Real-World Trade-In Values

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

Funny that the gremlins chose breld's post. Totally plausible that he'd be asking AGAIN.

Who can keep track?

flnovice

Thinking of getting myself an Xmas present. What could I expect to get to trade in a 2015 Toyota Avalon with 18K miles in Tampa Bay, FL

roadburner

flnovice said:

Thinking of getting myself an Xmas present. What could I expect to get to trade in a 2015 Toyota Avalon with 18K miles in Tampa Bay, FL

Color?
Trim level?
Miles?
Accident history?

flnovice

Color is beige, Trim is XLE, 18,000 miles, no accidents.

qbrozen

About $18k

Sandman6472

Wow, for the top of the line Avalon, only $18K? Those are really nice vehicles and bet it cost about $30K, give or take.

The Sandman

tjc78

sandman_6472 said:

Wow, for the top of the line Avalon, only $18K? Those are really nice vehicles and bet it cost about $30K, give or take.

The Sandman

My 06 (not fully loaded) Avalon was over 30K... I suppose this one was near 40K!

qbrozen

sandman_6472 said:

Wow, for the top of the line Avalon, only $18K? Those are really nice vehicles and bet it cost about $30K, give or take.

The Sandman

There are higher trim levels. I would think it cost quite a bit more since a Camry easily breaks $30k.

Mr_Shiftright

Supply and demand, lads...supply and demand. The equation that rules.

steine13

I'm helping one of our new postdocs find wheels.. my impression is that the used-car market is quite a bit down from recent highs.. except at the bottom end around $3 and below. Still that was my thinking -- 18k miles on a '15 Avalon, and $18 at the auction... all of a sudden it makes sense to buy used again.

qbrozen

Well, technically $19k at auction. $18k is trade-in.

stickguy

so that car to buy is more like $22,995 for a 4 YO car. Not quite the same value.

qbrozen

But 18k miles. Probably a safe buy for grandma.

steine13

Three-year-old car. 2018 - 2015 = 3.
Car age math is hard, but stick is double-counting.
And 18k miles, and $20k private party. If you can find someone who is selling and doesn't owe $28 on it

qbrozen

Its Terry Math. ;b

kyfdx

steine13 said:

Three-year-old car. 2018 - 2015 = 3.
Car age math is hard, but stick is double-counting.
And 18k miles, and $20k private party. If you can find someone who is selling and doesn't owe $28 on it

Don't all Avalon buyers pay cash? They typically took all of their money out of the banks in the Depression.

corvette

qbrozen said:

Its Terry Math. ;b

Yep. When you drive a new current model year car off the lot, it’s a year old. 

robbieg

The Avalon isn't nearly as expensive as you are making it out to be. A 2018 Avalon XLE can be had for less than 30,000. Lot of car for the money.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/cars+under+30000/2018/Toyota/Avalon/Pittsburgh+PA-15238?zip=15238&startYear=2018&numRecords=25&sortBy=derivedpriceDESC&maxPrice=30000&firstRecord=0&endYear=2018&modelCodeList=AVALON&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&searchRadius=200

stickguy

Model year 2019 start coming out next month. It’s about to be 4 car years old. Just ask a dealer if you go trade it in a few months from now!

tjc78

robbieg said:

The Avalon isn't nearly as expensive as you are making it out to be. A 2018 Avalon XLE can be had for less than 30,000. Lot of car for the money. https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/cars+under+30000/2018/Toyota/Avalon/Pittsburgh+PA-15238?zip=15238&startYear=2018&numRecords=25&sortBy=derivedpriceDESC&maxPrice=30000&firstRecord=0&endYear=2018&modelCodeList=AVALON&makeCodeList=TOYOTA&searchRadius=200

They must have come down in price. My 2006 was one tier below fully loaded and I believe it was 33k.

28firefighter

Q,

My dad just had his TDI fix performed and is looking to maybe capitalize on the discounts on the unsold Audi Q7s.

