 5TDZK23C28S099660
155k, one owner -- I saw the tile showing all of 12 miles at delivery.
Cloth seats, no wheels, no power sliders (YES!!!),
The interior is clean "by minivan standards" -- keeping in mind it was just detailed.

New tires: "Arizonians" -- spared no expense -- I'd prefer bald tires and a small discount but nobody asked me.

No major accidents but rear bumper repainted... there's snow on the ground so I havent really spent quality time underneath it. No leaks. maintenance unknown.

Asking price is $3,800, which strikes me as very reasonable, and if it checks out at the mechanic's, I'd be inclined to pay that.

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance as always,
cheers -mathias

qbrozen

Only a few hundred more than it would get at dealer auction so thumbs up.

Mr_Shiftright

CARFAX is good. Looks like it has been serviced for quite a few years at "Bill and Charlie's Auto Repair" in Lansing, so that might be worth a call to see what they know.

steine13

Thanks for the help, guys. The van is good to drive, a little loose maybe but not unexpected with the miles. No leaks, no check engine light.. and I did follow up with the shop, and they were kind enough to pull up the records. Nothing untoward there.
It's at my usual shop now for a checkup, and we'll get the verdict on it --and the '05 Scion tC -- tomorrow. Along with aprprox 5" of snow. Michigan amiright?

chaley76

What is a reasonable trade-in price for a 2011 Honda Pilot EXL 4WD with 88,700 miles on it? Normal/average wear & tear.... red/maroon with black interior. Thank you!!

Michaell

chaley76 said:

What is a reasonable trade-in price for a 2011 Honda Pilot EXL 4WD with 88,700 miles on it? Normal/average wear & tear.... red/maroon with black interior. Thank you!!

Where are you?

stickguy

With a name like "chaley" you had to ask? (That, and it says Boston, Mass in his profile)

qbrozen

$11k-$11.5k

Michaell

stickguy said:

With a name like "chaley" you had to ask? (That, and it says Boston, Mass in his profile)

Oh, duh. With the number of posts I read and respond to daily, sometimes I miss the obvious.

And, while I've spent a fair amount of time in and around Boston over the years, what is the reference to "Chaley"?

stickguy

New England accent for Charlie? I know, might be reaching.

Mr_Shiftright

I remember some cops talking in Boston and one said:

"Try to get 'im on the kadakah."

The Ka-Da-Kah?

Oh, the patrol car's radio-----car to car !!

pensfan83

I had to chuckle more than a few times when I was in Boston a few months ago and people, local or otherwise, immediately picked up on my Pittsburgh dialect and knew where I was from before I even told them.

tbirdmarco

@stickguy lollollol

tbirdmarco

is anyone elce having problems with posting on edmans forams slow to post! bin going on for an few days

kyfdx

For a friend:

2014 Ford F-150
Crew Cab
FX4 trim
4X4
3.5 litre Ecoboost six
65K miles
Red exterior
Black cloth/leather (?) interior

Loaded (NAV, Tow, Tonneau cover, etc, etc)
Good condition, with all dealer service.

Looking for a trade-in and retail value.
Has a leaking turbo, and they may be buying it back.
Wants to make sure he doesn't get low-balled.

Cincinnati area.

tbirdmarco

and was riting an posting and just vanished and did not get to post it!

tbirdmarco

so my aunt ended up leesing an new Pilet yesterday! red with tan interior EXL with sencing! not shore when they are picking the car up!

tbirdmarco

all I no is 36 Munths and 12k per year hope they are paying the same or less like they wher paying on there Ford! will find out tried to give advice but like usall no one lissens to me in my family!

roadburner

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

all I no is 36 Munths and 12k per year hope they are paying the same or less like they wher paying on there Ford! will find out tried to give advice but like usall no one lissens to me in my family!

I quit giving advice to my Mom; she usually ignored my advice- and if she followed my advice it always turned out to be wrong.

qbrozen

kyfdx said:

For a friend: 2014 Ford F-150 Crew Cab FX4 trim 4X4 3.5 litre Ecoboost six 65K miles Red exterior Black cloth/leather (?) interior Loaded (NAV, Tow, Tonneau cover, etc, etc) Good condition, with all dealer service. Looking for a trade-in and retail value. Has a leaking turbo, and they may be buying it back. Wants to make sure he doesn't get low-balled. Cincinnati area.

Only about $24-24.5k trade so figure about 27-27.5 fair retail.

why would they buy back a 4-yr-old truck with 65k?

tbirdmarco

@roadburner think going to do the same thing in the new year!

explorerx4

The cloth in that F150 is alcantara. I have the same seats in mine.

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

kyfdx said:

For a friend:

2014 Ford F-150
Crew Cab
FX4 trim
4X4
3.5 litre Ecoboost six
65K miles
Red exterior
Black cloth/leather (?) interior

Loaded (NAV, Tow, Tonneau cover, etc, etc)
Good condition, with all dealer service.

Looking for a trade-in and retail value.
Has a leaking turbo, and they may be buying it back.
Wants to make sure he doesn't get low-balled.

Cincinnati area.

Only about $24-24.5k trade so figure about 27-27.5 fair retail.

why would they buy back a 4-yr-old truck with 65k?

Just 5K miles out of power train warranty. Some sort of goodwill thing. The dealer is “going to bat” for him with Ford, supposedly. Family is big Ford customers. He just wants to be ready, if they make an offer.

Thanks a lot!

isellhondas

steine13 said:

So the German post-doc looking for wheels has settled on an '05 Scion tC, complete with cold-air intake and fart-can exhaust. At least it's cheap and otherwise solid.. to each his own.

However, I've come across an interesting minivan that I think a friend of mine might buy:
2008 Toyota Sienna LE, silver, 5TDZK23C28S099660
155k, one owner -- I saw the tile showing all of 12 miles at delivery.
Cloth seats, no wheels, no power sliders (YES!!!),
The interior is clean "by minivan standards" -- keeping in mind it was just detailed.

New tires: "Arizonians" -- spared no expense -- I'd prefer bald tires and a small discount but nobody asked me.

No major accidents but rear bumper repainted... there's snow on the ground so I havent really spent quality time underneath it. No leaks. maintenance unknown.

Asking price is $3,800, which strikes me as very reasonable, and if it checks out at the mechanic's, I'd be inclined to pay that.

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance as always,
cheers -mathias

Timing belt and water pump job done? If not plan on spending a grand.

No power sliders mean it's a base model which isn't a bad thing. Lots of miles but the price certainly seems right!

tbirdmarco

so got rest of detales on my aunts Pilet leese it is an 2017 415 an munth think they put $3000 down ford does not let Honda bye out there leeses so had to role last payment in to leese! sumthing like that