Can you let me know what reasonable trade would be for this?

2014 VW Touraeg TDI Executive
94k Miles
Black
Brown Leather Interior
Automatic
Nav
Front and Rear Park Assist
Backup Camera

Philly area.

Generally in great shape but did have some work done on the front bumper after someone backed into it. Not sure what the Carfax shows since it wasn't run through insurance.

Thanks!

qbrozen

Too early. I have zero data.

28firefighter

qbrozen said:

Too early. I have zero data.

Carmax was offering him about $23k before the fix was in place because it was just too much risk. I suspect its probably $25-30k.

@Mr_Shiftright can you still run a VIN check to see if it has an accident listed?

stickguy

That’s way more than I would have expected at those miles

tjc78

Yes, I was thousands off!

cartalk

kyfdx said:

Don't all Avalon buyers pay cash? They typically took all of their money out of the banks in the Depression.

Was that the 1929 depression or the 2008 depression?

28firefighter

stickguy said:

That’s way more than I would have expected at those miles

I assume this was to me. I agree, but the TDIs are still in-demand among the people that do a lot of heavy driving. My Dad does about 25k a year on his TDI and another 9k on his Porsche 968.

I think the car is actually worth more to him than market value. Making some calls now to see what it would take to extend the warranty another 50-75k miles through VW.

jpp75

28firefighter said:

I assume this was to me. I agree, but the TDIs are still in-demand among the people that do a lot of heavy driving. My Dad does about 25k a year on his TDI and another 9k on his Porsche 968.

I think the car is actually worth more to him than market value. Making some calls now to see what it would take to extend the warranty another 50-75k miles through VW.

Wow, I was hoping to pick up a TDI Touareg but at those prices it's not worth it. $25k will be the buyout on my 2016 in 12 months and I'll likely be in the low 40's for miles.

xwesx

I expect to get about $34K for mine when I put it up for sale in a few weeks. We'll see. None of us really know what the impact of the "fix" will be on them (both in terms of real-world performance and market value). However, this fix also comes with an unprecedented powertrain and emissions warranty, so there's a lot of value in that. The emissions items (such as DEF tank/pump/filters) are major ticket items when something goes wrong....

Mr_Shiftright

28firefighter said:

qbrozen said:

Too early. I have zero data.

Carmax was offering him about $23k before the fix was in place because it was just too much risk. I suspect its probably $25-30k.

@Mr_Shiftright can you still run a VIN check to see if it has an accident listed?

Sure, post it!

nyccarguy

AHEM - asking for a trade in value for a "friend"

2011 Honda Pilot EXL w/ Navigation 4WD
100,300 miles
Grey Exterior/Black Leather guts
NaV, hot seats, well maintained
Average Exterior/interior condition
Located in Lower Fairfield County, CT

28firefighter

Mr_Shiftright said:

Too early. I have zero data.

Carmax was offering him about $23k before the fix was in place because it was just too much risk. I suspect its probably $25-30k. @Mr_Shiftright can you still run a VIN check to see if it has an accident listed?

Sure, post it!

WVGEP9BP6ED004484

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

AHEM - asking for a trade in value for a "friend"

2011 Honda Pilot EXL w/ Navigation 4WD
100,300 miles
Grey Exterior/Black Leather guts
NaV, hot seats, well maintained
Average Exterior/interior condition
Located in Lower Fairfield County, CT

I recognize that vehicle. "Friend", my, er, you-know-what.

I thought Hondas ran forever - why you thinkin' of getting out of it, now?

nyccarguy

I'm not.  Just keeping my options open.  So I'm driving the Prelude today and she'll have my Infiniti.

qbrozen

nyccarguy said:

AHEM - asking for a trade in value for a "friend"

2011 Honda Pilot EXL w/ Navigation 4WD
100,300 miles
Grey Exterior/Black Leather guts
NaV, hot seats, well maintained
Average Exterior/interior condition
Located in Lower Fairfield County, CT

$10.5k, give or take a nickle

That is, of course, if you fix the faults first

stickguy

She might not give it back.

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

AHEM - asking for a trade in value for a "friend"

2011 Honda Pilot EXL w/ Navigation 4WD
100,300 miles
Grey Exterior/Black Leather guts
NaV, hot seats, well maintained
Average Exterior/interior condition
Located in Lower Fairfield County, CT

$10.5k, give or take a nickle

That is, of course, if you fix the faults first

I have no choice but to fix them. I'm waiting to hear from the mechanic. Hopefully it will be soon. Thank-you Rich.

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

AHEM - asking for a trade in value for a "friend"

2011 Honda Pilot EXL w/ Navigation 4WD
100,300 miles
Grey Exterior/Black Leather guts
NaV, hot seats, well maintained
Average Exterior/interior condition
Located in Lower Fairfield County, CT

$10.5k, give or take a nickle

That is, of course, if you fix the faults first

I have no choice but to fix them. I'm waiting to hear from the mechanic. Hopefully it will be soon. Thank-you Rich.

That's a hefty down payment on a new rig. Have Pilots gotten a lot more expensive since you bought yours? Or, would you consider another brand?

stickguy

The big Santa Fe is nice. Good deal and long warranty

Michaell

stickguy said:

The big Santa Fe is nice. Good deal and long warranty

I was thinking about the Sorento when I typed my post.

stickguy

No third row

Michaell

stickguy said:

No third row

It's an option.

Mr_Shiftright

28firefighter said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Too early. I have zero data.

Carmax was offering him about $23k before the fix was in place because it was just too much risk. I suspect its probably $25-30k.

@Mr_Shiftright can you still run a VIN check to see if it has an accident listed?

Sure, post it!

WVGEP9BP6ED004484


It's clean, but that annoying little fox says this at the bottom of the report:

"Hmm, we haven't received any information on this car since August 2015. Before you buy, ask the seller for recent service or repair records."

28firefighter

That’s weird. Is that normal?

thanks for checking!

nyccarguy

So, they haven't gotten terribly expensive. An EXL AWD with Navigation stickers for $39,405. I think ours had an MSRP of around $37 back in 2011. I've got the sticker at home and can look it up. Problem is that I don't think you can get Honda Sensing and NAV in an EXL, you have to step up to the Touring. The Touring has an MSRP of $43,620 which includes Nav, Sensing, & Rear Entertaiment as well as the 9 Speed AT. I don't trust a 9AT to own long term and the inventory of 2017 EXL with Sensing seems to be dwindling.

I do like The Pilot's size. Its got a lot more interior space than some of the major competitors (Like the Highlander which most SUVs benchmark). Specifically the space in between the 2nd and 3rd row.

tjc78

Don't even try and lease a Pilot, you'd be better stepping up to an MDX

nyccarguy

tjc78 said:

Don't even try and lease a Pilot, you'd be better stepping up to an MDX

id lik that, but i think tne mdx is smaller

tjc78

It may be a touch, you can't get middle row captain's chairs unless you step up to an Advance Model. Captain's chairs are a must for us until the kids are out of car seats.

nyccarguy

tjc78 said:

It may be a touch, you can't get middle row captain's chairs unless you step up to an Advance Model. Captain's chairs are a must for us until the kids are out of car seats.

We like the bench in the 2nd row.  There are times we have to strap em in 3 across.

Mr_Shiftright

Q --what might a man pay for a 2008 Nissan 350Z, Grand Touring (top o' the line), fully loaded, blue over tan, 28,000 original miles, pristine top to bottom, even smells new. I hate these outliers--you can never figure out what these ridiculous levels of low miles and spotlessness are actually worth. Originally the GTs ran about $10K higher MSRP than the base model. Oh, car is not modified in any way--bone stock.